Re: [CentOS] non PAE support

2011-07-28 Thread Michael Simpson
On 28 July 2011 03:09, Robert Heller hel...@deepsoft.com wrote: At Wed, 27 Jul 2011 20:39:55 -0500 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: On Jul 27, 2011, at 12:33 PM, Always Learning wrote: On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 10:15 -0700, John R Pierce wrote: you can build the kernel RPM

Re: [CentOS] non PAE support

2011-07-28 Thread Always Learning
On Thu, 2011-07-28 at 11:33 +0100, Michael Simpson wrote: ok mum, lets get you setup with centos6..oh dear.. it looks like you bought your laptop at exactly the wrong period in intel's mobile cpu history...unlucky. Ah well, lets go down to $PC_VENDOR and get you something with m$'s latest

Re: [CentOS] non PAE support

2011-07-28 Thread Keith Roberts
On Thu, 28 Jul 2011, Always Learning wrote: *snip* ... and do not forget to pay the GBP 90 (Euro 100, USD 150) compulsory Windoze tax on the new computer ! In England it is impossible, in my experience, to purchase a new computer from a major retailer without paying the Windoze tax. Yes.

Re: [CentOS] non PAE support

2011-07-27 Thread Marc Deop
On Tuesday 26 July 2011 20:55:58 John R Pierce wrote: On 07/26/11 4:27 PM, Kevin K wrote: Does anyone know what I would have to modify in 6 if I wanted to run on an older Pentium M CPU without PAE? Is it just the kernel that needs to be rebuilt (maybe while installed in a system with a

Re: [CentOS] non PAE support

2011-07-27 Thread Kevin K
On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:55 PM, John R Pierce wrote: On 07/26/11 4:27 PM, Kevin K wrote: Does anyone know what I would have to modify in 6 if I wanted to run on an older Pentium M CPU without PAE? Is it just the kernel that needs to be rebuilt (maybe while installed in a system with a

Re: [CentOS] non PAE support

2011-07-27 Thread Kevin K
On Jul 27, 2011, at 4:53 AM, Marc Deop wrote: On Tuesday 26 July 2011 20:55:58 John R Pierce wrote: On 07/26/11 4:27 PM, Kevin K wrote: Does anyone know what I would have to modify in 6 if I wanted to run on an older Pentium M CPU without PAE? Is it just the kernel that needs to be

Re: [CentOS] non PAE support

2011-07-27 Thread Marc Deop
Unfortunately I do not have such system available :( The pentium M I'm using is PATA based an my other systems are SATA. I might be able to get an external hard drive or something like that... I'll look into it, thanks for the info anyway :) Regards Marc Deop On Wednesday 27 July 2011

Re: [CentOS] non PAE support

2011-07-27 Thread Robert Heller
At Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:53:49 +0200 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: On Tuesday 26 July 2011 20:55:58 John R Pierce wrote: On 07/26/11 4:27 PM, Kevin K wrote: Does anyone know what I would have to modify in 6 if I wanted to run on an older Pentium M CPU without PAE? Is it

Re: [CentOS] non PAE support

2011-07-27 Thread John R Pierce
On 07/27/11 4:55 AM, Marc Deop wrote: Unfortunately I do not have such system available :( The pentium M I'm using is PATA based an my other systems are SATA. I might be able to get an external hard drive or something like that... you can build the kernel RPM on any other similar

Re: [CentOS] non PAE support

2011-07-27 Thread Marc Deop
On Wednesday 27 July 2011 10:15:25 John R Pierce wrote: WHY ARE YOU/WE WASTING Y/OUR TIME ON A 6 YR OLD LAPTOP??? Dude, take it easy. Calm down. I did not spend more than one 1minute on it. I downloaded the Red Hat Beta 6 and tried to install it on the laptop. At the moment I saw there was

Re: [CentOS] non PAE support

2011-07-27 Thread Always Learning
On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 10:15 -0700, John R Pierce wrote: you can build the kernel RPM on any other similar environment, and WHY ARE YOU/WE WASTING Y/OUR TIME ON A 6 YR OLD LAPTOP??? Get over it. Either run what works on it, or get suitable hardware to run what you need. Merely

Re: [CentOS] non PAE support

2011-07-27 Thread Les Mikesell
On 7/27/2011 12:23 PM, Marc Deop wrote: On Wednesday 27 July 2011 10:15:25 John R Pierce wrote: WHY ARE YOU/WE WASTING Y/OUR TIME ON A 6 YR OLD LAPTOP??? Dude, take it easy. Calm down. I did not spend more than one 1minute on it. I downloaded the Red Hat Beta 6 and tried to install it on

Re: [CentOS] non PAE support

2011-07-27 Thread John R Pierce
On 07/27/11 10:33 AM, Always Learning wrote: The 26 66cm television is my bedroom is 14 years old. and probably draws triple the power and heat as a modern LCD screen, as well as taking 2 feet or more of depth. re; the 6 yr old laptop... I in fact have a old pentium-M PATA laptop myself. I

Re: [CentOS] non PAE support

2011-07-27 Thread Scot P. Floess
Hey, I have 2 PIII 550 / 650 Mhz laptops I use running CentOS 5.6 (FVWM for example) - they work just fine (OK maybe firefox can be punchy) - but for Xterms or even as VNC clients - they rock. CentOS 5.6 runs just fine on them too... On Wed, 27 Jul 2011, John R Pierce wrote: On 07/27/11

Re: [CentOS] non PAE support

2011-07-27 Thread Drew
I wonder then what people would think about my running SL6 (centos 6 wasn't out yet) on an old P3-866 Toughbook w/ 768MB RAM? :) Only machine in my inventory that I can drag *everywhere* and still doesn't complain. -- Drew ___ CentOS mailing list

Re: [CentOS] non PAE support

2011-07-27 Thread m . roth
John R Pierce wrote: On 07/27/11 10:33 AM, Always Learning wrote: The 26 66cm television is my bedroom is 14 years old. and probably draws triple the power and heat as a modern LCD screen, as well as taking 2 feet or more of depth. And less than a plasma screen, with the addition that if

Re: [CentOS] non PAE support

2011-07-27 Thread John R Pierce
On 07/27/11 11:29 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: And less than a plasma screen, with the addition that if you turn it off, it does*not* draw power. Many CRT's made in the last 20 years kept the filaments preheated so they could fire up faster. and of course, anything with a remote control that

Re: [CentOS] non PAE support

2011-07-27 Thread Keith Roberts
On Wed, 27 Jul 2011, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: *snip* Yeah, this is *linux*: it runs on anything Of course. The smallest usable Linux distros I know of is: http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/ # Run light enough to power a 486DX with 16MB of Ram # Run fully in RAM with as little as 128MB (you

Re: [CentOS] non PAE support

2011-07-27 Thread m . roth
John R Pierce wrote: On 07/27/11 11:29 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: And less than a plasma screen, with the addition that if you turn it off, it does*not* draw power. Many CRT's made in the last 20 years kept the filaments preheated so they could fire up faster. and of course, anything

Re: [CentOS] non PAE support

2011-07-27 Thread Lamar Owen
On Wednesday, July 27, 2011 02:50:31 PM Keith Roberts wrote: DSL was originally developed as an experiment to see how many usable desktop applications can fit inside a 50MB live CD. Somewhat off-topic for the CentOS list however, another good one is TinyCore (and without the possibly

Re: [CentOS] non PAE support

2011-07-27 Thread m . roth
Keith Roberts wrote: On Wed, 27 Jul 2011, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: *snip* Yeah, this is *linux*: it runs on anything Of course. The smallest usable Linux distros I know of is: http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/ # Run light enough to power a 486DX with 16MB of Ram # Run fully in RAM with

Re: [CentOS] non PAE support

2011-07-27 Thread Ron Blizzard
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:15 PM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: you can build the kernel RPM on any other similar environment, and WHY ARE YOU/WE WASTING Y/OUR TIME ON A 6  YR OLD LAPTOP???   Get over it.  Either run what works on it, or get suitable hardware to run what you

Re: [CentOS] non PAE support

2011-07-27 Thread Scot P. Floess
Oh wow 768 MB - nice. My laptops have 256 MB and 384 MB - how's that for old :) On Wed, 27 Jul 2011, Drew wrote: I wonder then what people would think about my running SL6 (centos 6 wasn't out yet) on an old P3-866 Toughbook w/ 768MB RAM? :) Only machine in my inventory that I can drag

Re: [CentOS] non PAE support

2011-07-27 Thread Ron Blizzard
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 4:53 AM, Marc Deop damnsh...@gmail.com wrote: And how exactly would you do that if the installation just can't proceed if it detects you do not have a PAE processor? Here's a work-around method posted at Scientific Linux to install version 6 on a non-PAE computer. I'm

Re: [CentOS] non PAE support

2011-07-27 Thread Drew
I was pleased as most of that era toughbook had 256 or 512 if you were lucky. I upgraded the drive to 80GB and I dual-boot XP for a couple apps. Fun machine. My first linux box, a Redhat 4 machine, ran on a Pentium-133 and had 32megs when I got it. RH6 wouldn't install and I had to custom compile

Re: [CentOS] non PAE support

2011-07-27 Thread Kevin K
On Jul 27, 2011, at 12:33 PM, Always Learning wrote: On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 10:15 -0700, John R Pierce wrote: you can build the kernel RPM on any other similar environment, and WHY ARE YOU/WE WASTING Y/OUR TIME ON A 6 YR OLD LAPTOP??? Get over it. Either run what works on it,

Re: [CentOS] non PAE support

2011-07-27 Thread Robert Heller
At Wed, 27 Jul 2011 20:39:55 -0500 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: On Jul 27, 2011, at 12:33 PM, Always Learning wrote: On Wed, 2011-07-27 at 10:15 -0700, John R Pierce wrote: you can build the kernel RPM on any other similar environment, and WHY ARE YOU/WE

[CentOS] non PAE support

2011-07-26 Thread Kevin K
Does anyone know what I would have to modify in 6 if I wanted to run on an older Pentium M CPU without PAE? Is it just the kernel that needs to be rebuilt (maybe while installed in a system with a supported CPU)? Or are there other components that would cause problems and need to be rebuilt

Re: [CentOS] non PAE support

2011-07-26 Thread John R Pierce
On 07/26/11 4:27 PM, Kevin K wrote: Does anyone know what I would have to modify in 6 if I wanted to run on an older Pentium M CPU without PAE? Is it just the kernel that needs to be rebuilt (maybe while installed in a system with a supported CPU)? Or are there other components that would