Re: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-04 Thread Romeo Ninov
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote / napísal(a): Spiro Harvey, Knossos Networks Ltd scribbled on Wednesday, September 03, 2008 11:13 PM: 2) Why can you possibly help if you yourself are a newbie? It's just the blind leading the blind. I've noticed that sometimes only a not-so-new-newbie can

Re: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-04 Thread Niki Kovacs
Romeo Ninov a écrit : Absolute true, but very often newbie ever if find/detect the problem give stupid/dangerous/senseless solution/idea. Reminds me of what happens in Ubuntu forums and the likes on a daily basis. User A: Help! 3D acceleration doesn't work! Compiz no works! User B: Try to

RE: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Romeo Ninov scribbled on Thursday, September 04, 2008 10:36 AM: 2) Why can you possibly help if you yourself are a newbie? It's just the blind leading the blind. I've noticed that sometimes only a not-so-new-newbie can help another newbie. A pro can sometimes not see the problem from

Re: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-04 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 04 September 2008 10:03:50 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Romeo Ninov scribbled on Thursday, September 04, 2008 10:36 AM: 2) Why can you possibly help if you yourself are a newbie? It's just the blind leading the blind. I've noticed that sometimes only a not-so-new-newbie can help

Re: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-04 Thread Romeo Ninov
Anne Wilson wrote / napísal(a): On Thursday 04 September 2008 10:03:50 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Romeo Ninov scribbled on Thursday, September 04, 2008 10:36 AM: 2) Why can you possibly help if you yourself are a newbie? It's just the blind leading the blind. I've noticed

Re: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-04 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 04 September 2008 10:30:41 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, so this list should be kept a bit more professional than the others. I might be touching the zealot/religious angle here. 8-) My opinion is that Ubuntu is to linux what etch-a-sketch is to personal computers. Sort of. ;-)

Re: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-04 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 04 September 2008 10:22:11 Romeo Ninov wrote: It's good that a newbie wants to help other newbies.  As for the quality of information, I've seen people who have several years of experience give advice that was true years ago but completely wrong now.  A newbie basing his

RE: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anne Wilson scribbled on Thursday, September 04, 2008 11:39 AM: On Thursday 04 September 2008 10:30:41 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, so this list should be kept a bit more professional than the others. I might be touching the zealot/religious angle here. 8-) My opinion is that Ubuntu is to

RE: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anne Wilson scribbled on Thursday, September 04, 2008 11:44 AM: Meanwhile, hostile reception of well-meaning efforts does put off a great many newbies, which is a real shame. Well said! (That's what I was trying to say initially but didn't quite succeed.) smime.p7s Description: S/MIME

Re: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-04 Thread Niki Kovacs
Anne Wilson a écrit : Meanwhile, hostile reception of well-meaning efforts does put off a great many newbies, which is a real shame. I wouldn't call it hostility. More in the sense of a polite - and sane - scepticism. There's a French saying which may illustrate this: Hell is paved with

RE: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Niki Kovacs scribbled on Thursday, September 04, 2008 12:16 PM: So, to answer the question above: IMNSHO, the best advice comes from an expert who *can* think like a newbie. (At work, I usually deal with the opposite paradigm :oD) There is no more dangerous user than a user that knows *a

Re: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-04 Thread Jim Perrin
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 5:59 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anne Wilson scribbled on Thursday, September 04, 2008 11:44 AM: Meanwhile, hostile reception of well-meaning efforts does put off a great many newbies, which is a real shame. Well said! (That's what I was trying to

Re: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-04 Thread MHR
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 4:08 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Niki Kovacs scribbled on Thursday, September 04, 2008 12:16 PM: So, to answer the question above: IMNSHO, the best advice comes from an expert who *can* think like a newbie. (At work, I usually deal with the opposite

RE: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-04 Thread Ross S. W. Walker
MHR wrote: IMVMHO, having been brand new to CentOS but a long time Linux user and sometimes administrator, delving into the depths of the kernel, returning to the Linux email list world (as an idiot AND a newbie) and now charged in part with porting a major real-life real-time app from FC1

Re: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-04 Thread Ric Moore
On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 12:15 +0200, Niki Kovacs wrote: So, to answer the question above: IMNSHO, the best advice comes from an expert who *can* think like a newbie. (At work, I usually deal with the opposite paradigm :oD) That is the Super User. Someone much more advanced than your usual

Re: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-04 Thread Mike McCarty
Ross S. W. Walker wrote: [snip good advice] Oh and don't forget virtualization is your friend in learning! VMware workstation, Parallels, Virtual Box, Xen, Hyper-V, they're all good for learning! Create a VM per-distro, see how each distro installs, see how each is managed. Take snapshots

RE: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-04 Thread Ross S. W. Walker
Mike McCarty wrote: Ross S. W. Walker wrote: [snip good advice] Oh and don't forget virtualization is your friend in learning! VMware workstation, Parallels, Virtual Box, Xen, Hyper-V, they're all good for learning! Create a VM per-distro, see how each distro installs, see how

Re: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-04 Thread josh donovan
--- On Wed, 3/9/08, Sadaruwan Samaraweera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sadaruwan Samaraweera [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Date: Wednesday, 3 September, 2008, 9:08 AM Hi Good People, I've

RE: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-04 Thread William L. Maltby
On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 15:34 -0400, Ross S. W. Walker wrote: Mike McCarty wrote: snip May I suggest that, if you really want to learn how a Linux system gets put together, and works, then get a copy of Linux from Scratch and build your own? http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ Well

Re: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-03 Thread Romeo Ninov
Sadaruwan Samaraweera wrote / napísal(a): Hi Good People, I've created a blog to help newbies in the world of Linux. Can you people see it and tell what departments that I've to improve more to help the grate community of Linux. Please click this link to go to my blog

Re: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-03 Thread Sadaruwan Samaraweera
On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Romeo Ninov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sadaruwan Samaraweera wrote / napísal(a): Hi Good People, I've created a blog to help newbies in the world of Linux. Can you people see it and tell what departments that I've to improve more to help the grate

Re: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-03 Thread Tru Huynh
On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 03:01:29PM +0530, Sadaruwan Samaraweera wrote: ... Thx, I need more feed back like this so I can add more value to the blog. Sadaruwan, please TRIM your replies! -- Tru Huynh (mirrors, CentOS-3 i386/x86_64 Package Maintenance)

Re: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-03 Thread William L. Maltby
On Wed, 2008-09-03 at 12:54 +0200, Tru Huynh wrote: On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 03:01:29PM +0530, Sadaruwan Samaraweera wrote: ... Thx, I need more feed back like this so I can add more value to the blog. Sadaruwan, please TRIM your replies! In fact, the first thing in your blog might be a

Re: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-03 Thread Niki Kovacs
Sadaruwan Samaraweera a écrit : Hi Good People, I've created a blog to help newbies in the world of Linux. Can you people see it and tell what departments that I've to improve Switch your mail client from HTML to plain text? ___ CentOS

Re: [CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-03 Thread Spiro Harvey, Knossos Networks Ltd
I've created a blog to help newbies in the world of Linux. Can you people see it and tell what departments that I've to improve more to help the grate community of Linux. 1) The world has plenty of sites already catering to linux newbies. I just googled linux for newbies and got