Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim

2014-09-29 Thread Always Learning
On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 17:04 +1300, Cliff Pratt wrote: sendmail is a link to exim on most exim systems (like mine, though mine is Ubuntu). cliffp@ubuntu:~$ which sendmail /usr/sbin/sendmail cliffp@ubuntu:~$ file `which sendmail` /usr/sbin/sendmail: symbolic link to `exim4' C 5.10 C 6.5

Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim

2014-09-29 Thread Les Mikesell
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: sendmail is a link to exim on most exim systems (like mine, though mine is Ubuntu). cliffp@ubuntu:~$ which sendmail /usr/sbin/sendmail cliffp@ubuntu:~$ file `which sendmail` /usr/sbin/sendmail: symbolic link to

Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim

2014-09-29 Thread Always Learning
On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 10:49 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: sendmail is a link to exim on most exim systems (like mine, though mine is Ubuntu). cliffp@ubuntu:~$ which sendmail /usr/sbin/sendmail

Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim

2014-09-29 Thread m . roth
Always Learning wrote: On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 10:49 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: snip Thanks. I learned something new today. Not exactly... Applications that pipe to the sendmail command line program to send messages

Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim

2014-09-29 Thread Les Mikesell
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: Thanks. I learned something new today. Not exactly... Applications that pipe to the sendmail command line program to send messages go back to the dawn of email. MTAs that replace the 'real' sendmail pretty much

Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim

2014-09-29 Thread Don O'Hara
On Sep 29, 2014, at 14:44, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Always Learning wrote: On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 10:49 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: snip Thanks. I learned something new today. Not exactly... Applications that pipe

Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim

2014-09-29 Thread Always Learning
On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 14:44 -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Always Learning wrote: On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 10:49 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: snip Thanks. I learned something new today. Not exactly...

Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim

2014-09-29 Thread Les Mikesell
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Don O'Hara don.oh...@gmail.com wrote: I second and third that recommendation. A great exercise is to use that book as a foundation, and to realize that the “what to do” has not changed that much, but the “how to do it” changes hourly. Sigh... I'm rarely

Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim

2014-09-29 Thread Always Learning
On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 14:03 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 1:41 PM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: Thanks. I learned something new today. Not exactly... Applications that pipe to the sendmail command line program to send messages go back to the dawn

Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim

2014-09-29 Thread m . roth
Always Learning wrote: On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 14:44 -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Always Learning wrote: On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 10:49 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: snip Thanks. I learned something new today.

Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim

2014-09-29 Thread Les Mikesell
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: If you really want to appreciate the concepts, you should find a unix manual from the days before X was included. Back then there were 5 sections where 1 covered the command line programs, 2 covered system calls, 3

Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim

2014-09-29 Thread Always Learning
On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 15:27 -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: *Make* the time. It'll save your bacon. I will look for the book. An egg and crispy bacon sandwich would be nice. Regards, Paul. England, EU. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim

2014-09-29 Thread m . roth
Always Learning wrote: On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 15:27 -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: *Make* the time. It'll save your bacon. I will look for the book. An egg and crispy bacon sandwich would be nice. Yup - British bacon may well be better than American (even when you can get American bacon

Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim

2014-09-28 Thread Александр Кириллов
I was remotely testing a web page. A web page error condition invoked the embedded PHP mail() command. To my astonishment something in Centos woke-up Exim. Exim sent the email and then became inactive again. The Exim logs does not show any start-up lines, just 1. input from Apache. 2. output

Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim

2014-09-28 Thread Cliff Pratt
The daemon only handles incoming mail, or in other words waits for incoming connections from other mail servers. Outgoing mail is sent on demand, or in other words a connection is made to a mail server or relay as and when required. Cheers, Cliff On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Always Learning

Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim

2014-09-28 Thread Les Mikesell
On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: Had a surprising event on C 6.5. Exim was the only MTA installed. It was partially configured (with ACL, Router, Transport) and definitely not running. I was remotely testing a web page. A web page error condition

Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim

2014-09-28 Thread Always Learning
On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 00:03 +0400, Александр Кириллов wrote: You don't really need an active smtp daemon to send email or deliver it locally. $ cat /etc/php.ini | grep sendmail Package(s) sendmail available, but not installed. It was Exim because the email headers said very clearly it was

Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim

2014-09-28 Thread Always Learning
On Sun, 2014-09-28 at 19:27 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: Applications often send mail by piping to the command 'sendmail' which is enough of a standard that other MTAs normally offer a compatible command. With 'real' sendmail you can configure it to either deliver in the current process or to

Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim

2014-09-28 Thread John R. Dennison
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 02:52:45AM +0100, Always Learning wrote: Sendmail is not present on the server. Exim is the only MTA. Exim awoke, forwarded the email then became inactive (not running) again. He didn't say sendmail the package was present; he said sendmail the command. rpm -qvl exim

Re: [CentOS] Apache wakes-up inactive Exim

2014-09-28 Thread Cliff Pratt
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: On Mon, 2014-09-29 at 00:03 +0400, Александр Кириллов wrote: You don't really need an active smtp daemon to send email or deliver it locally. $ cat /etc/php.ini | grep sendmail Package(s) sendmail available, but