Re: [CentOS] DNF update

2016-09-10 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Sep 9, 2016, at 10:42 PM, Jon LaBadie wrote: > On CentOS 7.2 > $ yum list dnf* > dnf.noarch0.6.4-2.el7 epel > dnf-conf.noarch 0.6.4-2.el7 epel > dnf-langpacks.noarch 0.15.1-1.el7

Re: [CentOS] DNF update

2016-09-09 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Fri, Sep 09, 2016 at 09:28:09AM +0100, John Hodrien wrote: > On Fri, 9 Sep 2016, Always Learning wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 2016-09-08 at 23:22 +0100, J Martin Rushton wrote: > > > > > Under Fedora23 issuing a yum command gets you a warning, then it > > > automatically runs the appropriate dnf

Re: [CentOS] DNF update

2016-09-09 Thread John Hodrien
On Fri, 9 Sep 2016, Always Learning wrote: On Thu, 2016-09-08 at 23:22 +0100, J Martin Rushton wrote: Under Fedora23 issuing a yum command gets you a warning, then it automatically runs the appropriate dnf command. Can you tell us the DNF for:- yum update yum groupinstall

Re: [CentOS] DNF update

2016-09-08 Thread Jonathan Billings
> On Sep 8, 2016, at 10:01 PM, Always Learning wrote: > > Can you tell us the DNF for:- Get ready to take notes, because this gets complex: > yum update dnf update > yum groupinstall dnf groupinstall > yum reinstall dnf reinstall > yum erase

Re: [CentOS] DNF update

2016-09-08 Thread Always Learning
On Thu, 2016-09-08 at 23:22 +0100, J Martin Rushton wrote: > Under Fedora23 issuing a yum command gets you a warning, then it > automatically runs the appropriate dnf command. Can you tell us the DNF for:- yum update yum groupinstall yum reinstall yum erase ?

Re: [CentOS] DNF update

2016-09-08 Thread Always Learning
On Thu, 2016-09-08 at 14:12 -0700, Keith Keller wrote: > On 2016-09-08, John R Pierce wrote: > > On 9/7/2016 7:02 PM, Keith Keller wrote: > >>> Staying with excellent C6 until the end. > >> CentOS 7 is yum based, not dnf. > > > > "Always Learning" seems to have a distaste

Re: [CentOS] DNF update

2016-09-08 Thread J Martin Rushton
On 08/09/16 03:02, Keith Keller wrote: > On 2016-09-08, Always Learning wrote: >> >> In any single version of Centos there is only one YUM. Having multiple >> and incompatible versions of Yum in the same software release is >> bonkers. > > Fedora is the place to try out

Re: [CentOS] DNF update

2016-09-08 Thread Keith Keller
On 2016-09-08, John R Pierce wrote: > On 9/7/2016 7:02 PM, Keith Keller wrote: >>> Staying with excellent C6 until the end. >> CentOS 7 is yum based, not dnf. > > "Always Learning" seems to have a distaste for anything new or different > than what he already knows. Don't we

Re: [CentOS] DNF update

2016-09-08 Thread William A. Mahaffey III
On 09/08/16 09:51, Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Wed, September 7, 2016 9:59 pm, John R Pierce wrote: On 9/7/2016 7:02 PM, Keith Keller wrote: Staying with excellent C6 until the end. CentOS 7 is yum based, not dnf. "Always Learning" seems to have a distaste for anything new or different than

Re: [CentOS] DNF update

2016-09-08 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Wed, September 7, 2016 9:59 pm, John R Pierce wrote: > On 9/7/2016 7:02 PM, Keith Keller wrote: >>> Staying with excellent C6 until the end. >> CentOS 7 is yum based, not dnf. > > "Always Learning" seems to have a distaste for anything new or different > than what he already knows. > Your,

Re: [CentOS] DNF update

2016-09-08 Thread Always Learning
On Wed, 2016-09-07 at 19:59 -0700, John R Pierce wrote: > >> Staying with excellent C6 until the end. > "Always Learning" seems to have a distaste for anything new or different > than what he already knows. My mind is never ever automatically closed to new 'things'. I continually embrace

Re: [CentOS] DNF update

2016-09-07 Thread John R Pierce
On 9/7/2016 7:02 PM, Keith Keller wrote: Staying with excellent C6 until the end. CentOS 7 is yum based, not dnf. "Always Learning" seems to have a distaste for anything new or different than what he already knows. -- john r pierce, recycling bits in santa cruz

Re: [CentOS] DNF update

2016-09-07 Thread Keith Keller
On 2016-09-08, Always Learning wrote: > > In any single version of Centos there is only one YUM. Having multiple > and incompatible versions of Yum in the same software release is > bonkers. Fedora is the place to try out bonkers stuff. If RedHat is satisfied with dnf then

Re: [CentOS] DNF update

2016-09-07 Thread Always Learning
On Wed, 2016-09-07 at 16:43 -0700, John R Pierce wrote: > DNF is a fork of yum that involves a nearly total rewrite. yum > development continues. Wonderful news from Santa Cruz, USA :-) -- Regards, Paul. England, EU. England's place is in the European Union.

Re: [CentOS] DNF update

2016-09-07 Thread Always Learning
On Wed, 2016-09-07 at 23:40 +, Joseph L. Casale wrote: > > I think it should be called YUM. > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DNF#Naming > DNF stands for Dandified yum. Since DNF is a tech preview > in Fedora 18 the Python module names can not be 'yum.*' as > that would clash with

Re: [CentOS] DNF update

2016-09-07 Thread John R Pierce
On 9/7/2016 4:33 PM, Always Learning wrote: On Tue, 2016-09-06 at 18:03 -0700, John R Pierce wrote: >DNF is a replacement for Yum that will probably be in a future RHEL >release, but is not used by any RHEL/CentOS yet. I think it should be called YUM. Nothing wrong with having a new version

Re: [CentOS] DNF update

2016-09-07 Thread Joseph L. Casale
> I think it should be called YUM. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DNF#Naming ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] DNF update

2016-09-07 Thread Always Learning
On Tue, 2016-09-06 at 18:03 -0700, John R Pierce wrote: > DNF is a replacement for Yum that will probably be in a future RHEL > release, but is not used by any RHEL/CentOS yet. I think it should be called YUM. Nothing wrong with having a new version of Yum, especially when we have a new

Re: [CentOS] DNF update

2016-09-07 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2016-09-07, Lamar Owen wrote: [...] > And if anyone were to think that the Debian-style 'apt-get dist-upgrade' > is the cure-all, there is a thread in the owncloud user mailing list > that you may want to read, about an admin who locked up (and ended up > losing) his

Re: [CentOS] DNF update

2016-09-07 Thread Lamar Owen
On 09/06/2016 08:57 PM, Jerry Geis wrote: I was searching tonight how to update OLD systems. I have C5 and C6 systems that need updating and they are remote systems. ... Is this a valid option for updating C5 and C6 to take them to C7? First, a bit of nomeclature clarification is in order. To

Re: [CentOS] DNF update

2016-09-06 Thread Jonathan Billings
> On Sep 6, 2016, at 9:03 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > > DNF is a replacement for Yum that will probably be in a future RHEL release, > but is not used by any RHEL/CentOS yet. And while dnf has a system-upgrade feature in Fedora, I don’t know how well it’d work in the RHEL

Re: [CentOS] DNF update

2016-09-06 Thread John R Pierce
On 9/6/2016 5:57 PM, Jerry Geis wrote: I was searching tonight how to update OLD systems. I have C5 and C6 systems that need updating and they are remote systems. I followed the paths and ended up at DNF. Is this a valid option for updating C5 and C6 to take them to C7? DNF is a replacement