Re: [CentOS] ganglia failing dependency

2011-10-08 Thread John R Pierce
On 10/08/11 5:47 PM, Tim Dunphy wrote: [root@VIRTCENT11:/usr/local/src/ganglia-3.2.0] #locate librrd.so.2 /usr/lib/librrd.so.2 /usr/lib/librrd.so.2.0.13 Does anyone have any ideas on how to get past this point? it appears there are rrdtool's in both rpmforge and epel. odds are, these

Re: [CentOS] ganglia failing dependency

2011-10-08 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Vreme: 10/09/2011 02:56 AM, John R Pierce piše: On 10/08/11 5:47 PM, Tim Dunphy wrote: [root@VIRTCENT11:/usr/local/src/ganglia-3.2.0] #locate librrd.so.2 /usr/lib/librrd.so.2 /usr/lib/librrd.so.2.0.13 Does anyone have any ideas on how to get past this point? it appears there are rrdtool's

Re: [CentOS] Ganglia

2010-06-18 Thread John Doe
From: John R. Dennison j...@gerdesas.com On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 08:09:11PM -0400, Whit Blauvelt wrote: I should care what you believe? Is this vitriol really necessary? I think it is just a reaction to the I don't believe you at all, which some people would take as you are a liar... That's

Re: [CentOS] Ganglia

2010-06-18 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 08:22:35PM -0500, John R. Dennison wrote: Is this vitriol really necessary? I installed ganglia; not a single conflict. Why yes, John, it is. The fine man said outright he didn't believe my honest account, accusing me of making something up when I was only

Re: [CentOS] Ganglia

2010-06-18 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 08:10:29PM -0500, John R. Dennison wrote: On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 08:01:02PM -0400, Joshua Baker-LePain wrote: That being said, it's trivial to recompile the F13 RPM for 3.1.2 for centos-5. And that would be the proper route to go instead of building

Re: [CentOS] Ganglia

2010-06-18 Thread Nicolas Thierry-Mieg
Whit Blauvelt wrote: On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 08:22:35PM -0500, John R. Dennison wrote: snip If you want shiny and new, why not do it properly and build rpms? long snip On the whole, this list is professional. I like that. But look, ./configure, make, make install is _always_ a

Re: [CentOS] Ganglia

2010-06-18 Thread Les Mikesell
Whit Blauvelt wrote: You installed without a conflict, good. Perhaps you were installing on a 32-bit system rather than a 64-bit? Perhaps your system didn't have some of the packages already installed for other functionality that mine did? All I can say is that, for my system, yum saw version

Re: [CentOS] Ganglia

2010-06-18 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 08:19:46PM -0500, John R. Dennison wrote: I just tried a ganglia install from EPEL; absolutely no issues at all. Perhaps if you'd bother to actually document these conflicts one of us might be able to help. That is if we're still willing. Now

Re: [CentOS] Ganglia

2010-06-18 Thread Les Mikesell
Whit Blauvelt wrote: On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 08:10:29PM -0500, John R. Dennison wrote: On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 08:01:02PM -0400, Joshua Baker-LePain wrote: That being said, it's trivial to recompile the F13 RPM for 3.1.2 for centos-5. And that would be the proper route to go instead of

Re: [CentOS] Ganglia

2010-06-18 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 08:14:02AM -0400, Whit Blauvelt wrote: On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 08:22:35PM -0500, John R. Dennison wrote: Is this vitriol really necessary? I installed ganglia; not a single conflict. Why yes, John, it is. The fine man said outright he didn't believe my

Re: [CentOS] Ganglia

2010-06-18 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 08:19:46PM -0500, John R. Dennison wrote: If there were a good CentOS build of 3.1.7 I'd happily use it. But getting stuff from EPEL, which is essentially Redhat testing, is as silly as mixing Uh, you've confused EPEL and Fedora apparently. Hey John,

Re: [CentOS] Ganglia

2010-06-18 Thread Les Mikesell
On 6/18/2010 9:01 AM, Whit Blauvelt wrote: If there were a good CentOS build of 3.1.7 I'd happily use it. But getting stuff from EPEL, which is essentially Redhat testing, is as silly as mixing Uh, you've confused EPEL and Fedora apparently. Hey John,

Re: [CentOS] Ganglia

2010-06-18 Thread Les Mikesell
On 6/18/2010 8:20 AM, Jerry McAllister wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 08:14:02AM -0400, Whit Blauvelt wrote: On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 08:22:35PM -0500, John R. Dennison wrote: Is this vitriol really necessary? I installed ganglia; not a single conflict. Why yes, John, it is. The

Re: [CentOS] Ganglia

2010-06-18 Thread John R. Dennison
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 08:14:02AM -0400, Whit Blauvelt wrote: Why yes, John, it is. The fine man said outright he didn't believe my honest account, accusing me of making something up when I was only giving the facts. He was calling me a liar. He preferred to see my account as a lie so as

Re: [CentOS] Ganglia

2010-06-18 Thread John R. Dennison
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 08:25:56AM -0400, Whit Blauvelt wrote: To get 3.1.7? Disregarding that, I should jump through the hoops of recompiling a F13 RPM rather than just compile from the tar? Why? Every extra stage like that introduces the chance of incidental errors, of stuff that doesn't

Re: [CentOS] Ganglia

2010-06-18 Thread John R. Dennison
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 08:41:26AM -0400, Whit Blauvelt wrote: Now you're threatening to expel me from the community? For posting notes on workarounds to get a useful package to work? What's this about? Ganglia's working fine for me. I'm honored that you think I have that much sway

Re: [CentOS] Ganglia

2010-06-18 Thread John R Pierce
John R. Dennison wrote: On the whole, this list is professional. I like that. But look, ./configure, make, make install is _always_ a proper option. Any serious No, it's not. indeed, doing exactly this could very well lead to the conflicts he reported when he tried to

Re: [CentOS] Ganglia

2010-06-18 Thread John R. Dennison
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 10:01:38AM -0400, Whit Blauvelt wrote: Extra Packages for Enterprise Linux (EPEL) is a volunteer-based community effort from the Fedora project to create a repository of high-quality add-on ... Enough said. Apparently not as that bears no indication of it

Re: [CentOS] Ganglia

2010-06-18 Thread m . roth
John R. Dennison wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 08:41:26AM -0400, Whit Blauvelt wrote: snip My issues were your building from native source doing the standard three-step; it's wrong to do so in an rpm-managed distro. Up until now, I had to build the gspca driver separately,

Re: [CentOS] Ganglia

2010-06-18 Thread John R. Dennison
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 03:15:41PM -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Up until now, I had to build the gspca driver separately, every time I upgraded those servers with the cameras attached. I also *always* have to do something - mostly reinstall - when I upgrade the boxes, mostly older, with

Re: [CentOS] Ganglia

2010-06-18 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 19/06/2010 02:02, Karanbir Singh wrote: ganglia - I still think you don't think you what you are talking about. s/.*/ganglia - I still think you are confused about the issue./ I blame too much mongodb in one day for crazy language skilz :! ( or in my case, lack of ) - KB

Re: [CentOS] Ganglia

2010-06-17 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 17/06/2010 23:20, Whit Blauvelt wrote: - best complied from source, there are big dependency problems with the available rpms I find that very hard to believe - to the extent that I don't believe you at all. Or did you mean to say that its not easy to locate a well done rpm set for

Re: [CentOS] Ganglia

2010-06-17 Thread John R. Dennison
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 06:20:03PM -0400, Whit Blauvelt wrote: - best complied from source, there are big dependency problems with the available rpms Very few packages are ever best compiled from source on an enterprise distro. What, specifically, is wrong with the

Re: [CentOS] Ganglia

2010-06-17 Thread Joshua Baker-LePain
On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 at 6:51pm, John R. Dennison wrote On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 06:20:03PM -0400, Whit Blauvelt wrote: - best complied from source, there are big dependency problems with the available rpms Very few packages are ever best compiled from source on an enterprise

Re: [CentOS] Ganglia

2010-06-17 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 12:37:11AM +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote: On 17/06/2010 23:20, Whit Blauvelt wrote: - best complied from source, there are big dependency problems with the available rpms I find that very hard to believe - to the extent that I don't believe you at all. Or did you

Re: [CentOS] Ganglia

2010-06-17 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 06:51:52PM -0500, John R. Dennison wrote: Very few packages are ever best compiled from source on an enterprise distro. What, specifically, is wrong with the 3.0.7 in EPEL? Um, that yum install ganglia produces a long list of package conflicts on a

Re: [CentOS] Ganglia

2010-06-17 Thread John R. Dennison
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 08:01:02PM -0400, Joshua Baker-LePain wrote: That being said, it's trivial to recompile the F13 RPM for 3.1.2 for centos-5. And that would be the proper route to go instead of building from native source :)

Re: [CentOS] Ganglia

2010-06-17 Thread John R. Dennison
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 08:21:00PM -0400, Whit Blauvelt wrote: Um, that yum install ganglia produces a long list of package conflicts on a current CentOS system? Or that only 3.1.7 has a fully working multicpu module, plus a number of significant bug fixes? I just tried a ganglia

Re: [CentOS] Ganglia

2010-06-17 Thread John R. Dennison
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 08:09:11PM -0400, Whit Blauvelt wrote: I should care what you believe? Stay ignorant, if you like. If not, take a CentOS system, add the EPEL repository for ganglia, try yum install ganglia, and prepare to see all sorts of package conflicts. Plus it's not the current