Re: [CentOS] Motherboards for HPC applications

2010-03-12 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 08:35:23AM +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: On Thursday, March 11, 2010 01:41 AM, Eduardo Grosclaude wrote: On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 2:05 AM, Christopher Chan christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk wrote: On the Intel side, a dual socket solution will even outperform a

Re: [CentOS] Motherboards for HPC applications

2010-03-10 Thread Eduardo Grosclaude
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 2:05 AM, Christopher Chan christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk wrote: On the Intel side, a dual socket solution will even outperform a quad socket solution so if one is looking for Intel cpu solutions, dual socket is the only sensible choice. But that Wow, that's a pretty

Re: [CentOS] Motherboards for HPC applications

2010-03-10 Thread Christopher Chan
On Thursday, March 11, 2010 01:41 AM, Eduardo Grosclaude wrote: On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 2:05 AM, Christopher Chan christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk wrote: On the Intel side, a dual socket solution will even outperform a quad socket solution so if one is looking for Intel cpu solutions, dual

Re: [CentOS] Motherboards for HPC applications

2010-03-10 Thread John R Pierce
Christopher Chan wrote: Anandtech did some testing last quarter where they compared what appears to be the best quad socket Intel solution against the best dual socket Intel solution and the dual socket solution ran circles around the quad in some tests and pretty much matches it in other

Re: [CentOS] Motherboards for HPC applications

2010-03-09 Thread Chan Chung Hang Christopher
Eduardo Grosclaude wrote: On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 12:49 AM, Christopher Chan christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk wrote: On Tuesday, March 09, 2010 12:34 AM, Eduardo Grosclaude wrote: Hello, Can somebody recommend CentOS-OK, dual socket motherboards for compute elements? A quick look up at Intel

Re: [CentOS] Motherboards for HPC applications

2010-03-09 Thread Eduardo Grosclaude
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 1:08 AM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: for a high performance compute cluster, you'll probably want to use management software like Oscar, which integrates system management with MPI based distributed computing such that you can manage a cluster of 100s of

Re: [CentOS] Motherboards for HPC applications

2010-03-09 Thread Joshua Baker-LePain
On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 at 9:49pm, Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote If cpu processing power is the sole criteria, then why limit to dual-socket boards and not go for quad-socket boards? In general, the price goes up non-linearly as you go above 2 sockets, making 2 sockets the sweet spot when it

Re: [CentOS] Motherboards for HPC applications

2010-03-09 Thread John R Pierce
Eduardo Grosclaude wrote: On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 1:08 AM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: for a high performance compute cluster, you'll probably want to use management software like Oscar, which integrates system management with MPI based distributed computing such that you can

Re: [CentOS] Motherboards for HPC applications

2010-03-09 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 08:09:57PM -0800, nate wrote: Gordon McLellan wrote: If your application can't support GPU based processing, I think Peter's suggestion is most fitting. Load up a rack of dual socket 5520 servers from Dell or HP and then save some money by building your own

Re: [CentOS] Motherboards for HPC applications

2010-03-09 Thread Christopher Chan
On Wednesday, March 10, 2010 12:35 AM, Joshua Baker-LePain wrote: On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 at 9:49pm, Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote If cpu processing power is the sole criteria, then why limit to dual-socket boards and not go for quad-socket boards? In general, the price goes up non-linearly

Re: [CentOS] Motherboards for HPC applications

2010-03-09 Thread nate
Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: Wow, pretty cool system. Can you tell about the pricing? I don't think I can, but it is competitive with Dell and HP as an example while the innovation put into the cloud rack is far beyond anything Dell or HP offer to mere mortals. Closest HP offers is the SL series of

Re: [CentOS] Motherboards for HPC applications

2010-03-09 Thread Jeff Layton
, 2010 7:37:04 PM Subject: Re: [CentOS] Motherboards for HPC applications Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: Wow, pretty cool system. Can you tell about the pricing? I don't think I can, but it is competitive with Dell and HP as an example while the innovation put into the cloud rack is far beyond anything

Re: [CentOS] Motherboards for HPC applications

2010-03-09 Thread John R Pierce
Christopher Chan wrote: Hmm, I see at most a 50% increase in motherboard pricing from a dual to a quad socket motherboard and that is with a difference in feature set too with the quad coming with an extra onboard LSI 8 port SAS controller. That is hardly going up non-linearly. (taking an

Re: [CentOS] Motherboards for HPC applications

2010-03-09 Thread Christopher Chan
On Wednesday, March 10, 2010 11:41 AM, John R Pierce wrote: Christopher Chan wrote: Hmm, I see at most a 50% increase in motherboard pricing from a dual to a quad socket motherboard and that is with a difference in feature set too with the quad coming with an extra onboard LSI 8 port SAS

Re: [CentOS] Motherboards for HPC applications

2010-03-08 Thread Gordon McLellan
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Eduardo Grosclaude eduardo.groscla...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Can somebody recommend CentOS-OK, dual socket motherboards for compute elements? A quick look up at Intel pages suggests they are thinking of them as server boards, but then they recommend them as

Re: [CentOS] Motherboards for HPC applications

2010-03-08 Thread Robert C Wittig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eduardo Grosclaude wrote: Hello, Can somebody recommend CentOS-OK, dual socket motherboards for compute elements? A quick look up at Intel pages suggests they are thinking of them as server boards, but then they recommend them as for SMB, I'm

Re: [CentOS] Motherboards for HPC applications

2010-03-08 Thread Michel van Deventer
Hi, 5400 series CPU). I have an Asus board that runs Linux and Opensolaris just fine, but will not allow any version of Windows to install. I want one of those :) Regards, Michel ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

Re: [CentOS] Motherboards for HPC applications

2010-03-08 Thread Gordon McLellan
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 12:49 PM, Eduardo Grosclaude eduardo.groscla...@gmail.com wrote: I'm targeting E5520. I'll buy in Argentina, with a high stack of all sort of costs threw upon the product, so budget may not mean much to foreigners. Eduardo, Are you going to be writing your own HPC

Re: [CentOS] Motherboards for HPC applications

2010-03-08 Thread Christopher Chan
On Tuesday, March 09, 2010 12:34 AM, Eduardo Grosclaude wrote: Hello, Can somebody recommend CentOS-OK, dual socket motherboards for compute elements? A quick look up at Intel pages suggests they are thinking of them as server boards, but then they recommend them as for SMB, I'm somewhat

Re: [CentOS] Motherboards for HPC applications

2010-03-08 Thread John R Pierce
Eduardo Grosclaude wrote: Hello, Can somebody recommend CentOS-OK, dual socket motherboards for compute elements? for real numeric stuff (as opposed to things like video processing that utilizes sse3), the AMD processors often outperform Intel. current AMD dual socket server processors

Re: [CentOS] Motherboards for HPC applications

2010-03-08 Thread nate
Gordon McLellan wrote: If your application can't support GPU based processing, I think Peter's suggestion is most fitting. Load up a rack of dual socket 5520 servers from Dell or HP and then save some money by building your own shared-storage to feed the cluster. The big vendors crank out