Re: [CentOS] smartd and palimpsest

2011-08-12 Thread Robert Heller
At Thu, 11 Aug 2011 22:24:23 -0600 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 04:05:47 + Joseph L. Casale wrote: I think you misunderstood the first reply: smartd, as in the init script is a means to alert root of pending issues, _it_ doesn't present the

Re: [CentOS] smartd and palimpsest

2011-08-12 Thread Frank Cox
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 08:11:58 -0400 Robert Heller wrote: The disk's *firmware* updated itself. ... Appearently, palimpsest does some of what smartctl does: accesses the SMART data on the drive. This is completely independent of smartd. Smartd is a daemon that runs in the background and

Re: [CentOS] smartd and palimpsest

2011-08-12 Thread Keith Roberts
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011, Robert Heller wrote: The disk's *firmware* updated itself. So long as the *disk* is powered up and spinning, its *firmware* is 'running' (or runs when the disk is accessed or something like that). Modern disks are a long, long way from the simple MFM drives of the 1970s

Re: [CentOS] smartd and palimpsest

2011-08-12 Thread Robert Heller
At Fri, 12 Aug 2011 20:36:25 +0100 (BST) CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: On Fri, 12 Aug 2011, Robert Heller wrote: The disk's *firmware* updated itself. So long as the *disk* is powered up and spinning, its *firmware* is 'running' (or runs when the disk is accessed or

Re: [CentOS] smartd and palimpsest

2011-08-12 Thread Keith Roberts
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011, Robert Heller wrote: *snip* The disk's *firmware* updated itself. So long as the *disk* is powered up and spinning, its *firmware* is 'running' (or runs when the disk is accessed or something like that). Modern disks are a long, long way from the simple MFM drives of

Re: [CentOS] smartd and palimpsest

2011-08-12 Thread Robert Heller
At Fri, 12 Aug 2011 22:35:12 +0100 (BST) CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: On Fri, 12 Aug 2011, Robert Heller wrote: *snip* The disk's *firmware* updated itself. So long as the *disk* is powered up and spinning, its *firmware* is 'running' (or runs when the disk is

Re: [CentOS] smartd and palimpsest

2011-08-11 Thread Robert Heller
At Thu, 11 Aug 2011 17:57:59 -0600 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: I notice that the smartd service is not running by default on a new installation. But palimpsest seems to get updated statistics every so often as when I check the statistics on a drive it says last updated some

Re: [CentOS] smartd and palimpsest

2011-08-11 Thread Frank Cox
On Thu, 11 Aug 2011 20:42:46 -0400 Robert Heller wrote: Almost all modern disk are S.M.A.R.T capable. What this means is that various information about the disk, mostly relating to its health can be monitored. This includes things like sector errors. If smartd is running root will get

Re: [CentOS] smartd and palimpsest

2011-08-11 Thread Joseph L. Casale
As smartd isn't running in the default Centos configuration, where does palimpsest get its information? Is it a self-contained program that doesn't require smartd or is something else happening behind the scenes? I think you misunderstood the first reply: smartd, as in the init script is a

Re: [CentOS] smartd and palimpsest

2011-08-11 Thread Frank Cox
On Fri, 12 Aug 2011 04:05:47 + Joseph L. Casale wrote: I think you misunderstood the first reply: smartd, as in the init script is a means to alert root of pending issues, _it_ doesn't present the data, _that_ init script simply checks it and reports it. You don't need it running to make

Re: [CentOS] smartd and palimpsest

2011-08-11 Thread Joseph L. Casale
Which still doesn't answer my question. Perhaps I'm wording it poorly -- I'll try again: Perhaps palimpsest runs smartctl and queries the device itself? Perhaps it borrowed code from the project and runs the query itself? I don't have any servers with GUI's, couldn't tell you...