Re: [CentOS] yum update (first in a long time) - /var/log/dovecot no longer used

2016-05-06 Thread m . roth
Johnny Hughes wrote: > Right. And I do want to point out, this list is really not the place to > discuss the positives and negatives of systemd vs. upstart vs. SysV. > The goal of CentOS is to build RHEL source code with the absolute > minimum changes required for branding. So, we get the init

Re: [CentOS] yum update (first in a long time) - /var/log/dovecot no longer used

2016-05-06 Thread m . roth
Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > On Fri, May 6, 2016 3:13 am, Gary Stainburn wrote: >> On Thursday 05 May 2016 17:16:17 Valeri Galtsev wrote: >>> There were several heated discussions on this list, and elsewhere. This >>> is >>> not intended to start the new one, but to help someone who missed them >>>

Re: [CentOS] yum update (first in a long time) - /var/log/dovecot no longer used

2016-05-06 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Fri, May 6, 2016 8:46 am, Johnny Hughes wrote: > On 05/06/2016 08:38 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> >> On Fri, May 6, 2016 3:13 am, Gary Stainburn wrote: >>> On Thursday 05 May 2016 17:16:17 Valeri Galtsev wrote: There were several heated discussions on this list, and elsewhere. This

Re: [CentOS] yum update (first in a long time) - /var/log/dovecot no longer used

2016-05-06 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 05/06/2016 08:38 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > On Fri, May 6, 2016 3:13 am, Gary Stainburn wrote: >> On Thursday 05 May 2016 17:16:17 Valeri Galtsev wrote: >>> There were several heated discussions on this list, and elsewhere. This >>> is >>> not intended to start the new one, but to help

Re: [CentOS] yum update (first in a long time) - /var/log/dovecot no longer used

2016-05-06 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Fri, May 6, 2016 3:13 am, Gary Stainburn wrote: > On Thursday 05 May 2016 17:16:17 Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> There were several heated discussions on this list, and elsewhere. This >> is >> not intended to start the new one, but to help someone who missed them >> to >> define their statute. >>

Re: [CentOS] yum update (first in a long time) - /var/log/dovecot no longer used

2016-05-06 Thread James B. Byrne
On Fri, May 6, 2016 04:36, John Hodrien wrote: > On Fri, 6 May 2016, Gary Stainburn wrote: > >> What I didn't expect, and what really threw me was that this has >> been implemented via a simply 'yum update' of an existing system, >> not at a major release level. > > > Something like RHEL is stuck

Re: [CentOS] yum update (first in a long time) - /var/log/dovecot no longer used

2016-05-06 Thread John Hodrien
On Fri, 6 May 2016, Gary Stainburn wrote: What I didn't expect, and what really threw me was that this has been implemented via a simply 'yum update' of an existing system, not at a major release level. journald has been there since you installed C7. You appear to have seen a change in

Re: [CentOS] yum update (first in a long time) - /var/log/dovecot no longer used

2016-05-06 Thread Gary Stainburn
On Thursday 05 May 2016 17:16:17 Valeri Galtsev wrote: > There were several heated discussions on this list, and elsewhere. This is > not intended to start the new one, but to help someone who missed them to > define their statute. > > People split into two groups: > > Opponents of systemd (,

Re: [CentOS] yum update (first in a long time) - /var/log/dovecot no longer used

2016-05-05 Thread John Hodrien
On Thu, 5 May 2016, Gary Stainburn wrote: Another change to my Centos 7.2 system since my 'yum update' yesterday is that /var/log/dovecot is no longer written to. If I do 'systemctl status dovecot' I can see log entries. How can I now do the equiv or 'tail -f ' Also, why has this changed, and