[CentOS-docs] Re : Wiki: Howtos/Virtualization/HyperV

2011-04-02 Thread Milos Blazevic
Hello Ozy,


having used Hyper-V for about two years, ever since it was 'published' 
in it's pre-release version immediately after release of Windows 2008 
Server, I'm very glad you found the time to write a Wiki article on the 
issue. I remember the time drifts in particular, and wasting two whole 
days troubleshooting the problem until I finally got it resolved - and 
at that time, LIC was not even at version 2.

However, I'm not here to chit-chat about my experiences with Hyper-V and 
CentOS, but to point out another issue (more of a pain in the butt) with 
this software setup, and that is - the rebuilding of the kernel modules 
every time you reinstall the kernel - something very recommended with EL 
distro such as CentOS. And, in this respect I'd like to add my 
'contribution' by pointing you to the article addressing this: 
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2387594

Yes, venturing to that domain does kinda make one a pilgrim in an unholy 
land,... But regardless, Hyper-V environment is no longer available to 
me - and hasn't been for the past 6 months or so, hence, I'm unable to 
test this for myself... but it's still one of the battles I don't 
consider won (by getting to the bottom of it) - and I think at least I 
got even.


Having said that, I would really appreciate if you could review the 
article, got back to me with your findings, and if the content from this 
source could find it's way into this fine Wiki article of yours :)


Kind regards,
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Homepage Request

2011-04-02 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Am 31.03.11 01:57, schrieb Jonathan Q.:
 Hi, I'd like to request the creation of a homepage. I'm working on an
 update of the Nagios HowTo, and I'd like to post it for review. My
 userid is JonathanQuist

Go ahead.

Ralph
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Homepage Request

2011-04-02 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Am 31.03.11 18:39, schrieb Jim Woods:
 Hello,
 
 I just want to create a homepage in the CentOS Wiki,
 
 Wiki name: JimWoods


Go ahead.

Ralph
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contributing to Wiki

2011-04-02 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Am 31.03.11 18:52, schrieb Jim Woods:
 Hello again,
 
 I want to contribute to the Wiki, in the WebsiteVer2 section,

What exactly there? You have seen the Thread(s) on the centos-devel
mailing list? There will be an IRC meeting, probably next week - thread
also is on the devel list.

Ralph
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Re : Wiki: Howtos/Virtualization/HyperV

2011-04-02 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Am 02.04.11 15:15, schrieb Milos Blazevic:

 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2387594


 Having said that, I would really appreciate if you could review the 
 article, got back to me with your findings, and if the content from this 
 source could find it's way into this fine Wiki article of yours :)

Does the license of that article allow that (I guess it could be
rewritten)? :)

I don't have a problem with the content (as dkms is available from
trusted repositories), so I'd have no problem with the inclusion either.
But yeah, maybe the main author of the article wants to chime in.

Ralph
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Re: [CentOS-docs] FOG on CentOS Wiki contribution suggestion?

2011-04-02 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Am 30.03.11 17:18, schrieb Alex Goffe:
 I have created the bulk of the document over at 
 http://wiki.centos.org/AlexGoffe, This is a basic hand holding guide 
 for a user to install fog 0.30 on centos 5.5, ideally aimed at users 
 with basic Linux experience. Anyone with FOG experience please chip in 
 with some further detail.

One thing I've seen (just skimmed over it once): There's no need to
explain on how to install rpmforge, it would be better to link ot the
instructions which already are on the wiki, as those also explain the
gotchas.

Regards,

Ralph

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Re : Wiki: Howtos/Virtualization/HyperV

2011-04-02 Thread Milos Blazevic
Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 Am 02.04.11 15:15, schrieb Milos Blazevic:

   
 http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2387594
 
 Having said that, I would really appreciate if you could review the 
 article, got back to me with your findings, and if the content from this 
 source could find it's way into this fine Wiki article of yours :)
 

 Does the license of that article allow that (I guess it could be
 rewritten)? :)

 I don't have a problem with the content (as dkms is available from
 trusted repositories), so I'd have no problem with the inclusion either.
 But yeah, maybe the main author of the article wants to chime in.

 Ralph
 ___
   
Damn, you're 100% right, Ralph... This definitely is something that 
should be taken into consideration. I really wouldn't like for this 
suggestion to cause any
trouble to either CentOS Wiki or to Ozy... However, I sadly have to 
admitt my knowledge is rather poor on this matter.

Hence, I'm hoping for someone with more experience in this legal stuff 
to chime in.
(But then again, I really don't see the reason why would the Redmond 
heretics mind - maybe not if the original article is pointed out as a 
reference and source for some part of the CentOS Wiki article?)


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contributing to Wiki

2011-04-02 Thread Jim Woods
Hi Ralph,

I emailed you sometime last week off-list. I re-read the website
version 2, next steps thread, tried to write an email in response,
realized it was terribly too long, and figured I would edit the wiki
pages or put up a couple of new ones.

That's when I realized I had to ask for approval to contribute to the wiki.

I did see a an initial note about an irc meeting, but no follow-ups.
Looking now, I guess I better post my availability. I am GMT -7, so
this may be a bit hard to schedule.

Thanks,

Jim

On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 10:41 AM, Ralph Angenendt
ralph.angene...@gmail.com wrote:
 Am 31.03.11 18:52, schrieb Jim Woods:
 Hello again,

 I want to contribute to the Wiki, in the WebsiteVer2 section,

 What exactly there? You have seen the Thread(s) on the centos-devel
 mailing list? There will be an IRC meeting, probably next week - thread
 also is on the devel list.

 Ralph
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Re: [CentOS] Door not hitting me on my way out

2011-04-02 Thread Dag Wieers
On Fri, 1 Apr 2011, John R Pierce wrote:

 On 04/01/11 6:54 PM, Digimer wrote:

 I would not fault someone for moving on, but I would when said person
 does so in a manner that only leads to unhelpful drama.

 yeah, seriously.  call the WHAHmbulance.

I don't see how this is helpful either. But that's the problem, there's 
no way anyone can help the releases moving forward... Good luck waiting :)

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Re: [CentOS] Cent OS clustering and Support.

2011-04-02 Thread RedShift
On 04/01/11 11:56, Kumar, Ranjan wrote:
 Hi,

 We are a Channel product team within LSI and we are trying to add Cent OS 5.5 
 to our compatibility Matrix. We found out that LSI currently has a 
 relationship with CentOS for another project on the Internal Storage division 
 but not with the OS Certification team. We require some information on CentOS 
 which will help us plan the deliverables. And considering the timelines we 
 need to deliver at it will be great if someone from CentOS can help us out in 
 this regard. If anybody else also can answer these in the mailing list, we 
 would be grateful. The questions that we have are as follows:-

 1)Cluster Support :

 ·Does CentOS 5.5 provides native cluster support ?

 ·Is there any cluster suite available for CentOS 5.5 ?

 ·Can we use the cluster suite in CentOS 4 for 5.5.

 2)Does CentOS have any self Certification tool which allows OEMs/Vendors to 
 qualify the OS and post it in their compatibility matrix?

 One we start our qualification, we might need some help in resolving 
 issues/defects on CentOS. Can we open a channel or Point of contact who will 
 be able to help us out with such issues.

 I would also request to forward this email to the right forum if the mailing 
 list we are sending to is not the appropriate one.

 Thanks and Regards.

 Kumar Ranjan

 LSI Technologies.



Though I'm hijacking your thread and probably crossing some boundaries, 
however, since LSI is actively trying to enhance their products by testing 
compatibility with Linux distributions, I find this warranted:

Can we look forward to something better than megacli for administering LSI 
based RAID controllers? I, and many others, have to work with LSI equipment 
daily and they are cumbersome to manage with the only viable tool, megacli. 
This tool is a very poorly documented - well let's be honest - undocumented 
piece of software. Yes, there is MSM (MegaRAID Storage Manager) but that's on 
the opposite end: it's large, uses java, and can't be run on headless servers. 
Another main problem with the megacli tool is the erratic way you have to 
specify command-line arguments and it doesn't always match what's in the help.  
Plus some examples wouldn't hurt.

So, although LSI RAID controllers may be compatible with Linux in the sense 
that they work, by being able to access the configured RAID arrays, being 
able to administer them in a better way might make a more convicing argument 
for compatibility with Linux and eventually make the decision process of 
choosing LSI products easier.


Thanks for listening,


Glenn
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Re: [CentOS] cobbler installation of CentOS-5.5

2011-04-02 Thread Timothy Murphy
Mark Pryor wrote:

  I'm trying to install CentOS-5.5 on my new HP
 micro-server,
  which has no CD drive.

 If all you want to do is kick-off an install via USB stick, you want
 
 http://mirrors.kernel.org/centos/5.5/os/x86_64/images/diskboot.img
 
 and use syslinux/memdisk to boot it on a vfat partition
 
 - syslinux.cfg 
 label c564
 kernel memdisk
 append initrd=/diskboot.img
 - snip 
 
 you can dd the whole IMG to your stick, but its cleaner to collect such
 images and reference them in syslinux.cfg.
 
 To setup your stick to bootZZ
 #syslinux -s /dev/sda   (unmounted USB disk)

Thanks for the suggestion.

But would that be simpler than transferring netinstall.iso to a USB stick?
(I've always found the syslinux documentation bizarre,
with its frequent references to floppies.)





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[CentOS] Run from usb

2011-04-02 Thread mattias
Are it possible?
With full root access?
And gnome etc


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Re: [CentOS] Run from usb

2011-04-02 Thread Michel van Deventer
You could try to be more specific ??

What do you want to run from USB ? And from what device ? 

On Sat, 2011-04-02 at 13:49 +0200, mattias wrote:
 Are it possible?
 With full root access?
 And gnome etc
 
 
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Re: [CentOS] Run from usb

2011-04-02 Thread mattias
I will run centos from usb like you can with e.g ubuntu
A usb pendrive
-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
Of Michel van Deventer
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 2:03 PM
To: centos@centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Run from usb


You could try to be more specific ??

What do you want to run from USB ? And from what device ? 

On Sat, 2011-04-02 at 13:49 +0200, mattias wrote:
 Are it possible?
 With full root access?
 And gnome etc
 
 
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Re: [CentOS] Run from usb

2011-04-02 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Mattias wrote on Sat, 2 Apr 2011 14:19:17 +0200:

 I will run centos from usb like you can with e.g ubuntu
 A usb pendrive

And what is the problem? This information is all available on the net.

Kai


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Re: [CentOS] repeated local ephemeral to 80

2011-04-02 Thread Kai Schaetzl
well, first question: why don't you allow local access to port 80?
There is no reason for that.
This is httpd itself. Switch on the status page and then look for 
yourself. It's a well-known phenomenon since Apache 2.0 or 2.2.

Kai


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[CentOS] Best way to extend pv partition for LVM

2011-04-02 Thread Kai Schaetzl
I've replaced disks in a hardware RAID 1 with larger disks and enlarged 
the array. Now I have to find a way to tell LVM about the extra space.
It seems there are two ways:
1. delete partition with fdisk and recreate a larger one. This is 
obviously a bit tricky if you do not want to lose data, I haven't 
investigated further yet.
2. create another partition on the disk, pvcreate another pv and then add 
it to the existing volume group with vgextend
3. a possible third way: increase the partition size. According to Google 
most if not all disk tools want to resize a file system as well and since 
there is no file system they will fail. I'm not sure about the status with 
this for the tools that come with CentOS (fdisk, parted, other?)

No. 2 seems to be the easy way. Any objections?
One I thought of:
What does happen when I use No. 2 and I add new lvs? Can it happen that 
new lvs get spanned over both pvs or can I assure that a pv gets created 
using only one of the pvs? (I would prefer the latter, it doesn't matter 
if I use a few MB because of the ineffectiveness of allocation.)

Thanks for recommendations.

Kai


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Re: [CentOS] Run from usb

2011-04-02 Thread Michel van Deventer
A quick Google search on 'centos from usbstick' returned the following
link (among others) :
https://projects.centos.org/trac/livecd/wiki/ImageFlash

Regards,

Michel

On Sat, 2011-04-02 at 14:53 +0200, Kai Schaetzl wrote:
 Mattias wrote on Sat, 2 Apr 2011 14:19:17 +0200:
 
  I will run centos from usb like you can with e.g ubuntu
  A usb pendrive
 
 And what is the problem? This information is all available on the net.
 
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Re: [CentOS] Run from usb

2011-04-02 Thread mattias
And this list are not only for problems

-Original Message-
From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
Of Kai Schaetzl
Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 2:53 PM
To: centos@centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Run from usb


Mattias wrote on Sat, 2 Apr 2011 14:19:17 +0200:

 I will run centos from usb like you can with e.g ubuntu
 A usb pendrive

And what is the problem? This information is all available on the net.

Kai


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Re: [CentOS] Best way to extend pv partition for LVM

2011-04-02 Thread Jay Leafey

Kai Schaetzl wrote:
I've replaced disks in a hardware RAID 1 with larger disks and enlarged 
the array. Now I have to find a way to tell LVM about the extra space.

It seems there are two ways:
1. delete partition with fdisk and recreate a larger one. This is 
obviously a bit tricky if you do not want to lose data, I haven't 
investigated further yet.
2. create another partition on the disk, pvcreate another pv and then add 
it to the existing volume group with vgextend
3. a possible third way: increase the partition size. According to Google 
most if not all disk tools want to resize a file system as well and since 
there is no file system they will fail. I'm not sure about the status with 
this for the tools that come with CentOS (fdisk, parted, other?)


No. 2 seems to be the easy way. Any objections?
One I thought of:
What does happen when I use No. 2 and I add new lvs? Can it happen that 
new lvs get spanned over both pvs or can I assure that a pv gets created 
using only one of the pvs? (I would prefer the latter, it doesn't matter 
if I use a few MB because of the ineffectiveness of allocation.)


Thanks for recommendations.

Kai



Kai,

I ran into the same circumstances a while back and, after a lot of 
consideration and testing, I chose door #2.  It's the most expedient way 
to do it if you have no other resources available, but it does have some 
inefficiencies involved in it.


You COULD use option #1, but it requires some additional resources and a 
LOT of shuffling.  Specifically:


- add an extra disk to the volume group (pvcreate, vgextend)
- move the extents off of the old PVs onto the new PV using pvmove
- drop the PVs from the old disks out of the VG
- delete the PVs from the old disks
- repartitioned the old disks
- created PVs on the old disks
- added the new/old PVs to the VG
- move the extents from the temporary PV to the new/old PVs
- remove the temporary disk from the VG, delete the temporary PV

WAY too much shuffling and moving parts to suit me.  The system never 
has to shut down, but performance can truly go into the dumper while 
pvmove is shuffling bits.


I was originally thinking option #3 would be the best (i.e. most 
efficient) way, but on a test system I tried several times to extend the 
partitions to include the extra space and failed miserably.  Like you, I 
got stalled at the point of trying to extend the partitions.  parted 
seems to refuse to do so unless there is a supported filesystem on the 
partition, which does not seem to include LVM.


If anybody has some hints about how to work around parted's reluctance 
to merely extend an arbitrary partition, I'd really like to know!  I 
know I could use fdisk to delete the old partition and recreated it at a 
larger size, but that scares the bejesus out of my timid soul, having 
had power failures during critical operations on more than one occasion.

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Re: [CentOS] Best way to extend pv partition for LVM

2011-04-02 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Sat, 2011-04-02 at 12:02 -0500, Jay Leafey wrote:
 Kai Schaetzl wrote:
  I've replaced disks in a hardware RAID 1 with larger disks and enlarged 
  the array. Now I have to find a way to tell LVM about the extra space.
  It seems there are two ways:
  2. create another partition on the disk, pvcreate another pv and then add 
  it to the existing volume group with vgextend
  No. 2 seems to be the easy way. Any objections?

Correct.

  One I thought of:
  What does happen when I use No. 2 and I add new lvs? Can it happen that 
  new lvs get spanned over both pvs or can I assure that a pv gets created 
  using only one of the pvs?

You can specify this [I believe] when you create an LV [which PVs are
eligable].

 I ran into the same circumstances a while back and, after a lot of 
 consideration and testing, I chose door #2.  It's the most expedient way 
 to do it if you have no other resources available, but it does have some 
 inefficiencies involved in it.

+1

And doing so is the entire point of LVM.

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[CentOS] WD RE4-GP Dropped From Raid

2011-04-02 Thread Gerhard Schneider

Did you check if you already have the G05 firmware on all RE4-GP?
The G04 firmware is not suitable for RAID.

http://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?f=182t=25057

GS

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Re: [CentOS] WD RE4-GP Dropped From Raid

2011-04-02 Thread Steve Brooks
On Sat, 2 Apr 2011, Gerhard Schneider wrote:


 Did you check if you already have the G05 firmware on all RE4-GP?
 The G04 firmware is not suitable for RAID.

 http://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?f=182t=25057

Yes all our drives are on G05 firmware.

Cheers,

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Re: [CentOS] Run from usb

2011-04-02 Thread Michael Klinosky
mattias wrote:
 And this list are not only for problems

  (snip)
 
 Mattias wrote on Sat, 2 Apr 2011 14:19:17 +0200:
 
 I will run centos from usb like you can with e.g ubuntu
 A usb pendrive
 
 And what is the problem? This information is all available on the net.
 
 Kai

Correct, Mattias. But, your lack of effort makes it a problem.
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[CentOS] ZFS @ centOS

2011-04-02 Thread Dawid Horacio Golebiewski
I have trouble finding definitive information about this. I am considering
the use of SME 7.5.1 (centOS based) for my server needs, but I do want to
use ZFS and I thus far I have only found information about the ZFS-Fuse
implementation and unclear hints that there is another way. Phoronix
reported that http://kqinfotech.com/ would release some form of ZFS for the
kernel but I have found nothing.

Can so. tell me if fuse-ZFS is more trouble than it's worth? 

Thanks in adv.

Dawide

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Re: [CentOS] ZFS @ centOS

2011-04-02 Thread compdoc
 Can so. tell me if fuse-ZFS is more trouble than it's worth?

I've tried both fuse-ZFS, and also zfs installed from rpm's on
zfsonlinux.org. Both on centos 5.5.

fuse-ZFS is more polished, but cut write speeds in half on my raid 5.

I ended up going ext4.

SME Server is great by the way - been using it for years.



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Re: [CentOS] ZFS @ centOS

2011-04-02 Thread John R Pierce
On 04/02/11 1:54 PM, Dawid Horacio Golebiewski wrote:
 I have trouble finding definitive information about this. I am considering
 the use of SME 7.5.1 (centOS based) for my server needs, but I do want to
 use ZFS and I thus far I have only found information about the ZFS-Fuse
 implementation and unclear hints that there is another way. Phoronix
 reported that http://kqinfotech.com/ would release some form of ZFS for the
 kernel but I have found nothing.

 Can so. tell me if fuse-ZFS is more trouble than it's worth?

ZFS isn't GPL, therefore can't be integrated into the kernel where a 
file system belongs, therefore is pretty much relegated to user space 
(fuse), and its just not very well supported on Linux.

If you really want to use ZFS, I'd suggest using Solaris or one of its 
derivatives (OpenIndiana, etc) where its native.




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Re: [CentOS] ZFS @ centOS

2011-04-02 Thread Dawid Horacy Golebiewski
I pondered Solaris for some time, but as I do not intend to build the OS 
from scratch and nexenta was to GUIed for me I started researching SME.
What puzzled me is the theory and the practice: RAIDz is the best 
solution from a theoretical standpoint (maximum features available) but 
still raid 5,65+0 etc. are used. Why?

Opensolaris supposedly stopped last February.


John R Pierce schrieb:
 On 04/02/11 1:54 PM, Dawid Horacio Golebiewski wrote:
   
 I have trouble finding definitive information about this. I am considering
 the use of SME 7.5.1 (centOS based) for my server needs, but I do want to
 use ZFS and I thus far I have only found information about the ZFS-Fuse
 implementation and unclear hints that there is another way. Phoronix
 reported that http://kqinfotech.com/ would release some form of ZFS for the
 kernel but I have found nothing.

 Can so. tell me if fuse-ZFS is more trouble than it's worth?
 

 ZFS isn't GPL, therefore can't be integrated into the kernel where a 
 file system belongs, therefore is pretty much relegated to user space 
 (fuse), and its just not very well supported on Linux.

 If you really want to use ZFS, I'd suggest using Solaris or one of its 
 derivatives (OpenIndiana, etc) where its native.




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Re: [CentOS] ZFS @ centOS

2011-04-02 Thread John R Pierce
On 04/02/11 2:28 PM, Dawid Horacy Golebiewski wrote:
 Opensolaris supposedly stopped last February.

opensolaris has been superceded by openindiana (full distribution) and 
illumos (a community developed/supported kernel derived from opensolaris).




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