Re: [CentOS] Some thoughts on systemd

2014-07-19 Thread Veli-Pekka Kestilä
On 19.7.2014 1:23, Keith Keller wrote: On 2014-07-18, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: But it does force people who should be focusing on improving an application to instead spend their time reconfiguring the startup configuration for a distribution just to keep it working the same

Re: [CentOS] el7: Thunderbird?

2014-07-19 Thread Chris Pemberton
On 07/18/2014 02:19 PM, Ned Slider wrote: I note EPEL has a thunderbird package but it seems very out of date at version 24.5.0. Version 24.6.0 was released 10 June, nearly 6 weeks ago, and fixed 3 critical security issues. Is this normal for EPEL to be so far behind on security updates? So

Re: [CentOS] Anyone using CentOS 6 on PC104 stacks?

2014-07-19 Thread Lamar Owen
On 07/18/2014 05:34 PM, Denniston, Todd A CIV NAVSURFWARCENDIV Crane wrote: Is anyone using CentOS 6 on PC104 stacks? I have tried a couple of different CPU cards with CentOS 6.5 [no updates]. I can install with the Install DVD to the PATA hard drive just fine, but they each hang up while

Re: [CentOS] el7: Thunderbird?

2014-07-19 Thread Ned Slider
On 19/07/14 13:25, Chris Pemberton wrote: On 07/18/2014 02:19 PM, Ned Slider wrote: I note EPEL has a thunderbird package but it seems very out of date at version 24.5.0. Version 24.6.0 was released 10 June, nearly 6 weeks ago, and fixed 3 critical security issues. Is this normal for EPEL to

Re: [CentOS] Some thoughts on systemd

2014-07-19 Thread Always Learning
On Sat, 2014-07-19 at 09:08 +0300, Veli-Pekka Kestilä wrote: It is actually funny how there seems to be so many opponents of systemd who want back the old ways of doing things. These are the causes:- 1. Familiarity with something that works and can be modified without much effort- very

Re: [CentOS] el7: Thunderbird?

2014-07-19 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 07/18/2014 02:19 PM, Ned Slider wrote: Hi Folks, Just wondering what Thunderbird users are doing on el7 now it's been removed from the distro? I note EPEL has a thunderbird package but it seems very out of date at version 24.5.0. Version 24.6.0 was released 10 June, nearly 6 weeks ago,

Re: [CentOS] Some thoughts on systemd

2014-07-19 Thread William Woods
On Jul 19, 2014, at 9:05 AM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: On Sat, 2014-07-19 at 09:08 +0300, Veli-Pekka Kestilä wrote: It is actually funny how there seems to be so many opponents of systemd who want back the old ways of doing things. These are the causes:- 1.

Re: [CentOS] Some thoughts on systemd

2014-07-19 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 07/19/2014 09:05 AM, Always Learning wrote: On Sat, 2014-07-19 at 09:08 +0300, Veli-Pekka Kestilä wrote: It is actually funny how there seems to be so many opponents of systemd who want back the old ways of doing things. These are the causes:- 1. Familiarity with something that works

Re: [CentOS] Some thoughts on systemd

2014-07-19 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 07/19/2014 11:10 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: On 07/19/2014 09:05 AM, Always Learning wrote: On Sat, 2014-07-19 at 09:08 +0300, Veli-Pekka Kestilä wrote: It is actually funny how there seems to be so many opponents of systemd who want back the old ways of doing things. These are the causes:-

Re: [CentOS] Some thoughts on systemd

2014-07-19 Thread Always Learning
On Sat, 2014-07-19 at 11:10 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote: On 07/19/2014 09:05 AM, Always Learning wrote: 4. Lack of knowledge about the replacement. Well .. all of that may be true and systemd may be the devil ... but we would still have it as CentOS-7 rebuilds RHEL-7 sources. Debating

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7, not systemd questions

2014-07-19 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 07/09/2014 10:19 PM, Ian Pilcher wrote: On 07/09/2014 02:48 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Interesting... can I do that with the preupgrade from 6.5? And I *rarely* see grub updated I'm not familiar with preupgrade, but I would guess that this method wouldn't work. (Actually I'd be

Re: [CentOS] Centos 7 NetInstall: Pane is dead

2014-07-19 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 07/13/2014 07:31 PM, Nordgren, Bryce L -FS wrote: Hi list, I downloaded the netinstall iso, burned it to disk, and tried to install on my old Dell PowerEdge 2900 (Intel Xeon / 8Gb ram). Machine is connected to a KVM. The Centos 6 netinstall iso worked flawlessly on this exact

Re: [CentOS] FirewallD and Network manager on production servers (C7)

2014-07-19 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 07/15/2014 08:25 PM, Florian La Roche wrote: Hello Eero Volotinen, On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 08:59:14PM +0300, Eero Volotinen wrote: Hi List, Are you really using firewalld and network-manager on Centos 7 production servers or old way disabling network manager and using pure iptables like

Re: [CentOS] Disable auto window maximize

2014-07-19 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 07/16/2014 11:19 PM, Steve wrote: Chris Pemberton cjpe...@gmail.com wrote: On 07/15/2014 09:59 AM, Steve wrote: Anyone? Gnome 3 was released over 3 years ago... a simple web search yields: # yum install dconf-editor It's all in there. But Gnome 3 is new to CentOS. In fact

Re: [CentOS] Installing CentOS7 boot loader into the /boot partition

2014-07-19 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 07/17/2014 03:33 PM, Edward Diener wrote: The grub2 boot loader is installed in a /boot partition in my Fedora 20 installation and works properly. But I do create 1 GB boot partitions and maybe most people do not use as much space for their boot partition as I do. From last 1-2

Re: [CentOS] Some thoughts on systemd

2014-07-19 Thread William Woods
On Jul 19, 2014, at 1:39 PM, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: On Sat, 2014-07-19 at 11:10 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote: On 07/19/2014 09:05 AM, Always Learning wrote: 4. Lack of knowledge about the replacement. Well .. all of that may be true and systemd may be the devil ...

[CentOS] installer and os-prober not finding Windows XP installation

2014-07-19 Thread Eric Smith
I installed CentOS 7 on a Shuttle X27D box (dual-core Atom 330), and so far it seems to work fine, but it didn't set up a Grub2 entry for the existing Windows XP installation in the first partition (MBR). Running os-prober generates no output. fdisk shows that the NTFS partition is still present

Re: [CentOS] el7: Thunderbird?

2014-07-19 Thread g
On 07/19/2014 06:25 PM, Chris Pemberton wrote: 2. I install a custom hosts file ( http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/ ). This protects all applications in one swoop, not just the browser. or so it is claimed. i saw post about it. pulled it. backed up my custom list. added custom list to

Re: [CentOS] el7: Thunderbird?

2014-07-19 Thread g
On 07/19/2014 05:30 AM, g wrote: On 07/19/2014 06:25 PM, Chris Pemberton wrote: 2. I install a custom hosts file ( http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/ ). This protects all applications in one swoop, not just the browser. or so it is claimed. i saw post about it. pulled it. backed up

Re: [CentOS] installer and os-prober not finding Windows XP installation

2014-07-19 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 07/19/2014 11:24 PM, Eric Smith wrote: I installed CentOS 7 on a Shuttle X27D box (dual-core Atom 330), and so far it seems to work fine, but it didn't set up a Grub2 entry for the existing Windows XP installation in the first partition (MBR). Running os-prober generates no output. fdisk

[CentOS] CentOS to reside near a NTFS system

2014-07-19 Thread wwp
Hello there, the *old* PC (Turion 64 MT-32 800MHz, 1Gb RAM) of my gf is running Windows XP, and I plan on installing a CentOS beside of it, allowing her to select the OS at boot-time. Other system/OS installing options are not retained, please avoid ;-). My first attempt was to install the

Re: [CentOS] CentOS to reside near a NTFS system

2014-07-19 Thread John R Pierce
On 7/19/2014 2:55 PM, wwp wrote: nor shrink the NTFS partition in order to install the CentOS6 system on disk. I strongly dislike shrinking file systems in place, and prefer to backup the whole FS, repartition the disk, then restore the FS to the new smaller partition. for Windows NTFS

Re: [CentOS] CentOS to reside near a NTFS system

2014-07-19 Thread wwp
Hello John, On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 15:07:08 -0700 John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: On 7/19/2014 2:55 PM, wwp wrote: nor shrink the NTFS partition in order to install the CentOS6 system on disk. I strongly dislike shrinking file systems in place, and prefer to backup the whole

Re: [CentOS] CentOS to reside near a NTFS system

2014-07-19 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 07/19/2014 11:55 PM, wwp wrote: Hello there, the *old* PC (Turion 64 MT-32 800MHz, 1Gb RAM) of my gf is running Windows XP, and I plan on installing a CentOS beside of it, allowing her to select the OS at boot-time. Other system/OS installing options are not retained, please avoid ;-).

[CentOS] Development Tools install

2014-07-19 Thread F. Mendez
Hello. I've been looking for information regarding how to install Development Tools and Libraries on CentOS 7 but had no luck. Would any one be so kind to share how wtih me? Thanks. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

Re: [CentOS] Development Tools install

2014-07-19 Thread John R Pierce
On 7/19/2014 4:00 PM, F. Mendez wrote: I've been looking for information regarding how to install Development Tools and Libraries on CentOS 7 but had no luck. Would any one be so kind to share how wtih me? yum groupinstall Development Tools worked for all previous versions.yum grouplist

Re: [CentOS] Development Tools install

2014-07-19 Thread F. Mendez
Hello John, very kind of you for your reply. However, I did tried groupinstall and it shows error saying that there is none group list of that name. Even after yum grouplist and I see it there. It keeps failing. It only offer a solution: yum group mark install ... which is not the actual

Re: [CentOS] Development Tools install

2014-07-19 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 07/20/2014 01:12 AM, F. Mendez wrote: Hello John, very kind of you for your reply. However, I did tried groupinstall and it shows error saying that there is none group list of that name. Even after yum grouplist and I see it there. It keeps failing. It only offer a solution: yum group

Re: [CentOS] Development Tools install

2014-07-19 Thread F. Mendez
Hi Ljubomir, Yes I have :). I've been working with this distro since CentOS 4, so I familiar with it. That is why I am concerned about grouinstall of dev tools is not working as always. El 19/07/2014 06:24 p.m., Ljubomir Ljubojevic escribió: On 07/20/2014 01:12 AM, F. Mendez wrote: Hello

Re: [CentOS] Development Tools install

2014-07-19 Thread Scott Robbins
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 06:12:12PM -0500, F. Mendez wrote: Hello John, very kind of you for your reply. However, I did tried groupinstall and it shows error saying that there is none group list of that name. Even after yum grouplist and I see it there. It keeps failing. It only offer a

Re: [CentOS] Development Tools install

2014-07-19 Thread John R Pierce
On 7/19/2014 4:28 PM, F. Mendez wrote: Hi Ljubomir, Yes I have:). I've been working with this distro since CentOS 4, so I familiar with it. That is why I am concerned about grouinstall of dev tools is not working as always. odd. works here... # uname -a cat /etc/redhat-release Linux

Re: [CentOS] Development Tools install

2014-07-19 Thread F. Mendez
Hello Scott. The @Development I actually did'nt knew. Will try it and report. Thanks El 19/07/2014 06:30 p.m., Scott Robbins escribió: On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 06:12:12PM -0500, F. Mendez wrote: Hello John, very kind of you for your reply. However, I did tried groupinstall and it shows

Re: [CentOS] Development Tools install

2014-07-19 Thread F. Mendez
Hi Jhon. It is actually odd. I done exactly what you shared and I get nothing of what you do. El 19/07/2014 06:42 p.m., John R Pierce escribió: On 7/19/2014 4:28 PM, F. Mendez wrote: Hi Ljubomir, Yes I have:). I've been working with this distro since CentOS 4, so I familiar with it. That

Re: [CentOS] Development Tools install

2014-07-19 Thread F. Mendez
It seems that actually the packages are in the grouplist. But for some unknown reason when I hit: yum groupinstall Development Tools it shows: No packages in any requested group available to install or update. El 19/07/2014 06:30 p.m., Scott Robbins escribió: On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at

Re: [CentOS] Development Tools install

2014-07-19 Thread Scott Robbins
On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 06:51:21PM -0500, F. Mendez wrote: Hello Scott. The @Development I actually did'nt knew. Will try it and report. For whatever reason--maybe because I'm left handed, so it's easier to hit @ than a ' or , it's what I usually use. If you use yum grouplist -v, it will

Re: [CentOS] Development Tools install

2014-07-19 Thread Fred Smith
On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 01:24:54AM +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: On 07/20/2014 01:12 AM, F. Mendez wrote: Hello John, very kind of you for your reply. However, I did tried groupinstall and it shows error saying that there is none group list of that name. Even after yum grouplist and

[CentOS] screensaver in C7

2014-07-19 Thread Fred Smith
I'm at the stage of poking at a C7 install in Vbox, and am struggling to figure out how to control the screensaver. there doesn't seem to be a gnome screensaver package (like there was in gnome2), and I can't find any installed packages that control it. gconf-editor doesn't have anything that

[CentOS-virt] C7 image that can boot on x4c6

2014-07-19 Thread Venkat Rayaprolu
Hi All, I am new to this community. I have experience in testing different virtualization products such as VMware, Xen and Oracle Virtual Server for more than 8 years. Can I contribute to testing C7 image that can boot on x4c6? Please help me on whom to contact for this? Thanks,