Re: [CentOS] question centos stream 8 applying updates

2020-12-11 Thread Pete Biggs
On Fri, 2020-12-11 at 22:05 +0100, Gionatan Danti wrote: > Il 2020-12-11 19:26 Walter H. ha scritto: > > with CentOS Stream there are only updates till 2024(!) not 2029 as it > > be expected ... > > Is that officially confirmed? If RHEL 8 is expected to have an 8.10 > release sometime in the

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 future

2020-12-11 Thread Yves Bellefeuille
"John R. Dennison" wrote: > Yes, far be it from people to worry about putting food on their > children's table during a pandemic. Oh, please. Nobody suggested this has anything to do with the pandemic; nobody even mentioned the pandemic, except you. -- Yves Bellefeuille

Re: [CentOS] The conclusio: CentOS is dead

2020-12-11 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 07:50:00PM +0100, Walter H. wrote: > it is called "rolling release" and no one gave officially a > statement to the question I asked, It should not have been called a rolling release. It is not a rolling release in the sense that many Linux distributions use it. > if it

Re: [CentOS] Baffled by firewall rules with a Qemu VM, CentOS 7

2020-12-11 Thread Anthony K
On 12/12/20 8:15 am, Lists wrote: I've understood iptables well enough for a long, long time, and although I think firewall-cmd is a poor replacement for iptables, I've always been able to "get it to work" by comparing output with iptables -L or iptables -S and using a direct-rule or two. And

[CentOS] RESOLVED Re: Baffled by firewall rules with a Qemu VM, CentOS 7

2020-12-11 Thread Lists
> > Did you try to apply the iptable rules by hand for a test? > This turned out to be the exact hint I needed. I turned off firewalld, and applied the rules I'd quoted exactly, to see a different result. Eventually, it turned out that iptables does not expose zones, and found that applying

Re: [CentOS] question centos stream 8 applying updates

2020-12-11 Thread Leon Fauster via CentOS
Am 11.12.20 um 23:53 schrieb Pete Biggs: On Fri, 2020-12-11 at 22:05 +0100, Gionatan Danti wrote: Il 2020-12-11 19:26 Walter H. ha scritto: with CentOS Stream there are only updates till 2024(!) not 2029 as it be expected ... Is that officially confirmed? If RHEL 8 is expected to have an

Re: [CentOS] Debug information packages for 8.3 missing?

2020-12-11 Thread Oliver Freyermuth via CentOS
Am 11.12.20 um 20:21 schrieb Ulf Volmer: On 11.12.20 19:44, Oliver Freyermuth via CentOS wrote: Am 11.12.20 um 18:55 schrieb Ulf Volmer: On 08.12.20 23:02, Oliver Freyermuth via CentOS wrote: after the upgrade from 8.2 to 8.3 one of the applications we use has unclear Kerberos authentication

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 future

2020-12-11 Thread John R. Dennison
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 09:51:05PM -0500, Yves Bellefeuille wrote: > I'm most disappointed with the silence from Karanbir and friends. > Obviously their Red Hat salary is more important to them than keeping > CentOS the way it was. :-( Yes, far be it from people to worry about putting food on

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 future

2020-12-11 Thread John R. Dennison
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 10:11:36PM -0500, Yves Bellefeuille wrote: > > Oh, please. Nobody suggested this has anything to do with the > pandemic; nobody even mentioned the pandemic, except you. "Red Hat salary more important" This implies you expect them to put their jobs on the line to protect

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 future

2020-12-11 Thread Yves Bellefeuille
I'm most disappointed with the silence from Karanbir and friends. Obviously their Red Hat salary is more important to them than keeping CentOS the way it was. :-( -- Yves Bellefeuille GPG key 837A6134 at http://members.storm.ca/~yan/pgp.asc ___

Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-11 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 12/10/20 6:28 PM, Konstantin Boyandin via CentOS wrote: Allow me to disagree. We both trust Chris Wright's words, don't we? CTO won't lie. Citing him: "To be exact, CentOS Stream is an upstream development platform for ecosystem developers. It will be updated several times a day. So, like

Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-11 Thread Konstantin Boyandin via CentOS
On 11.12.2020 15:23, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 12/10/20 6:28 PM, Konstantin Boyandin via CentOS wrote: >> Allow me to disagree. We both trust Chris Wright's words, don't we? CTO >> won't lie. Citing him: >> >> "To be exact, CentOS Stream is an upstream development platform for >> ecosystem

Re: [CentOS] Have lost access to ZFS pools with latest CentOS 8 kernels

2020-12-11 Thread Tru Huynh
Hi they are working on it (https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/issues/11307 and https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/pull/11322), and they might CI stream too (https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/issues/11320). -> 0.8.6 should fix it -> or use openzfs-2.0.0 Tru (not taking for openzfs dev) On Fri, Dec 11,

Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-11 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Thu, 10 Dec, 2020 at 13:12:26 -0600, Tom Bishop wrote: > +1 > Looks like between Springdale, Rocky and CloudLinux there will be options. > Such a bad decision that RH made to do this... True. I just hope that the various alternatives will pool their resources. History has shown that RHEL

Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-11 Thread Scott Robbins
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 12:21:35PM +, Liam O'Toole wrote: > On Thu, 10 Dec, 2020 at 13:12:26 -0600, Tom Bishop wrote: > > +1 > > Looks like between Springdale, Rocky and CloudLinux there will be options. > > Such a bad decision that RH made to do this... > > True. I just hope that the various

Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-11 Thread Liam O'Toole
On Fri, 11 Dec, 2020 at 07:48:25 -0500, Scott Robbins wrote: > On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 12:21:35PM +, Liam O'Toole wrote: > > On Thu, 10 Dec, 2020 at 13:12:26 -0600, Tom Bishop wrote: > > > +1 > > > Looks like between Springdale, Rocky and CloudLinux there will be options. > > > Such a bad

Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-11 Thread Konstantin Boyandin via CentOS
On 11.12.2020 17:41, Alessandro Baggi wrote: > Il 11/12/20 10:24, Konstantin Boyandin via CentOS ha scritto: >> My primary objection is breach of trust. RH shouldn't have lied at least >> to CentOS community. >> >> Other bug-to-bug compatible RHEL clones will replace the CentOS, so this >> is the

Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-11 Thread Alessandro Baggi
Il 11/12/20 12:59, Konstantin Boyandin via CentOS ha scritto: On 11.12.2020 17:41, Alessandro Baggi wrote: Il 11/12/20 10:24, Konstantin Boyandin via CentOS ha scritto: My primary objection is breach of trust. RH shouldn't have lied at least to CentOS community. Other bug-to-bug compatible

Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-11 Thread Alessandro Baggi
Il 11/12/20 10:24, Konstantin Boyandin via CentOS ha scritto: My primary objection is breach of trust. RH shouldn't have lied at least to CentOS community. Other bug-to-bug compatible RHEL clones will replace the CentOS, so this is the part I am less worried about. If someone is happy with

Re: [CentOS] 8-stream dnf overly verbose

2020-12-11 Thread Pete Biggs
On Fri, 2020-12-11 at 11:13 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 03:53:04PM +, Randal, Phil wrote: > > Funnily enough mere mortals like me aren't allowed to view that bug report. > > Are you sure? I am able to see it without logging in. > > > > I've filed a bug:

Re: [CentOS] 8-stream dnf overly verbose

2020-12-11 Thread Randal, Phil
It's been fixed :-) Phil -Original Message- From: CentOS On Behalf Of Matthew Miller Sent: 11 December 2020 16:14 To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] 8-stream dnf overly verbose This message originated from outside of Herefordshire Council or Hoople. Please do not click

Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-11 Thread Victor Pereira
On the other hand, I believe and seeing the glass half full, that this is good to stir the waters a bit since it has been a long time since we saw new Forks of Operating Systems that could be so important and that make the communities work together again in something common without going through a

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 Stream: The Good, The Bad, The Ugly

2020-12-11 Thread Victor Pereira
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 7:23 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 02:47:09PM -0300, Victor Pereira wrote: > > My first impression when I read the news was that some MBA had made the > > decision and I decided to find out if there were Red Hat developers > > Unemployed ... :-),

Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-11 Thread Frank Cox
On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 18:06:36 +0100 Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > I've just had a conversation with one of the Oracle Linux guys. I can't really > quote him publicly, but since I've already had some good experiences with OL > ten years ago (when I installed the local motorway company's servers), I guess

Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-11 Thread Kay Schenk
On 12/11/20 12:23 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 12/10/20 6:28 PM, Konstantin Boyandin via CentOS wrote: Allow me to disagree. We both trust Chris Wright's words, don't we? CTO won't lie. Citing him: "To be exact, CentOS Stream is an upstream development platform for ecosystem developers. It

Re: [CentOS] 8-stream dnf overly verbose

2020-12-11 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 12/11/20 8:31 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: Also, WOAH. I just noticed that CentOS Stream bugs are to be filed as _actual versions of RHEL 8 and RHEL 9_. That's amazing. I don't usually like to reply when I have nothing to add, but that is *holy cow* level of amazing.

Re: [CentOS] Moving to CentOS 8 Stream

2020-12-11 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 07:13:19AM -0700, James Szinger wrote: > Except that there are no container images available for Stream. :( There certainly will be. Also for container use cases, you might want to consider UBI, which is literal RHEL binaries, and which becomes supported when run on

Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-11 Thread Phelps, Matthew
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 11:07 AM Richard B. Pyne wrote: > Considering that it is being spearheaded by the originator of CentOS, > with the original goals of CentOS (before being swallowed by RH then > IBM) as a stable, enterprise OS, I'm putting my support behind Rocky > rockylinux.org and would

Re: [CentOS] 8-stream dnf overly verbose

2020-12-11 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 11:19:16AM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > > > > I've filed a bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1906839 > > > > on CentOS Stream distribution. > > Some minutes ago I was also not able to access the bug. Now I'm able. So > > someone has changed the

Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-11 Thread Phelps, Matthew
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 11:30 AM Victor Pereira wrote: > On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 1:15 PM Phelps, Matthew > wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 11:07 AM Richard B. Pyne > > wrote: > > > > > Considering that it is being spearheaded by the originator of CentOS, > > > with the original goals of

Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-11 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 11/12/2020 à 17:14, Phelps, Matthew a écrit : > My gut feeling is Oracle doesn't see Oracle Linux as a money maker, apart > from getting some support contracts from it, so they'll leave it be for a > while. I've just had a conversation with one of the Oracle Linux guys. I can't really quote

Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-11 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 12/11/20 8:00 AM, Sergio Belkin wrote: how could you ask trust and confidence with something like that: I'll repeat what I said earlier, CentOS has never offered the things people are complaining about losing.  They've never asked for your trust and confidence.  Both Red Hat and the

Re: [CentOS] Moving to CentOS 8 Stream

2020-12-11 Thread Japheth Cleaver
On 12/11/2020 8:12 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 07:13:19AM -0700, James Szinger wrote: Except that there are no container images available for Stream. :( There certainly will be. Also for container use cases, you might want to consider UBI, which is literal RHEL binaries,

Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-11 Thread Scott Robbins
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 01:09:46PM +, Liam O'Toole wrote: > On Fri, 11 Dec, 2020 at 07:48:25 -0500, Scott Robbins wrote: > > One assumes however, that this wouldn't happen with OEL, though one never > > knows. > > OEL = Oracle Enterprise Linux? There is no reason in heaven or hell to >

Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-11 Thread Gianluca Cecchi
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 4:33 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 12:23:59AM -0800, Gordon Messmer wrote: > > >This is not a production operating system." > > Does he say that CentOS is a production operating system? > > > > As far as I know, Red Hat has never endorsed running

Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-11 Thread Richard B. Pyne
Considering that it is being spearheaded by the originator of CentOS, with the original goals of CentOS (before being swallowed by RH then IBM) as a stable, enterprise OS, I'm putting my support behind Rocky rockylinux.org and would urge others to do the same. I've been around the Linux world

Re: [CentOS] 8-stream dnf overly verbose

2020-12-11 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 03:53:04PM +, Randal, Phil wrote: > Funnily enough mere mortals like me aren't allowed to view that bug report. Are you sure? I am able to see it without logging in. > I've filed a bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1906839 > on CentOS Stream

Re: [CentOS] 8-stream dnf overly verbose

2020-12-11 Thread Gianluca Cecchi
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 5:13 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 03:53:04PM +, Randal, Phil wrote: > > Funnily enough mere mortals like me aren't allowed to view that bug > report. > > Are you sure? I am able to see it without logging in. > > > > I've filed a bug:

Re: [CentOS] 8-stream dnf overly verbose

2020-12-11 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 05:15:49PM +0100, Gianluca Cecchi wrote: > > > I've filed a bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1906839 > > > on CentOS Stream distribution. > Some minutes ago I was also not able to access the bug. Now I'm able. So > someone has changed the accessibility.

Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-11 Thread Victor Pereira
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 1:15 PM Phelps, Matthew wrote: > On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 11:07 AM Richard B. Pyne > wrote: > > > Considering that it is being spearheaded by the originator of CentOS, > > with the original goals of CentOS (before being swallowed by RH then > > IBM) as a stable,

Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-11 Thread Leon Fauster via CentOS
Am 11.12.20 um 17:30 schrieb Victor Pereira: On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 1:15 PM Phelps, Matthew wrote: On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 11:07 AM Richard B. Pyne wrote: Considering that it is being spearheaded by the originator of CentOS, with the original goals of CentOS (before being swallowed by RH

Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-11 Thread Victor Pereira
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 2:07 PM Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > Le 11/12/2020 à 17:14, Phelps, Matthew a écrit : > > My gut feeling is Oracle doesn't see Oracle Linux as a money maker, apart > > from getting some support contracts from it, so they'll leave it be for a > > while. > > I've just had a

Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-11 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 11/12/2020 à 14:09, Liam O'Toole a écrit : > OEL = Oracle Enterprise Linux? There is no reason in heaven or hell to trust > them. As far as I'm concerned, they're the good guys now. :o) -- Microlinux - Solutions informatiques durables 7, place de l'église - 30730 Montpezat Site :

Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-11 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 12:23:59AM -0800, Gordon Messmer wrote: > >This is not a production operating system." > Does he say that CentOS is a production operating system? > > As far as I know, Red Hat has never endorsed running CentOS in > production, so I don't understand why it's significant

Re: [CentOS] 8-stream dnf overly verbose

2020-12-11 Thread Randal, Phil
Funnily enough mere mortals like me aren't allowed to view that bug report. RedHat might have to rethink a few things. Cheers, Phil -Original Message- From: CentOS On Behalf Of Marek Blaha Sent: 11 December 2020 14:27 To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] 8-stream dnf overly

Re: [CentOS] 8-stream dnf overly verbose

2020-12-11 Thread Marek Blaha
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 6:54 PM Pete Biggs wrote: > > > In moving a test machine from 8.3 to 8-stream the main thing I've > noticed is that dnf has become very verbose. It's as if someone has > turned on the -v permanently. > > I've tried using '-q' (it says nothing then) and I've tried adjusting

Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-11 Thread Tom Bishop
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020, 7:53 AM Scott Robbins wrote: > On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 01:09:46PM +, Liam O'Toole wrote: > > On Fri, 11 Dec, 2020 at 07:48:25 -0500, Scott Robbins wrote: > > > > > One assumes however, that this wouldn't happen with OEL, though one > never > > > knows. > > > > OEL =

Re: [CentOS] [CentOS-devel] https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/

2020-12-11 Thread centos--- via CentOS
On 12/9/20 04:46, Andrea Biscuola wrote: IMHO, if you based the most critical part of your infrastructure on CentOS, you did it wrong. [...] We also just switched to CentOS 8 from CentOS 6 spending around 6 months of work in doing so, but the most important part of our infrastructure is on

Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-11 Thread Leon Fauster via CentOS
Am 11.12.20 um 09:23 schrieb Gordon Messmer: On 12/10/20 6:28 PM, Konstantin Boyandin via CentOS wrote: Allow me to disagree. We both trust Chris Wright's words, don't we? CTO won't lie. Citing him: "To be exact, CentOS Stream is an upstream development platform for ecosystem developers. It

Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-11 Thread Sergio Belkin
El vie, 11 dic 2020 a las 12:33, Matthew Miller () escribió: > On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 12:23:59AM -0800, Gordon Messmer wrote: > > >This is not a production operating system." > > Does he say that CentOS is a production operating system? > > > > As far as I know, Red Hat has never endorsed

Re: [CentOS] Moving to CentOS 8 Stream

2020-12-11 Thread James Szinger
On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 16:08:09 -0300 Sergio Belkin wrote: > El jue, 10 dic 2020 a las 15:48, Kienker, Fred () > escribió: > > > "It takes years to build a reputation and seconds to destroy it." > > > > -- Business 101 class > > > Fear not in DEVops world you can rebuild your reputation in one >

Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-11 Thread Simon Matter
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 2:07 PM Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > >> Le 11/12/2020 à 17:14, Phelps, Matthew a écrit : >> > My gut feeling is Oracle doesn't see Oracle Linux as a money maker, >> apart >> > from getting some support contracts from it, so they'll leave it be >> for a >> > while. >> >> I've

Re: [CentOS] Moving to CentOS 8 Stream

2020-12-11 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 09:39:54AM -0800, Japheth Cleaver wrote: > It would be nice to have updates from RedHat on where it's > positioning UBI then. Previously it had directly pointed to specific > target use-cases, which limit its usefulness for even some pretty > simple cases outside that

Re: [CentOS] question centos stream 8 applying updates

2020-12-11 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 12/10/20 2:53 PM, edward via CentOS wrote: after reading some info on centos stream is a  rolling release. i'm wondering applying It's not a "rolling release" in the most commonly used sense. There just isn't a minor number for releases.  CentOS Stream 8 will always be CentOS Stream 8,

Re: [CentOS] question centos stream 8 applying updates

2020-12-11 Thread Walter H.
On 11.12.2020 19:19, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 12/10/20 2:53 PM, edward via CentOS wrote: after reading some info on centos stream is a  rolling release. i'm wondering applying It's not a "rolling release" in the most commonly used sense. There just isn't a minor number for releases. 

Re: [CentOS] Debug information packages for 8.3 missing?

2020-12-11 Thread Ulf Volmer
On 08.12.20 23:02, Oliver Freyermuth via CentOS wrote: > after the upgrade from 8.2 to 8.3 one of the applications we use has > unclear Kerberos authentication issues. I can't tell anything regarding the debuginfo package, but I can point you into the direction, that DES support is dropped in

Re: [CentOS] question centos stream 8 applying updates

2020-12-11 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 12/11/20 10:19 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote: Just one ten-year long release. My mistake: Stream releases are five-year long releases (RHEL's "full" support period). ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

Re: [CentOS] question centos stream 8 applying updates

2020-12-11 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 10:19:56AM -0800, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 12/10/20 2:53 PM, edward via CentOS wrote: > >after reading some info on centos stream is a  rolling release. > >i'm wondering applying > > It's not a "rolling release" in the most commonly used sense. There > just isn't a minor

Re: [CentOS] Debug information packages for 8.3 missing?

2020-12-11 Thread Oliver Freyermuth via CentOS
Am 11.12.20 um 18:55 schrieb Ulf Volmer: On 08.12.20 23:02, Oliver Freyermuth via CentOS wrote: after the upgrade from 8.2 to 8.3 one of the applications we use has unclear Kerberos authentication issues. I can't tell anything regarding the debuginfo package, but I can point you into the

[CentOS] The conclusio: CentOS is dead

2020-12-11 Thread Walter H.
Why? it is called "rolling release" and no one gave officially a statement to the question I asked, if it is meant like that of Win10 ... a beta release is not the same that many expect as a stable system, as they are used to have with CentOS; you should think of renaming CentOS to

[CentOS] Question on nmcli CentOS 8

2020-12-11 Thread Jerry Geis
I am trying to modify the current eth0 with nmcli I ran this: nmcli con mod eth0 ipv4.addr 192.168.1.15/22 gw4 192.168.1.1 ipv4.dns 192.168.1.14 and now nmcli shows (two ipv4) addresses. inet4 192.168.1.15/22 inet4 192.168.2.212/22 I think the original connection was DHCP... the

Re: [CentOS] Debug information packages for 8.3 missing?

2020-12-11 Thread Ulf Volmer
On 11.12.20 19:44, Oliver Freyermuth via CentOS wrote: > Am 11.12.20 um 18:55 schrieb Ulf Volmer: >> On 08.12.20 23:02, Oliver Freyermuth via CentOS wrote: >> >>> after the upgrade from 8.2 to 8.3 one of the applications we use has >>> unclear Kerberos authentication issues. >> >> I can't tell

Re: [CentOS] Question on nmcli CentOS 8

2020-12-11 Thread Gianluca Cecchi
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 9:20 PM Jerry Geis wrote: > I am trying to modify the current eth0 with nmcli > > I ran this: > nmcli con mod eth0 ipv4.addr 192.168.1.15/22 gw4 192.168.1.1 ipv4.dns > 192.168.1.14 > > and now nmcli shows (two ipv4) addresses. > >inet4 192.168.1.15/22 >

Re: [CentOS] question centos stream 8 applying updates

2020-12-11 Thread Gionatan Danti
Il 2020-12-11 19:26 Walter H. ha scritto: with CentOS Stream there are only updates till 2024(!) not 2029 as it be expected ... Is that officially confirmed? If RHEL 8 is expected to have an 8.10 release sometime in the 2028-2029 timeframe, and if any updates should really hit Stream-8

Re: [CentOS] The conclusio: CentOS is dead

2020-12-11 Thread Victor Pereira
Dear, I think we are all in the same position and situation and I do not think it is time to cry over spilled milk, now and without putting hands in favor of RedHat, to which I no longer believe anything, we have to move on and support the Community initiatives that are appearing and that I

Re: [CentOS] Question on nmcli CentOS 8

2020-12-11 Thread Peter Larsen
On 12/11/20 3:19 PM, Jerry Geis wrote: So now I need to "remove" both or all and add the 1 I want as static ? how do I do that? You have to remove the addresses and then add a new one. The ipv4.addresses is plural and additional when you set it. So to override you need to first remove all

[CentOS] Baffled by firewall rules with a Qemu VM, CentOS 7

2020-12-11 Thread Lists
I've understood iptables well enough for a long, long time, and although I think firewall-cmd is a poor replacement for iptables, I've always been able to "get it to work" by comparing output with iptables -L or iptables -S and using a direct-rule or two. And this time, I'm just baffled. I

Re: [CentOS] Baffled by firewall rules with a Qemu VM, CentOS 7

2020-12-11 Thread Simon Matter
> I've understood iptables well enough for a long, long time, and although I > think firewall-cmd is a poor replacement for iptables, I've always been > able to > "get it to work" by comparing output with iptables -L or iptables -S and > using > a direct-rule or two. > > And this time, I'm just

Re: [CentOS-es] CentOS rip?

2020-12-11 Thread Sergio Belkin
El vie., 11 dic. 2020 14:35, José Roberto Alas escribió: > El vie, 11 de dic. de 2020 a la(s) 11:09, Victor Pereira ( > victor.pere...@unix.cl) escribió: > > > On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 2:06 PM José Roberto Alas < > jrobertoa...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > This website is purely satirical and

Re: [CentOS-es] CentOS rip?

2020-12-11 Thread Victor Pereira
Centos.rip es un fake... de algun chistoso... pero de que es cierto lo es para que se vayan haciendo la idea de migrar a un S.O. Enterprise les paso lo que ya se esta gestando... https://blog.cloudlinux.com/announcing-open-sourced-community-driven-rhel-fork-by-cloudlinux https://monkos.org/

Re: [CentOS-es] CentOS rip?

2020-12-11 Thread Victor Pereira
Genial!!! On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 1:22 PM Ing. Ernesto Pérez Estévez, Mg. via CentOS-es wrote: > El 11/12/20 a las 11:09, Roberto Bermúdez escribió: > > Buenos días con todos amigos listeros, no he tenido ningún conocimiento > al > > respecto de esto pero no creo que sea verdad tampoco > > el

Re: [CentOS-es] CentOS rip?

2020-12-11 Thread José Roberto Alas
El vie, 11 de dic. de 2020 a la(s) 11:09, Victor Pereira ( victor.pere...@unix.cl) escribió: > On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 2:06 PM José Roberto Alas > wrote: > > > This website is purely satirical and is not representative of CentOS nor > > RedHat. > > > > Eso el dia 1 no lo tenia... xD debe ser de

[CentOS-es] CentOS rip?

2020-12-11 Thread David González Romero
Alguien sabe de esto https://centos.rip/ Saludos, David ___ CentOS-es mailing list CentOS-es@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-es

Re: [CentOS-es] CentOS rip?

2020-12-11 Thread Roberto Bermúdez
Buenos días con todos amigos listeros, no he tenido ningún conocimiento al respecto de esto pero no creo que sea verdad tampoco Saludos Roberto El vie., 11 de diciembre de 2020 11:06 a. m., David González Romero < dgrved...@gmail.com> escribió: > Alguien sabe de esto > > https://centos.rip/ > >

Re: [CentOS-es] CentOS rip?

2020-12-11 Thread Enrique Herrera Noya
solo lo que dice que van a proveer actualizaciones desde Arch ha sido un gusto , me ire a algun fork de redhat o centos El 11-12-20 a las 13:06, David González Romero escribió: > Alguien sabe de esto > > https://centos.rip/ > > Saludos, > David >

Re: [CentOS-es] CentOS rip?

2020-12-11 Thread Ing . Ernesto Pérez Estévez , Mg . via CentOS-es
El 11/12/20 a las 11:09, Roberto Bermúdez escribió: > Buenos días con todos amigos listeros, no he tenido ningún conocimiento al > respecto de esto pero no creo que sea verdad tampoco el sitio es, digamos, una broma. Pero es sobre un hecho real. En este video hablamos sobre el tema

Re: [CentOS-es] CentOS rip?

2020-12-11 Thread Victor Pereira
Es mas que cierto es cosa de ver todo lo que se esta moviendo por rescatar la "Comunidad" que se basa en RedHat COmo S.O., esto es una molestia para quienes somos usuarios muy activos de CenOS asi como administradores de Sistemas los cuales nos basamos en soluciones de reventa de productos. On

Re: [CentOS-es] CentOS rip?

2020-12-11 Thread Alex (Servtelecom) via CentOS-es
si, centos como lo conocemos esta muerto, ahora sera como un fedora  un banco de pruebas para RedHat pero el creador de CentOS ha creado un fork llamado Rocky Linux que en poco tiempo estará en producción En 11 dic. 2020 17:06, en 17:06, "David González Romero" escribió: >Alguien sabe de

Re: [CentOS-es] CentOS rip?

2020-12-11 Thread Gerardo Barajas
Jajaja por lo de centos.rip, es una pagina de burla. Ninguna liga sirve. *Gerardo Barajas Puente* On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 10:06 AM David González Romero wrote: > Alguien sabe de esto > > https://centos.rip/ > > Saludos, > David > ___ > CentOS-es

Re: [CentOS-es] CentOS rip?

2020-12-11 Thread José Roberto Alas
This website is purely satirical and is not representative of CentOS nor RedHat. El vie, 11 de dic. de 2020 a la(s) 10:06, David González Romero ( dgrved...@gmail.com) escribió: > Alguien sabe de esto > > https://centos.rip/ > > Saludos, > David > ___

Re: [CentOS-es] CentOS rip?

2020-12-11 Thread Victor Pereira
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 2:06 PM José Roberto Alas wrote: > This website is purely satirical and is not representative of CentOS nor > RedHat. > Eso el dia 1 no lo tenia... xD debe ser de alguno de la lista porque varios de RH preguntaron de que se trataba... > > El vie, 11 de dic. de 2020 a

[CentOS-docs] [centos/centos.org] branch master updated (f588419 -> 537e0b3)

2020-12-11 Thread git
This is an automated email from the git hooks/post-receive script. rbowen pushed a change to branch master in repository centos/centos.org. from f588419 Update the CentOS Linux => CentOS Stream instructions to match a needed intermediary step. add 537e0b3 Remove Ralph, now that