date:20110411

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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
Of Ed Westphal
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 2:24 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: [CentOS] 5.6 update experience - EXCELLENT!

Just updated 98 packages on this ole hardware raid 10 box - 5.6 final is
running just fine. No problems. THANKS.

Topping that; 175 packages dropped in on my test-machine at work. 8-) Feels like
I'm getting spoiled with updates like this that just work. ;*)

So far, so good. Great work CentOS-team/devs! Thanks from Uppsala/Sweden!
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.6

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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
Of Mathieu Baudier
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 5:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.6

(especially for focusing on 5.6 before 6.0)

Hear-here!
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Re: [CentOS] 5.6 update experience - EXCELLENT!

2011-04-11 Thread Michel van Deventer



Just updated 98 packages on this ole hardware raid 10 box - 5.6 final is
running just fine. No problems. THANKS.

 Topping that; 175 packages dropped in on my test-machine at work. 8-)
 Feels like
 I'm getting spoiled with updates like this that just work. ;*)

 So far, so good. Great work CentOS-team/devs! Thanks from Uppsala/Sweden!
Yesterday I updated my 10 Xen/KVM VM's at home and the three VPS'es I
have. No issues whatsoever :) !!! GREAT WORK CentOS team !

The update was worth the wait :)

   Regards,

   Michel

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Re: [CentOS] ext4 support in anaconda?

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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
Of Phil Schaffner
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 3:55 AM
To: centos@centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS] ext4 support in anaconda?

S.Tindall wrote on 04/10/2011 01:46 PM:
 Just boot the installer with the ext4 option and anaconda will be able
 to format ext4, or at least that works in 5.5.

Works just as well on 5.6.

Nice! Now to finally finalize that backup-server with ext4. 8-)

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Re: [CentOS] How to verify all dependencies are being met

2011-04-11 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic

S.Tindall wrote:
 On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 21:00 -0400, Stephen Harris wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 12:33:56AM +0200, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
 Is there an easy way to determine what rpms might be missing?  I'd hoped
 to use something like rpm -qR against each of the installed packages,
 but that output isn't simply converted to rpm package names.
 Try something like this:

 yum reinstall $(yum list installed | awk '{print $1}')
 Hmm, interesting idea.  Not too efficient, and could possibly break
 config files if the rpm isn't well formed.  But, hmm... interesting.

 This led me to yum deplist... which sounds like it might also be
 usable.  Not quite clean-cut but a definite possibility!

 
 Install yum-utils and then try:
 
  # package-cleanup --problems
 
 
From the package-cleanup manpage:
 
  --problems
 
   List dependency problems in the local RPM database.
 
 Steve
 

I will have to remember this. I never ever had any problems with 
yum/packages so I forgot all about yum-utils.

Thanks,
Ljubomir
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Re: [CentOS] Usb surf stick for internet

2011-04-11 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic

Lanny Marcus wrote:
 On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic off...@plnet.rs wrote:
 Olaf Mueller wrote:
 I am searching for an internet usb surf-stick (umts) that works under
 CentOS. Is anyone using such a stick and if so, which chip has this
 usb-stick?

 Would a Huawei E160E chip work under CentOS? Or maybe under CentOS with
 the 2.6.35 kernel from elrepo?
 Thank you very much!
 snip
 Visit this page:
 http://pyhumod.ooz.ie/
 and you will have all of your questions answered.
 
 Interesting thread and thank you for the above link. I will do some
 studying. The cell phone operators here in Colombia (GSM networks) all
 sell those things, but they natively work only on Windows and MACs.
 When our ADSL goes down, it would be nice to have one of those USB
 sticks, for HSDPA connectivity, as a backup.
 --
 Lanny

I used this here for a while. But now I have Android 2.2 mobile phone 
and it has wireless tethering (phone acts like wireless AP and redirects 
to 3G/4G/gprs network) so all I have to do is to (Set an ESSID,) turn it 
ON and connect my laptop via wireless to the phone.

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Re: [CentOS] A round of applause!

2011-04-11 Thread Mister IT Guru

On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 09:39 -0700, Chuck Munro wrote:
 Hello All,
 
 Just a short note to add my vote for a HUGE round of applause to the 
 CentOS team for their untiring efforts in getting releases out the door. 
   I've just upgraded several servers to 5.6 and it all just works.

This is one of the main reasons we love CentOS ... continue..


 
 None of the team's work is easy to accomplish, especially when 
 less-than-useful complaints keep popping up from thoughtless users who 
 don't appreciate the effort, and who waste the team's time trying to 
 respond.

I agree, and I'm partly responsible for flaming some of these threads -
Hence why after all the new releases, maybe we could have a shake up -
spare the DEVS from giving updates, and have a few other guys as points
of contact on the list *hint*

 RedHat's move to defend their support business against the 
 freeloading distro vendors (we all know who those sharks are!) wasn't 
 aimed at CentOS, but it has significantly increased the workload the 
 team faces.

What move did Redhat make? This interests me, do you have a link?


 
 Let's be patient and let them get the job done.
 
 Kudos to the CentOS team!
 
 Chuck

Thank You, and Good Luck Chuck :) hehe

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[CentOS] KVM problem after update to 5.6

2011-04-11 Thread Riccardo Veraldi

Hello, after updating to Cents 5.6 and so to kvm-83-224
my KVM virtual machines qemu qcow2 based images do not start anymore.
Looking at VM console the error message is that VM media is not bootable.
Going back to previous KVM version kvm-83-164 from Centos 5.5 they works 
again.

What's wrong with qemu images ?
anyone has an idea on how to fix the problem ?

thanks

Rick


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Re: [CentOS] Merging Install DVDs on a PXE server

2011-04-11 Thread Kai Schaetzl

why don't you simply rsync down what you need? Installing of a mounted iso 
via pxe is probably the less preferred method. rsync also gives you the 
option of excluding stuff you don't need.

Kai


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Re: [CentOS] How to verify all dependencies are being met

2011-04-11 Thread Kai Schaetzl

Try a yum update and look at the output. Now, with a new release this is a 
good option, anyway.

Kai


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Re: [CentOS] KVM problem after update to 5.6

2011-04-11 Thread Alain Péan

Le 11/04/2011 11:30, Riccardo Veraldi a écrit :
 Hello, after updating to Cents 5.6 and so to kvm-83-224
 my KVM virtual machines qemu qcow2 based images do not start anymore.
 Looking at VM console the error message is that VM media is not bootable.
 Going back to previous KVM version kvm-83-164 from Centos 5.5 they works
 again.

 What's wrong with qemu images ?
 anyone has an idea on how to fix the problem ?

 thanks

 Rick


Hi Ricardo,

There is a known bug related to qcow2 images considered as raw images in 
latest kvm. I don't find the bug in red hat and fedora, but here is what 
I found with Ubuntu.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1638708

Hope that helps

Alain

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Re: [CentOS] KVM problem after update to 5.6

2011-04-11 Thread Tom H

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:30 AM, Riccardo Veraldi
riccardo.vera...@cnaf.infn.it wrote:

 Hello, after updating to Cents 5.6 and so to kvm-83-224
 my KVM virtual machines qemu qcow2 based images do not start anymore.
 Looking at VM console the error message is that VM media is not bootable.

 What's wrong with qemu images ?

http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2011-April/109595.html
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Re: [CentOS] KVM problem after update to 5.6

2011-04-11 Thread Riccardo Veraldi

On 4/11/11 11:45 AM, Tom H wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 5:30 AM, Riccardo Veraldi
 riccardo.vera...@cnaf.infn.it  wrote:
 Hello, after updating to Cents 5.6 and so to kvm-83-224
 my KVM virtual machines qemu qcow2 based images do not start anymore.
 Looking at VM console the error message is that VM media is not bootable.

 What's wrong with qemu images ?
 http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2011-April/109595.html
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thanks

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Re: [CentOS] A round of applause!

2011-04-11 Thread Eduardo Grosclaude

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 04:37, Mister IT Guru misteritg...@gmx.com wrote:
 On Sun, 2011-04-10 at 09:39 -0700, Chuck Munro wrote:
 RedHat's move to defend their support business against the
 freeloading distro vendors (we all know who those sharks are!) wasn't
 aimed at CentOS, but it has significantly increased the workload the
 team faces.

 What move did Redhat make? This interests me, do you have a link?

I'm aware of this one in the press:
http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Controversy-surrounds-Red-Hat-s-obfuscated-source-code-release-1200554.html

 Let's be patient and let them get the job done.

 Kudos to the CentOS team!

Second!


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Re: [CentOS] 5.6 - SRPM's

2011-04-11 Thread Tom Brown

 I'm hazarding a guess here - that the os/{i386,x86_64}/CentOS/*.rpm's that
 have 'centos' in the name have had changes made for CentOS. The others
 have not and the sources are available from upstream at eg

 http://mirrors.kernel.org/redhat/redhat/linux/enterprise/5Server/en/os/SRPMS/

 Can anyone please confirm/deny that?

 Oh well, so much for that idea! According to the release notes
 (http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6) there is a list
 of packages modified by centos - and that includes httpd. So the
 absence of 'centos' in the release string does _not_ mean that the
 package is unmodified (ie it's merely re-built).

 Sigh!!! Just have to wait for the centos SRPMS then

for me i do remove the repo's during kickstart however during an
upgrade they'll come back unless they are removed from the package.

I have just rebuilt the 5.5 release package to not have them and made
the changes to make it appear as the 5.6 release package so for me all
good.

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Re: [CentOS] 5.6 - SRPM's

2011-04-11 Thread Karanbir Singh

On 04/11/2011 12:46 AM, Bob Hepple wrote:
 Oh well, so much for that idea! According to the release notes
 (http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6) there is a list
 of packages modified by centos - and that includes httpd. So the
 absence of 'centos' in the release string does _not_ mean that the
 package is unmodified (ie it's merely re-built).

you said httpd but looked at rpm :)

Also, the first batch of srpms is now on the seed machine, should start 
going public in about 8 - 12 hours ( this is [a-l]*.src.rpm ). The rest 
I'll move in first thing on Wednesday morning.

Reason why the srpms are not in the tree at release time : it saves us 
all about 4.3 TiB of data to mirrors pre-release.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOSPlus kernel (Was: Centos 6 Update?)


On 04/10/2011 05:00 AM, Akemi Yagi wrote:

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Steve Clarkscl...@netwolves.com  wrote:

On 04/07/2011 05:14 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote:
Great. Please keep us posted. If the patches work as expected, they
will be a worthy addition to the cplus kernel.
I got a kernel built with the patches using the wiki and your notes in
0004586 (thanks). I am pleased  to report
that they appear to work as advertised. With:
net.ipv6.conf.default.forwarding = 2
net.ipv6.conf.all.accept_ra = 2

Router solicitations were issued and router advertisements were accepted and
I could still forward packets.

I didn't make new patches, I simply did
%define with_fuzzy_patches 1

I have built the latest version of cplus kernel with the patches
applied. The proposed process for patch addition did work well. It is
available as  'kernel-devel-2.6.32-71.24.1.el6.centos.ayplus.1'  from:

http://centos.toracat.org/kernel/centos6/centosplus-testing/

Steve, could you please test this kernel? Looks like this is going to
be the first patch set added to the C6plus kernel.


Sure - I am downloading it now.



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Re: [CentOS] ext4 support in anaconda?

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From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf
Of Phil Schaffner
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 3:55 AM
To: centos@centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS] ext4 support in anaconda?

S.Tindall wrote on 04/10/2011 01:46 PM:
 Just boot the installer with the ext4 option and anaconda will be able
 to format ext4, or at least that works in 5.5.

Works just as well on 5.6.

Phil

Now tested at install. Worked flawlessly - the software raid partition took the
ext4 choice with breaking a stride.

6TB-ext4 on its way over here! 

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Re: [CentOS] Webalizer and GeoIP?

2011-04-11 Thread Marko Vojinovic

On Sunday 10 April 2011 17:31:15 Kai Schaetzl wrote:
 Eero Volotinen wrote on Sun, 10 Apr 2011 17:41:20 +0300:
  well, I think geoip library it not supported in rhel and this requires
  geoip library..
 
 yeah, geoip is an rpmforge package.
 Marko, you can easily compile it yourself, it's a set of only two
 binaries. No big deal deploying it non-rpm. And while you are at that and
 deducing from your name that you may want localized support: have a look
 at that as well if you compile. Webalizer supports only one language per
 binary, you have to compile it in.

Ok, compiled webalizer from source, works like a charm! :-) Thanks for help, 
folks!

Best, :-)
Marko

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[CentOS] KVM resources?

2011-04-11 Thread Jussi Hirvi

Later this week I will have to install a serious KVM setup, and I am 
looking for background material.

I found a nice how-to:

http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/KVM

...but it is probably partly outdated by now.

Then there is a fine virtualization manual:

http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/5.2/Virtualization/

...but it seems to be only for xen.

I plan to use either CentOS 5.6 or Scientific Linux 6.0 as the host 
system. Though I don't know yet, if v6.0 will bring any actual benefits 
over 5.6.

My guests will all be CentOS 4 or 5. Disk I/O will probably be a 
potential bottleneck. I am interested in the block device strategy, 
and could use more info about it.

- Jussi

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Re: [CentOS] KVM resources?

2011-04-11 Thread Torres, Giovanni (NIH/NINDS) [C]

 5.6 version of the virtualization guide from RedHat includes Xen and KVM:
http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5/html/Virtualization/index.html

-Giovanni

On Apr 11, 2011, at 9:01 AM, Jussi Hirvi wrote:

Later this week I will have to install a serious KVM setup, and I am
looking for background material.

I found a nice how-to:

http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/KVM

...but it is probably partly outdated by now.

Then there is a fine virtualization manual:

http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/5.2/Virtualization/

...but it seems to be only for xen.

I plan to use either CentOS 5.6 or Scientific Linux 6.0 as the host
system. Though I don't know yet, if v6.0 will bring any actual benefits
over 5.6.

My guests will all be CentOS 4 or 5. Disk I/O will probably be a
potential bottleneck. I am interested in the block device strategy,
and could use more info about it.

- Jussi

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Re: [CentOS] firefox slow on 5.6

Jerry Geis wrote:
 I have updated to 5.6 - GREAT job guys...

 when I do host slashdot.org for example it comes back immediately.
 when I enter slashdot.org on firefox it says Looking up slashdot.org 
 for a LONG time like 15 or 20 seconds
 before continuing.

 I have set network.dns.disableIPv6 true.

 Any idea why firefox is so slow?

 Jerry

Apparently directly editing the prefs.js was not good enough. I found 
again where about:config on the address line
gets me the settings, and sure enough ipv6 was not disabled. I disabled 
it and now its fast again.

Jerry
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[CentOS] whats the package that allows copy and paste between windows

What is the package that allows copy and paste between windows?
I think I need to yum reinstall it.
after the 5.6 update I get the copy button when I right click - (for 
example in thunderbird)
put when I then goto a console window and try to right click and paste 
the paste is grey-ed or ghosted.

Is there a package that controls the clip board or something?
Thanks
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Re: [CentOS] A round of applause!

2011-04-11 Thread Lanny Marcus

On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Chuck Munro chu...@seafoam.net wrote:
 Just a short note to add my vote for a HUGE round of applause to the
 CentOS team for their untiring efforts in getting releases out the door.
  I've just upgraded several servers to 5.6 and it all just works.

snip

+1 for the CentOS team!

I just finished upgrading an old legacy PC, from CentOS 5.5 to 5.6 (32
bit). It only has 384 MB of RAM. There were no issues. This is my
daughters box and it is dual boot, with M$ Windows XP SP3.  I have
always found it to be much more stable and responsive, when using
CentOS, than when using M$ Windows.

I used these commands, shown in the Release Notes for CentOS 5.4, to
avoid any possible issues, when upgrading:

yum clean all
yum update glibc\*
yum update yum\* rpm\* python\*
yum clean all
yum update
shutdown -r now

Before beginning to upgrade, I always backup the /boot/grub/grub.conf
file, because she likes it to boot into M$ Windows and I need to edit
that file, after upgrading the Kernel.

OT: I could see the fastest mirrors plugin doing it's work, as I did
the 3 yum update commands this morning. The Submarine Cable from
Colombia terminates in the Miami, FL, USA area and the servers
fastest mirrors selected did change, for the last yum update
command.
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Re: [CentOS] whats the package that allows copy and paste between windows

2011-04-11 Thread Nicolas Thierry-Mieg



Jerry Geis wrote:
 What is the package that allows copy and paste between windows?
 I think I need to yum reinstall it.
 after the 5.6 update I get the copy button when I right click - (for
 example in thunderbird)
 put when I then goto a console window and try to right click and paste
 the paste is grey-ed or ghosted.

 Is there a package that controls the clip board or something?
 Thanks
 Jerry

you might be looking for gpm
Description :
Gpm provides mouse support to text-based Linux applications like the
Emacs editor and the Midnight Commander file management system.  Gpm
also provides console cut-and-paste operations using the mouse and
includes a program to allow pop-up menus to appear at the click of a
mouse button.
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Re: [CentOS] 5.6 - SRPM's

2011-04-11 Thread Robert Nichols

On 04/11/2011 05:53 AM, Tom Brown wrote:
 I'm hazarding a guess here - that the os/{i386,x86_64}/CentOS/*.rpm's that
 have 'centos' in the name have had changes made for CentOS. The others
 have not and the sources are available from upstream at eg

 http://mirrors.kernel.org/redhat/redhat/linux/enterprise/5Server/en/os/SRPMS/

 Can anyone please confirm/deny that?

 Oh well, so much for that idea! According to the release notes
 (http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6) there is a list
 of packages modified by centos - and that includes httpd. So the
 absence of 'centos' in the release string does _not_ mean that the
 package is unmodified (ie it's merely re-built).

 Sigh!!! Just have to wait for the centos SRPMS then

 for me i do remove the repo's during kickstart however during an
 upgrade they'll come back unless they are removed from the package.

Instead of removing the unwanted .repo files, replace them with empty files.
That way an upgrade should just result in a .rpmnew file being created.

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Re: [CentOS] KVM resources?

2011-04-11 Thread Jussi Hirvi

On 11.4.2011 16.07, Torres, Giovanni (NIH/NINDS) [C] wrote:
   5.6 version of the virtualization guide from RedHat includes Xen and KVM:

Oh damn. I didn't notice the URL which said 5.2. Thanks.
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Re: [CentOS] whats the package that allows copy and paste between windows

2011-04-11 Thread Robert Heller

At Mon, 11 Apr 2011 09:34:06 -0400 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org 
wrote:

 
 What is the package that allows copy and paste between windows?
 I think I need to yum reinstall it.
 after the 5.6 update I get the copy button when I right click - (for 
 example in thunderbird)
 put when I then goto a console window and try to right click and paste 
 the paste is grey-ed or ghosted.
 
 Is there a package that controls the clip board or something?

No there is not.  The clip board is part of X11 itself -- if X11 is
installed (if X11 is not installed, then you can't run the graphical
user interface or any GUI applications like thunderbird or firefox)
then the copy and paste logic is installed (or at least the low-level
part of it, eg the clip board -- each application implements the higher
level part, including the right-click menus.

Not all applications talk to all other applications (for a whole pile
of reasons).  It has to do with the type of 'data' being copied and
pasted. Not all applications can copy or paste all types of data. Yes,
you can copy and paste stuff other than plain text and not all copying
and pasting is with plain text (almost all applications can copy and
paste plain text).  If you are trying to copy HTML text from
thunderbird to a console window (I think you mean a GNome terminal),
this is not going to work.  And you certainally can't copy an image
from thunderbird to a GNome terminal.  

 Thanks
 Jerry
 
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Re: [CentOS] whats the package that allows copy and paste between windows

2011-04-11 Thread Robert Heller

At Mon, 11 Apr 2011 15:46:17 +0200 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org 
wrote:

 
 
 
 Jerry Geis wrote:
  What is the package that allows copy and paste between windows?
  I think I need to yum reinstall it.
  after the 5.6 update I get the copy button when I right click - (for
  example in thunderbird)
  put when I then goto a console window and try to right click and paste
  the paste is grey-ed or ghosted.
 
  Is there a package that controls the clip board or something?
  Thanks
  Jerry
 
 you might be looking for gpm
 Description :
 Gpm provides mouse support to text-based Linux applications like the
 Emacs editor and the Midnight Commander file management system.  Gpm
 also provides console cut-and-paste operations using the mouse and
 includes a program to allow pop-up menus to appear at the click of a
 mouse button.

Also note: gpm is for console windows only and NOT for X11 and it is not
possible to copy and paste between X11 applications and the non GUI
console windows.  There isn't a 'universal' clip board.  Gpm has its
clip board and X11 has its *separate* clip board (actually, each X
server has its own independent clip board, so it you run multiple X
servers you can copy and paste from one to another).

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Re: [CentOS] 5.6 - SRPM's

2011-04-11 Thread Tom Brown

 Instead of removing the unwanted .repo files, replace them with empty files.
 That way an upgrade should just result in a .rpmnew file being created.

because by removing them from the centos-release package and
rebuilding it they are not there in the first place.
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Re: [CentOS] 5.6 is out, great my first upgrade didn't work...

2011-04-11 Thread Nicolas Ross

 On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 07:26:55PM -0500, Gilbert Sebenste wrote:
 Remember, you could have been at the limit of reboots before it does a
 automatic fsck. Been there, done that.
 ...or time, if the filesystem has a force-fsck-after-N-days feature.
 Yes, it could have, but it's been 2 hours now, and the hard drive is
 only 40 gigs ssd. Since it was a pre-prod not yet in use server, it'll
 wait till monday.

 Please post a follow-up, I'm curious what went wrong. :)

To follow-up on my own storry, I got there this morning, expecting to find 
the server stuck at fsck or somthing similar, only to find it with only the 
sord GRUB on the screen, and beeping like crazy. I didn't have any iso nor 
centos cd with me, so I'll get back there this after-noon with a portable 
cd-drive and centos cd.

To be continued... 

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.6

2011-04-11 Thread Marko Vojinovic

On Saturday 09 April 2011 14:01:34 Luigi Rosa wrote:
 Just one thing: THANK YOU ALL!!!

+3 servers! 8)

And I guess no. 4, as soon as hardware gets fixed... ;-)

Best, :-)
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Re: [CentOS] whats the package that allows copy and paste between windows

2011-04-11 Thread Nicolas Thierry-Mieg

Robert Heller wrote:
 At Mon, 11 Apr 2011 15:46:17 +0200 CentOS mailing listcentos@centos.org  
 wrote:

 Jerry Geis wrote:
 What is the package that allows copy and paste between windows?
 I think I need to yum reinstall it.
 after the 5.6 update I get the copy button when I right click - (for
 example in thunderbird)
 put when I then goto a console window and try to right click and paste
 the paste is grey-ed or ghosted.

 Is there a package that controls the clip board or something?
 Thanks
 Jerry

 you might be looking for gpm
 Description :
 Gpm provides mouse support to text-based Linux applications like the
 Emacs editor and the Midnight Commander file management system.  Gpm
 also provides console cut-and-paste operations using the mouse and
 includes a program to allow pop-up menus to appear at the click of a
 mouse button.

 Also note: gpm is for console windows only and NOT for X11 and it is not
 possible to copy and paste between X11 applications and the non GUI
 console windows.  There isn't a 'universal' clip board.  Gpm has its
 clip board and X11 has its *separate* clip board (actually, each X
 server has its own independent clip board, so it you run multiple X
 servers you can copy and paste from one to another).

oops! you're right Robert, I read the OP's somewhat confused post too 
fast and thought he actually meant console window when he said console 
window, but you're most probably correct, he just wants X11/GUI cut-n-paste.
OP: gpm is probably not what you're looking for :-) .
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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.6

2011-04-11 Thread m . roth

Luigi Rosa wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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 Just one thing: THANK YOU ALL!!!

#insert EU_anthem

(In addition to the update, NO MORE WHEN WILL 5.6 COME OUT?!?!?!?!?!!!
threads!)

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Re: [CentOS] 5.6 is out, great my first upgrade didn't work...

2011-04-11 Thread Digimer

On 04/11/2011 10:17 AM, Nicolas Ross wrote:
 On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 07:26:55PM -0500, Gilbert Sebenste wrote:
 Remember, you could have been at the limit of reboots before it does a
 automatic fsck. Been there, done that.
 ...or time, if the filesystem has a force-fsck-after-N-days feature.
 Yes, it could have, but it's been 2 hours now, and the hard drive is
 only 40 gigs ssd. Since it was a pre-prod not yet in use server, it'll
 wait till monday.

 Please post a follow-up, I'm curious what went wrong. :)
 
 To follow-up on my own storry, I got there this morning, expecting to
 find the server stuck at fsck or somthing similar, only to find it with
 only the sord GRUB on the screen, and beeping like crazy. I didn't
 have any iso nor centos cd with me, so I'll get back there this
 after-noon with a portable cd-drive and centos cd.
 
 To be continued...

Ouch, that hurts. Do please follow up. :)

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Re: [CentOS] whats the package that allows copy and paste between windows

2011-04-11 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic

Jerry Geis wrote:
 What is the package that allows copy and paste between windows?
 I think I need to yum reinstall it.
 after the 5.6 update I get the copy button when I right click - (for 
 example in thunderbird)
 put when I then goto a console window and try to right click and paste 
 the paste is grey-ed or ghosted.
 
 Is there a package that controls the clip board or something?
 Thanks
 Jerry
 

Try using Gedit as an intermediary for your copy-paste action. Copy in 
thunderbird, past in gedit, select and copy in gedit, paste in your 
application.

To insert/paste data from clipboard into a console/terminal, use 
Shift+Ins.


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.6

centos-boun...@centos.org wrote:
 Luigi Rosa wrote:
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 Just one thing: THANK YOU ALL!!!
 
 #insert EU_anthem
 
 (In addition to the update, NO MORE WHEN WILL 5.6 COME
 OUT?!?!?!?!?!!! threads!)

So when will 6.0 be out?

(sorry; yes I am OCD-enabled; no obviously I have no SMARTctl)


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.6

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(In addition to the update, NO MORE WHEN WILL 5.6 COME OUT?!?!?!?!?!!!
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Nah, now WHEN WILL 6.0 COME OUT?!?!?!?!?!!! commence instead... rolling eyes
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[CentOS] ext4 not on a bootable partition

Just tried running a configuration on 5.6 with ext4 as the / 
partitition. I got the error
that cannot boot ext4 partition. bummer I know this is just a boot 
issue and make the ext3 but I was disappointed.

Maybe 6.0 will have ext4 bootable.

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Re: [CentOS] ext4 not on a bootable partition

2011-04-11 Thread Ryan Wagoner

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Jerry Geis ge...@pagestation.com wrote:
 Just tried running a configuration on 5.6 with ext4 as the /
 partitition. I got the error
 that cannot boot ext4 partition. bummer I know this is just a boot
 issue and make the ext3 but I was disappointed.

 Maybe 6.0 will have ext4 bootable.

Did you have a separate /boot partition that was ext3? I'm fairly sure
grub doesn't support ext4 in CentOS 5. With /boot separate you should
be able to make / ext4.

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Re: [CentOS] whats the package that allows copy and paste between windows

Jerry Geis wrote:
 What is the package that allows copy and paste between windows?
 I think I need to yum reinstall it.
 after the 5.6 update I get the copy button when I right click - (for 
 example in thunderbird)
 put when I then goto a console window and try to right click and paste 
 the paste is grey-ed or ghosted.

 Is there a package that controls the clip board or something?
 Thanks
 Jerry


Sorry if wasnt explicit.  Take an even simpler case
I can highlight some text in firefox and right click and copy,
I then cannot paste that text into an email with thunderbird.
I get the menu item actually to paste but when I select it nothing 
populates.
I am certain I have done this in the past.

Lets leave the gnome-terminal out of the picture.

So I was wondering the if there is a particular package I could try 
reinstalling.
But it sounds like its built into X so I doubt it.
Anything else to try before doing a fresh install?

Thanks so much,

Jerry
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Re: [CentOS] whats the package that allows copy and paste between windows

2011-04-11 Thread Nicolas Thierry-Mieg

Jerry Geis wrote:
 Jerry Geis wrote:
 What is the package that allows copy and paste between windows?
 I think I need to yum reinstall it.
 after the 5.6 update I get the copy button when I right click - (for
 example in thunderbird)
 put when I then goto a console window and try to right click and paste
 the paste is grey-ed or ghosted.

 Is there a package that controls the clip board or something?
 Thanks
 Jerry


 Sorry if wasnt explicit.  Take an even simpler case
 I can highlight some text in firefox and right click and copy,
 I then cannot paste that text into an email with thunderbird.
 I get the menu item actually to paste but when I select it nothing
 populates.
 I am certain I have done this in the past.

ok, clear. Yes that *should* work.

 Lets leave the gnome-terminal out of the picture.

 So I was wondering the if there is a particular package I could try
 reinstalling.
 But it sounds like its built into X so I doubt it.
 Anything else to try before doing a fresh install?

does it work if you log in as another user?
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Re: [CentOS] 5.6 - SRPM's

2011-04-11 Thread Kai Schaetzl

Tom Brown wrote on Mon, 11 Apr 2011 15:08:48 +0100:

 because by removing them from the centos-release package and
 rebuilding it they are not there in the first place.

Yeah, but you have to do that all the time (e.g. with each update). 
Replacing with empty files is a one-time operation.

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Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

centos-boun...@centos.org wrote:

 The main support *I* need is timely updates and releases.

This is the key indicator that says you want RHEL not CentOS.


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Re: [CentOS] ext4 not on a bootable partition

centos-boun...@centos.org wrote:
 Just tried running a configuration on 5.6 with ext4 as the /
 partitition. I got the error that cannot boot ext4 partition.
 bummer I know this is just a boot issue and make the ext3 but I
 was disappointed. 
 
 Maybe 6.0 will have ext4 bootable.

I installed new (no upgrade) SL6.0, and ext4 was an available selection
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Re: [CentOS] whats the package that allows copy and paste between windows

2011-04-11 Thread compdoc

 What is the package that allows copy and paste
between windows?

How do you connect to centos? VNC?

If you're running vnc4server on the centos box, there's a program you have
to leave running named vncconfig that allows clipboard xfer...




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Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On 4/11/2011 10:55 AM, Brunner, Brian T. wrote:
 centos-boun...@centos.org wrote:

 The main support *I* need is timely updates and releases.

 This is the key indicator that says you want RHEL not CentOS.

That's only true if you think the CentOS team is incapable of matching 
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Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-11 Thread Karanbir Singh

On 04/10/2011 07:15 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
 You just gave me examples of more person Foo dropping by Bar... I'm
 not sure how that can shorten the gap between upstream and CentOS
 releases. It seems more in the way of giving user support.

No, re-read what I said. Ownership in the distro is quite a different 
ballgame from userend support.

 The main support *I* need is timely updates and releases.

The aim is to solve problems on a much larger scale, like the entire 
userbase. One of the key areas is this - and its a shared thing, but it 
an issue that needs to be solved by doing the right thing and not just 
something random.

 It's obvious there is a man-power issue. It is obvious to me you're in
 denial :)


you are wrong on both counts, and unless you are ready to get your 
thinking hat on and use it, its going to be quite hard to figure things out.

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Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-11 Thread John R Pierce

On 04/11/11 9:14 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:
   The main support*I*  need is timely updates and releases.
 
   This is the key indicator that says you want RHEL not CentOS.
 That's only true if you think the CentOS team is incapable of matching
 some definition of 'timely'.

well, whatever your definition, you can't deny that RHEL will be 'more' 
timely than any downstream rebuild.


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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.6

2011-04-11 Thread m . roth

Brunner, Brian T. wrote:
 centos-boun...@centos.org wrote:
 Luigi Rosa wrote:

 Just one thing: THANK YOU ALL!!!

 #insert EU_anthem

 (In addition to the update, NO MORE WHEN WILL 5.6 COME
 OUT?!?!?!?!?!!! threads!)

 So when will 6.0 be out?

 (sorry; yes I am OCD-enabled; no obviously I have no SMARTctl)

smartctl -t long /dev/brianbrunner

There, that should keep him quiet until 6 is ready g

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Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

centos-boun...@centos.org wrote:
 On 4/11/2011 10:55 AM, Brunner, Brian T. wrote:
 centos-boun...@centos.org wrote:
 
 The main support *I* need is timely updates and releases.
 
 This is the key indicator that says you want RHEL not CentOS.
 
 That's only true if you think the CentOS team is incapable of matching
 some definition of 'timely'.

Proved to be so, with great pain for some.

To take a relativistic approach, entities (people or corporations) who
are uncomfortable with CentOS's notion of timely will be less so with
RH's notion of timely, since RHEL defines the product for which we're
waiting. RH is the Time(0) of the process.

Speed costs money, time costs money and/or patience. 

You must either shell out the money for RHEL, or you must shell out time
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Re: [CentOS] CentOSPlus kernel (Was: Centos 6 Update?)


On 04/11/2011 07:25 AM, Steve Clark wrote:

On 04/10/2011 05:00 AM, Akemi Yagi wrote:

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Steve Clarkscl...@netwolves.com  wrote:

On 04/07/2011 05:14 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote:
Great. Please keep us posted. If the patches work as expected, they
will be a worthy addition to the cplus kernel.
I got a kernel built with the patches using the wiki and your notes in
0004586 (thanks). I am pleased  to report
that they appear to work as advertised. With:
net.ipv6.conf.default.forwarding = 2
net.ipv6.conf.all.accept_ra = 2

Router solicitations were issued and router advertisements were accepted and
I could still forward packets.

I didn't make new patches, I simply did
%define with_fuzzy_patches 1

I have built the latest version of cplus kernel with the patches
applied. The proposed process for patch addition did work well. It is
available as  'kernel-devel-2.6.32-71.24.1.el6.centos.ayplus.1'  from:

http://centos.toracat.org/kernel/centos6/centosplus-testing/

Steve, could you please test this kernel? Looks like this is going to
be the first patch set added to the C6plus kernel.


Sure - I am downloading it now.



Oops - I am using i386 not x86_64 and it appears you only have re-compiled the 
x86_64 kernels. At least
that is what I am assuming looking at the dates and the fact the i386 kernel 
did not work in regards to the new
behavior with router solicitations and router advertisements.


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Re: [CentOS] CentOSPlus kernel (Was: Centos 6 Update?)

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Steve Clark scl...@netwolves.com wrote:
 On 04/11/2011 07:25 AM, Steve Clark wrote:

 On 04/10/2011 05:00 AM, Akemi Yagi wrote:

 I got a kernel built with the patches using the wiki and your notes in
 0004586 (thanks). I am pleased  to report
 that they appear to work as advertised. With:
 net.ipv6.conf.default.forwarding = 2
 net.ipv6.conf.all.accept_ra = 2

 Router solicitations were issued and router advertisements were accepted and
 I could still forward packets.

 I have built the latest version of cplus kernel with the patches
 applied. The proposed process for patch addition did work well. It is
 available as  'kernel-devel-2.6.32-71.24.1.el6.centos.ayplus.1'  from:

 http://centos.toracat.org/kernel/centos6/centosplus-testing/

 Steve, could you please test this kernel? Looks like this is going to
 be the first patch set added to the C6plus kernel.

 Sure - I am downloading it now.

 Oops - I am using i386 not x86_64 and it appears you only have re-compiled
 the x86_64 kernels. At least
 that is what I am assuming looking at the dates and the fact the i386 kernel
 did not work in regards to the new
 behavior with router solicitations and router advertisements.

Thank you for the testing.

Odd. I did build both arches. x86_64 was re-rebuilt after the i386
version, which is why it has a newer date.

I will go back to the drawing board and make sure the patches are in place.

If I may ask one more thing ... I think we should continue the current
effort in the bug tracker rather than here on this list. Would you
mind filing a new request at http://bugs.centos.org under the
CentOS-6-Plus category ?

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Re: [CentOS] CentOSPlus kernel (Was: Centos 6 Update?)

On 04/11/2011 01:08 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote:

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Steve Clarkscl...@netwolves.com wrote:

On 04/11/2011 07:25 AM, Steve Clark wrote:

On 04/10/2011 05:00 AM, Akemi Yagi wrote:
I got a kernel built with the patches using the wiki and your notes in
0004586 (thanks). I am pleased to report
that they appear to work as advertised. With:
net.ipv6.conf.default.forwarding = 2
net.ipv6.conf.all.accept_ra = 2

Router solicitations were issued and router advertisements were accepted and
I could still forward packets.
I have built the latest version of cplus kernel with the patches
applied. The proposed process for patch addition did work well. It is
available as 'kernel-devel-2.6.32-71.24.1.el6.centos.ayplus.1' from:

http://centos.toracat.org/kernel/centos6/centosplus-testing/

Steve, could you please test this kernel? Looks like this is going to
be the first patch set added to the C6plus kernel.

Sure - I am downloading it now.
Oops - I am using i386 not x86_64 and it appears you only have re-compiled
the x86_64 kernels. At least
that is what I am assuming looking at the dates and the fact the i386 kernel
did not work in regards to the new
behavior with router solicitations and router advertisements.

Thank you for the testing.

Odd. I did build both arches. x86_64 was re-rebuilt after the i386
version, which is why it has a newer date.

I will go back to the drawing board and make sure the patches are in place.

If I may ask one more thing ... I think we should continue the current
effort in the bug tracker rather than here on this list. Would you
mind filing a new request at http://bugs.centos.org under the
CentOS-6-Plus category ?

Hmm... without looking at the dates of the files I had downloaded the

kernel-2.6.32-71.18.2.el6.centos.ayplus.i686.rpm
http://centos.toracat.org/kernel/centos6/centosplus-testing/i386/kernel-2.6.32-71.18.2.el6.centos.ayplus.i686.rpm
09-Mar-2011 11:36

files let me try the

kernel-2.6.32-71.24.1.el6.centos.ayplus.1.i686.rpm
http://centos.toracat.org/kernel/centos6/centosplus-testing/i386/kernel-2.6.32-71.24.1.el6.centos.ayplus.1.i686.rpm
08-Apr-2011 19:06 21M

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Re: [CentOS] CentOSPlus kernel (Was: Centos 6 Update?)

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Steve Clark scl...@netwolves.com wrote:

 Hmm... without looking at the dates of the files I had downloaded the

  kernel-2.6.32-71.18.2.el6.centos.ayplus.i686.rpm 09-Mar-2011
 11:36

 files let me try the

  kernel-2.6.32-71.24.1.el6.centos.ayplus.1.i686.rpm   08-Apr-2011
 19:06   21M

Yes, that ( 2.6.32-71.24.1.el6.centos.ayplus.1 ) is the right one. :)

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Re: [CentOS] CentOSPlus kernel (Was: Centos 6 Update?)


On 04/11/2011 01:19 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote:

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:15 AM, Steve Clarkscl...@netwolves.com  wrote:


Hmm... without looking at the dates of the files I had downloaded the

  kernel-2.6.32-71.18.2.el6.centos.ayplus.i686.rpm 09-Mar-2011
11:36

files let me try the

  kernel-2.6.32-71.24.1.el6.centos.ayplus.1.i686.rpm   08-Apr-2011
19:06   21M

Yes, that ( 2.6.32-71.24.1.el6.centos.ayplus.1 ) is the right one. :)

Akemi


HOORAY - it works.

I got an ipv6 address:
$ ip6 a s eth2
4: eth2: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qlen 1000
inet6 2001:db8:1:0:202:b6ff:fe36:e91a/64 scope global dynamic
   valid_lft 86361sec preferred_lft 14361sec
inet6 fe80::202:b6ff:fe36:e91a/64 scope link
   valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever

and a default route:
default via fe80::219:fff:fe06:9882 dev eth2  proto kernel  metric 1024  
expires 0sec mtu 1500 advmss 1440 hoplimit 64





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Re: [CentOS] CentOSPlus kernel (Was: Centos 6 Update?)

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Steve Clark scl...@netwolves.com wrote:
 On 04/11/2011 01:19 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote:

 Yes, that ( 2.6.32-71.24.1.el6.centos.ayplus.1 ) is the right one. :)

 Akemi

 HOORAY - it works.

 I got an ipv6 address:
 $ ip6 a s eth2
 4: eth2: BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP mtu 1500 qlen 1000
     inet6 2001:db8:1:0:202:b6ff:fe36:e91a/64 scope global dynamic
    valid_lft 86361sec preferred_lft 14361sec
     inet6 fe80::202:b6ff:fe36:e91a/64 scope link
    valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever

 and a default route:
 default via fe80::219:fff:fe06:9882 dev eth2  proto kernel  metric 1024
 expires 0sec mtu 1500 advmss 1440 hoplimit 64

Excellent news !

By the way, has this been accepted in the mainline kernel?

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Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, Brunner, Brian T. wrote:

 centos-boun...@centos.org wrote:
 On 4/11/2011 10:55 AM, Brunner, Brian T. wrote:
 centos-boun...@centos.org wrote:

 The main support *I* need is timely updates and releases.

 This is the key indicator that says you want RHEL not CentOS.

 That's only true if you think the CentOS team is incapable of matching
 some definition of 'timely'.

 Proved to be so, with great pain for some.

 To take a relativistic approach, entities (people or corporations) who
 are uncomfortable with CentOS's notion of timely will be less so with
 RH's notion of timely, since RHEL defines the product for which we're
 waiting. RH is the Time(0) of the process.

 Speed costs money, time costs money and/or patience.

 You must either shell out the money for RHEL, or you must shell out time
 for CentOS.

Considering you follow the it's released when it's ready mantra, what 
are you comfortable with ? A one month delay between upstream and CentOS ? 
Two months ? Three months (CentOS 5.6) ? Four months ? Five months ? Six 
months (CentOS 6.0) ? When it's ready ?

Regarding CentOS 5.6, all users using it should not have a problem if the 
security updates are 3 months behind ? Maybe in 12 months Karanbir has a 
kid, Johnny disappears again. Would four months be acceptable ? Maybe five 
months ?

No no, it's released when it's ready. Even if it takes 6 months and the 
next release is out before CentOS is ready ? 3 months is halfway through 
the release, so you're vulnerable to security problems 50% of the time.

If you graph the releases since 2005, you can see it's becoming longer and 
longer. It never took 3 months before. A new base release never took 5 
months.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CentOS

I have been ringing the alarm-bell 2 years ago (CentOS 4.8) and nothing 
has changed. But hey, don't let me spoil your dinner, there is no problem. 
It's free, so questioning things is out of order.

 http://dag.wieers.com/blog/centos-48-finally-there

The comments I got both came from the CentOS team, so you know where you 
stand if you provide a critical voice. I no longer expect any change.

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Re: [CentOS] whats the package that allows copy and paste between windows

2011-04-11 Thread Robert Heller

At Mon, 11 Apr 2011 17:27:54 +0200 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org 
wrote:

 
 Jerry Geis wrote:
  Jerry Geis wrote:
  What is the package that allows copy and paste between windows?
  I think I need to yum reinstall it.
  after the 5.6 update I get the copy button when I right click - (for
  example in thunderbird)
  put when I then goto a console window and try to right click and paste
  the paste is grey-ed or ghosted.
 
  Is there a package that controls the clip board or something?
  Thanks
  Jerry
 
 
  Sorry if wasnt explicit.  Take an even simpler case
  I can highlight some text in firefox and right click and copy,
  I then cannot paste that text into an email with thunderbird.
  I get the menu item actually to paste but when I select it nothing
  populates.
  I am certain I have done this in the past.
 
 ok, clear. Yes that *should* work.
 
  Lets leave the gnome-terminal out of the picture.
 
  So I was wondering the if there is a particular package I could try
  reinstalling.
  But it sounds like its built into X so I doubt it.
  Anything else to try before doing a fresh install?
 
 does it work if you log in as another user?

So long as it is the same X Server.  If you log into a different console
and then do a 'startx -- :1' (or :2, :3, etc.), then no it won't work. 
If you just do a su or sudo su in a [gnome] terminal, then yes, it will
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Re: [CentOS] CentOSPlus kernel (Was: Centos 6 Update?)


On 04/11/2011 01:51 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote:

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Steve Clarkscl...@netwolves.com  wrote:

On 04/11/2011 01:19 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote:
Yes, that ( 2.6.32-71.24.1.el6.centos.ayplus.1 ) is the right one. :)

Akemi

HOORAY - it works.

I got an ipv6 address:
$ ip6 a s eth2
4: eth2:BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP  mtu 1500 qlen 1000
 inet6 2001:db8:1:0:202:b6ff:fe36:e91a/64 scope global dynamic
valid_lft 86361sec preferred_lft 14361sec
 inet6 fe80::202:b6ff:fe36:e91a/64 scope link
valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever

and a default route:
default via fe80::219:fff:fe06:9882 dev eth2  proto kernel  metric 1024
expires 0sec mtu 1500 advmss 1440 hoplimit 64

Excellent news !

By the way, has this been accepted in the mainline kernel?


The patches are in 2.6.38.2 just downloaded from kernel.org.


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Re: [CentOS] whats the package that allows copy and paste between windows

On 4/11/2011 1:22 PM, Robert Heller wrote:

 does it work if you log in as another user?

 So long as it is the same X Server.  If you log into a different console
 and then do a 'startx -- :1' (or :2, :3, etc.), then no it won't work.
 If you just do a su or sudo su in a [gnome] terminal, then yes, it will
 work.

You should even be able to 'ssh -Y user@hostname program' from a 
terminal window to start a GUI program remotely and have copy/paste work 
as long as the windows on on the same display.

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Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 08:19:22PM +0200, Dag Wieers wrote:
 
 Considering you follow the it's released when it's ready mantra, what 
[ ... ]
 I no longer expect any change.

Then why are you always coming back here to voice your concerns
if you don't expect any change?

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[CentOS] updates to package

2011-04-11 Thread Bernard Fay

Hi,

I'ld like to know where or how I can find changes in a package update.
Also, is there a way to find out which package updates are security updates?

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Re: [CentOS] updates to package

2011-04-11 Thread Christopher J. Buckley

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 19:54, Bernard Fay bernard@enodegroup.com wrote:
 Hi,

 I'ld like to know where or how I can find changes in a package update.

http://linux.die.net/man/1/yum-changelog
rpm -qa --changelog foo.bar.rpm

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Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-11 Thread Brian Mathis

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Tru Huynh t...@centos.org wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 08:19:22PM +0200, Dag Wieers wrote:

 Considering you follow the it's released when it's ready mantra, what
 [ ... ]
 I no longer expect any change.

 Then why are you always coming back here to voice your concerns
 if you don't expect any change?

 Tru


I for one am glad about it as it is obvious that it needs to be
addressed.  The constant retorts against anyone asking is just
unbelievable.  Maybe if the questions can be read as:

I know you release when ready, so how can I help it be ready faster?

It really is an achievement to have alienated such a luminary as Dag,
especially when KB specifically mentions that the project only wants
to deal with such luminaries in the FLOSS interview.


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Re: [CentOS] updates to package

2011-04-11 Thread Bernard Fay

Great! Thanks a lot!


On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Christopher J. Buckley ch...@cjbuckley.net
 wrote:

 On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 19:54, Bernard Fay bernard@enodegroup.com
 wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I'ld like to know where or how I can find changes in a package update.

 http://linux.die.net/man/1/yum-changelog
 rpm -qa --changelog foo.bar.rpm

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Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, Tru Huynh wrote:

 On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 08:19:22PM +0200, Dag Wieers wrote:

 Considering you follow the it's released when it's ready mantra, what
 [ ... ]
 I no longer expect any change.

 Then why are you always coming back here to voice your concerns
 if you don't expect any change?

Convince me otherwise. These concerns are not just my concerns, I have had 
companies calling me for more information or advice because these 
questions go unanswered.

But few people dare to raise their voice on this list.

There have been interviews by CentOS developers on popular websites in the 
past promising improvements to how the project is organized, but releases 
take longer and development/QA stays closed. Why is that ?

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Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-11 Thread Digimer

On 04/11/2011 03:10 PM, Dag Wieers wrote:
 On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, Tru Huynh wrote:
 
 On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 08:19:22PM +0200, Dag Wieers wrote:

 Considering you follow the it's released when it's ready mantra, what
 [ ... ]
 I no longer expect any change.

 Then why are you always coming back here to voice your concerns
 if you don't expect any change?
 
 Convince me otherwise. These concerns are not just my concerns, I have had 
 companies calling me for more information or advice because these 
 questions go unanswered.
 
 But few people dare to raise their voice on this list.
 
 There have been interviews by CentOS developers on popular websites in the 
 past promising improvements to how the project is organized, but releases 
 take longer and development/QA stays closed. Why is that ?

/putting on asbestos pants.

each release is more complex than the last. The web of dependency grows,
so the reverse-engineering takes longer and longer.

Perhaps the tact to take is to apply pressure to the upstream provider
to release the build details? I am sure that many folks who start with
CentOS, grow to be large and move to RH proper. So there is, I would
venture, an argument to be made that RH providing this info to CentOS
and helping CentOS thrive would be beneficial for their business.

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Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

centos-boun...@centos.org wrote:
 /putting on asbestos pants.

Not needed... And they itch.

 Perhaps the tack to take is to apply pressure to the upstream provider
 to release the build details? I am sure that many folks who start with
 CentOS, grow to be large and move to RH proper. So there is, I would
 venture, an argument to be made that RH providing this info to CentOS
 and helping CentOS thrive would be beneficial for their business.

I should think to agree; if the CentOS folks are under a non-disclosure
to any entity selling support other than RH, I don't see how this is
anything but in RH's best interests.


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Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, Digimer wrote:

 On 04/11/2011 03:10 PM, Dag Wieers wrote:
 On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, Tru Huynh wrote:

 On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 08:19:22PM +0200, Dag Wieers wrote:

 Considering you follow the it's released when it's ready mantra, what
 [ ... ]
 I no longer expect any change.

 Then why are you always coming back here to voice your concerns
 if you don't expect any change?

 Convince me otherwise. These concerns are not just my concerns, I have had
 companies calling me for more information or advice because these
 questions go unanswered.

 But few people dare to raise their voice on this list.

 There have been interviews by CentOS developers on popular websites in the
 past promising improvements to how the project is organized, but releases
 take longer and development/QA stays closed. Why is that ?

 /putting on asbestos pants.

 each release is more complex than the last. The web of dependency grows,
 so the reverse-engineering takes longer and longer.

Not true for eg. CentOS 4.8 and CentOS 5.6, the complexity of those two or 
no more different than CentOS 4.7 or CentOS 5.5. Besides that, if you open 
up the QA and problems, there are more people that can jump in and help 
fix one issue.

I have compared it to the development of the Linux kernel, either you try 
to do everything by 3 people, or you open it up and let the community 
provide you with issues and provide pull requests. So that those 3 people 
simply have to merge those pull requests. It's a lot less work by the 
core, and it scales better because all those people waiting for the new 
release to be ready can actively participate and _make_ that release 
faster.

I would basicly make the whole discussion void, because anyone complaining 
could actively help the release go forward. Now we both know exactly what 
the issue was, we can guess or have to accept vague information.


 Perhaps the tact to take is to apply pressure to the upstream provider
 to release the build details? I am sure that many folks who start with
 CentOS, grow to be large and move to RH proper. So there is, I would
 venture, an argument to be made that RH providing this info to CentOS
 and helping CentOS thrive would be beneficial for their business.

Well, that could be useful too, but why sit and wait for something you 
cannot control to happen. Or take a decision that the project can 
implement today.

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Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 03:03:05PM -0400, Brian Mathis wrote:
 
 I for one am glad about it as it is obvious that it needs to be
 addressed. 
we all agree that it can be done better/faster/...

 The constant retorts against anyone asking is just
 unbelievable.  Maybe if the questions can be read as:
 
 I know you release when ready, so how can I help it be ready faster?

1) what about stop breathing over my neck?

I would not like a helping hand stabbing me everyday to
remind me that things could be better, but ymmv.

2) 4.9 is out, 5.6 is nearly released (SRPMS still being pushed),
work on 6 will resume...

3) Releasing is one goal, keep thing running is another.

C4 csgfs needs testing, who is helping?
http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=4754

4) back to your genuine inquiry how can I help it be ready faster?

Make your own experiment (i.e rebuild your own clone) and document/report back
what you find out as the proper order of rebuild of the upstream SRPMS ?

[... anything usefull for your CentOS community ...]

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.6

2011-04-11 Thread Ryan Ordway

On Apr 9, 2011, at 8:22 AM, Mathieu Baudier wrote:

 Just one thing: THANK YOU ALL!!!
 
 Thanks a lot!
 (especially for focusing on 5.6 before 6.0)

+1

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Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On 4/11/2011 2:33 PM, Tru Huynh wrote:

 Make your own experiment (i.e rebuild your own clone) and document/report back
 what you find out as the proper order of rebuild of the upstream SRPMS ?

So having everyone repeat the same mistakes with no coordination is your 
idea of doing things faster?  I guess parallel computing really is a 
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Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, Tru Huynh wrote:

 4) back to your genuine inquiry how can I help it be ready faster?

 Make your own experiment (i.e rebuild your own clone) and document/report back
 what you find out as the proper order of rebuild of the upstream SRPMS ?

 [... anything usefull for your CentOS community ...]

Yes, let's all do the same thing, and stumble over the same problems, 
while they may already have fixed in the closed QA builds.

Sounds like one crazy plan !

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Re: [CentOS] ext4 not on a bootable partition

2011-04-11 Thread Robert Nichols

On 04/11/2011 11:04 AM, Brunner, Brian T. wrote:
 centos-boun...@centos.org wrote:
 Just tried running a configuration on 5.6 with ext4 as the /
 partitition. I got the error that cannot boot ext4 partition.
 bummer I know this is just a boot issue and make the ext3 but I
 was disappointed.

 Maybe 6.0 will have ext4 bootable.

 I installed new (no upgrade) SL6.0, and ext4 was an available selection
 for all partitions except swap and my existing ntfs drive.

Yes, GRUB has understood ext4 since grub-0.97-52 (June, 2009).  The
version 0.97-13.5 in CentOS 5.6 doesn't include that.

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Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 09:48:18PM +0200, Dag Wieers wrote:
 On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, Tru Huynh wrote:
 
  4) back to your genuine inquiry how can I help it be ready faster?
 
  Make your own experiment (i.e rebuild your own clone) and document/report 
  back
  what you find out as the proper order of rebuild of the upstream SRPMS ?
 
  [... anything usefull for your CentOS community ...]
 
 Yes, let's all do the same thing, and stumble over the same problems, 
 while they may already have fixed in the closed QA builds.
 
 Sounds like one crazy plan !

right: you are locked inside a maze, there is one exit somewhere.
Everyone start from the same place, eveyone benefit from the 
person who find the exit. We don't have the solution at the moment,
You get the QA builds once we find the exit. If you finish before us
let us know how you did it.

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Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 02:44:03PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
 On 4/11/2011 2:33 PM, Tru Huynh wrote:
 
  Make your own experiment (i.e rebuild your own clone) and document/report 
  back
  what you find out as the proper order of rebuild of the upstream SRPMS ?
 
 So having everyone repeat the same mistakes with no coordination is your 
 idea of doing things faster? 
who is everyone?
 I guess parallel computing really is a hard problem.
I guess so.

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On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, Tru Huynh wrote:

 On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 09:48:18PM +0200, Dag Wieers wrote:
 On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, Tru Huynh wrote:

 4) back to your genuine inquiry how can I help it be ready faster?

 Make your own experiment (i.e rebuild your own clone) and document/report 
 back
 what you find out as the proper order of rebuild of the upstream SRPMS ?

 [... anything usefull for your CentOS community ...]

 Yes, let's all do the same thing, and stumble over the same problems,
 while they may already have fixed in the closed QA builds.

 Sounds like one crazy plan !

 right: you are locked inside a maze, there is one exit somewhere.
 Everyone start from the same place, eveyone benefit from the
 person who find the exit. We don't have the solution at the moment,
 You get the QA builds once we find the exit. If you finish before us
 let us know how you did it.

No, you have 2500 mazes, and you have to finish each of them before you 
can start the next one. In the meantime, other people (including the 
CentOS people) are getting lost in that same (but copied) maze, so you 
cannot help each other find the exit, until you do.

Let's waste time together fixing something that someone may already have 
fixed, who wouldn't be excited about that !

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Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:00:57PM +0200, Dag Wieers wrote:
 On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, Tru Huynh wrote:
 
  right: you are locked inside a maze, there is one exit somewhere.
  Everyone start from the same place, eveyone benefit from the
  person who find the exit. We don't have the solution at the moment,
  You get the QA builds once we find the exit. If you finish before us
  let us know how you did it.
 
 No, you have 2500 mazes, and you have to finish each of them before you 
 can start the next one. In the meantime, other people (including the 
 CentOS people) are getting lost in that same (but copied) maze, so you 
 cannot help each other find the exit, until you do.

My maze is the build order (ie dependancy order of the SRPMS),
What are yours? how do you get to that number of mazes? 

Feel free to coordinate, we will all profit from your coordination skills.
 
 Let's waste time together fixing something that someone may already have 
 fixed, who wouldn't be excited about that !

Is this kind of useless discussion better?

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Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-11 Thread Rudi Ahlers

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:13 PM, Tru Huynh t...@centos.org wrote:

 [free troll feeding is over for me]
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Re: [CentOS] CentOSPlus kernel (Was: Centos 6 Update?)

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Steve Clark scl...@netwolves.com wrote:
 On 04/11/2011 01:51 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote:

 By the way, has this been accepted in the mainline kernel?

 The patches are in 2.6.38.2 just downloaded from kernel.org.

Indeed. Just found it here:

http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-2.6.37.y.git;a=commitdiff;h=65e9b62d4503849b10bedfc29bff0473760cc597;hp=bc8acf2c8c3e43fcc192762a9f964b3e9a17748b

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Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, Tru Huynh wrote:

 On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:00:57PM +0200, Dag Wieers wrote:
 On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, Tru Huynh wrote:

 right: you are locked inside a maze, there is one exit somewhere.
 Everyone start from the same place, eveyone benefit from the
 person who find the exit. We don't have the solution at the moment,
 You get the QA builds once we find the exit. If you finish before us
 let us know how you did it.

 No, you have 2500 mazes, and you have to finish each of them before you
 can start the next one. In the meantime, other people (including the
 CentOS people) are getting lost in that same (but copied) maze, so you
 cannot help each other find the exit, until you do.

 My maze is the build order (ie dependancy order of the SRPMS),
 What are yours? how do you get to that number of mazes?

The build order is not what took 86 days, was it ?


 Feel free to coordinate, we will all profit from your coordination skills.

We don't need the coordination anymore, you have the secret now for
CentOS 5.6 (and the previous builds) I am certain that if more people 
understood the basic problems with building CentOS, more people would be 
skilled to help in the next iteration.

Now every release that is closed, is a lost opportunity to attract more 
people.


 Let's waste time together fixing something that someone may already have
 fixed, who wouldn't be excited about that !

 Is this kind of useless discussion better?

If it would help to get more people the skills to help with the release, 
absolutely ! No community project thrives by keeping potential 
contributors ignorant.

It's only useless if there's no change.

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Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On 4/11/2011 2:59 PM, Tru Huynh wrote:

 Make your own experiment (i.e rebuild your own clone) and document/report 
 back
 what you find out as the proper order of rebuild of the upstream SRPMS ?

 So having everyone repeat the same mistakes with no coordination is your
 idea of doing things faster?
 who is everyone?

I might throw some time and equipment at it if I knew I wasn't 
re-inventing square wheels (or even round ones for that matter).  And I 
suspect that others smarter than I am would do the same and maybe even 
improve the approach by coming up with ways to predict the build 
environment needed to reproduce a given binary to reduce the 
trial-and-error time.  But I don't see this happening if the process 
stays closed any more than I think there would be a useful Linux today - 
or most of the packages comprising Red Hat's product - if development 
had not been open and shared.

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Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:20:59PM +0200, Dag Wieers wrote:
 On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, Tru Huynh wrote:
...
  My maze is the build order (ie dependancy order of the SRPMS),
  What are yours? how do you get to that number of mazes?
 
 The build order is not what took 86 days, was it ?
it's too easy to answer my question by yet another stab.

So where are these thousands of mazes?
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Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 03:37:28PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
 On 4/11/2011 2:59 PM, Tru Huynh wrote:
 
  Make your own experiment (i.e rebuild your own clone) and document/report 
  back
  what you find out as the proper order of rebuild of the upstream SRPMS ?
 
  So having everyone repeat the same mistakes with no coordination is your
  idea of doing things faster?
  who is everyone?
 
 I might throw some time and equipment at it if I knew I wasn't 
 re-inventing square wheels (or even round ones for that matter).  And I 
 suspect that others smarter than I am would do the same and maybe even 
 improve the approach by coming up with ways to predict the build 
 environment needed to reproduce a given binary to reduce the 
 trial-and-error time.
Same answer for you than I made for Dag, volonteer to coordinate, build, 
write scripts, publish *your* work and you will be helping your fellows.
  But I don't see this happening if the process 
 stays closed any more than I think there would be a useful Linux today - 
 or most of the packages comprising Red Hat's product - if development 
 had not been open and shared.
I only see wasted time talking, no actions. I will be happy to be proven wrong.

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Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-11 Thread Ned Slider

On 11/04/11 20:16, Digimer wrote:

 /putting on asbestos pants.

 each release is more complex than the last. The web of dependency grows,
 so the reverse-engineering takes longer and longer.


This is just complete nonsense. You clearly have no understanding of the 
processes involved in rebuilding RHEL. CentOS doesn't reverse-engineer 
anything, they simply rebuild the upstream sources. It's not rocket science.

 Perhaps the tact to take is to apply pressure to the upstream provider
 to release the build details? I am sure that many folks who start with
 CentOS, grow to be large and move to RH proper. So there is, I would
 venture, an argument to be made that RH providing this info to CentOS
 and helping CentOS thrive would be beneficial for their business.


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Re: [CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, Tru Huynh wrote:

 On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 10:20:59PM +0200, Dag Wieers wrote:
 On Mon, 11 Apr 2011, Tru Huynh wrote:
 ...
 My maze is the build order (ie dependancy order of the SRPMS),
 What are yours? how do you get to that number of mazes?

 The build order is not what took 86 days, was it ?

 it's too easy to answer my question by yet another stab.

It's not a stab. Although if you take everything personal, you might think 
it is.

You implied that only the build order is what makes it hard. I doubt that 
build order is what took 86 days. But I don't know what exactly took 86 
days, because the build process and the problems are closed.

So this discussion may seem to you as trolling, but I cannot be more 
specific, can I ? Transparancy would actually make this discussion 
worthwhile, maybe even exciting, and solutions possible.


 So where are these thousands of mazes?

Well, every package that needs to be rebuild is a maze. If you require 
everyone to rebuild the same package and potentially troubleshoot that 
package, you are duplicating A LOT OF work, and you may be introducing 
differences in builds (due to build order) that make problems unique to a 
specific build.

So not only would that be unworkable, it would be deliberatly harder to 
release sooner.

All when CentOS is already doing some of that work, behind doors.

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[CentOS] Just a question about the Announce List

2011-04-11 Thread Scott Silva

Did the Announce go out for CentOS 5.6, or are people just jumping the gun?
If it went out, I missed it, and need to look at my spam filters.

If it hasn't gone out yet, then maybe I'm OK...

See... No is it ready crap in here!

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