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2014-07-07 16:55 GMT-05:00, Ernesto Pérez Estévez ernesto.pe...@cedia.org.ec:
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On 07/07/2014 04:08 PM, Nilton Morales wrote:
Hola, alguna diferencia notable entre la 6.5 y 7, es recomendable
bajar e instalar la 7 ó actualizar la 6.5 ? hace dos
Hola lista, estuve leyendo hace tiempo en la wiki o por ahi en el
sitio CentOS que para hacer eso generalmente se reinstala todo, osea
que hay que hacer practicamente una instalación fresca por decir, no
me pareció algo práctico, se puede también hacer un upgrade usando
yum, pero recuerdo que
Por lo general acostumbro a instalar las version Minimal de centos. revise
varios repos pero no esta.
Sera que no van a sacar esta version reducida pero para mi mas segura,
quien sabe.
Saludos
El 8 de julio de 2014, 7:01, Rodolfo Edgar sololistasdecor...@gmail.com
escribió:
El 7/7/14, William
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On 07/08/2014 08:36 AM, Pablo Alberto Flores wrote:
Por lo general acostumbro a instalar las version Minimal de centos.
revise varios repos pero no esta. Sera que no van a sacar esta
version reducida pero para mi mas segura, quien sabe.
bueno, las
Saludos,
Siempre que hay cambio en versiones mayores la recomendación es hacer una
instalación desde ceros, para evitar problemas futuros.
Igualmente, la recomendación es esperar, tan siquiera, a la primera
actualización para poner el sistema en producción.
Salvo que se requieran
On 07/08/2014 03:41 AM, Always Learning wrote:
On Mon, 2014-07-07 at 21:34 -0400, Scott Robbins wrote:
No systemd in FreeBSD. It isn't Linux, and like any O/S, has its own
oddities.
It would take more adjustment, IMHO, to go from CentOS 6.x to FreeBSD than
to go to 7.x. (I'm saying
Hello Reindl,
On Thu, 03 Jul 2014 01:52:27 +0200 Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
Am 03.07.2014 00:37, schrieb wwp:
I'm trying to get sound from applications running from other users bug
the one who owns the current GNOME sessions.
Typically, my default user is A and he's
Hello Robert,
On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 12:01:15 -0500 Robert Nichols rnicholsnos...@comcast.net
wrote:
On 07/05/2014 02:46 AM, wwp wrote:
Hello Michael,
On Fri, 4 Jul 2014 16:55:51 -0500 (CDT) Michael Hennebry
henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu wrote:
On Fri, 4 Jul 2014, wwp wrote:
On 07/07/2014 06:47 PM, Always Learning wrote:
Reading about systemd, it seems it is not well liked and reminiscent of
Microsoft's put everything into the Windows Registry (Win 95 onwards).
Is there a practical alternative to omnipresent, or invasive, systemd ?
The answer to this is no,
I manage several Fedora 14 servers. They was not upgraded due to
several reasons (systemd unreliability, K12LTSP support absence),
some newer packages I was building updating manually, some
other (OpenOffice, Mozilla) was possible update from projects
binaries.
Now I consider the options to
Johnny Hughes wrote:
On 07/07/2014 06:47 PM, Always Learning wrote:
Reading about systemd, it seems it is not well liked and reminiscent of
Microsoft's put everything into the Windows Registry (Win 95 onwards).
Is there a practical alternative to omnipresent, or invasive, systemd ?
The
there is a tui of centos 6 kickstart.
and now there is no such tui, only text line output.
is there an option to enable tui of centos 7 kickstart?
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On 07/08/2014 10:26 AM, 彭勇 wrote:
there is a tui of centos 6 kickstart.
and now there is no such tui, only text line output.
is there an option to enable tui of centos 7 kickstart?
there is a TUI for the installer, but it will only kick in if you are
not running noninteractive mode.
thanks for your kind help.
i add inst.cmdline option as a boot option or cmdline option to my
kickstart file, there still no TUI.
15.1.2. Installation in Non-Interactive Line Mode
If the inst.cmdline option was specified as a boot option in your
parameter file (see Section 18.4, “Parameters
Am 07.07.2014 um 20:30 schrieb Karanbir Singh kbsi...@centos.org:
We would like to announce the general availability of CentOS Linux 7
for 64 bit x86 compatible machines.
Hi Karanbir, JFYI: wrong GnomeLive.iso-URI in this announcement.
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On 08/07/14 02:22, Always Learning wrote:
On Mon, 2014-07-07 at 20:46 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 07/07/2014 07:47 PM, Always Learning wrote:
Reading about systemd, it seems it is not well liked and reminiscent of
Microsoft's put everything into the Windows Registry (Win 95 onwards).
On Mon, Jul 07, 2014 at 06:50:21PM -0700, Russell Miller wrote:
On Jul 7, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Scott Robbins scot...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
No systemd in FreeBSD. It isn't Linux, and like any O/S, has its own
oddities.
It would take more adjustment, IMHO, to go from CentOS 6.x to FreeBSD
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On 08.07.2014 09:12, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
On 07/08/2014 03:41 AM, Always Learning wrote:
On Mon, 2014-07-07 at 21:34 -0400, Scott Robbins wrote:
No systemd in FreeBSD. It isn't Linux, and like any O/S, has its own
oddities.
It would take more adjustment, IMHO, to go from CentOS
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thanks for your kind help.
i add inst.cmdline option as a
On 08.07.2014 13:57, Scott Robbins wrote:
On Mon, Jul 07, 2014 at 06:50:21PM -0700, Russell Miller wrote:
On Jul 7, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Scott Robbins scot...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
No systemd in FreeBSD. It isn't Linux, and like any O/S, has its own
oddities.
It would take more adjustment,
I still prefer IPTables, so in Fedora I simply disabled firewalld and enabled
IPTables. No need to uninstall. I have read that IPTables will continue to be
available alongside firewalld for the unspecified future.
Note that IPTables rule syntax and structure have evolved so your ruleset may
On 07/08/2014 04:22 AM, Always Learning wrote:
On Mon, 2014-07-07 at 20:46 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 07/07/2014 07:47 PM, Always Learning wrote:
Reading about systemd, it seems it is not well liked and reminiscent of
Microsoft's put everything into the Windows Registry (Win 95
On 08.07.2014 14:35, David Both wrote:
I still prefer IPTables, so in Fedora I simply disabled firewalld and enabled
IPTables. No need to uninstall. I have read that IPTables will continue to be
available alongside firewalld for the unspecified future.
Be careful with this though. A while
On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 02:09:49PM +0200, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
On 08.07.2014 13:57, Scott Robbins wrote:
Now that it's insinuated itself in the RHEL system, I do wonder if it is
going to start driving people away. In many ways, IMHO, RH has become the
Windows of Linux, with
On 07/07/2014 05:04 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
Wasn't there an upstart somewhere?
:-)
Why, of course, as in:
[lowen@dhcp-pool107 ~]$ rpm -qa|grep ^upstart
upstart-0.6.5-13.el6_5.3.x86_64
[lowen@dhcp-pool107 ~]$
This box is CentOS 6. Upstart was around for a few Fedora releases up
through
On 08.07.2014 14:58, Adrian Sevcenco wrote:
On 07/08/2014 04:22 AM, Always Learning wrote:
On Mon, 2014-07-07 at 20:46 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 07/07/2014 07:47 PM, Always Learning wrote:
Reading about systemd, it seems it is not well liked and reminiscent of
Microsoft's put
On 07/08/2014 08:09 AM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
On 08.07.2014 13:57, Scott Robbins wrote:
On Mon, Jul 07, 2014 at 06:50:21PM -0700, Russell Miller wrote:
On Jul 7, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Scott Robbinsscot...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
No systemd in FreeBSD. It isn't Linux, and like any O/S, has its
On 07/08/2014 04:06 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 08.07.2014 14:58, schrieb Adrian Sevcenco:
On 07/08/2014 04:22 AM, Always Learning wrote:
On Mon, 2014-07-07 at 20:46 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 07/07/2014 07:47 PM, Always Learning wrote:
Reading about systemd, it seems it is not
On 08.07.2014 15:22, Steve Clark wrote:
On 07/08/2014 08:09 AM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
On 08.07.2014 13:57, Scott Robbins wrote:
On Mon, Jul 07, 2014 at 06:50:21PM -0700, Russell Miller wrote:
On Jul 7, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Scott Robbinsscot...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
No systemd in FreeBSD. It
On 08/07/14 14:14, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
On 08.07.2014 14:58, Adrian Sevcenco wrote:
On 07/08/2014 04:22 AM, Always Learning wrote:
On Mon, 2014-07-07 at 20:46 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 07/07/2014 07:47 PM, Always Learning wrote:
Reading about systemd, it seems it is not well
On 07/08/2014 08:42 AM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
On 08.07.2014 15:22, Steve Clark wrote:
On 07/08/2014 08:09 AM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
On 08.07.2014 13:57, Scott Robbins wrote:
On Mon, Jul 07, 2014 at 06:50:21PM -0700, Russell Miller wrote:
On Jul 7, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Scott
Hello there. I've just downloaded the CentOS v7.0 via torrent and am
trying to verify the gpg signature for the file with hashes. When I do
gpg --verify sha256sum.txt.asc I get the key ID of F4A80EB5. Then I'm
trying to get the public key with gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys
On 07/08/2014 04:30 AM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote:
I manage several Fedora 14 servers. They was not upgraded due to
several reasons (systemd unreliability, K12LTSP support absence),
some newer packages I was building updating manually, some
other (OpenOffice, Mozilla) was possible update from
Dear all,
1.Is it possible to convert centos iso file to vmlinuz, initrd and
rfs_raw.img.
2.Can I use only vmlinux, initrd and rfs_raw.img to install via pxeboot.
Please share your information regarding this.
Thanks and regards
Dilip Kumar B
LT Technology Services Ltd
Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
On 08.07.2014 14:35, David Both wrote:
I still prefer IPTables, so in Fedora I simply disabled firewalld and
enabled IPTables. No need to uninstall. I have read that IPTables will
continue to be available alongside firewalld for the unspecified future.
nsip
One of
Scott Robbins wrote:
On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 02:09:49PM +0200, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
On 08.07.2014 13:57, Scott Robbins wrote:
Now that it's insinuated itself in the RHEL system, I do wonder if it
is going to start driving people away. In many ways, IMHO, RH has become
the Windows
Dilip Basavaraju wrote:
1.Is it possible to convert centos iso file to vmlinuz, initrd and
rfs_raw.img.
2.Can I use only vmlinux, initrd and rfs_raw.img to install via
pxeboot.
Please share your information regarding this.
Perhaps you should speak to either co-workers or your
i have text option in kickstart file which is upgrade from CentOS 6,
here is snippet:
#System language
lang en_US.UTF-8
#System keyboard
keyboard us
#Sytem timezone
timezone --utc Asia/Shanghai
rootpw changeme
#Reboot after installation
reboot
# non-interactive text line mode
cmdline
#Use
On Jul 8, 2014, at 5:09 AM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn denni...@conversis.de wrote:
That presumes that your conservative attitude is the majority opinion
though. Systemd is one of the features that I have been looking forward
to in CentOS 7 because of the new capabilities it provides so while
On 07/08/2014 10:49 AM, Russell Miller wrote:
On Jul 8, 2014, at 5:09 AM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn denni...@conversis.de
wrote:
That presumes that your conservative attitude is the majority opinion
though. Systemd is one of the features that I have been looking forward
to in CentOS 7 because of
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Russell Miller duskg...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jul 8, 2014, at 5:09 AM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn denni...@conversis.de
wrote:
That presumes that your conservative attitude is the majority opinion
though. Systemd is one of the features that I have been looking
On Jul 8, 2014, at 7:58 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
and the next one talking before try to get informations
there is no monolithic daemon damned
there is one project with one source tree maintaining
a lot of daemons and binaries - so be quite before
you tried to learn
On Tue, 8 Jul 2014 08:05:07 -0700
Russell Miller duskg...@gmail.com wrote:
Generally when people get personal I figure I must have hit a nerve.
I must have hit a nerve.
I didn't say it was windows-like. I said it was more windows-like
than I was comfortable with. Even with multiple
Oliver Schad wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jul 2014 08:05:07 -0700
Russell Miller duskg...@gmail.com wrote:
Generally when people get personal I figure I must have hit a nerve.
I must have hit a nerve.
I didn't say it was windows-like. I said it was more windows-like
than I was comfortable with.
On Tue, 08 Jul 2014 09:04:59 -0500
Johnny Hughes joh...@centos.org wrote:
And this is indeed the crux of the matter ... systemd is NOT just
about booting or boot up time (combing posts here .. but this is the
answer to, why use this on a server where fast booting is not
important).
Systemd
On 8.7.2014 17:25, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
The problem firewalld tries to solve is that nowadays you often want to
insert temporary rules that should only be active while a certain
application is running. This collides a bit with the way iptables works.
For
On Tue, 2014-07-08 at 15:58 +0300, Adrian Sevcenco wrote:
On 07/08/2014 04:22 AM, Always Learning wrote:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_topicq=systemd
The systemd proponent, advocate and chief developer? wants to
abolish /etc and /var in favour of having the /etc and
On Tue, 2014-07-08 at 15:14 +0200, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
There are no plans to abolish /etc and /var.
The idea is that rather than say proftpd shipping a default config file
/etc/proftpd.conf that you then have to edit for you needs instead it
will ship the default config somewhere
On 07/08/2014 11:37 AM, Always Learning wrote:
Please see the link above. I used it to find the 'stateless' item, and
after selecting it clicked on
http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/stateless.html
There are many use cases involving servers where such a capability would
be highly desirable.
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn
denni...@conversis.de wrote:
Also the switch from messy bash scripts to a declarative
configuration makes things easier once you get used to the syntax.
Sorry, but I'd recommend that anyone who thinks shell syntax is
'messy' just stay away
On Mon, 7 Jul 2014, Pete Travis wrote:
Asus and the like don't make BIOS, they get it from AMI or Phoenix or
whatever. It will usually say in POST screens or in the setup itself;
failing that, it might be etched on the chip itself.
Thanks. That enabled me to find
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Russell Miller duskg...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jul 8, 2014, at 5:09 AM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn denni...@conversis.de
wrote:
That presumes that your conservative attitude is the majority opinion
though. Systemd is one of the features that I have been looking
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu wrote:
And dynamic spinup of servers to handle increased load is a use case for
systemd's rapid bootup. They go hand-in-hand.
Don't know about your servers, but ours take much, much longer for
their boot-time memory and hardware
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Andrew Wyatt and...@fuduntu.org wrote:
This is an unfortunate problem in the community today, anyone who disagrees
with status-quo is just an antique, it's insulting to say the least. It
doesn't matter our experience, we're just causing trouble because we
On 7/8/2014 8:49 AM, Russell Miller wrote:
For the record, I'm not uncomfortable with change. I'm uncomfortable with
stupid,
poorly thought out, monolithic change that ignores half a century of the UNIX
philosophy.
And creating a daemon that tries to handle everything but the kitchen sink
On 07/08/2014 11:58 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:
... How much is this going to cost a typical company _just_ to keep
their existing programs working the same way over the next decade
(which is a relatively short time in terms of business-process changes)?
Les, this is the wrong question to ask.
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Tony Schreiner
anthony.schrei...@bc.edu wrote:
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Russell Miller duskg...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jul 8, 2014, at 5:09 AM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn denni...@conversis.de
wrote:
That presumes that your conservative attitude is the
On 07/08/2014 11:05 AM, Russell Miller wrote:
On Jul 8, 2014, at 7:58 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
and the next one talking before try to get informations
there is no monolithic daemon damned
there is one project with one source tree maintaining
a lot of daemons and
On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 10:27:41AM -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
Scott Robbins wrote:
On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 02:09:49PM +0200, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
On 08.07.2014 13:57, Scott Robbins wrote:
Very true. I do remember Adam Williamson of Fedora commenting on their
forums that he
Hi all,
I’ll just say something about all this, I think mostly as a reflection, on my
15 years of Linux and Unix experience, as a user, as a network admin and as an
Linux/Unix evangelist and Windows/Microsoft hater on my early years:
Systemd is a totally unnecessary change, it goes totally
On 07/08/2014 12:06 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
Don't know about your servers, but ours take much, much longer for
their boot-time memory and hardware tests and initialization than
anything the old style sysvinit scripts do.
Physical servers can be told to skip certain parts of their POST,
On 08 July 2014 @16:02 zulu, Michael Hennebry wrote:
I certainly do not want to have to buy some more DDR2 memory.
Usually, memory sticks just need to be removed and reseated, not replaced.
The gold plating is supposed to prevent oxidation of the contact
surfaces, but it can wear off (0.4
On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 12:21:43PM -0400, Scott Robbins wrote:
Wow. This was my bad in assuming everyone knows who Adam is--a very good
natured and helpful person.
I should also add that Adam's comment was very tongue-in-cheek and aimed at
people who took it that way. Again, I really
On 07/08/2014 12:05 PM, Andrew Wyatt wrote:
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Russell Miller duskg...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jul 8, 2014, at 5:09 AM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn denni...@conversis.de
wrote:
That presumes that your conservative attitude is the majority opinion
though. Systemd is one of
On Jul 8, 2014 10:02 AM, Michael Hennebry henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu
wrote:
On Mon, 7 Jul 2014, Pete Travis wrote:
Asus and the like don't make BIOS, they get it from AMI or Phoenix or
whatever. It will usually say in POST screens or in the setup itself;
failing that, it might be
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Dilip Basavaraju
dilip.kum...@lnttechservices.com wrote:
Dear all,
1.Is it possible to convert centos iso file to vmlinuz, initrd and
rfs_raw.img.
Loop mount the ISO, and locate the files you want.
2.Can I use only vmlinux, initrd and
On Tue, 8 Jul 2014, Lamar Owen wrote:
Les, this is the wrong question to ask. The question I ask is 'What
will be my return on investment be, in potentially lower costs, to run
my programs in a different way?' If there is no ROI, or a really long
ROI, well, I still have C6 to run until 2020
On Tue, 8 Jul 2014, Scott Robbins wrote:
I should also add that Adam's comment was very tongue-in-cheek and aimed at
people who took it that way. Again, I really apologize for taking that out
of context and expecting everyone to somehow magically grasp the context
especially as it seems it
On 07/08/2014 12:21 PM, Scott Robbins wrote:
On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 10:27:41AM -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
Scott Robbins wrote:
On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 02:09:49PM +0200, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
On 08.07.2014 13:57, Scott Robbins wrote:
Very true. I do remember Adam Williamson of
You aren't old.
(Sent from iPhone, so please accept my apologies in advance for any spelling or
grammatical errors.)
On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:49 AM, Russell Miller duskg...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jul 8, 2014, at 5:09 AM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn denni...@conversis.de
wrote:
That presumes
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Gilbert Sebenste
seben...@weather.admin.niu.edu wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jul 2014, Lamar Owen wrote:
Les, this is the wrong question to ask. The question I ask is 'What
will be my return on investment be, in potentially lower costs, to run
my programs in a different
On 07/08/2014 12:44 PM, Hal Wigoda wrote:
You aren't old.
And I am a young 21. three times over. All that means is I have to
learn new stuff now 3 times to get it right! As some people on this
list will attest to :)
Soon I will be 26 (2^6). So that means that I have to then learn
Michael Hennebry wrote:
On Mon, 7 Jul 2014, Pete Travis wrote:
Asus and the like don't make BIOS, they get it from AMI or Phoenix or
whatever. It will usually say in POST screens or in the setup itself;
failing that, it might be etched on the chip itself.
Thanks. That enabled me to find
Les Mikesell wrote:
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu wrote:
And dynamic spinup of servers to handle increased load is a use case for
systemd's rapid bootup. They go hand-in-hand.
Don't know about your servers, but ours take much, much longer for
their boot-time
Lamar Owen wrote:
On 07/08/2014 11:58 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:
... How much is this going to cost a typical company _just_ to keep
their existing programs working the same way over the next decade
(which is a relatively short time in terms of business-process changes)?
Les, this is the wrong
On 07/08/2014 12:51 PM, Mauricio Tavares wrote:
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Gilbert Sebenste
seben...@weather.admin.niu.edu wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jul 2014, Lamar Owen wrote:
Les, this is the wrong question to ask. The question I ask is 'What
will be my return on investment be, in
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu wrote:
On 07/08/2014 11:58 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:
... How much is this going to cost a typical company _just_ to keep
their existing programs working the same way over the next decade
(which is a relatively short time in terms of
Scott Robbins wrote:
On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 10:27:41AM -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
Scott Robbins wrote:
On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 02:09:49PM +0200, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
On 08.07.2014 13:57, Scott Robbins wrote:
Very true. I do remember Adam Williamson of Fedora commenting on
snipThen that grey headed guy or gal
gentlely leads the QA into a critical edge case that completely breaks
the proposal. /snip
When you do that to a certain developer you get banned from a certain G+
feed for make believe personal attacks because changing the conversation
is much simpler
Lamar Owen wrote:
On 07/08/2014 12:06 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
snip
There are alot of possibilities here, if you're willing to think outside
the 1970's timesharing minicomputer box that gave rise to the historical
Unix philosophy. And this has nothing to do with Windows; I have been a
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Andrew Wyatt and...@fuduntu.org wrote:
This is an unfortunate problem in the community today, anyone who
disagrees
with status-quo is just an antique, it's insulting to say the
On Tue, 8 Jul 2014, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
and did the conversion for display to save another byte. Efficiency?
We were desperate for every byte we could squeeze out. the US Post
Office created a standard so that all US cities (and supposedly streets)
could be entered in 14 characters or
Darr247 wrote:
On 08 July 2014 @16:02 zulu, Michael Hennebry wrote:
I certainly do not want to have to buy some more DDR2 memory.
Usually, memory sticks just need to be removed and reseated, not replaced.
The gold plating is supposed to prevent oxidation of the contact
surfaces, but it can
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu wrote:
Memory tests are redundant with ECC. (I
know; I have an older SuperMicro server here that passes memory testing
in POST but throws nearly continuous ECC errors in operation; it does
operate, though). If it fails during spinup,
On 07/08/2014 01:11 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
Lamar Owen wrote:
On 07/08/2014 11:58 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:
... How much is this going to cost a typical company _just_ to keep
their existing programs working the same way over the next decade
(which is a relatively short time in terms of
On 7/8/2014 9:25 AM, Lamar Owen wrote:
Physical servers can be told to skip certain parts of their POST,
especially the memory test. Memory tests are redundant with ECC.
but, you HAVE to zero ALL of memory with ECC to initialize it.
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john r pierce 37N
On Tue, 2014-07-08 at 13:19 -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
ROTFLMAO! And can you explain the difference between cloud and
time-sharing on a mainframe?
75 baud on a TTY (clank, clank, clank, ding, thud as the printer head
returned to the beginning of the line) and an amazingly fast speed of
On 07/08/2014 08:05 AM, Russell Miller wrote:
On Jul 8, 2014, at 7:58 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
and the next one talking before try to get informations
there is no monolithic daemon damned
there is one project with one source tree maintaining
a lot of daemons and
On 08.07.2014 15:53, Ned Slider wrote:
On 08/07/14 14:14, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
On 08.07.2014 14:58, Adrian Sevcenco wrote:
On 07/08/2014 04:22 AM, Always Learning wrote:
On Mon, 2014-07-07 at 20:46 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 07/07/2014 07:47 PM, Always Learning wrote:
On 07/08/2014 01:19 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
Lamar Owen wrote:
On 07/08/2014 12:06 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
snip
There are alot of possibilities here, if you're willing to think outside
the 1970's timesharing minicomputer box that gave rise to the historical
Unix philosophy. And this has
On Tue, 8 Jul 2014, Pete Travis wrote:
On Jul 8, 2014 10:02 AM, Michael Hennebry henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu
wrote:
The beep codes say memory.
I ran memtest86 overnight and it passed.
That said, I'm not sure how good memtest86 is.
Could you suggest a memory test program that might find
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Gilbert Sebenste
seben...@weather.admin.niu.edu wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jul 2014, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
and did the conversion for display to save another byte. Efficiency?
We were desperate for every byte we could squeeze out. the US Post
Office created a
On 8.7.2014 20:45, Les Mikesell wrote:
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Gilbert Sebenste
seben...@weather.admin.niu.edu wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jul 2014, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
and did the conversion for display to save another byte. Efficiency?
We were desperate for every byte we could squeeze
On Tue, 8 Jul 2014, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
Michael Hennebry wrote:
On Mon, 7 Jul 2014, Pete Travis wrote:
Asus and the like don't make BIOS, they get it from AMI or Phoenix or
whatever. It will usually say in POST screens or in the setup itself;
failing that, it might be etched on the
On 07/08/2014 01:45 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Gilbert Sebenste
seben...@weather.admin.niu.edu wrote:
On Tue, 8 Jul 2014, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
and did the conversion for display to save another byte. Efficiency?
We were desperate for every byte we could
Steve Clark wrote:
On 07/08/2014 12:55 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 07/08/2014 12:44 PM, Hal Wigoda wrote:
You aren't old.
And I am a young 21. three times over. All that means is I have to
learn new stuff now 3 times to get it right! As some people on this
list will attest to :)
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