Re: [CentOS] PHP version not enough for developers

2015-10-24 Thread Lamar Owen
On 10/23/2015 05:45 PM, Yamaban wrote: Well, looking back, during kernel 2.6 there was no systemd at all. But! That was the time where udev and dbus came into the boot cycle. ... What was the rationale to get udev into boot? -- Handling the ever changing mess of plugable, switchable hardware.

Re: [CentOS] PHP version not enough for developers

2015-10-24 Thread Keith Keller
On 2015-10-24, Johnny Hughes wrote: > > For the sake of everyone's sanity .. if you (any user, not mark > specifically) don't want to use systemd, then please don't use CentOS-7. For example, you could help out with Devuan, which aims to remove systemd from Debian, or you can

Re: [CentOS] PHP version not enough for developers

2015-10-24 Thread Lamar Owen
On 10/24/2015 10:08 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: Was it? Many servers are deployed as standard images, both physical and virtual, and having a single, standard, cloned image boot easily on multiple types of hardware makes lots of sense in this environment. Dbus is about hardware enumeration, both

[CentOS] Re: PHP version not enough for developers

2015-10-24 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
Yamaban wrote: >The mess we have now, is not the work of just one change. >What was the rationale to get udev into boot? -- Handling the ever >changing mess of plugable, switchable hardware. Not born and bred >for servers, but for mobiles (phones, tablets, laptops). >Who was the one that decided

Re: [CentOS] PHP version not enough for developers

2015-10-24 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 10/23/2015 03:44 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > Jonathan Billings wrote: >> On Oct 23, 2015, at 9:46 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: >>> James B. Byrne wrote: I am glad to discover that I am not losing my mind. I too have been rather dismayed at the perceived increase in frequency

Re: [CentOS] OpenSSL and OpenSSH on CentOS (FIPS enabled)

2015-10-24 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 10/22/2015 09:12 PM, Ning Liu (niliu2) wrote: (1) Is that true for OpenSSL ? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18616573/how-to-check-fips-140-2-support-in-openssl But, having said that, you should note that FIPS is a certification that applies to specific products. You can enable "FIPS

Re: [CentOS] PHP version not enough for developers

2015-10-24 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Sat, October 24, 2015 12:23 pm, Keith Keller wrote: > On 2015-10-24, Johnny Hughes wrote: >> >> For the sake of everyone's sanity .. if you (any user, not mark >> specifically) don't want to use systemd, then please don't use CentOS-7. > > For example, you could help out

[CentOS] CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 128, Issue 8

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