Re: [CentOS-docs] CentOS wiki self-introduction: BenCotton

2020-12-13 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 10:45 AM Akemi Yagi wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 6:56 AM Ben Cotton wrote: > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I'd like to request access to edit the CentOS wiki. I am requesting > > access so that I can add and maintain an FAQ page for CentOS Stream. > > > > > > Thanks, >

Re: [CentOS-es] CentOS rip?

2020-12-13 Thread walter
Oracle publico un script de migración de CentOS a Oracle Linux https://readyforlinux.com/oracle-publico-un-script-de-migracion-de-centos-a-oracle-linux/?fbclid=IwAR2jOUnTKmQsoh9v4TsZZnXYlOSwS8nLi7LpwQOmM2RmJloJfGRdzmggleg Henry Rosado: Solo me pregunto uno de los creadores de éste sistema

Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-13 Thread Scott Robbins
On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 11:11:58PM +0200, Nikolaos Milas wrote: > On 13/12/2020 9:44 μ.μ., Simon Avery wrote: > > > There are 4,606 people on their Slack right now > > ...which, by the way, is being acquired by SalesForce! > > Find a successor of Slack!  OT excuse to rant, because I get so

Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-13 Thread Jack Bailey via CentOS
I'm just trying to determine whether you were making the argument you intended to, because you are literally suggesting that the majority is silent, and the people who are silent are the ones that are happy with something. Silence doesn't confer anything. People can be displeased,

Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-13 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 12/13/20 1:32 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: On 12/13/20 8:56 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 12/13/20 2:45 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: When people are happy with something they do not voice their content on the mailing list, mailing list is only to voice your discontent. You heard about

Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-13 Thread John R. Dennison
On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 10:06:50PM +, Simon Avery wrote: > > Can't say I'm really appreciating the trolling in this list. It's to be expected. What I find surprising is the shilling for RH and this decision that I am seeing. Oh well, such is life. -- Seek not to follow in the footsteps

Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-13 Thread Simon Avery
On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 at 19:56, Gordon Messmer wrote: > So, the majority of users are silent, because they're happy? Cool. > Can't say I'm really appreciating the trolling in this list. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-13 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 12/13/20 8:56 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 12/13/20 2:45 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> When people are happy with something they do not voice their content on >> the mailing list, mailing list is only to voice your discontent. You >> heard about "silent majority", right? Ever though why

Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-13 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 12/13/20 1:25 PM, Dave Stevens wrote: On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 21:05:42 +0100 Rainer Duffner wrote: It’s also not often the case that you can split this kind of work into a thousand work-packages and have everybody just work 1/2 hour a day on it. not like Debian for instance d The workflow

Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-13 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
In the context of RHEL clones, I think we should use term "EL" instead of "CentOS", that is now trademark owned by RH. On 12/13/20 8:36 PM, Nikolaos Milas wrote: > On 13/12/2020 1:05 μ.μ., Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > >> Just an update, name of the project will be "Lenix", and I missedin >>

Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-13 Thread Nikolaos Milas
On 13/12/2020 9:44 μ.μ., Simon Avery wrote: There are 4,606 people on their Slack right now ...which, by the way, is being acquired by SalesForce! Find a successor of Slack!  Nick ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-13 Thread Dave Stevens
On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 21:05:42 +0100 Rainer Duffner wrote: > It’s also not often the case that you can split this kind of work > into a thousand work-packages and have everybody just work 1/2 hour a > day on it. not like Debian for instance d ___

Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-13 Thread Rainer Duffner
> Am 13.12.2020 um 20:44 schrieb Simon Avery : > >> >>> And there's *a lot* more than five of us. >> >> Here is number six. >> > > Just one of those groups energised from this decision is Rocky Linux. There > are 4,606 people on their Slack right now, which did not even exist a week > ago.

Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-13 Thread John R. Dennison
On Sun, Dec 13, 2020 at 11:56:05AM -0800, Gordon Messmer wrote: > > Your memory is still rusty.  Early accusations were that this would impact > developers (such as Oracle) who were adding additional patches to the > kernel, or other maintenance.  It never impacted "clones" like CentOS at > all.

Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-13 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 12/13/20 2:45 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: When people are happy with something they do not voice their content on the mailing list, mailing list is only to voice your discontent. You heard about "silent majority", right? Ever though why it is called that? So, the majority of users are

Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-13 Thread Simon Avery
> > > And there's *a lot* more than five of us. > > Here is number six. > Just one of those groups energised from this decision is Rocky Linux. There are 4,606 people on their Slack right now, which did not even exist a week ago. Yeah, it's more than five.

Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-13 Thread Nikolaos Milas
On 13/12/2020 1:05 μ.μ., Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: Just an update, name of the project will be "Lenix", and I missedin announcement that unlike CentOS they plan to publish all the build tools and environment so other clones can be built even if they stray, a very commendable approach. Sounds

Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-13 Thread Marc Balmer via CentOS
> Am 13.12.2020 um 19:53 schrieb Phelps, Matthew : > > On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 11:48 PM Gordon Messmer > wrote: > >>> On 12/11/20 9:56 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >>> And I will repeat that millions of CentOS users found free clone of RHEL >>> trustworthy enough to use it for production,

Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-13 Thread Phelps, Matthew
On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 11:48 PM Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 12/11/20 9:56 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > > And I will repeat that millions of CentOS users found free clone of RHEL > > trustworthy enough to use it for production, even without "official > > endorsement". > > > Exactly. That's

Re: [CentOS-es] CentOS rip?

2020-12-13 Thread Henry Rosado
Solo me pregunto uno de los creadores de éste sistema mail que fue EPE, como ve ésto, el era un fuerte en CentOS, aparte, que otra alternativa se podría tomar y de paso, los servidores que están en producción, tocará migrar a otros como Debian o ubuntu server? El dom., 13 dic. 2020 9:14, orkcu

Re: [CentOS-es] CentOS rip?

2020-12-13 Thread orkcu via CentOS-es
El problema connlos projectos de rebuild es el mantenimiento a largo plazo, año tras año, servers, connectivity, etcEl creador de CAOS, mas tarde renombrado CentOS se cansó en un momento, y fue una crisis fuerte para el projecto, pues él tenia el control de todo y estaba cansado pero le era

Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-13 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Just an update, name of the project will be "Lenix", and I missedin announcement that unlike CentOS they plan to publish all the build tools and environment so other clones can be built even if they stray, a very commendable approach. On 12/10/20 8:05 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: > Someone is

Re: [CentOS] Oracle Linux 8 - short experiment with install and basic setup of Mate Desktop

2020-12-13 Thread Rainer Traut
You have not asked me, but I have another thing to add - maybe related. Am 13.12.20 um 09:54 schrieb Simon Matter: Le 13/12/2020 à 05:30, Frank Cox a écrit : So after reading other folks' opinions of an Oracle Linux 8 (thanks again, Nicolas!) trial installation, I decided to crank up a Virtual

Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-13 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
On 12/13/20 5:48 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 12/11/20 9:56 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: >> And I will repeat that millions of CentOS users found free clone of RHEL >> trustworthy enough to use it for production, even without "official >> endorsement". > > > Exactly.  That's why it's so

Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-13 Thread Nikolaos Milas
On 13/12/2020 6:48 π.μ., Gordon Messmer wrote: Red Hat is giving us the thing that has been requested more often, by more people, than any other change in CentOS, and the result is that the press is full of stories about users being angry, because five people on the mailing lists sent a lot

Re: [CentOS] Fix for CVE-2020-1971 on CentOS 6.10

2020-12-13 Thread Simon Matter
> On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 08:20:04PM +0100, Simon Matter wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Attached patches: >> openssl.spec.patch.gz >> openssl-1.0.1e-cve-2020-1971.patch.gz >> >> Please let me know if you find any issues. > > Attachments scrubbed from your message when posted. > OK, let's try it again. Hope

Re: [CentOS] Oracle Linux 8 - short experiment with install and basic setup of Mate Desktop

2020-12-13 Thread Simon Matter
> Le 13/12/2020 à 05:30, Frank Cox a écrit : >> So after reading other folks' opinions of an Oracle Linux 8 (thanks >> again, >> Nicolas!) trial installation, I decided to crank up a Virtual Box >> session >> and try an install myself. > > I've made a few corrections to the article. If there's

Re: [CentOS] Oracle Linux 8 - short experiment with install and basic setup of Mate Desktop

2020-12-13 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 13/12/2020 à 05:30, Frank Cox a écrit : > So after reading other folks' opinions of an Oracle Linux 8 (thanks again, > Nicolas!) trial installation, I decided to crank up a Virtual Box session > and try an install myself. I've made a few corrections to the article. If there's enough demand, I

Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-13 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 11/12/2020 à 18:25, Gordon Messmer a écrit : > I'll repeat what I said earlier, CentOS has never offered the things people > are > complaining about losing.  They've never asked for your trust and confidence. For the last 16 years, the explicit scope of the CentOS project has been to rebuild

Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-13 Thread Nicolas Kovacs
Le 11/12/2020 à 02:25, Gordon Messmer a écrit : > Personally, I think that changing focus on CentOS Stream is going to make > CentOS (and maybe even RHEL) better in the same way and for the same reasons > that Fedora is a better distribution than Red Hat Linux was. Using Fedora on production