Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-09 Thread Keith Keller
On 2015-02-09, Always Learning cen...@u64.u22.net wrote: On Mon, 2015-02-09 at 11:12 -0800, John R Pierce wrote: On 2/9/2015 11:06 AM, Always Learning wrote: The third item was a 16.1 MB PDF of 1,344 pages. A quick scan of the PDF shows every page appears to be readable. 11 pages devoted

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-05 Thread Keith Keller
On 2015-02-04, Always Learning cen...@u64.u22.net wrote: On C5 the default appears to be:- -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1220 Jan 31 03:04 shadow It is much more likely that someone has screwed up your system. I think even CentOS 4 had shadow as 400. And what on earth would the point be in

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-05 Thread Keith Keller
On 2015-02-05, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: On Thu, February 5, 2015 5:23 pm, Always Learning wrote: On Thu, 2015-02-05 at 16:39 -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1220 Jan 31 03:04 shadow Be it me, I would consider box compromised. All done

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-04 Thread Keith Keller
On 2015-02-04, James B. Byrne byrn...@harte-lyne.ca wrote: One might question why *nix distributions insist on providing a known point of attack to begin with. Why does user 0 have to be called root? Why not beatlebailey, cinnamon or pasdecharge? That is more or less what OS X does. User 0

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-04 Thread Keith Keller
On 2015-02-04, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: I'm neutral to sudo (even though I was taught the smaller number of SUID/SGID files you have, the better). Yet, I'm considering it less safe to have regular user who can log in with GUI interface, and likely to be doing regular

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-03 Thread Keith Keller
On 2015-02-03, Scott Robbins scot...@nyc.rr.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 03, 2015 at 01:53:45PM +, Timothy Murphy wrote: The first is Don't use a palindrome which makes me wonder if the author knows the meaning of this word. I suspect he/she thinks it means a known word backwards. That's

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-03 Thread Keith Keller
On 2015-02-03, Markus markus.scharit...@gmail.com wrote: On 2015-02-03 22:22, Always Learning wrote: (1) When external access gets a password wrong 'n' occasions, as determined by the SysAdmin, the external IP address is automatically permanently blocked unless that IP is included in a IP

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-02 Thread Keith Keller
On 2015-02-03, Always Learning cen...@u64.u22.net wrote: Perhaps a topic for the Centos Wiki entitled Basic Security on Your New Machine ? As long as someone qualified is writing and reviewing this wiki page. --keith -- kkel...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-02 Thread Keith Keller
On 2015-02-03, PatrickD Garvey patrickdgarv...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 7:03 PM, Keith Keller As long as someone qualified is writing and reviewing this wiki page. I thought the Open Source base belief on that was that a single specific expert is insufficient. Fair enough

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-01-30 Thread Keith Keller
On 2015-01-30, Scott Robbins scot...@nyc.rr.com wrote: Others may think it's a great idea--at last, users can't install with a password of 1234. That's the same combination as my luggage! --keith (actually it's 12345, but don't tell anyone) -- kkel...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us

Re: [CentOS] Orwell's 1984 from Freedesktop,org?

2015-01-23 Thread Keith Keller
On 2015-01-23, Warren Young w...@etr-usa.com wrote: On Jan 23, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: I do prefer 3ware web RAID admin interface anything else (it more transparently prevents me from making fatal blunders - probably just me). No, not just you.

Re: [CentOS] Orwell's 1984 from Freedesktop,org?

2015-01-23 Thread Keith Keller
On 2015-01-23, Bill Maltby (C4B) centos4b...@gmail.com wrote: Actually, my rant was much more about it interrupting me, without being asked, to do some updates that I didn't yet request *and* being persistent about it over time in *my* (not Freedesktop.org's) work space. Perhaps if you'd

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Keith Keller
On 2015-01-11, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: Indeed. Or another system altogether (sihg). I'm just extending your thought half a step farther ;-) Or going even farther, if you like CentOS but not systemd, do the work to get CentOS working without it. Unhappy Debian users are

Re: [CentOS] Design changes are done in Fedora

2015-01-11 Thread Keith Keller
On 2015-01-12, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: PS I guess I just mention it. I'm quite happy about CentOS (or RedHat if I look back). One day I realized how happy I am that I chose RedHat way back, - that was when all Debian (and its clones like Ubuntu,...) admins were

Re: [CentOS] reboot - is there a timeout on filesystem flush?

2015-01-06 Thread Keith Keller
On 2015-01-07, Gordon Messmer gordon.mess...@gmail.com wrote: Of course, the other possibility is simply that you've formatted your own filesystems, and they have a maximum mount count or a check interval. If Les is having to run fsck manually, as he wrote in his OP, then this is unlikely

Re: [CentOS] When will CentOS Publish Errata?

2015-01-05 Thread Keith Keller
On 2015-01-05, Jonathan Billings billi...@negate.org wrote: On Mon, Jan 05, 2015 at 10:37:46AM -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote: 2. If someone comes up with a place to get said data, THEN we could properly publish that data in some way. It would be a hack, but you could probably subscribe an

Re: [CentOS] I can't see some of my onwn e-mails ...

2014-12-17 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-12-17, Bill Maltby (C4B) centos4b...@gmail.com wrote: I sometimes receive e-mails I post to this list, like I did the bug I reported about X problems, but other times not, like my first post about that before I reported the bug. [snip] I use gmail and ISTR a discussion recently about

Re: [CentOS] I can't see some of my onwn e-mails ...

2014-12-17 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-12-18, Mark LaPierre wrote: You could also address the email to yourself on a different mail server than the one your sending it from. I send to the list on gmail and address a copy to myself on AOL. That won't help indicate whether your post made it to the list or not. You'd need to

Re: [CentOS] rsync output under CentOS 6

2014-12-14 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-12-14, Niamh Holding ni...@fullbore.co.uk wrote: Many years ago, FC4 days, the following command run as a cron job would result in a nice summary email as follows /usr/bin/rsync -a --no-whole-file --delete /music /thecus-music/ --

Re: [CentOS] get /full/path/filename.ext from filename.ext

2014-12-10 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-12-10, Dan Hyatt dhy...@dsgmail.wustl.edu wrote: I don't know if this is of interest as an alternative. It may or may not be, but it doesn't help the OP, who already knows where the file is, and just wants the full absolute path. locate will not help him there, especially if there are

Re: [CentOS] DegradedArray message

2014-12-02 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-12-03, David McGuffey davidmcguf...@verizion.net wrote: Appears to me that device 0 (/dev/dm-2) on md0 has been removed because of problems. That looks about right. There may be more error messages in your system logs (e.g., /var/log/messages, dmesg), which might tell you more about

Re: [CentOS] Help with at Bash script

2014-12-02 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-12-03, Hal Wigoda hal.wig...@gmail.com wrote: You have to do cat domain in back tiks instead of read domain. This is an error you can't blame on your device. domain is not a file, but a bash variable. read takes stdin (which is what the OP's snippet is doing) and

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Digest, Vol 118, Issue 20 - Email found in subject

2014-11-20 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-11-20, g gel...@bellsouth.net wrote: On 11/20/2014 02:15 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: btw, if you are having problems posting, and it is *not* because you are being moderated, send post to me and i will be glad to Fwd: for you. Unless there has been a change he is currently being

Re: [CentOS] Fwd: Centos and logs

2014-11-18 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-11-18, zep zgreenfel...@gmail.com wrote: I would consider something like splunk (or more likely one of the free alternatives) and a setup like: I have heard and seen great things about ELK: elasticsearch, logstash, and kibana. I saw it in action and it looked and behaved a lot like

Re: [CentOS] mount options

2014-11-17 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-11-18, Fred Smith fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us wrote: I've got a Venus DS3R Pro2 external drive unit with two drives set up as RAID-1, and the raid volume is formatted as ext4. it is listed in /etc/fstab as: UUID=f787c482-fb92-4ba7-87d6-cfeaef6b64c2 /mnt/backup ext4

Re: [CentOS] mount options

2014-11-17 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-11-18, Fred Smith fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us wrote: But I don't think that's what I want. I want it to mount when the system boots, but if for some reason it is not powered on, I don't want it to hang up the whole boot process. noauto says it won't mount based on mount -a, and

Re: [CentOS] [OT] mail address - centos mail list

2014-11-08 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-11-08, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: If I understand the problem correctly your emails sent out by the Centos mailing list (using Mailman) are considered by Google et al to be spam. The fundamental reason you believe is be your site's usage of DKIM. The fundamental reason

Re: [CentOS] [OT] mail address - centos mail list

2014-11-08 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-11-09, Stephen Harris li...@spuddy.org wrote: On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 05:58:53PM -0800, Keith Keller wrote: The fundamental reason is because Mailman is rewriting the headers in an incompatible way. It is not his site's usage of DKIM. This is a known issue with Mailman. (I used

Re: [CentOS] automated smtp server check

2014-11-07 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-11-07, Iain Morris iain.t.mor...@gmail.com wrote: For some fast and free monitoring along with DNS verification/blacklist/config checks of your MX records, MXToolbox lets you monitor one domain for free. Nice to have an external, independent source checking your public MTA. Nagios is

Re: [CentOS] Bounced email processing

2014-11-05 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-11-05, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 10:06 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Btw, when Karanbir first banned me, he wrote me one email. I responded... and he didn't, nor has he contacted me in any way. In that email, btw, he said that he'd talked to me

Re: [CentOS] automated smtp server check

2014-11-05 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-11-05, zep zgreenfel...@gmail.com wrote: I'd second nagios, but I think to -really- test smtp, you'd need an external email source, a specialized target user and cron on both sides (at least that'd how I'd do it, just to be sure mail is really flowing through). For just testing

Re: [CentOS] Bounced email processing

2014-11-05 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-11-05, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: Did he really have to put the SARCASM/SARCASM tags on for you? Of course not. It's still inappropriate content (IMO of course), and possibly the content that contributed to him being moderated by the list admins. It's also inappropriate

Re: [CentOS] Centos7 Annoyances

2014-10-31 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-10-31, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: Nobody is _buying_ 32 bit machines any more, but machines sold 10 years ago were surprisingly robust. I am a notorious old hardware milker, and even I don't have any more 32bit hardware. By the time CentOS 6 is EOL you'd better have

Re: [CentOS] lynx only shows : FRAME: wlmframe

2014-10-23 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-10-23, Johan Vermeulen jvermeu...@cawdekempen.be wrote: when I log in through ssh to a remote site and open the web interface from a ( new ) printer using Lynx, it only displays : FRAME: wlmframe I suspect this is some unfriendly coding, that will cost me time in opening Firefox

Re: [CentOS] rsync question: building list taking forever

2014-10-20 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-10-20, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: So, you probably want the 'source' side of the transfer to be local for faster startup. But... in what universe is NFS mounting across data centers considered more secure than ssh? Or even a reasonable thing to do? How about a VPN

Re: [CentOS] rsync question: building list taking forever

2014-10-20 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-10-20, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Keith Keller The OP said he was mounting the NFS over sshfs. OK, I don't see how that is possible because something would either be mounted as nfs or sshfs, not one over the other. I'm just repeating

Re: [CentOS] rsync question: building list taking forever

2014-10-19 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-10-19, Tim Dunphy bluethu...@gmail.com wrote: ... and remember to use tcp for nfs transfer ;) Hmm you mean specify tcp for rsync? I thought that's default. No, he means use TCP for NFS (which is also the default). I suspect that sshfs's relatively poor performance is having an impact

Re: [CentOS] rsync question: building list taking forever

2014-10-19 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-10-19, Steve Thompson s...@vgersoft.com wrote: Don't forget that the time taken to build the file list is a function of the number of files present, and not their size. If you have many millions of small files, it will indeed take a very long time. Over sshfs with a slowish link, it

Re: [CentOS] djbdns under CentOS7: startup and socket issues

2014-10-17 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-10-17, Boris Epstein borepst...@gmail.com wrote: I am trying to get djbdns ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Djbdns ) running on CentOS 7. Is there a particular reason you prefer djbdns? In my experience it is extremely difficult to use without DJB's daemontools, and its zone file syntax

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 for i386/32-bit?

2014-10-15 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-10-15, Boris Epstein borepst...@gmail.com wrote: I can't find the 32 bit version of Centos 7. Would it be because I am not looking in the right place or does it not exist at all? As others have written, there is no official 32bit version of CentOS 7. There has been talk of a 32bit SIG

Re: [CentOS] Systemd Adding Its Own Console To Linux Systems

2014-10-13 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-10-13, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: On Mon, October 13, 2014 1:50 pm, Les Mikesell wrote: Being able to grab your existing desktop remotely with all open windows and long-running programs intact is a big plus, though - and you get that for free with NX or x2go.

Re: [CentOS] Filesystem writes unexpectedly slow (CentOS 6.4)

2014-10-13 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-10-14, Joakim Ziegler joa...@terminalmx.com wrote: So, if I use iozone -a to test write speeds on the raw device, I get results in the 500-800MB/sec range, depending on write sizes, which is about what I'd expect. However, when I have an ext4 filesystem on this device, mounted

Re: [CentOS] file system replication

2014-10-09 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-10-09, Jason T. Slack-Moehrle slackmoeh...@gmail.com wrote: I need to keep 2 systems identical. Mostly e-mail directories, web directories, mysql, etc. The goal here is to have a 2nd system ready to go it the first one starts to exhibit hardware issues. What are options to have this

Re: [CentOS] file system replication

2014-10-09 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-10-09, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: On 10/9/2014 10:55 AM, Keith Keller wrote: [lysncd is] basically a daemon monitoring inotify events and sending them to an rsync, so it can keep things up to date more easily. (I have never used it myself, so caveat emptor.) rsync

Re: [CentOS] Systemd Adding Its Own Console To Linux Systems

2014-10-08 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-10-08, m.r...@5-cent.us m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: John R Pierce wrote: On 10/8/2014 10:45 AM,m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Maybe that would get past his self-centered self-importance. look in the mirror. I was commenting re your constant complaining that you don't like change, therefore

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-02 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-10-02, Frank Cox thea...@melvilletheatre.com wrote: Since it has now become amazingly difficult to get a laptop if you're not planning to use Windows, at least around here, I'm wondering what the rest of you fine folks do when it comes to purchasing a laptop? Next time this comes

Re: [CentOS] Centos laptop support

2014-10-02 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-10-02, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: On Thu, October 2, 2014 10:48 am, Keith Keller wrote: I know this is probably a bit sacrilegious, but recently I have been tending to get a Mac laptop, and run any linux distributions I need inside a VM. OS X is (just barely

Re: [CentOS] Need to Understand booting process of CENTOS-7

2014-10-01 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-10-01, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: My apologies for being too lazy and not deleting my standard signature when posting to the list. You have nothing for which to apologize; anyone genuinely offended is overreacting. (I suspect that the responding poster was joking

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-26 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-09-26, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: On Fri, September 26, 2014 5:13 pm, John R Pierce wrote: linux apache web servers with the bash exploit are getting owned en masse today. my (patched) internet web server has logged 100s and 100s of attempts like...

Re: [CentOS] firefox: annoyance

2014-09-26 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-09-26, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: On Fri, September 26, 2014 5:13 pm, John R Pierce wrote: 66.186.2.172 - - [26/Sep/2014:00:49:29 -0700] GET /cgi-bin/test.sh no. mod_cgi launches /bin/sh and passes it the command, even if the file doesn't exist. and /bin/sh is

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7, xfs

2014-09-25 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-09-25, Steve Thompson s...@vgersoft.com wrote: On Thu, 25 Sep 2014, John R Pierce wrote: yes, you need inode64, as without it, it will be unable to create directories after the first 2TB(?) fills up. Close, it's 1TB. But you won't be able to create *any* new inodes, directories or

Re: [CentOS] Critical update for bash released today.

2014-09-25 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-09-26, Cliff Pratt enkiduonthe...@gmail.com wrote: Take the case of an Apache Bash CGI. This will have been loaded when Apache started, so Apache will have to be restarted to get the new one. Based on my (admittedly limited) testing I do not believe this is the case. Apache exec()'s

Re: [CentOS] LS command bizzare behavior

2014-09-22 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-09-22, Frank Cox thea...@melvilletheatre.com wrote: On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 10:48:32 -0500 Dan Hyatt wrote: but we can vi the files, we can access them via other means if we know the name. Then once we have accessed them, LS now shows the files. Sounds like a caching issue to me.

Re: [CentOS] LS command bizzare behavior

2014-09-22 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-09-22, Dan Hyatt dhy...@dsgmail.wustl.edu wrote: So how do I fix it. If it is in fact client-side, you have to fix the client. If these are Windows NFS clients then I am not much help. Perhaps the maintainers of the NFS client software have heard of this issue. If you have Samba

Re: [CentOS] KVM Remote

2014-09-18 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-09-18, Paul Heinlein heinl...@madboa.com wrote: On Thu, 18 Sep 2014, John R Pierce wrote: On 9/18/2014 12:59 PM, Matt wrote: Have a few Supermicro based CentOS boxes at remote date center. Is there anyway to do a remote KVM over TCP to them for the case when they do not seem to

Re: [CentOS] bizarre problem with performance

2014-09-17 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-09-18, Gerry Reno gr...@verizon.net wrote: Right off hand I would say that NFS is hanging and/or bad DNS lookup timeout. The OP said the hanging issue is only impacting local filesystems, not network. On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Dan Hyatt dhy...@dsgmail.wustl.edu wrote: any

Re: [CentOS] cron.weekly

2014-09-16 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-09-16, Warren Young war...@etr-usa.com wrote: On 9/16/2014 13:24, Matt wrote: If I have multiple files in cron.weekly and one script takes hours to finish. Will it block other scripts in cron.weekly? I doubt it, based on the results of this crontab on EL7: 51 13 * * * echo start 1

Re: [CentOS] ZFS

2014-09-15 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-09-15, Chris chris2...@postbox.xyz wrote: On 09/08/2014 09:00 PM, Andrew Holway wrote: Try ZFS http://zfsonlinux.org/ Maybe you can tune ZFS further, but I tried it in userspace (with FUSE) and reading was a almost 5 times slower than MDADM. Just running ZFS in the kernel is going to

Re: [CentOS] ZFS

2014-09-15 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-09-15, Warren Young war...@etr-usa.com wrote: On 9/15/2014 13:58, Eero Volotinen wrote: zfs release zero dot something does not sound like production ready ? https://clusterhq.com/blog/state-zfs-on-linux/ That's a super (and timely!) post on XFS. I saw in particular this section.

Re: [CentOS] C5 : Deleting un-deletable files ?

2014-09-14 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-09-14, Bill Campbell cen...@celestial.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 14, 2014, Always Learning wrote: The fsck cured the problem. The problem files were removed by fsck during its recovery/rectification. The first thing you should do when you find files or directories is use 'lsattr' to

Re: [CentOS] Centos 7 RAID tutorial?

2014-09-09 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-09-09, Eliezer Croitoru elie...@ngtech.co.il wrote: How stable is it on linux? My own experience is very limited, but I have heard from a handful of reliable sources who are very happy with ZFS. As Digimer noted, much of the challenge is in the licensing, not a technical issue. ZFS has

Re: [CentOS] OT: 3ware [was: Install Centos 6 x86_64 ...]

2014-09-08 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-09-08, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: Then you too manage to stick with reliable drives! Performance... well, I have array verify scheduled to start 23:00 on Saturday... also, on newer controllers you can choose policy with highest priority for IO and lowest for

Re: [CentOS] Install Centos 6 x86_64 on Dell PowerEdge 2970 and aSSD (hardware probing issues)

2014-09-08 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-09-08, Mark Tinberg mtinb...@wisc.edu wrote: On Sep 7, 2014, at 1:35 AM, Keith Keller kkel...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us wrote: This is why I would say that firmware updates are part of the preventative maintenance in the same way kernel updates are, if the bug was already fixed

Re: [CentOS] Install Centos 6 x86_64 on Dell PowerEdge 2970 and aSSD (hardware probing issues)

2014-09-08 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-09-08, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: I gave on the SiperMicro quite a while ago. Not because of BIOS, but because of hardware engineering flaws. Which at least manifests itself with system boards for AMD CPUs. These (AMD) boards work reliably for only 2-4 years,

Re: [CentOS] Install Centos 6 x86_64 on Dell PowerEdge 2970 and aSSD (hardware probing issues)

2014-09-07 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-09-06, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: ... I've mentined manufacturers in another reply: tyan, lsi, 3ware, ati... Even 3ware has had buggy firmwares. I once had to flash a 3ware card years into production because it was not until then that this particular bug was

Re: [CentOS] Install Centos 6 x86_64 on Dell PowerEdge 2970 and aSSD (hardware probing issues)

2014-09-07 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-09-07, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: It doesn't sound like you are flashing all 3ware cards you have in production every time new firmware release it out. It doesn't sound either like you had fatal failure of production box because of bug in 3ware firmware. Correct

Re: [CentOS] Minimum RAM for CentOS7

2014-09-07 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-09-07, Oliver Schad cen...@automatic-server.com wrote: With 1 GB RAM everything runs fine. Don't know, what they do with more than 512 MB RAM on a text only system during installation ... Could switch to a different console and bounce on top, if you're interested. 512MB seems really

Re: [CentOS] Install Centos 6 x86_64 on Dell PowerEdge 2970 and aSSD (hardware probing issues)

2014-09-07 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-09-07, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: I guess after that I should declare myself to be lucky. None out of more than a couple of dozens of 3ware cards ever did harm for me. I did once had one of them fried (my clumsiness most likely), which then just didn't come up

Re: [CentOS] Minimum RAM for CentOS7

2014-09-07 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-09-07, Oliver Schad cen...@automatic-server.com wrote: I don't see a reason, why I should have a zoo of distros. A productive basic installation of CentOS 7 needs ~ 100 MB RAM. Why the installation needs more than 5 times that is really interesting question. Are you volunteering to

[CentOS] OT: 3ware [was: Install Centos 6 x86_64 ...]

2014-09-07 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-09-08, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: Indeed, lucky me. As of this moment I have 6 of 9650 in production boxes. For at least 6 years. During which time none of them ever failed on me (including any trouble with arrays). Knocking on wood. You totally jinxed them!

Re: [CentOS] Centos 7 RAID tutorial?

2014-09-07 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-09-08, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: Even more: system failure or power loss is more likely to destroy all data on software RAID than on a single drive when there is a lot of IO present (to the best of my understanding, loss of cache software RAID is using is more

Re: [CentOS] Install Centos 6 x86_64 on Dell PowerEdge 2970 and aSSD (hardware probing issues)

2014-09-06 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-09-06, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: I get rackmount ones assembled by small company (companies) and about 1/2 of cost of similar hardware from Dell. Those are for the most part based on Tyan barebones. And during last at least decade I never had a must to flash

Re: [CentOS] Bare drive RAID question, was RE: *very* ugly mdadm issue [Solved, badly]

2014-09-05 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-09-05, Richard Zimmerman rzimmer...@riverbendhose.com wrote: Until I read this thread, I've never heard of building RAIDs on bare metal drives. I'm assuming no partition table, just a disk label? What is the advantage of doing this? For just my purposes, the advantage is that I can

Re: [CentOS] Bare drive RAID question, was RE: *very* ugly mdadm issue [Solved, badly]

2014-09-05 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-09-05, Bob Marcan bob.mar...@gmail.com wrote: When the disk dies, the replacement disk must be exactly the same size. Been there, done that. I allways make partition few GB smaller than the physical size. It's not always possible to get the same type of the replacement disk. I

Re: [CentOS] Verbose readout

2014-09-03 Thread Keith Keller
[lots of output kept; see below for response] On 2014-09-03, Reynold reynoldli...@gmail.com wrote: I ran this on disk 4 (CentOS 7). It does not pickup the Win8.1Pro disk. # grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg Generating grub configuration file ... Found linux image:

Re: [CentOS] *very* ugly mdadm issue

2014-09-02 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-09-02, Warren Young war...@etr-usa.com wrote: On 8/29/2014 14:26, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Note that we did this on *raw*, unpartitioned drives (not my idea). Nothing wrong with that, particularly with big midden volumes like this one. Indeed--hardware RAID controllers don't

Re: [CentOS] *very* ugly mdadm issue

2014-09-02 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-09-02, m.r...@5-cent.us m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: And my manager has taken a fancy to raw drives; not sure why. Some reasons have already been cited in this thread. No reasons are given, but the author of md and mdadm apparently prefers raw drives too.

Re: [CentOS] why does centos 7 want to install mariadb instead of mysql ?

2014-08-30 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-08-30, Tim Dunphy bluethu...@gmail.com wrote: I just got around to trying out CentOS 7. And for some reason when I attempt to install mysql-server, instead I'm offered mariadb? There are concerns in the wider open source community about Oracle's long-term plans for MySQL. I also

Re: [CentOS] EPEL-7 is Released

2014-08-30 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-08-30, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: On Fri, August 29, 2014 3:21 pm, Karanbir Singh wrote: EPEL-7 is now considered GA Just to add everybody some loughs: State of Georgia was as far as I came about GA without your help ;-) I think it'd be great if EPEL took over

Re: [CentOS] Hardware raid health?

2014-08-25 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-08-25, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: IF megacli64 works for this raid controller, then I tweaked some python scripts I found online and use these two scripts.. these live in /root/bin as they are only for root's use. They can probably go anywhere, since a normal user

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager

2014-08-23 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-08-23, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: The suggestion you made to switch to commercial system [sorry I brought your suggestion one step further in the same direction, oh I'm really tricky person] is quite in line with what commercial vendors would like to happen to

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager

2014-08-23 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-08-23, Steve Clark scl...@netwolves.com wrote: NetworkManager is the window's world way of doing things for people that don't really understand what is going on. I see no use for it immediately disable it. But it pains me to have to take the time. If you do it often enough, you

Re: [CentOS] HP ProLiant DL380 G5

2014-08-22 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-08-22, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: there's been a whole lot of merging and splitting. You know more about this than is probably healthy. ;-) --keith -- kkel...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us ___ CentOS mailing list

Re: [CentOS] Yum update changes inode of file

2014-08-22 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-08-22, GKH x...@darksmile.net wrote: Aside from the stupid way: create a file org_name copy it to new_name rm org_name mv new_name org_name I don't know of a way to change inode and keep md5 the same. If the bug that Matthew cited is involved, then that's likely very much what

Re: [CentOS] NetworkManager

2014-08-22 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-08-22, Bernard Lheureux bernard.lheur...@bbsoft4.org wrote: I totally agree, Les, I think RH and CentOS are really going the wrong way since the release of that ugly version 7 !!! You can always start a NoNetworkManager SIG. --keith -- kkel...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us

Re: [CentOS] Trying to override MAC addr

2014-08-21 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-08-21, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: On 8/21/2014 7:09 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I am trying to override the mac addr. pretty sure you need to use NIC model specific utilities to do this, ifcfg-ethN won't do it. the hwaddr= in there is for finding the nic, not for

Re: [CentOS] HP ProLiant DL380 G5

2014-08-21 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-08-21, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: (And I do not include into hardware RAID these fake raid cards that rely on driver - which are indeed software RAID cards. 3ware never fell that low to make/sell any of such junk. Somebody who knows LSI better than I do will

Re: [CentOS] HP ProLiant DL380 G5

2014-08-21 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-08-22, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: 3ware was independent company till it was first bought by AMCC, then LSI bought them from AMCC. I didn't know LSI sold them to someone else, Sorry, I was not clear: LSI was bought, not just 3ware. If you look at LSI's home page,

Re: [CentOS] LVM Configuration

2014-08-16 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-08-16, Scott Robbins scot...@nyc.rr.com wrote: My own lvm page, which someone at work, at least, found useful. http://srobb.net/lvm.html Depending on your audience, you may also want to detour into parted, in case people have large disks/arrays which fdisk can't fully address.

Re: [CentOS] Use postfix and spamd on CentOS 6 - looking for a shortest guide

2014-08-13 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-08-13, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: Building decent mail server with good spam filtering is different story, and requires some system administration knowledge. Building a decent public SMTP server with good spam filtering *that does not originate spam itself* and

Re: [CentOS] Use postfix and spamd on CentOS 6 - looking for a shortest guide

2014-08-13 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-08-13, Timothy Murphy gayle...@alice.it wrote: BC wrote: The task of postfix seems to me fairly easy to understand, so I don't see why implementing a solution should be that difficult. It seems easy to understand because you do not understand it. The more you delve into the topic of

Re: [CentOS] Use postfix and spamd on CentOS 6 - looking for a shortest guide

2014-08-13 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-08-13, Timothy Murphy gayle...@alice.it wrote: I seem to recall that you have very occasionally made helpful suggestions - maybe I am confusing you with someone else. I am somewhat mortified that you are not applying Occam's razor here. If you believe that I have been helpful in the

Re: [CentOS] rsyslog does not log on a separate partition/FS mounted on /var/log/

2014-08-06 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-08-06, John R. Dennison j...@gerdesas.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 06, 2014 at 04:50:41PM +, Tony Mountifield wrote: Probably rsyslog is being started before /var/log is mounted, and so it is opening files within /var/log on the root device. rsyslog should start after local mounts are

Re: [CentOS] using Red Hat site for documentation

2014-07-30 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-07-30, Jonathan Billings billi...@negate.org wrote: Eventually, you'll be able to use kpatch to avoid reboots for kernel updates, (http://rhelblog.redhat.com/2014/02/26/kpatch/), This looks very exciting! however I tend to think that Uptime is overrated. uptime as a number of days

Re: [CentOS] Some thoughts on systemd

2014-07-18 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-07-18, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: But it does force people who should be focusing on improving an application to instead spend their time reconfiguring the startup configuration for a distribution just to keep it working the same way. This seems (again) to be moving into

Re: [CentOS] Some thoughts on systemd

2014-07-17 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-07-17, Timothy Murphy gayle...@alice.it wrote: But the only practical advantage of systemd that I've seen touted is that it speeds up boot-time. Even if this were true it does not seem to me worth worrying about, It is if you manage a large cluster of virtual containers which

Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?

2014-07-15 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-07-15, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: So, in C7, how do I do a system httpd configtest ? Am I going to lose that facility in C7? apachectl configtest (which is all the init script does anyway) --keith -- kkel...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us

Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?

2014-07-15 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-07-15, Jonathan Billings billi...@negate.org wrote: Ok, I'll give some examples of my experiences. Warning: long post. Long, but really helpful. Thank you so much for putting your time in! So, the things that have bothered me so far: 1.) The order of the 'service SERVICENAME

Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?

2014-07-14 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-07-07, Always Learning cen...@u62.u22.net wrote: Reading about systemd, it seems it is not well liked and reminiscent of Microsoft's put everything into the Windows Registry (Win 95 onwards). Has anyone here actually interacted with systemd, and if so could you perhaps provide a writeup

Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?

2014-07-14 Thread Keith Keller
On 2014-07-15, Jonathan Billings billi...@negate.org wrote: I've been using systemd ever since it was introduced in Fedora, and the RHEL7 beta and CentOS7 final since it came out. I could tell you about all the positive and negative experiences I've had. I think this could be very useful,

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