Re: [CentOS] centos 5.5 - using mp3

2010-12-01 Thread Lamar Owen
On Wednesday, December 01, 2010 10:04:58 am Johan Scheepers wrote: Kindly please a step x step manner in which to accomplish to enable mp3 please. The Fluendo MP3 decode plugin for gstreamer is no-cost, and is fully licensed for MP3 playback. It should work for any gstreamer-enabled player.

Re: [CentOS] fsck - and there was much rejoicing

2010-12-01 Thread Lamar Owen
On Wednesday, December 01, 2010 02:01:35 pm m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Looks like the fsck bug has been stomped! I did a 960G drive this morning, and I'm 90% of the way through a 1.4T drive, both of which have *lots* of files and hard links, and it has *not* hung at 70.1%, and is running at

Re: [CentOS] ntfs

2010-12-06 Thread Lamar Owen
On Sunday, December 05, 2010 04:29:47 pm Niki Kovacs wrote: I've been following this thread, and I'm wondering: why bother with NTFS in the first place? It's also useful for MAC OS X and Linux data interchange. While there is a ext2 module for OS X, and there is HFS+ filesystem support for

Re: [CentOS] ntfs

2010-12-06 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, December 06, 2010 02:02:20 pm John R Pierce wrote: On 12/06/10 8:50 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: It's also useful for MAC OS X and Linux data interchange. ugh. disk file systems were really not intended for data interchange, especially not NTFS. use the network. In a dual-boot

Re: [CentOS] ntfs

2010-12-06 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, December 06, 2010 02:41:46 pm John R Pierce wrote: On 12/06/10 11:12 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: In a dual-boot scenario? ugh. dual booting is a pain in the derriere. use a VM if its for software testing or whatever. Some of us really do need to dual-boot, for whatever reason

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6: what's the status?

2010-12-06 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, December 06, 2010 02:31:23 pm Boris Epstein wrote: So, what's the story with CentOS 6? It is supposed to be out by now, or coming out soon, or so I heard - but yet there seems to be no mention of it at http://centos.org/ . Does anybody know what's up with that? Karanbir has

Re: [CentOS] ntfs

2010-12-06 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, December 06, 2010 03:50:49 pm Les Mikesell wrote: But you could easily run Linux under Virtualbox or vmware. While still running OS X. I'd rather not do that, as performance does suffer to a degree, and Linux is my primary environment, not my secondary one. Further, you then add a

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 6: what's the status?

2010-12-06 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, December 06, 2010 03:14:44 pm Eero Volotinen wrote: 2010/12/6 Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu: Karanbir has solicited help on the -devel list; I'm sure there are things that need doing that perhaps you could help with.. Can you point to the direct message? I might have some time

Re: [CentOS] IPV4 is nearly depleted, are you ready for IPV6?

2010-12-06 Thread Lamar Owen
On Sunday, December 05, 2010 06:50:44 am Rudi Ahlers wrote: Seeing as IPV4 is near it's end of life (http://www.internetnews.com/infra/article.php/3915471/IPv4+Nearing+Final+Days.htm), I'm curios as who know whether everyone is ready for the changeover to IPV6? Is anyone using it in

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.5 on a new Mac Mini? no CD Driver?

2010-12-06 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, December 06, 2010 03:54:15 pm Jason T. Slack-Moehrle wrote: Hi All, I am attempting to install CentOS 5.5 64 bit on my new Mac Mini. I boot to the CD and when I get to selecting where I am installing from (local cd, hard disk, ftp, etc) I select Local CD and it cannot find a

Re: [CentOS] IPV4 is nearly depleted, are you ready for IPV6?

2010-12-07 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, December 07, 2010 05:29:09 am Adam Tauno Williams wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 18:28 -0500, Bob McConnell wrote: No, the downside is that each address used will be exposed to the world. False. That is *NOT* a downside. In your opinion. Others hold a different opinion. While

Re: [CentOS] IPV4 is nearly depleted, are you ready for IPV6?

2010-12-07 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, December 07, 2010 10:32:32 am Tom H wrote: Is 172.16.10.72 a private address of yours or of your ISP? More to the point; do you have a route to his address? Blackhole routing makes the best firewall in the world; you can't even attempt to hack an address to which your autonomous

Re: [CentOS] IPV4 is nearly depleted, are you ready for IPV6?

2010-12-07 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, December 07, 2010 12:26:30 pm David Sommerseth wrote: You mean something along the way ... Oh, this Bob uses 172.16.10.72 ... let's run some traceroutes towards his gateway. That could be 64.57.176.18, right? Then we can just setup a direct route from us to his 172.16.10.0/24

Re: [CentOS] IPV4 is nearly depleted, are you ready for IPV6?

2010-12-07 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, December 07, 2010 12:39:28 pm Les Mikesell wrote: How many devices? You mean exceeding the number of available inside a IPv6 subnet? I do hope you're kidding ... as for a /64 subnet we're talking about 4.294.967.296 addresses doubled 32 times. Is that what people will

Re: [CentOS] IPV4 is nearly depleted, are you ready for IPV6?

2010-12-07 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, December 07, 2010 03:31:15 pm Lamar Owen wrote: It will depend upon your provider if you get PA addresses; Minor edit: 'The prefix size of your address block with depend upon your provider, if you get PA addresses by default from your provider; Sorry for the error

[CentOS] [OT]Asymmetric connections (was:Re: IPV4 is nearly depleted, are you ready for IPV6?)

2010-12-08 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, December 07, 2010 10:37:02 pm Christopher Chan wrote: On Wednesday, December 08, 2010 03:11 AM, Ben McGinnes wrote: The even more horrendous problem, which is so pervasive it affects everyone, is the insistence on asymmetric connections. Even when Australia does get this fabled

Re: [CentOS] SELinux - way of the future or good idea but !!!

2010-12-08 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, December 07, 2010 06:29:44 pm Les Mikesell wrote: I think you've missed the point that 'all that stuff' (being traditional unix security mechanisms) are not all that insecure. It is only when you get them wrong that you need to fall back on selinux as a safety net. And if you

Re: [CentOS] IPV4 is nearly depleted, are you ready for IPV6?

2010-12-08 Thread Lamar Owen
On Wednesday, December 08, 2010 10:03:26 am Scott Robbins wrote: I remember in an effort to get a life outside tech, I joined a mailing list for something else. I hadn't realized how most people top post, don't trim, and still use aol. Lots of corporate people top post to retain the

Re: [CentOS] SELinux - way of the future or good idea but !!!

2010-12-08 Thread Lamar Owen
On Wednesday, December 08, 2010 10:28:38 am L A Hurst wrote: From: Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu Alright, pray tell how I, a desktop Linux user, can, without VM's and without having to switch users, protect my files from a PDF attack through Adobe Reader? Backups. I looked in vain for a smiley

Re: [CentOS] SELinux - way of the future or good idea but !!!

2010-12-08 Thread Lamar Owen
On Wednesday, December 08, 2010 10:39:50 am Les Mikesell wrote: On 12/8/2010 9:21 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: Alright, pray tell how I, a desktop Linux user, can, without VM's and without having to switch users, protect my files from a PDF attack through Adobe Reader? Don't run software you

Re: [CentOS] [OT] Nerd rage (Was: IPV4 is nearly depleted, are you ready for IPV6?)

2010-12-08 Thread Lamar Owen
On Wednesday, December 08, 2010 11:13:05 am m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Top posting is talking over everyone else. Yep, you nailed it. It's reply mode=jerry_springer_guest in essence. And it is the way many non-technical people prefer to communicate. As Sam Goldwyn is often quoted as saying:

Re: [CentOS] SELinux - way of the future or good idea but !!!

2010-12-08 Thread Lamar Owen
On Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:17:40 pm Les Mikesell wrote: But your question was what to do if you choose to ignore the simple and available tools - things available and well understood on many platforms. VM = complex. Not to mention proprietary (for all but KVM) and resource-wasteful.

Re: [CentOS] SELinux - way of the future or good idea but !!!

2010-12-08 Thread Lamar Owen
On Wednesday, December 08, 2010 01:02:10 pm Les Mikesell wrote: Standards committees have their ways of breaking all previous existing implementations with their final decrees. Let me know when they are finished. Standards committees are never finished. Linux is not standardized, either;

Re: [CentOS] SELinux - way of the future or good idea but !!!

2010-12-08 Thread Lamar Owen
On Wednesday, December 08, 2010 01:47:07 pm Daniel J Walsh wrote: Sandbox -X might help solve some of these problems. Available in RHEL6 http://danwalsh.livejournal.com/31146.html?thread=212906 Looks interesting, Dan. Thanks much. And thanks much for the sometimes thankless work of trying

Re: [CentOS] SELinux - way of the future or good idea but !!!

2010-12-08 Thread Lamar Owen
On Wednesday, December 08, 2010 05:11:23 pm Warren Young wrote: Let's not drag the desktop user into this discussion, too. Why not? Are there no CentOS desktop users out there? Are the needs of the desktop just to be ignored? I support desktop Linux users who are not power users; works

Re: [CentOS] [OT]Asymmetric connections

2010-12-09 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, December 09, 2010 06:00:58 am Christopher Chan wrote: On Wednesday, December 08, 2010 11:11 PM, Lamar Owen wrote: Or would you prefer paying kilobucks per month for a tariffed OC3/12/48 or Gigabit provisioned Metro E? (that's all I can get, and it does cost kilobucks to get

Re: [CentOS] SELinux - way of the future or good idea but !!!

2010-12-09 Thread Lamar Owen
On Wednesday, December 08, 2010 10:06:34 pm Warren Young wrote: That's great if you are wise enough to forsee all problems that an automatic update can cause. I am not that wise. Nor am I; that's why I have testing server VM's on which to stage updates. Even on the production servers,

Re: [CentOS] SELinux - way of the future or good idea but !!!

2010-12-09 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, December 09, 2010 12:02:44 am Robert Nichols wrote: On 12/07/2010 05:11 PM, Rob Kampen wrote: Daniel J Walsh wrote: http://people.fedoraproject.org/~dwalsh/SELinux/Presentations/selinux_four_things.pdf I am having difficulty with the pdf file - both adobe and kpdf have

Re: [CentOS] Stripping silent periods from MP3s

2010-12-13 Thread Lamar Owen
On Sunday, December 12, 2010 12:48:36 pm Keith Roberts wrote: Or are there any other programs that can be used to strip silent periods from MP3's? Please see the mp3splt and mp3join programs referenced by

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, December 13, 2010 11:14:24 am Sven Aluoor wrote: What programming language should I learn? Python. You can find useful examples of python code throughout CentOS, beginning the yum itself. Get yourself a copy of 'Dive into Python' (can be had as a free download, legalling) and,

Re: [CentOS] Stripping silent periods from MP3s

2010-12-13 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, December 13, 2010 11:26:12 am Lamar Owen wrote: On Sunday, December 12, 2010 12:48:36 pm Keith Roberts wrote: Or are there any other programs that can be used to strip silent periods from MP3's? Please see the mp3splt and mp3join programs referenced by http://stream

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, December 13, 2010 12:54:35 pm Benjamin Franz wrote: But seriously, there are a fair number of (mostly older) languages that are fairly picky about whitespace. I still remember writing FORTRAN. We still have one application running on a VAXStation 4000 being maintained in FORTRAN

Re: [CentOS] Issues with CentOS in enterprise

2010-12-13 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, December 13, 2010 01:03:03 pm m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: What does 'enterprise' mean to you? Space. The final frontier... Hey, that's the question, when you're trying to get new, bigger disks! What we need is a working warp drive. These magnetic impulse drives are still too

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, December 13, 2010 03:15:48 pm Nick wrote: This is a bit like saying I have 12 years experience of hunting but I too myopic to aim a pistol, then asking which firearm should I carry? To an extent; I read it more along the lines of 'I have 12 years experience hunting with a scoped

Re: [CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-15 Thread Lamar Owen
On Monday, December 13, 2010 07:11:40 pm R P Herrold wrote: One could do ** much worse ** than Lua (the rantings of the MSFT fanboi here for the patent encumbered kit, not shipped on CentOS, such as C# come to mind) Or Intercal, although it's not in the repos. Which reminds me of my

Re: [CentOS] OpenBSD rows. Is Centos affected?

2010-12-15 Thread Lamar Owen
On Wednesday, December 15, 2010 01:30:28 am Fajar Priyanto wrote: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-techm=129236621626462w=2 See also http://www.itworld.com/open-source/130820/openbsdfbi-allegations-denied-named-participant ___ CentOS mailing list

Re: [CentOS] Building packages using RPMBUILD

2010-12-16 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, December 16, 2010 10:08:12 am Keith Roberts wrote: Is there a package I need to install and run to set things up corectly? [snip] So what build dir shall I go for? See the Fedora packaging guidelines, and install 'fedora-packager' from EPEL to get the tools that help you set up

Re: [CentOS] Building packages using RPMBUILD

2010-12-16 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, December 16, 2010 11:11:17 am Keith Roberts wrote: I had already installed the packages mentioned in the Centos wiki. These won't cause conflicts at all with each other? Don't know for sure, but in the case of RPMs I've built on CentOS 4 and 5 in the past they coexisted ok.

Re: [CentOS] use parted to create raw paration????

2010-12-16 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, December 16, 2010 02:03:23 pm mcclnx mcc wrote: if disk large than 2TB, fdisk will not work correctly. For GPT, use gdisk as a substitute for fdisk. gdisk 0.6.10 is available for CentOS 4 and 5 in the RPMforge third-party repository. The version in Fedora 14 is 0.6.13, for

Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC

2010-12-17 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday, December 17, 2010 02:44:46 am Helmut Drodofsky wrote: Hallo, actual Intel Ethernet cards PCI-E - Are normal recognized by Centos 5.5 Live CD - Not recognized by 5.2 Because of vmware, I will use 5.2 Why? Are you wanting it as a VMware host or guest? As the

Re: [CentOS] two cents or not two cents

2010-12-17 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, December 16, 2010 05:45:36 pm Sean wrote: If so, the problem is in reconciling that meaning with the reputation of CentOS to only support older versions of applications (eg Firefox-1.5, Thunderbird-1.0 etc). Where do people get this? On one of my up to date CentOS 5 VM's:

Re: [CentOS] two cents or not two cents

2010-12-17 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday, December 17, 2010 10:55:58 am Les Mikesell wrote: On 12/17/10 8:18 AM, Peter Kjellström wrote: Longevity (things continue to work without breakage for a long time): This kind of implies don't keep stuff continously updated to recent versions don't you think? It could work

Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC

2010-12-17 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday, December 17, 2010 11:21:29 am Helmut Drodofsky wrote: Vmware server 2.0.2-203138 And that would be the most recent build. With 5.3 my problem was solved. Have you tried 5.5 yet? For grins and giggles I'm going to play with it on a box I have, but it will be a little while before

Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC

2010-12-18 Thread Lamar Owen
On Saturday, December 18, 2010 04:19:25 am Gerhard Schneider wrote: The problem with VMWare Server is that it is a discontinued product for longer time and they don't provide us with a suitable replacement. VMware wants more people to get hooked on vSphere, so their 'suggested' VMware

Re: [CentOS] Intel NIC

2010-12-18 Thread Lamar Owen
On Saturday, December 18, 2010 02:56:12 pm Peter Larsen wrote: Have you considered looking into redhat enterprise virtualization? If you are interested I can put you in touch with a redhat rhev representative? Yes, I have. It's not in the budget right now using the current Red Hat pricing

Re: [CentOS] Dual or quad fast ethernet NICs (that work with CentOS)

2010-12-31 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, December 28, 2010 07:13:22 am robert mena wrote: I am looking for dual or quad fast ethernet NICs that work with CentOS. There is no need for high performance so regular fast/pci is ok. I have in a firewall box here a quad fastethernet board; lspci shows: 01:09.0 PCI bridge:

Re: [CentOS] Converting to maildir

2011-01-04 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, January 04, 2011 09:14:57 am Adam Tauno Williams wrote: On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 15:06 +0100, Dominik Zyla wrote: Many people care about storage format. And they are misguided in doing so. Details of message storage is an internal [server's] problem. Hmmm, not quite. When

Re: [CentOS] Converting to maildir

2011-01-05 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, January 04, 2011 10:59:21 am Alan Hodgson wrote: On January 4, 2011 07:36:27 am Lamar Owen wrote: But, honestly, I personally would love to use a PostgreSQL backend so that real concurrent access is possible; dbmail with PostgreSQL works really well. Thanks for the pointer

Re: [CentOS] [OT] RHEVM List

2011-01-06 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, January 06, 2011 12:51:39 pm Scott Robbins wrote: Esx(i) doesn't require a Windows server, only a Windows machine to run the VIC or whatever they call the newer version of the client. vCenter Server, required for vMotion, DRS, HA, and a number of other features, requires a

Re: [CentOS] [OT] RHEVM List

2011-01-08 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday, January 07, 2011 09:37:15 pm Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: Neither VMWare, Xen, nor VirtualBox require the bridged network ports, so it was a major configuration failing in KVM. Very minor nit: VMware does the bridging in the background for ESX (vSwitches are bridges). ESX 4.0 can have

Re: [CentOS] Customizing Centos

2011-01-08 Thread Lamar Owen
On Saturday, January 08, 2011 01:09:59 pm Keith Roberts wrote: You can't sell GPL source code as it is protected by the GPL, but you can sell a packaged product that includes GPL sources, like RHEL I suppose. Sure you can sell GPL sources; you just can't prevent the buyer from giving copies

Re: [CentOS] LiveCD System recovery - Mounting LVM?

2011-01-08 Thread Lamar Owen
On Saturday, January 08, 2011 04:27:39 pm Johan Martinez wrote: Now I am booting of CentOS live cd for system restore. I recreated partitions like previous system using fdisk and then used dd to dump all the data onto it. I would like to mount sda2 as LVM, but I don't know how to do that. Any

Re: [CentOS] ext4 or XFS

2011-01-11 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, January 11, 2011 01:47:33 pm aurfal...@gmail.com wrote: I've a 30TB hardware based RAID array. Wondering what you all thought of using ext4 over XFS. XFS. But make sure you're using a 64-bit CentOS. 32-bit CentOS (at least C5 of six months or so ago) will in fact run mkfs.xfs

Re: [CentOS] LiveCD System recovery - Mounting LVM?

2011-01-11 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, January 11, 2011 01:47:54 pm Kwan Lowe wrote: Also note that in some cases the lvm tools must be called by specifying lvm before the command lvm pvscan lvm vgchange -ay VolGroup00 To have in the archive, note that this is the case in the dracut shell (accessed at boot on error

Re: [CentOS] replace x86 with x64 system and reuse existing LVM

2011-01-11 Thread Lamar Owen
On Sunday, January 09, 2011 05:31:25 pm Kai Schaetzl wrote: As I understand once LVM gets loaded it should find the volumes by itself, but will it be able to use the same naming scheme for instance? Or do I have to do some additional stuff, anyway? I've done this, and there are a couple of

Re: [CentOS] hardware problem with 5.6

2011-01-14 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday, January 14, 2011 12:58:47 pm m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Dumb question: have you contacted Dell? They *do* support Linux, and RHEL (at least on their servers). See if they have a driver, or can point you to one. They also support Ubuntu on certain machines, and RHEL on some if not most

Re: [CentOS] Intel DH67BL + CentOS 5.5 IRQ #177 nobody cared

2011-01-19 Thread Lamar Owen
On Wednesday, January 19, 2011 12:35:18 pm Drew Weaver wrote: The kernel boots fine, and everything works ok until you unplug the monitor from the DVI port on the motherboard. When you unplug the monitor, that IRQ/ACPI message is displayed, and it screws up the USB and the e1000 card in

Re: [CentOS] Troubles for an non-IT beginner

2011-01-19 Thread Lamar Owen
On Wednesday, January 19, 2011 12:55:19 pm Les Mikesell wrote: And remember that firefox/openoffice are rare exceptions in RHEL/Centos in that they have had major-version updates since the distro release, even though they still are far behind 'current' now. How is Firefox 3.6.13 not current

Re: [CentOS] Is it okay?

2011-01-19 Thread Lamar Owen
On Wednesday, January 19, 2011 04:26:57 pm Robert Heller wrote: At Wed, 19 Jan 2011 22:00:21 +0100 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:09 PM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: the LiveCD will not install the operating system. It is purely for

Re: [CentOS] Is it okay?

2011-01-19 Thread Lamar Owen
On Wednesday, January 19, 2011 05:09:25 pm m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Yeah - I hate the Fedora way. Why not *ask* where you want to install the liveCD? Why force it into /boot, when until now, *everyone* has kept boot at about 100M or so? The last one I did from LiveCD was prior to the need for a

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, January 20, 2011 03:54:45 am Rudi Ahlers wrote: Yup, and it totally defeats the purpose of what the OP actually wanted todo. Imagine your account being busy with your year-end books, and has to run to the toilet (she is a bit sick) now you come and press CTRL+ALT+Bksp and loose

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, January 20, 2011 06:02:38 am Giles Coochey wrote: Data and Accounts are distinct, and the policies regarding their use should be distinct too. +1. The third 'A' of triple-A (AAA) is accountability. If you share accounts you defeat accountability. This has nothing to do with

Re: [CentOS] Is it okay?

2011-01-20 Thread Lamar Owen
On Wednesday, January 19, 2011 06:38:12 pm Scott Robbins wrote: Boot has to be huge in Fedora for the preupgrade to have a chance of working--having given up on it several releases ago, I have no idea if it's been improved or not. This is obviously straying from the topicality of this list,

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, January 20, 2011 09:36:09 am Ross Walker wrote: With Amazon's cloud services now I guess they'll have to cut it down to 7 days, or require finger print or retinal eye scans... Fingerprints are too easily faked. Mythbusters did it in a 'Crime and Mythdemeanors' episode a few

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, January 20, 2011 12:03:27 pm m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Lamar Owen wrote: Fingerprints are too easily faked. Mythbusters did it in a 'Crime and Mythdemeanors' episode a few years ago. I can beat that: I read, a month or so ago, how a bunch of elementary school kids discovered

Re: [CentOS] Is it okay?

2011-01-20 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, January 20, 2011 11:52:48 am m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Lamar Owen wrote: mechanism has been improved at least between F13 and F14, as I did do a preupgrade on my development/testing box, which will likely go to CentOS 6 or SL6 some time RSN. snip Could you define improved? My

Re: [CentOS] Is it okay?

2011-01-20 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, January 20, 2011 11:53:52 am Parshwa Murdia wrote: You say for SL6, would it sometimes prove better than stable CentOS? As Les said, it depends by what you consider to be 'better.' I consider them to be roughly equivalent, with SL having some advantages (mostly of perception in

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, January 20, 2011 01:57:54 pm m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: We (the Feds) are using PIV cards, which have passkeys, and, of course, the username. I prefer what I have from my employer: the RSA keyfobs. No trouble at all, *and* you need the username, keyfob and a pin. Our co-lo site is

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-20 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, January 20, 2011 03:11:00 pm Mike McCarty wrote: That does not preclude access to the machine's content. Anyone with root access should be able to do that. You shouldn't have to log in AS THAT USER in order to access the computer's content. Although I have seen in the case of

Re: [CentOS] How to disable screen locking system-wide?

2011-01-21 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, January 20, 2011 05:53:14 pm Ross Walker wrote: I haven't heard of someone lifting a latent oil print and creating a fake out of that. I'm sure with enough ingenuity it can be done. Let me repeat: that is exactly what MythBusters did in the episode I referenced, 'Crime and

Re: [CentOS] Is it okay?

2011-01-21 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday, January 21, 2011 01:09:37 am Parshwa Murdia wrote: What made me think for this comparison was the simple question why did Fermi Labs and CERN chose SL and developing but they didn't go for other distros, keeping in mind always that all the distros have their own pros and cons but

Re: [CentOS] Is it okay?

2011-01-21 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday, January 21, 2011 11:01:01 am Les Mikesell wrote: The first few RHEL releases sort of looked like the same pattern where there would be 2 fedora versions replacing the X.0, X.1 RH's with the 3rd in the set being RHEL, but it didn't stay that way very long and quickly got to the

Re: [CentOS] Is it okay?

2011-01-21 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday, January 21, 2011 12:34:57 pm m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Haven't seen the kernel break things, with the exception of *sigh* NVidia drivers I've also seen it reorder ethernet ports, but finally found the simple solution (/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ethx, and add the HWADDR)

Re: [CentOS] Is it okay?

2011-01-21 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday, January 21, 2011 01:33:03 pm m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Lamar Owen wrote: On Friday, January 21, 2011 12:34:57 pm m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Haven't seen the kernel break things, with the exception of *sigh* NVidia drivers I've also seen it reorder ethernet ports, but finally

[CentOS] [OT] old kit and kaboodle, obFriday (was:Re: Is it okay?)

2011-01-21 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday, January 21, 2011 01:29:14 pm John R Pierce wrote: $ cat /proc/cpuinfo ... model name : Pentium III (Katmai) cpu MHz : 451.031 ... Being that it's Friday (note that this output isn't snipped; kernel 2.0.36 doesn't grab the CPU frequency apparently!):

Re: [CentOS] Is it okay?

2011-01-21 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday, January 21, 2011 02:13:54 pm John R Pierce wrote: The P3-450 running my network now draws about 70 watts average per my Kill-A-Watt, which really isn't that bad. Kaill-a-watts are great little devices If you can find a cast-off Nomadix HotSpot gateway, you can save a lot of

Re: [CentOS] [OT] old kit and kaboodle, obFriday

2011-01-21 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday, January 21, 2011 02:35:40 pm Les Mikesell wrote: On 1/21/2011 1:28 PM, Lamar Owen wrote: For that matter, I'm looking for a distribution I can put on DiskOnChip and run on some embedded PC104 5x86/133 systems I have. :-) Except for things with specialized hardware adapters

[CentOS] [OT] old kit uses, and security stuff (was:Re: Is it okay?)

2011-01-21 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday, January 21, 2011 02:35:11 pm m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: I have a friend with several RISC 6000's, and of course his MicroVAX. You had a PDP-8? When I was taking an o/s class in the mid-eighties, I was on a PDP-11/780. *Nice* machine, running RSTS, I think it was. Hmm, I wondernope,

Re: [CentOS] Is it okay?

2011-01-21 Thread Lamar Owen
On Jan 21, 2011, at 2:37 PM, Lamar Owen wrote: If you can find a cast-off Nomadix HotSpot gateway, you can save a lot of power and get something more speedy at the same time. It's a custom-labelled Portwell NAD-2050; if you can find one they're neat. Lot less than 70 watts; closer to 10

Re: [CentOS] [OT] old kit and kaboodle, obFriday (was:Re: Is it okay?)

2011-01-24 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday, January 21, 2011 10:36:00 pm Leonard den Ottolander wrote: The problem with many of these special purpose distros is that they are usually poorly maintained wrt updates. A minimal install of a mainstream distro like CentOS shouldn't take up much more than a GB, and if you put in

Re: [CentOS] RHEL-6 vs. CentOS-5.5 (was: Static assignment of, SCSI device names?)

2011-02-02 Thread Lamar Owen
On Wednesday, February 02, 2011 02:06:15 am Chuck Munro wrote: The real key is to carefully label each SATA cable and its associated drive. Then the little mapping script can be used to identify the faulty drive which mdadm reports by its device name. It just occurred to me that whenever

Re: [CentOS] how to move forward/undo/revert/fix re: a failed CentOS 5.5 to SL 5.5 migration ... [SOLVED?]

2011-02-02 Thread Lamar Owen
On Wednesday, February 02, 2011 09:31:43 am Larry Vaden wrote: * The host/dig/nslookup utilities queried only servers from resolv.conf. With this update, the utilities query the servers specified on command line instead of in resolv.conf and the issue is resolved. ( BZ#561299) The official

Re: [CentOS] RHEL-6 vs. CentOS-5.5

2011-02-02 Thread Lamar Owen
On Wednesday, February 02, 2011 08:04:43 pm Les Mikesell wrote: I think there are ways that drives can fail that would make them not be detected at all - and for an autodetected raid member in a system that has been rebooted, not leave much evidence of where it was when it worked. If

[CentOS] Supermicro, SATA, and palimpsest (was:Re: CentOS Digest, Vol 73, Issue 3)

2011-02-03 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, February 03, 2011 01:38:35 pm Chuck Munro wrote: On 02/03/2011 09:00 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: But my personal box is a used SuperMicro dual Xeon I got at the depth of the recession in December 2009 Less than $500 for a Supermicro box? Holy crap, Batman! Hey, first let me thank

Re: [CentOS] system clock

2011-02-07 Thread Lamar Owen
On Sunday, February 06, 2011 04:35:48 pm Buz Davis wrote: I am running CntOS 5 with Gnome. Is there a simple way to adjust the time? Use system-config-date (in the GNOME menu: System/Administration/DateTime) Make sure 'System clock uses UTC' is unchecked in the timezone tab if you

Re: [CentOS] Ken Olsen od DEC, 1927-2011

2011-02-09 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, February 08, 2011 08:21:38 pm Jay Leafey wrote: Much as I love Linux, I'd still prefer to be running VMS on an x86 desktop box! 1.) Get an OpenVMS hobbyist media kit and license for OpenVMS/VAX. 2.) Install simh from a third-party CentOS repository, or from source. (

Re: [CentOS] how will CentOS handle the perftools 1.7 vs. 1.6 issue?

2011-02-10 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, February 10, 2011 06:42:48 am Kai Schaetzl wrote: Larry, could you please stop spamming this list with problems you see on the SL list? Thanks. This package isn't even part of CentOS. While google perftools is not a part of either SL or CentOS, it *is* in EPEL, and CentOS users

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 64 bit php 5.2 huge problem

2011-02-12 Thread Lamar Owen
On Saturday, February 12, 2011 05:37:00 pm Peter Ivanov wrote: HI Lamar, thanks for the reply. I can connect with the mysqlclient Can you post the output of yum list | grep ^mysql please? And the output of rpm -V mysql And the output of rpm -ql mysql please?

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 64 bit php 5.2 huge problem

2011-02-12 Thread Lamar Owen
On Saturday, February 12, 2011 05:59:52 pm Peter Ivanov wrote: Hi Lamar, here they are [root@host ~]# rpm -V mysql S.5. c /etc/my.cnf prelink: /usr/bin/my_print_defaults: at least one of file's dependencies has changed since prelinking S.?./usr/bin/my_print_defaults [snip]

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 64 bit php 5.2 huge problem

2011-02-12 Thread Lamar Owen
On Saturday, February 12, 2011 07:03:59 pm Peter Ivanov wrote: My mysql.so is about 50K .. is that nornal No; the ones here are three times that size: [root@localhost ~]# ls -l /usr/lib64/mysql/libmysqlclient*.so.15.0.0 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1517784 Nov 3 19:54

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 64 bit php 5.2 huge problem

2011-02-12 Thread Lamar Owen
On Feb 12, 2011, at 7:28 PM, Peter Ivanov wrote: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib64/php/modules/ mysql.so' - libmysqlclient.so.15: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in Unknown on line 0 Run ldd /usr/lib64/php/modules/mysql.so and list the

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 64 bit php 5.2 huge problem

2011-02-12 Thread Lamar Owen
On Feb 12, 2011, at 7:57 PM, Peter Ivanov wrote: ln -s /usr/lib64/mysql/libmysqlclient.so.15 /usr/lib64/ libmysqlclient.so.15 solved my problem is this file link permanent? The fact you have to do that link indicates a deeper issue; did you run the ldd line first, and can you post that

Re: [CentOS] Any update on 5.6 / 6?

2011-02-18 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday, February 18, 2011 02:54:38 pm Ray Van Dolson wrote: In an industry where one-man companies are not uncommon, you learn to never read too much into titles. :) True enough. While my title is 'CIO' it probably should be 'IT Department' as I only have a consultant and a group of

Re: [CentOS] Any update on 5.6 / 6?

2011-02-18 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday, February 18, 2011 03:36:58 pm Ray Van Dolson wrote: Obviously always exceptions but as you alluded to, know your audience is a good rule of thumb. Public Speaking 101. Also 'Linux Distribution 101' in reality; the CentOS audience consists largely of those wanting as close to

Re: [CentOS] Any update on 5.6 / 6?

2011-02-18 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday, February 18, 2011 01:39:48 pm Farkas Levente wrote: and please don't ask me to why. just to mention some very basic thing where is the mock config files? and i can ask dozens of such questions (what is did previously and i'm the only only one who send detail description how to

Re: [CentOS] BInd Problem or Update SSL ?

2011-02-18 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday, February 18, 2011 04:15:28 pm Always Learning wrote: From: Larry Vaden va...@texoma.net Our site running Centos 4.8 and 5.5 name servers was hacked with the result that www.yahoo.com is now within our /19 and causing some grief. Don't understand what you mean by 'within our

Re: [CentOS] BInd Problem or Update SSL ?

2011-02-19 Thread Lamar Owen
On Saturday, February 19, 2011 12:57:40 am Larry Vaden wrote: Through this experience, starting with a hacked or poisoned name server, or, quite frankly, the perception of one, I have learned what people really see. Having a server hacked is one of the worst things that can happen in IT; not

Re: [CentOS] BInd Problem or Update SSL ?

2011-02-19 Thread Lamar Owen
On Saturday, February 19, 2011 01:51:55 am Larry Vaden wrote: My trust in RedHat went down when I learned they are not shipping all the SRPMs. Some say it is due to human error. If that is the case, why should I think they are better at backporting security fixes than at making sure a

Re: [CentOS] Any update on 5.6 / 6?

2011-02-22 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, February 22, 2011 11:25:45 am Brunner, Brian T. wrote: We strive to present to the world a BUG-FOR-BUG-IDENTICAL distribution of the corresponding RHEL release. That's pretty well covered by the line on that page saying: Under normal circumstances CentOS will NOT add patches to

Re: [CentOS] security cameras

2011-02-25 Thread Lamar Owen
On Thursday, February 24, 2011 08:25:35 pm Chuck Munro wrote: Open-source software such as ZoneMinder works with cameras from several manufacturers, and runs on CentOS. I personally haven't tried it, but I understand it works well. I'm running a zoneminder instance on CentOS 5 under VMware

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