[CentOS] Freenx/x2go on CentOS7?

Can anyone comment on the best remote GUI approach for C7 yet? X2goserver is in epel but when I tried it on the RHEL beta it only worked with a KDE desktop due to the 3d requirement of Gnome3. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS

[CentOS] 1stboot stuff?

for license acceptance which I didn't see in the ssh login.On a more typical install, no one will ever log in at the console after the network is up. Will that matter, and is there a way to keep it from confusing operators that might need to log in with a crash cart much later? -- Les Mikesell

Re: [CentOS] 1stboot stuff?

On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Thomas Eriksson thomas.eriks...@slac.stanford.edu wrote: On 07/11/2014 10:35 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: Will anything break if you never log into the console after the initial reboot? I just installed my first copy in a VM, and connected over ssh as I normally

Re: [CentOS] 1stboot stuff?

subsequently breaks and the remote operators have to revive it from the console I'd rather not have them think missing that step might have been the problem with the box. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http

Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?

as the parent of your daemon as a watchdog that can repair its environment and restart it if it exits doesn't have much overhead. Programs share the loaded executable code across all instances and you pretty much always have some shells running on a linux/unix box - a few more won't matter. -- Les

Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?

better sense of the cost of breaking things that previously worked. With fedora, well, nobody cares - they aren't running large scale production systems on it anyway/ -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?

that happen in complex daemon software is to use even more complex software as a manager for all of them??? Remind me why (a) you think that will be perfect, and (b) why you think an unpredictable daemon should be resurrected to continue its unpredictable behavior. -- Les Mikesell

Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?

On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu wrote: On 07/09/2014 01:31 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: I'm not convinced that being open and receptive to changes from people that aren't using and appear to not even like the existing, working system is better than having a single

Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?

reasons for that. Many of which are not technical. Many aren't. And many are just a large base of stuff that works and will break if anything underneath changes. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?

with the distribution. And then having access to both Linux and native desktop programs I've tended to ignore the problems with linux desktop apps. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org

Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?

to the syntax' step. Personally I think Red Hat did everyone a disservice by splitting the development side off to fedora and divorcing it from the enterprise users that like the consistency. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS

Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?

tests and initialization than anything the old style sysvinit scripts do. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?

. If it can't, then it's not really better. It is just different. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?

On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu wrote: On 07/08/2014 11:58 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: ... How much is this going to cost a typical company _just_ to keep their existing programs working the same way over the next decade (which is a relatively short time in terms

Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?

the 'promise' rather than the 'implementation' for a reason.). If you need load balancing anyway you just run enough spares to cover the failures. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http

Re: [CentOS] Y2K not - Re: Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?

backwards compatibility now? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?

until you are past the point of mounting all filesystems so you can boot from something tiny. Doesn't modprobe need its files earlier than that? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http

Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?

of that reference realistically as meaning the people who have established systems working well enough to have built businesses worth maintaining. Do you really want to rock that boat in favor of youngsters that don't know how to make it work? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com

Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?

On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Jonathan Billings billi...@negate.org wrote: On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 01:22:54PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: And more to the point, /usr isn't supposed t be needed until you are past the point of mounting all filesystems so you can boot from something tiny

Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?

On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 08.07.2014 17:58, schrieb Les Mikesell: On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn denni...@conversis.de wrote: Also the switch from messy bash scripts to a declarative configuration makes things easier

Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?

in only the time it takes for a new client connection. With/without systemd, nobody is going to wait for a new server to spin up. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman

Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?

, compared to openvpn. generally speaking if the OpenVPN service on the location some hundret kilometers away fails because the poor internet connection their i want it to be restarted You don't have to restart openvpn to have it reconnect itself after network outages. -- Les Mikesell

Re: [CentOS] Cemtos 7 : Systemd alternatives ?

. Can't you mount /usr from a different disk controller or NFS from modules loaded from /lib/modules? Or was that already broken when user's home directories were kicked into /home? And if not, how did things get in that mess? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com

Re: [CentOS] Miredo server for Centos 6

or impossible, depending on required versions and conflicts. You might have a better chance of making this work after Centos 7 is out, though. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http

Re: [CentOS] Miredo server for Centos 6

would land in EPEL if the maintainer decides to add it. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Miredo server for Centos 6

install rpm-build' if you don't have it, along with development tools. If you can find an archive with one that worked on fedora 13 it would have a better chance of rebuilding on Centos 6. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list

Re: [CentOS] Miredo server for Centos 6

... And will at best find v 1.17 back then. I guess google can find anything: http://archive.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora-secondary/releases/13/Everything/source/SRPMS/ It might not be hard to tweak the old spec file to build the newer source. Easier than starting from scratch anyway. -- Les Mikesell

Re: [CentOS] block level changes at the file system level?

/4.0.0alpha3/ that is supposed to do deltas between runs. But, since this is about postgresql, the right way is probably just to set up replication and let it send the changes itself instead of doing frequent dumps. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com

Re: [CentOS] block level changes at the file system level?

On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Lists li...@benjamindsmith.com wrote: On 07/03/2014 12:23 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: But, since this is about postgresql, the right way is probably just to set up replication and let it send the changes itself instead of doing frequent dumps. Whatever we do, we

Re: [CentOS] block level changes at the file system level?

.Or backuppc - which would store a complete copy if there are any changes at all between dumps but would compress them and automatically manage the number you need to keep. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS

[CentOS] gdb question

is the same for both? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Google chrome vs network settings proxy?

On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:22 PM, Gé Weijers g...@weijers.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: However, I can start a chrome connection to gmail and it just goes direct (which happens to work, I just prefer the proxy which will use

Re: [CentOS] Google chrome vs network settings proxy?

On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Billy Crook bcr...@riskanalytics.com wrote: Makes me wonder what happens if a site uses spdy:// I'd expect that to be the case for chrome talking to gmail. But it is supposed to run over https://. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com

Re: [CentOS] Information Week: RHEL 7 released today

of an error but the last remaining drive will try much harder before giving up. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Information Week: RHEL 7 released today

On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Warren Young war...@etr-usa.com wrote: [*] The absolute XFS filesystem size limit is about 8 million terabytes, Isn't there some ratio of RAM to filesystem size (or maybe number of files or inodes) that you need to make it through an fsck? -- Les Mikesell

Re: [CentOS] Information Week: RHEL 7 released today

there. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] yum install to a portable location

. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Information Week: RHEL 7 released today

code would be ideal to flip through on a wide screen. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

[CentOS] Google chrome vs network settings proxy?

dialog on the first connection. Does anyone know (a) why it bypasses the proxy when going to a google site, (b) why it doesn't have its own internal proxy settings, or (c) how to fix it? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing

Re: [CentOS] Analyzing the MBR

are not aligned on 4k boundaries. I haven't had to deal with many of these yet so I've mostly just installed gparted from epel and used its defaults rather than doing the math myself. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS

Re: [CentOS] Analyzing the MBR

On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 5:06 PM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: On 6/5/2014 2:50 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: New bigger disks may use 4k physical sectors but report 512 for backwards compatibility. If you don't write 4 contiguous sectors it has to read, wait for the disk to spin back

Re: [CentOS] Analyzing the MBR

On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net wrote: Les Mikesell wrote: Ummm, yeah That's why I let gparted do the math. But even gparted leaves some maths to be done, eg since it uses MiB's it seems logical to use GiB's which means difficult calculations like

Re: [CentOS] clamav

On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 8:36 PM, Emmett Culley lst_man...@webengineer.com wrote: On 05/30/2014 02:59 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: I don't think just installing the package makes it filter mail. If you want to really start from scratch you might try mimedefang to drive all your scanning/filtering

Re: [CentOS] Odd kernel panic, repeatable

. Anyone have an idea? Did you try running grub-install after your rescue-mode boot and chroot into /mnt/sysimage? If that doesn't fix it there is probably something different about the device/naming of the root partition. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com

Re: [CentOS] nodejs, epel, SCL

On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 6:55 AM, Johnny Hughes joh...@centos.org wrote: On 05/30/2014 01:58 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: Is yum supposed to track the dependencies separately? That is, if an EPEL package requires some other package (expected with the stock paths), can an SCL package fulfill

Re: [CentOS] nodejs, epel, SCL

of how EPEL is supposed to fit in the world of 'other' repositories. What should happen when centosplus/extras has a same-named package? Other 3rd parties? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http

Re: [CentOS] nodejs, epel, SCL

not a solvable problem?Should we just expect EPEL to wantonly clobber anything, including Centosplus/extras? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Centos box and Cisco 3750 VLAN's

with the error messages you see if there are any? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] clamav

get a somewhat different and incompatible package - it only cares about the name and version number. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Tracking Open Ports

(s) configured to do it, you might try a 'grep -R 'pattern' /etc where the pattern is the name or ip of the ldap server. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] nodejs, epel, SCL

(expected with the stock paths), can an SCL package fulfill that dependency even though it will be installed in a location that won't work? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org

Re: [CentOS] new computers and monitors

also have options to port-forward inbound connections to an inside address, either for a specific port or all of them (DMZ mode) if you do want to accept them - assuming you have the admin password. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS

Re: [CentOS] Centos box and Cisco 3750 VLAN's

with the DEVICE= names being wrong. They should come up OK (but not actually work) even if there is a mismatch at the other end. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] clamav

/filtering, especially if you are running sendmail and can write some perl snippets to control it. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] clamav

On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 5:10 PM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: On 5/30/2014 2:59 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: I don't think just installing the package makes it filter mail. If you want to really start from scratch you might try mimedefang to drive all your scanning/filtering

Re: [CentOS] OEM suggestions

be using blade systems? I think both HP and Dell have blades that can go to 64 cores. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] new computers and monitors

to the outside world. If that is all you want, you should be able to use a private-range subnet to connect the boxes, and run squid as an http proxy when you want the pass-through. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS

Re: [CentOS] OEM suggestions

around $12k. If you need enough to fill a chassis (and can get a discount), I'd think that would come out in the same neighborhood. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman

[CentOS] snmp hang reading sensors?

. Is there some way to make it skip that check so it won't hang? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] xhost: unable to open display

for you, you will be able to disconnect/reconnect to running sessions. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Sorry

matter if you don't understand how to move your cursor before typing. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Large file system idea

On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 6:35 AM, Steve Thompson s...@vgersoft.com wrote: On Sun, 18 May 2014, Les Mikesell wrote: Do you really need filesystem semantics or would ceph's object store work? Yes, I really need file system semantics; I am storing home directories. In that case, wouldn't

Re: [CentOS] Large file system idea

store work? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Centos backup tools

. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Sorry

the thread backwards in the unlikely event that you do want to read the whole previous set of messages so there is never a need to copy/quote the whole thing. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http

Re: [CentOS] Centos backup tools

on the server and a stock remote rsync version accessing the target files. Or, it can use tar or samba to transfer the files, with all duplicate files pooled regardless of the location or transfer method. And it has a nice web interface for configuration/browsing/restores. -- Les Mikesell

Re: [CentOS] Centos backup tools

On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Keith Keller kkel...@wombat.san-francisco.ca.us wrote: On 2014-05-16, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: The most unique thing about backuppc is that it has its own implementation of rsync that can work with the compressed archive files on the server

Re: [CentOS] Centos backup tools

it on a different system from the one with the valuable data. However, it does have an option to generate tar archive snapshots compressed/split so you take them offsite for archival storage and you can restore from those with just standard tools. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com

[CentOS] Fwd: For the CentOS list: rkhunter and NFS

-- Forwarded message -- From: m.r...@5-cent.us Date: Thu, May 15, 2014 at 3:40 PM Subject: For the CentOS list: rkhunter and NFS To: lesmikes...@gmail.com Hi, Les, Could you forward this to the CentOS list? That damn nixspam is blocking my hosting provider's mailhost

Re: [CentOS] Virtualising legacy CentOS 4.x servers

that offers that environment (ideally UK based). Does it have to be hosted? You could run under KVM/Virtualbox/Vmware, etc. on your own hardware. If you have any internet exposure you can't expect to survive long without update support, though. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com

Re: [CentOS] Repo w/ chrome?

a) advertising, and b) making identity theft easier? I was almost surprised they didn't want part or all of my SSN If you really want your ads targeted for teenagers you could just lie... -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing

Re: [CentOS] RHEL7 beta discussions?

RHEL install steps had actually fit on the screen instead of having to pan around to find the buttons. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] RHEL7 beta discussions?

On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Ned Slider n...@unixmail.co.uk wrote: On 08/05/14 16:04, Les Mikesell wrote: On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Ned Slider n...@unixmail.co.uk wrote: RHEL7 RC shows some nouveau errors at boot on a Dell D630 laptop and wants to run the 1440x900 screen at 1280x768

Re: [CentOS] su command

in at the console. (As if 'the console' has some meaning in unix-like systems...). -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] files mysteriously changing ownership

. If it is nfsv4, then you have the mysteries of idmapd involved. With v3, it should just be the numeric id's that you can see with ls -n instead of ls -l, but keep in mind that they could be changed by any system with write access to the shared directory. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com

Re: [CentOS] RHEL7 beta discussions?

RHEL7 RC shows some nouveau errors at boot on a Dell D630 laptop and wants to run the 1440x900 screen at 1280x768. What's the best approach to getting a working video driver installed? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing

Re: [CentOS] RHEL7 beta discussions?

to digital output (spdif). The part that still seems missing is that if it is on spdif and I plug the headphones in, nothing happens.It is sort of an odd setup where the spdif jack is in a docking station, but windows did the auto-switch both directions. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes

Re: [CentOS] Disappearing Network Manager config scripts

On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 5:54 AM, Steve Clark scl...@netwolves.com wrote: On 04/30/2014 02:41 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Steve Clark scl...@netwolves.com wrote: So, have you ever had to deal with a CentOS box and multiple NICs. Especially one where you've cloned

Re: [CentOS] Disappearing Network Manager config scripts

the same group contributing new development and consuming the final product so the direction might have been better aligned. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [CentOS] Disappearing Network Manager config scripts

. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Disappearing Network Manager config scripts

, ocsinventory will have reported the last mac/ip pairing, but what normally happens is that new boxes are shipped to their install locations and racked up by people that know all about configuring windows but not so much about Centos. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com

Re: [CentOS] Disappearing Network Manager config scripts

within a card but the cards motherboard sets jump around. And yes, it causes grief. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Disappearing Network Manager config scripts

to the box you are installing. That hasn't been a reasonable assumption for anything running X, ever, and even less so with freenx/x2go. You want the applications on a stable, stably networked server and the displays out where people work. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com

Re: [CentOS] Disappearing Network Manager config scripts

On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 9:32 AM, Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu wrote: On 04/29/2014 03:05 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: There are two sides to this. On the one hand you want to be able to nail down server configurations - and probably anything that is going to stay wired. Ok, I'll bite on this one

Re: [CentOS] Disappearing Network Manager config scripts

rdp sessions to windows targets over its ssh tunnel and caching layer. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Disappearing Network Manager config scripts

network interface active at a time?Our servers typically have at least 6 NICs and it is pretty common to have at least 4 active on different subnets. And bringing up a new interface does _not_ mean I always want to use the DNS servers or default route DHCP might offer. -- Les Mikesell

Re: [CentOS] Disappearing Network Manager config scripts

On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu wrote: On 04/30/2014 11:18 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: But freenx/NX/x2go put the big picture back the way it belongs. For certain usess I agree with that; for others, not so much. Seamlessly pulling applications from an application

Re: [CentOS] Disappearing Network Manager config scripts

procedures. I think it is unfortunate there there is no standard defined for configuration files or tools to stabilize it and make common operations across platforms possible in spite of the bizarre differences each vendor tries to add. Something like posix for system management... -- Les

Re: [CentOS] Disappearing Network Manager config scripts

On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu wrote: On 04/30/2014 12:02 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: I think it is unfortunate there there is no standard defined for configuration files or tools to stabilize it and make common operations across platforms possible in spite

Re: [CentOS] Disappearing Network Manager config scripts

. And I find it surprising that NM sometimes runs, sometimes doesn't, depending on seemingly unrelated things. And I still don't understand how to control what it would do for, say, a dynamically inserted USB device. Is it possible to make it take 'address only' from DCHP in that context? -- Les

Re: [CentOS] Disappearing Network Manager config scripts

complete set of command line options, don't you? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Disappearing Network Manager config scripts

player so a typical home would only need one extra 'thing' besides the computer/tablet/phone. But it doesn't matter - you still have to configure it somehow. Do you want things to guess at your firewall rules? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com

Re: [CentOS] Disappearing Network Manager config scripts

On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 1:04 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Les Mikesell wrote: On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu wrote: On 04/30/2014 12:02 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: snip Yes, I blame all our economic problems on the wastefulness of duplicated effort in learning

Re: [CentOS] Disappearing Network Manager config scripts

. Well, you can do it that way on windows if you want. It's just, ummm, different. Like that thing we were talking about here. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [CentOS] Disappearing Network Manager config scripts

to handle all those tasks at once. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Disappearing Network Manager config scripts

and you are trying to tell someone used to configuring windows systems how to get it to a point where you can ssh in. -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Disappearing Network Manager config scripts

be forced to switch, Oh wait, that already happened for flash and chrome, didn't it? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Disappearing Network Manager config scripts

don't want it to screw up your resolv.conf file, but can you tell it that adding a USB device and picking up a dchp address is OK, but you don't want to change your default route just because dhcp offers it? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com

Re: [CentOS] Disappearing Network Manager config scripts

On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Warren Young war...@etr-usa.com wrote: On 4/29/2014 13:05, Les Mikesell wrote: can you tell it that adding a USB device and picking up a dchp address is OK, but you don't want to change your default route just because dhcp offers it? Mixed DHCP and static IP

Re: [CentOS] RHEL7 beta discussions?

they are plugged in? -- Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

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