[CentOS] irc cloak

2008-05-07 Thread R P Herrold
On Wed, 7 May 2008, James Bunnell wrote: What are the requirements to get a Centos IRC cloak in freenode? Thanks in advance. As of the last discussion by the centos group of developers, IRC cloaks were not something that was going to be generally 'purchasable' by way of a donation, as if

[CentOS] OT: Top Posting

2008-05-16 Thread R P Herrold
On Fri, 16 May 2008, Les Mikesell wrote: I'm not sure I've ever seen the words 'easy' and 'pine' used in the same sentence before. Pine has to have the most counterintuitive interface known to man. I usually hold the shift key down while using the down-arrow to move over the parts to

[CentOS] is CentOS an LSB certified product?

2008-06-13 Thread R P Herrold
On Fri, 13 Jun 2008, Nicholas wrote: Would anyone know if CentOS 4 and 5 is LSB certified? We have been offered a pass through the process by the LSB, but there has not been demand for it. I have not found any info on RH being LSB certified either. Is RH also LSB certified? One assumes

[CentOS] CentOS 5.2 is here!

2008-06-23 Thread R P Herrold
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008, Miguel Medalha wrote: Let me be the first (maybe): CentOS 5.2 is here (at least): http://mirror.chpc.utah.edu/pub/centos/5.2/ ummm ... PLEASE -- no unofficial announcements as there are some last minute tweaks still in process. as Hughesjr pointed out in one channel:

[CentOS] Java Setup

2008-07-10 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008, Clint Dilks wrote: I have been following the instructions here http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/JavaOnCentOS but trying to modify them for jdk-6u7-linux-amd64.rpm but there doesn't see to be a compatible java-1.6.0-sun-compat-*.rpm.Does one exist ? What's wrong with

[CentOS] Re: OT - Windows slowdown?

2008-07-19 Thread R P Herrold
On Sat, 19 Jul 2008, Martyn Hare wrote: Yes but Linus could be guest speaker at LinuxChix, Bill has to pay for his women ;-) hey now -- she worked in tech too -- a product manager for MSFT's 'Bob' product (clippy on steroids) ... oh, hmmm, so he _did_ indirectly pay for ... Never mind --

[CentOS] RPM Uninstall

2008-08-05 Thread R P Herrold
On Tue, 5 Aug 2008, Matt wrote: I am wanting to uninstall an rpm off my CentOS 4.6 box. Namely caching-nameserver. Is there anywhere I can look at the uninstall script to see what it all does on its way out? Run as an unpriv'd user: rpm -q --scripts caching-nameserver will show

[CentOS] Yum

2008-08-05 Thread R P Herrold
On Tue, 5 Aug 2008, Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh wrote: When i install CentOS, it doesn't install yum package. How i do it? when i haven't yum, it is like that i haven't apt-get. Please help me you appeared in the IRC channel earlier today, and were told that the fork you are runing -- a

[CentOS] ks

2008-08-13 Thread R P Herrold
On Wed, 13 Aug 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) I have the following in it: clearpart --all which is OK if I am installing over a previous installation. But for new machines it does not seem to recognize the clearpart or it is not enough because I am still prompted whether I want to

[CentOS] SELinux - way of the future or good idea but !!!

2010-12-09 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 9 Dec 2010, Warren Young wrote: On 12/9/2010 2:05 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Also, Apple dictates style; to a lesser degree, so does M$. There's no dictated style guide for Linux. That's outdated thinking. Apple's acquired some infamy among its fanboy How about this long since OT

[CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread R P Herrold
On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, A T Williams wrote: *But* I am the primary developer of a large Python application http://www.ohloh.net/p/coils [113K lines and growing] and it *is( an interesting trendlines there [soft economy, or loss of interest in FOSS oritented languages, I wonder] -- I tinkered

[CentOS] OT: programming language for morons (newbie friendly language in Open Source world)

2010-12-13 Thread R P Herrold
On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Have a look at Lua (www.lua.org). Imo it's quite readable and less snip Don't. I have literally never heard of it before, and I at least have heard of everything else folks have mentioned. Learn something that there's a *large* base of folks who

[CentOS] Building packages using RPMBUILD

2010-12-18 Thread R P Herrold
On Sat, 18 Dec 2010, Keith Roberts wrote: gpg --import-key yourkey.asc Thanks for your reply Tim. It still does not work though. [rpmbuil...@karsites qps]$ gpg --import Fedora6-GPG-public-key.asc [rpmbuil...@karsites qps]$ rpm -K qps-1.9.18.6-1.fc6.src.rpm qps-1.9.18.6-1.fc6.src.rpm:

[CentOS] Building packages using RPMBUILD

2010-12-19 Thread R P Herrold
On Sun, 19 Dec 2010, Keith Roberts wrote: # rpm --import Fedora6-GPG-public-key.asc and then that objection will be silenced Thanks Russ. That has cured the problem. Do I need the .gpg subdirectory in my rpmbuilder homedir? no - that was created by GnuPG for maintaining a keystore,

[CentOS] do i need a dedicated ip address for https?

2010-12-22 Thread R P Herrold
The question was: On Tue, 2010-12-21 at 22:53 -0800, S Mathias wrote: http://help.godaddy.com/article/1054 # Set up SSL protection on your website. is it an inescapable requirement to have a dedicated [not fix] ip address, when i want to use ssl on my domain? and one reply asseted: On Wed,

[CentOS] http://www.securityweek.com/high-severity-bind-vulnerability-advis ory-issued

2011-02-23 Thread R P Herrold
On Wed, 23 Feb 2011, Larry Vaden wrote: Please take off the blinders and realize there are lots of folks (some x% of a million or more) on this list who compile from current source in order to minimize their risks and are therefore the subject audience. and it is on topic in this venue, just

[CentOS] CentOS 5 Security Updates

2011-02-24 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011, Cal Webster wrote: java-1.6.0-sun non FOSS, non-source provided, no? This is in an addon channel in RHEL, and so far as I know we have never shipped such Of the others the wireshark update is a periodic update of some edge case dissectors [these developers are quite

[CentOS] Will CentOS become obsolete now because of the changes Red Hat is implementing?

2011-03-05 Thread R P Herrold
On Sat, 5 Mar 2011, robert mena wrote: yeah but he wants to hear from the horse's mouth Who knows what the guy really said when a reporter quotes something The 'pull quotes' attributed to me (the horse in question) by the Reg are accurate and carry good context Anyone who follows

[CentOS] bind 9.7.3 and libp11 engine_pkcs11 of fedoca core 14

2011-03-05 Thread R P Herrold
On Sat, 5 Mar 2011, fakessh @ wrote: I installed the packages and libp11 engine_pkcs11 to allow me to recover the rpm of bind depositing unofficial CentALT. is the only way to properly recompile the source rpm this in order to to safety the last holes in bind there is a fake bind that runs a

[CentOS] Watching a directory

2011-03-16 Thread R P Herrold
On Wed, 16 Mar 2011, Jason Slack-Moehrle wrote: Would anyone have thoughts? don't reinvent the wheel inotify builds and works fine on CentOS 5 -- Russ herrold ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

[CentOS] Apache/Active Directory authentication

2011-03-18 Thread R P Herrold
On Fri, 18 Mar 2011, Michael B Allen wrote: True. You cannot have multiple PTR records for an IP. I did not mean to suggest that you could. Not saying you are wrong here, but have you an RFC reference to this effect? We previously held this belief from our prior practice, but cannot find a

[CentOS] The delays on CentOS 5.6 are causing EPEL incompatibilities

2011-03-20 Thread R P Herrold
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: There are significant components of the upstream 5.6 release which are stuck behind the CentOS 5.6 release process, but are now incorporated in EPEL 5 components. Sad that -- that the dependent partial Red Hat adjunct project is not compatible

[CentOS] The delays on CentOS 5.6 are causing EPEL incompatibilities

2011-03-20 Thread R P Herrold
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011, Александр Кириллов wrote: http://www.usatoday.com/money/smallbusiness/columnist/abrams/2011-03-18-how-to-lose-a-client_N.htm CentOS has no clients to whom a contractual duty of support is owed. If SLAs, sales engineers, 800 numbers, and such are wanted or needed, PLEASE

[CentOS] The delays on CentOS 5.6 are causing EPEL incompatibilities

2011-03-20 Thread R P Herrold
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011, Александр Кириллов wrote: TANSTAAFL ... long overdue free lunch I get it -- you dont (or choose not to) understand the written word -- Russ herrold ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

[CentOS] The delays on CentOS 5.6 are causing EPEL incompatibilities

2011-03-21 Thread R P Herrold
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011, Drew wrote: Most likely because of relative cost and/or perceived value of SLES vs RHEL? Novell is essentially offering to help you while you switch existing kit over to SLES. If you're already paying for a RHEL subscription, Novell's offer may have a lower cost or offer

[CentOS] The delays on CentOS 5.6 are causing EPEL incompatibilities

2011-03-23 Thread R P Herrold
On Tue, 22 Mar 2011, Les Mikesell wrote: Building the kernel shouldn't be an issue - but look at the SL notes on the srpms that don't build with the listed dependencies as shipped - and they aren't being picky about the library linkages matching the RH binaries like CentOS is. If the

[CentOS] how can we help? was: Re: The delays on CentOS 5.6 are causing EPEL incompatibilities

2011-03-23 Thread R P Herrold
On Wed, 23 Mar 2011, cornel panceac wrote: 2011/3/23 R P Herrold herr...@owlriver.com This comes and goes, and really there is no substitute for actually 'doing' rather than talking in the cloister as i see it, the problem is while the users expectation has grown, the work became harder

[CentOS] The delays on CentOS 5.6 are causing EPEL incompatibilities

2011-03-23 Thread R P Herrold
On Wed, 23 Mar 2011, Les Mikesell wrote: It is just hard for an outsider to reconcile the statements about the build process not needing any changes or more resources with the lack of a target time. Or that binary compatibility is the critical thing with the distribution becoming

[CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-04 Thread R P Herrold
On Mon, 4 Apr 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: OK guys. Why don't you fork the CentOS project and build your own??? Why don't ANYBODY fork CentOS project? What are you/they waiting for? Whining is easy, build something on your own. Too strongly stated. I am aware of at least two private

[CentOS] Feeding CentOS build results to twitter (was: Centos 6 Update?)

2011-04-04 Thread R P Herrold
On Mon, 4 Apr 2011, Digimer wrote: As an aside, does the CentOS build environment (understanding that it needs to be built, too), able to tweet something like last build; X packages OK, Y packages failed? This was done on a trailling basis for a couple side arch's builders by me and another.

[CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 7 Apr 2011, Tom H wrote: This is the kind of answer that CentOS as a project shouldn't allow (KB's recent use-something-else email is another example) because it makes the developers look like rank amateurs. It is _so_ easy to tell others what they should or should not do.

[CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 7 Apr 2011, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: day (and I mean every complainant every day) and saying SL is better, raising blood pressure to devs (which is why they are loosing their temper), but keeps bashers wanting CentOS over the SL? I do not get it Actually I just finished an email to

[CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 7 Apr 2011, Les Mikesell wrote: rebuilding RHEL src rpms under RHEL, it should be made public and either fixed or acknowleged as the intended outcome. Off topic here as to what RHEL and its vendor should or should not do, Les. And 'self-hosting' has NEVER been a goal of the

[CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 7 Apr 2011, Ian Murray wrote: hair is best cut. My bakery has refused to sell me sliced bread because it was too hot to slice... however, they kindly explained when I should come back if I wished such that the bread would suitably be ready. No drama. and so we should tell people:

[CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread R P Herrold
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Les Mikesell wrote: But Johnny's postings seem pretty insistent on never releasing the actual scripts in a form that can be used elsewhere or by anyone outside the project, so maybe a more productive approach would be some way of oh horse puckey, troll -- it is just

[CentOS] How can a company help, officially?

2011-04-12 Thread R P Herrold
On Tue, 12 Apr 2011, Les Mikesell wrote: On 4/12/2011 12:51 PM, R P Herrold wrote: off the top of my head, here is the meta-code Would you really repeat those steps by hand if someone gave you a new server to add to what you use? Maybe things are worse than I'd guessed. You did

[CentOS] RPM build environment -- was: query on sendmail issues

2007-07-12 Thread R P Herrold
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) i dont see /usr/src/redhat/BUILD and the other 4 directories.. namely RPMS, SOURCES, SPECS, SRPMS so basically how do i install /src.rpm files Building as root is not sensible, as packages can 'leak' and pollute the host environment -- see:

[CentOS] typo on a Wiki page

2007-07-29 Thread R P Herrold
On Sat, 28 Jul 2007, Akemi Yagi wrote: A nice catch. As you know, typos are a hallmark for some CentOS developers and an integral part of the CentOS project because they make this OS stand out. :-) hey -- I resemble that -- Russ Herrold orc_orc on IRC

[CentOS] Re: Mixing RPMforge and EPEL (Was: EPEL repo)

2007-07-30 Thread R P Herrold
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007, Les Mikesell wrote: ATM we'll just live and let live, and there will not be any one-side effort to rectify any compatibility issues EPEL created. It's their mess, they'll have to clean it up. Live and let die, you mean - at least as far as the users are concerned. I

[CentOS] Re: Mixing RPMforge and EPEL (Was: EPEL repo)

2007-07-30 Thread R P Herrold
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007, Ray Van Dolson wrote: I understand how a lot of it went down (saw the meetings and am on the lists as well), I'm just wondering if that aside (I know, hard to do :), could there feasibly be an RPM-based solution to this that would make repo-tags obsolete? 'could be'?

[CentOS] Xen VM vanishes after creation

2007-08-27 Thread R P Herrold
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, Kai Schaetzl wrote: R P Herrold wrote on Mon, 27 Aug 2007 11:29:47 -0400 (EDT): cd /etc/xen hmmm -- As I recall, you noted in your initial post having built the xen images at: /home/xen. Please, could you please place in a pastebin (http://www.pastebin.ca

[CentOS] Xen VM vanishes after creation

2007-08-27 Thread R P Herrold
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, Kai Schaetzl wrote: That's so short I could post it here. But here you go: http://www.pastebin.ca/672505 test1 is the name of the VM. It's the first and only I created so far. I made one or two edits in xend-config.sxp *after* the problem occurred, nothing that could

[CentOS] Re: centos] Xen VM vanishes after creation

2007-08-27 Thread R P Herrold
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007, Kai Schaetzl wrote: What I don't udnerstand is how xend or xm determines where the image file is located. I can't see that anywhere. And the same applies to how it man xm holds this answer -- if the path variable is not set, it seems to look at the CWD, from some of the

[CentOS] Re: centos] CentOS 5 on IA64

2007-09-11 Thread R P Herrold
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007, Lamar Owen wrote: What is the minimum for actual hardware? I have a small s390 here that I've been looking for a reason to power up. What sort of access is needed? Goodness ... the Stuff you have in your closet at PARI. Best as I had roughed out plans for a builder

[CentOS] tftp-server, unable to create new files (even with -c option)

2007-09-13 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 13 Sep 2007, Ross S. W. Walker wrote: Just to make sure, is the /tftpboot directory set to perms 777? Not that that parent directory (/tftpboot) requires (or should ever have) anything like that to work -- why the voodoo suggestion? -- Russ Herrold

[CentOS] CentOS on s390; was: CentOS 5 on IA64

2007-09-14 Thread R P Herrold
On Fri, 14 Sep 2007, Lamar Owen wrote: If someone would like to donate a midsized 208VAC-capable (single-phase OK, but has to be 208 and not 240, or at least jumperable) UPS to the effort, about a 3000VA unit or so, that would help matters considerably! As it turns out, I _may_ actually

[CentOS] Installing java on CentOS 5

2007-11-14 Thread R P Herrold
On Wed, 14 Nov 2007, Craig White wrote: I hope now that java is GPL that it is packaged/bundled to eliminate this nonsense The versions are using and adjunct components people want are not GPLd -- Russ Herrold ___ CentOS mailing list

[CentOS] Installing Java on CentOS 5

2007-11-16 Thread R P Herrold
On Fri, 16 Nov 2007, Les Mikesell wrote: Ralph Angenendt wrote: Les Mikesell wrote: On the other hand, redistribution is permitted... Yeah, but there's still that indemnification clause in the Distribution License. The FAQ says that this really doesn't matter, the License says otherwise.

[CentOS] cisco vpn client on linux

2007-11-28 Thread R P Herrold
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007, Jerry Geis wrote: I then found a vpnc reference but did not find a 64 bit version. yum install vpnc did nothing What is my next step? it builds trivially from the SRPM -- it works fine here for me - Russ Herrold ___

[CentOS] centos product specification

2011-09-16 Thread R P Herrold
On Sat, 17 Sep 2011, Always Learning wrote: However, you can file a bug report against the website. What is the point in 'complaining' by filing a BUG report when it is conspicuously evident the existing web person(s) can not cope because they have insufficient time or have died or have

[CentOS] centos product specification

2011-09-16 Thread R P Herrold
On Sat, 17 Sep 2011, Always Learning wrote: Can't see any new web site on the latter URL. I'm not a Flash user by choice. Perhaps the Centos web site should be simple, practical, helpful in preference to emulating the very latest presentation gimmicks ? A larger font size will be useful for

[CentOS] Refocusing the list; was: centos product specification

2011-09-18 Thread R P Herrold
On Sat, 17 Sep 2011, Always Learning wrote: I am unaware of ever making those comments ! Check your file copy of your email to me of 25 Aug. I won't engage in a battle of semantics with an anonymous troll To all: As a matter of logistics, we are putting some new permissions in place to

[CentOS] Wiki CR Repo Link Defective

2011-09-22 Thread R P Herrold
On Wed, 21 Sep 2011, John R Pierce wrote: On 09/21/11 8:42 PM, Always Learning wrote: 5.7 has been released, obsoleting the 5.6/cr/ John or Always I am in a low bandwidth environment, and so cannot do this myself Plesae file a bug at: http://bugs.centos.org/ so that the release process

[CentOS] Wiki CR Repo Link Defective

2011-09-22 Thread R P Herrold
On Wed, 21 Sep 2011, John R Pierce wrote: What state should it be in? should that file be referenced as http://mirror.centos.org/centos/5/cr/x86_64/RPMS/centos-release-cr.el5.centos.1.x86_64.rpm ? or should there be a new

[CentOS] Wiki CR Repo Link Defective

2011-09-23 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 22 Sep 2011, John R Pierce wrote: ok, not my best bug report. http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=5136 but I guess it will serve as a placeholder for clarifications. you know, if there is not a report, there is not a bug ;) I've addressed the documentation issue already facing end

[CentOS] Migrating CentOS 5 - 6: where to put /etc/inittab respawn scripts?

2011-10-04 Thread R P Herrold
On Tue, 4 Oct 2011, Johnny Tan wrote: Like recent Ubuntus, C6 uses upstart in place of traditional Sys V init. Likely, you will want this in /etc/init/ -- note!, not the same as /etc/init.d/ I don't know WHAT you are looking at, if anything, but it is not a CentOS 6 install; 'upstart' is a

[CentOS] What happened to 6.1

2011-10-21 Thread R P Herrold
On Fri, 21 Oct 2011, Johnny Hughes wrote: On 10/21/2011 12:20 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Johnny Hughes joh...@centos.org wrote: They have created an optional channel in several of those groupings that is only accessible via RHN and they do not put those RPMS

[CentOS] What happened to 6.1

2011-10-21 Thread R P Herrold
On Fri, 21 Oct 2011, Gary Greene wrote: Trust me ... the Linux Foundation thinks it is OK, so we are SOL. I'd rather get the opinion of the FSF (those whom wrote the license) instead of LF, as they don't matter as much, really. Feel free to approach whoever you wish on your own account

[CentOS] What happened to 6.1

2011-11-02 Thread R P Herrold
On Wed, 2 Nov 2011, Les Mikesell wrote: I don't care in general, but dislike hypocrisy. If you are going to claim to be open source, it should work to rebuild. les ... go rent a forum of your own -- this has no centos aspect any more -- Russ herrold

[CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-10 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 10 Nov 2011, Craig White wrote: I just can't embrace installing an OS whose security updates have ... Then please leave -- your sustained venom and bile are not needed, wanted, nor useful here, let alone remotely on topic -- Russ herrold

[CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-10 Thread R P Herrold
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011, Christopher Chan wrote: Oh, things have improved have they? Last I tried, you could not get d-i Please take this elsewhere -- it has nothing to do with centos -- Russ herrold ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

[CentOS] Redhat vs centos vs ubuntu

2011-11-10 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 10 Nov 2011, Craig White wrote: On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 23:49 -0500, R P Herrold wrote: Then please leave -- your sustained venom and bile are not needed, wanted, nor useful here, let alone remotely on topic what venom? what bile? For the record, I wasn't the one who brought up

[CentOS] A couple of minutes on GnuPG and signing files

2008-08-22 Thread R P Herrold
PROTECTED] .gnupg]$ gpg --clearsign import-key-howto.txt You need a passphrase to unlock the secret key for user: R P Herrold [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1024-bit DSA key, ID 9B649644, created 2003-02-09 File`import-key-howto.txt.asc' exists. Overwrite? (y/N) y [EMAIL PROTECTED] .gnupg]$ 10

[CentOS] A couple of minutes on GnuPG and signing files

2008-08-22 Thread R P Herrold
On Fri, 22 Aug 2008, R P Herrold wrote: ... Hopefully this attched writeup will transit the CentOS mailing list manager intact. I also include it inline below, but this may mangle the signature. 'attached' of course -- part of the 'orc_orc' spelling authenticity test. ;) Following up

[CentOS] Re: Curmudgeoning (was Re: Problems with writing Dual Layer DVD)

2008-08-28 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008, William L. Maltby wrote: PIKER! I've mobos still running (when I fire 'em up). Although I'm seriously considering ditching the 386SX with Win 3.11. Don't find any three words: Processor Tech Sol -- Russ herrold ___ CentOS

[CentOS] Re: Curmudgeoning (was Re: Problems with writing Dual Layer DVD)

2008-08-28 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008, Akemi Yagi wrote: three words: Processor Tech Sol -- Russ herrold Ahh, I was waiting for you to show up. OK, everyone, if you are trying to show your age, stop now -- because no one can win orc_orc (Russ, our CentOS dev). Actually from slightly before that era, I

[CentOS] Re: Curmudgeoning (was Re: Problems with writing Dual Layer DVD)

2008-08-29 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 28 Aug 2008, Robert wrote: We might be entering first liar don't have a chance territory here. Do you remember where you were when Kennedy was shot? sadly, yes I was in the last Ramac 305 class ever held, on lunch break and had watched the motorcade pass from a lunchroom window.

[CentOS] Re: Curmudgeoning (was Re: Problems with writing Dual Layer DVD)

2008-08-29 Thread R P Herrold
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Jim Perrin wrote: On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 8:58 AM, R P Herrold [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you win ;) -- I don't want to be older, and in my head, I'm still in my twenties. Face it. Your golden buckeye card has a registration number of 1. you cannot escape this fact

[CentOS] Re: Curmudgeoning (was Re: Problems with writing Dual Layer DVD)

2008-09-01 Thread R P Herrold
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008, Paul wrote: Hmmm, Processor Technologies used to have a voice coil actuated dual drive that shared it between both drives IIRC. Interesting drive with a motorized eject, thing is you had to wait for the disk to complete eject before you grabbed it, if you grabbed it before

[CentOS] A new blog on the block for Linux newbies

2008-09-03 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 4 Sep 2008, Spiro Harvey, Knossos Networks Ltd wrote: A final point I'll note is that this is a CentOS list, aimed at helping people with CentOS. It's not a place to spam with ads for your website unless they are CentOS specific. * cough *nor even then --- We encounter this in

[CentOS] Compromised

2008-09-09 Thread R P Herrold
On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Miark wrote: My wife's office server was compromised today. It appears they ssh'ed in through ehh? exposed to the public internet? oh my ;) account pcguest which was set up for Samba. (I don't remember setting up that account, but maybe I did.) ssh will of course

[CentOS] Re: Centos 4.7 delay more than mirror issue?

2008-09-10 Thread R P Herrold
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008, Scott Silva wrote: on 9-10-2008 1:02 AM Josh Donovan spake the following: Hi folks, Normally people ask when is CentOS 4.7 coming and they are told when it is ready. Dag posted on his blog about it going to testing in July while it was supposed to be syncing to the

[CentOS] Alarming (?) smartd reports

2008-09-11 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 11 Sep 2008, MHR wrote: On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 12:26 AM, Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had similar messages on this laptop. Acer accepted liability and replaced the disk. I'm pretty sure the Seagate warranty is no longer in force - most of them are a year. you

[CentOS] 4.7 update issues?

2008-09-13 Thread R P Herrold
On Sat, 13 Sep 2008, RobertH wrote: Any 4.7 update issues or horror stories yet? Part of the QA which I mentioned earlier in the week was looking for problems. This late in point respins of the 4 series, however, nothing major comes to mind from the looking we did during that testing.

[CentOS] Missing 4.7 kernel update SRPMs ?

2008-09-13 Thread R P Herrold
On Sat, 13 Sep 2008, Shad L. Lords wrote: James Pearson wrote: I can't find the kernel-2.6.9-78.0.1.EL.src.rpm and kernel-2.6.9-78.0.1.plus.c4.src.rpm on the download sites - the binary i386/x86_64 RPMS are there, but not the matching SRPMs There are actually quite a few missing sources:

[CentOS] Changing hostname?

2008-09-13 Thread R P Herrold
On Sat, 13 Sep 2008, John R Pierce wrote: RobertH wrote: Marcus, Exactly, I have often wondered upstream does it that way so that I always have to go fix the /etc/hosts file after every CentOS install. Since functionally, it is wrong. indeed, having the hostname bound to the loopback

[CentOS] new list proposal

2008-10-16 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 16 Oct 2008, John R Pierce wrote: I'd have to suggest that the 'default' list (eg this one) should be the most general and beginner oriented, and any new additional lists should be the ones with the narrower focus (centos-tech, for instance, or centos-sysadmin). in my experience with

[CentOS] Threads end; get over it: was: new list proposal

2008-10-17 Thread R P Herrold
On Fri, 17 Oct 2008, Scott Silva wrote: This thread has got to have beaten the CentOS record for most posts about nothing! Or the longest off-topic thread about off-topic threads! or a sad demonstation by people who know better ignoring Godwin's Law If people are unwilling to follow long

[CentOS] CentOS 4.7 Server CD - update frontpage

2008-10-25 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008, Spike Turner wrote: totalitarian republic of CentOS. I believe an announcement All sources used by CentOS are freely available under a distributable license, as are those for patched RPMs consistent with its GPL obligation when _distributing_ the product of another;

[CentOS] CentOS 4.7 Server CD - update frontpage

2008-10-26 Thread R P Herrold
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008, Spike Turner wrote: R P Herrold wrote: You know after all this time the CentOS frontpage is still showing out of date info. Please remind me of your bug number filed on this. I have read all new filings to date and must have missed it. -- Russ herrold

[CentOS] Checking if a user is 'Disabled'

2008-10-28 Thread R P Herrold
On Tue, 28 Oct 2008, Tom Brown wrote: I need to create some local users but then 'disable' that user. I know i can enable and disable the user by using usermod -L and -U but does anyone know if there is a way for me to see the current status of the user? ie locked or unlocked? [EMAIL

[CentOS] OT - Automated rpm builds

2008-11-17 Thread R P Herrold
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008, Tom Brown wrote: Currently devs check code into perforce and we have to checkout package update repo deploy I know this could be scripted but are there any tools out there that can take code from a repository and build rpm's in a continuous integration type manner? I

[CentOS] Off-distro content; was: Stop the FUD Xen is not deprecated

2008-12-04 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 4 Dec 2008, Matej Cepl wrote: On 2008-12-04, 00:42 GMT, Christopher Chan wrote: What would you pick? Learn a few new commands/configuration files or have to prep up a new desktop rollout every six months? 12 -- Fedora 8 is still pretty good and only now you would have to switch to

[CentOS] Scriptable way to edit yum .repo files?

2009-01-07 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 8 Jan 2009, Amos Shapira wrote: I found Perl's Conf::INI module but it expects comments beginning with ;, not #. and | sed -e 's...@^#@;@g' cannot cure that bad habit on generated files or an input stream? [herr...@centos-5 ~]$ cat - END | sed -e 's...@^#@;@g' one two#two

[CentOS] Update to Centos 5 anaconda kickstart %post bug?

2009-01-08 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 8 Jan 2009, Scott Silva wrote: on 1-8-2009 1:28 PM Warren, Eucke spake the following: Is there a process for finding status updates to open bugs within Centos? -- view it in a web browser, and optionally 'monitor' it so emails of updated state are received -- offer to buy support

[CentOS] restraint; was: Update to Centos 5 anaconda kickstart %post bug?[SOLVED]

2009-01-09 Thread R P Herrold
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009, Warren, Eucke wrote: ... To suggest a shaming only makes the Centos community look bad as it would be done so without understanding the entire environment and situation. Thank you for the restrained reply, Eucke Wearing my '@centos.org' hat, let me add that I strongly

[CentOS] non-restraint; was: CentOS 4 update backlog

2009-01-12 Thread R P Herrold
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009, Vandaman wrote: There are security updates upstream for CentOS (4 and 5) and it looks like the CentOS 5 ones have been rebuilt and rolled out. How come the CentOS 4 branch lags behind, or are the CentOS 5 devs different from the CentOS 4 devs? If more volunteers are

[CentOS] CentOS 4 update backlog

2009-01-12 Thread R P Herrold
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009, Vandaman wrote: R P Herrold wrote: ... you do NOT file bugs in the bug tracker to make formal your concern. I made last month about security updates missing for almost a month. no bug - no issue. Members of the CentOS community should, in a free world be able

[CentOS] CENTOS 4.7 or 5.2 32 bits O.S. for ORACLE DB server??

2009-01-16 Thread R P Herrold
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, nate wrote: I would not use CentOS at all if for anything else than Oracle won't support it. Oracle linux is a clone of RHEL and I believe is pretty cheap, otherwise RHEL 5 Advanced. ummm .. a recent UBL was a rebuild of CentOS SRPMs - Rhss herrold

[CentOS] Dag's comment at linuxtag

2009-07-03 Thread R P Herrold
On Fri, 3 Jul 2009, Bogdan Nicolescu wrote: In all fairness to all the rebels, if somebody from the Cento's team would have responded in a timely matter to the original yes/no question of this thread, ... and an allegedly 'yes or no' question can take three and a half 24 line screens to

[CentOS] Dag's comment at linuxtag

2009-07-03 Thread R P Herrold
On Fri, 3 Jul 2009, Bogdan Nicolescu wrote: BUT... when someone from the Centos team makes a statement like ...latest release has many up-to-date desktop packages... ummm -- it is of course true that changes happen; rebasings do as well; and the CentOS project [and the upstream] document

[CentOS] kickstart install using url location

2009-07-21 Thread R P Herrold
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009, Scott Silva wrote: You can loopback mount the dvd image, but I don't think you could easily loopback mount the cd images and get a proper directory structure. A little massaging is needed and simple image loopback mounts seem 'touchy' in practice as outlined in the

[CentOS] Open Letter to Lance Davis

2009-07-29 Thread R P Herrold
indicated and of record at the customary keyservers See: http://orcorc.blogspot.com/2008/08/gnupg-few-minutes-on-using-detached-and.html user: R P Herrold herr...@owlriver.com 1024-bit DSA key, ID 9B649644, created 2003-02-09 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux

[CentOS] Open Letter to Lance Davis

2009-07-30 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Craig White wrote: Perhaps you can just say to Lance, thanks and keep whatever money, just turn over the domain name and then you can get your own paypal adsense accounts. * chuckle * I will sell you this toll bridge for a great price -- want to know how much it is

[CentOS] Open Letter to Lance Davis

2009-07-30 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Monty Shinn wrote: To those that have been able to donate money, I would like to say thank you. The project is still alive, so the money must have been used to some extent to support the project. An accounting would answer that question, wouldn't it? As the

[CentOS] Open Letter to Lance Davis

2009-07-30 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Timo Schoeler wrote: BTW: cent-os.org was just being registered: The signers of the letter have the needed domain trifecta's locked up already. -- Russ herrold ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

[CentOS] Open Letter to Lance Davis

2009-07-30 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Jason Pyeron wrote: As I have said before, I have experience in this matter and we have a current relationship with tucows. Would the team like our help? We can't and won't unless asked. The letter was done in the fashion it was in sorrow, and not in anger, as my blog

[CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-06 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009, Marcus Moeller wrote: I recently started thinking about how to make a project like CentOS more transparent and open (especially for new contributors). I have no idea what meaning to 'transparent' you have in mind -- all mailing lists of public character are open; the

[CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-06 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009, Ned Slider wrote: R P Herrold wrote: The bit that causes all the confusion here is the C in the name CentOS. It would all be so much clearer if the project would just rename to EntOS because that's what it is. Show merit on a sustained basis, and get offered [drafted

[CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-06 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 6 Aug 2009, Akemi Yagi wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 8:40 AM, R P Herroldherr...@centos.org wrote: Some people are perhaps offended that the less public CentOS infrastructure levels do not invite them in -- I cannot help their wounded feelings. ... During my 'relatively short'

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