Re: [CentOS] NFS Server Centos7

2022-05-28 Thread Frank Cox
On Sat, 28 May 2022 15:43:12 +0200
Erik Frangež via CentOS wrote:

> we are setting NFS server on CentOS7 system. Everything working OK 
> except speed, speed over NFS very drop... if we run dd command directly 
> on server we are getting speed around 1,4Gbps, if we run from client 
> connected to NFS is 200Mbps.
> 
> Do you have maybe some advice what we need to check?

Speed of network card in the server.
Speed of network card in the client.
Speed of any and all routers and switches between the server and the client.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS Linux Notifications for any changes in files or folders

2022-03-21 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 10:12:30 +0530
Kaushal Shriyan wrote:

> Please guide and suggest. Thanks in advance.

man inotify

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Re: [CentOS] vault.centos.org down

2022-03-01 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 1 Mar 2022 16:36:55 -0700
Nels Lindquist wrote:

> I've been unable to access it at all for the past couple of days, either 
> through a browser or yum.

https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/vault.centos.org

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS Stream 8 dnf fails

2022-02-14 Thread Frank Cox
On Mon, 14 Feb 2022 08:20:14 -0700
Greg Bailey wrote:

> Is there some setting for a minimum bandwidth threshold or some other 
> way to diagnose some really slow mirror?

Add the fastestmirror directive to /etc/dnf/dnf.conf

That won't give you a minimum bandwidth but it will find what it thinks is the 
fastest mirror to download from.  (Not guaranteed to be the fastest since it 
measures ping response time at the start and picks from there, but it's more 
than nothing.)

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Re: [CentOS] Add Custom Application to Panel causes Mate panel to crash

2021-12-17 Thread Frank Cox
On Fri, 17 Dec 2021 09:54:49 +0100
Leon Fauster via CentOS wrote:

> Am 17.12.21 um 06:08 schrieb Frank Cox:
> > As with most people who are using Mate on Centos 8, I am using Mate 1.26.0
> > from https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/stenstorp/MATE/
> > 
> > Right-click on the panel, "add to panel" "custom application"
> > 
> > The panel crashes.
> > 
> 
> AFAIK a better place to report would be
> 
> https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/stenstorp-mate/7406

Thanks!  I never knew that existed.

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[CentOS] Add Custom Application to Panel causes Mate panel to crash

2021-12-16 Thread Frank Cox
As with most people who are using Mate on Centos 8, I am using Mate 1.26.0 from 
https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/stenstorp/MATE/

Right-click on the panel, "add to panel" "custom application"

The panel crashes.

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Re: [CentOS] Mate desktop crashes at startup after update to Centos 8.5.2111

2021-11-19 Thread Frank Cox
On Fri, 19 Nov 2021 12:00:41 +
Steve Wardle via CentOS wrote:

> We had the same issue with some systems after the Almalinux 8.4 > 8.5 update.
> 
> Solved by switching to Gnome then back to MATE.

I've done a bit of experimenting with a few other computers and found that if I 
switch to lightdm first, then upgrade to Centos 8.5 everything works just fine 
and as expected.  If I upgrade to 8.5 first and reboot while still using gdm I 
can't log back in with Mate and though I can still log in with Gnome.

I think the easiest course of action here is to install and activate lightdm 
first, then do the upgrade to 8.5.  Everything just works.

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[CentOS] SOLVED: Mate desktop crashes at startup after update to Centos 8.5.2111

2021-11-18 Thread Frank Cox
On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 10:27:32 -0700
Greg Bailey wrote:

> > >From the GDM login screen I enter my password and select Mate.  The screen
> > >goes blank and appears to be loading the Mate desktop as usual, but just
> > >at the point where the desktop should appear it returns to the GDM login
> > >menu.
> >
 
> The only difference in my case is that I use lightdm from the 
> stenstorp/lightdm copr repo instead of GDM.

Installing lightdm from the stenscorp/lightdm was indeed the fix.

Now my desktop is back to looking and working like it's supposed to be.

For the next guy who needs to do this, here are the exact commands needed:

dnf copr enable stenstorp/lightdm
dnf install lightdm
systemctl disable gdm.service
systemctl enable lightdm.service

Then reboot.  You'll probably have to select Mate from the drop-down list at 
the top right of the login screen but you only have to make that selection once.

Thank you ever so much for the help, Greg!

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[CentOS] Notes attached to files on Gnome

2021-11-18 Thread Frank Cox
Since my Mate desktop is currently lost at sea (see the "Mate desktop crashes 
at startup after update to Centos 8.5.2111" thread that I started earlier 
today) I'm using Gnome at the moment and have a question.

Old versions of Gnome and the current Mate allow you to right-click on a file, 
select Properties and add a note to a file.  After that a little "note" icon 
attaches itself to the file and you can go back to Properties and read your 
note. "File downloaded from x" or "Talked to Joe about this on Monday" or "This 
version doesn't work" or whatever you like.  I don't know if there's a 
particular limit to how long a note can be but I have several multi-line notes 
and haven't run into a limit yet.

This functionality is extremely handy and I use it extensively.  Unfortunately, 
it doesn't seem to be present in modern Gnome.

Is there a way to get it back?

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Re: [CentOS] Mate desktop crashes at startup after update to Centos 8.5.2111

2021-11-18 Thread Frank Cox
On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 10:27:32 -0700
Greg Bailey wrote:


> I use the same Mate copr repo, and I didn't encounter any issues on 
> either my bare metal CentOS 8.5 install (after the 8.4->8.5 upgrade), or 
> on a VM that runs a similar installation.
> 
> The only difference in my case is that I use lightdm from the 
> stenstorp/lightdm copr repo instead of GDM.

Now that's an interesting bit of information indeed.



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Re: [CentOS] Mate desktop crashes at startup after update to Centos 8.5.2111

2021-11-18 Thread Frank Cox
On Thu, 18 Nov 2021 17:24:25 +
Phil Perry wrote:

> Have you reported the issue to the stenstorp/MATE repo, and if so, what 
> did they say?

Unless I'm missing something (which I probably am) I don't see any obvious way 
to contact anyone or post bug report on that project webpage.


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[CentOS] Mate desktop crashes at startup after update to Centos 8.5.2111

2021-11-18 Thread Frank Cox
I updated my main computer to Centos 8.5.2111 late last night and now Mate (my 
usual choice of desktop) will no longer start.

>From the GDM login screen I enter my password and select Mate.  The screen 
>goes blank and appears to be loading the Mate desktop as usual, but just at 
>the point where the desktop should appear it returns to the GDM login menu.

I use Mate from the  stenstorp/MATE  repo and it's been working fine until last 
night's update.

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Re: [CentOS] vice.com and firefox

2021-11-04 Thread Frank Cox
On Thu, 4 Nov 2021 14:19:24 -0400
mark wrote:

> Ok, last month, anyway, version of firefox. (Yeah, I know, time to 
> update). 100% of the time, any link, anywhere, to vice.com gives me 
> "network protocol violation".
> 
> Anyone else seen this?

Just went to vice.com with firefox-91.2.0-4.el8_4.x86_64 and it looks normal to 
me.

No network protocol violation.

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[CentOS] Intel Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio doesn't work past kernel 4.18-0-240.22.1

2021-10-25 Thread Frank Cox
As stated in the subject line, the last Centos kernel where Intel Sunrise 
Point-LP HD Audio works is version 4.18-0-240.22.1

Booting the computer with any later kernel makes the audio device not show up 
and the only audio device is "dummy output".

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Re: [CentOS] Connecting an android tablet to CentOS

2021-09-16 Thread Frank Cox
On Thu, 16 Sep 2021 11:01:49 -0400
mark wrote:

> Using termx. I go to storage/shared/Android... and "not allowed." I 
> think they've made a change in Android's permissions.

I can go to storage/shared/Android on my Samsung S8 phone.

Did you run the termux-setup-storage script as described here:
https://wiki.termux.com/wiki/Termux-setup-storage

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Re: [CentOS] Connecting an android tablet to CentOS

2021-09-14 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 14 Sep 2021 17:01:29 +
Richard wrote:

> [My android device file viewer(s) wouldn't get me into the
> Kindle data directory.]

I wonder if the Termux app would allow you to do look at that.

You can download the latest Termux from the F-Droid repo. 

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Re: [CentOS] MATE 1.20 test build for CentOS 7 available

2021-09-02 Thread Frank Cox
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 16:07:08 -0400
H wrote:

> On another note, the version that is available for C7, Mate 1.16.2, does not
> save all sessions when it crashes, nor does it save positions or session
> order arrangement on the bar. This means that every time the computer is
> restarted you have to spend time arranging your desktop working
> environment... I have not found any utility to do this for me either.

I use Mate, currently on C8 but previously on C7 and I've never had this 
problem.

I just have a single panel bar at the bottom (like Gnome version 1) and arrange 
it to suit me and it stays the way I want it between sessions.  Every time I 
log in I see the same panel bar that I saw the last time I logged in.

Is this the problem you're having?  If so you might want to use dconf-editor to 
lock the panel bar and see if that solves it.

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Re: [CentOS] Warning: No matches found for: clamav on CentOS Linux release 7.9.2009 (Core)

2021-07-19 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 20 Jul 2021 00:08:40 +0530
Kaushal Shriyan wrote:

> I am unable to start clamd service on CentOS Linux release 7.9.2009 (Core).

> ul 20 00:01:57 testdeveloperportal clamd: ERROR: Can't open/parse the
> > config file /etc/clamd.d/server.conf

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Re: [CentOS] Tracking down application sending mail in CentOS 7

2021-06-23 Thread Frank Cox
On Wed, 23 Jun 2021 21:54:02 -0400
H wrote:

> Can anyone suggest how to track down the app so I can reconfigure the mail
> address?

And the relevant line(s) in /var/log/maillog are

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[CentOS] Prevent a particular kernel from being deleted

2021-06-04 Thread Frank Cox
Somewhat related to my inquiry earlier today about the disappearing sound card, 
I just got to wondering if there's a way to "pin" the kernel that works with 
the soundcard such that it won't be deleted with future updates until and 
unless there's a future kernel released that solves the sound card issue.

"dnf versionlock" appears to almost do what I want, but it just locks a package 
to a particular version and doesn't allow it to be upgraded past that.

I'd like to be able to install updated kernels as they are released, but 
somehow tell dnf to never delete kernel version 4.18.0-240.22.1.el8_3.x86_64.  
In the normal course of events that kernel would be deleted after a certain 
number of kernels are installed afterward (as specified by the 
installonly_limit number in /etc/dnf/dnf.conf.

So is there a way to tell dnf to update kernels in the usual manner but always 
keep a certain installed version until otherwise instructed?

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[CentOS] Sound card disappears on Acer laptop with latest kernel

2021-06-04 Thread Frank Cox
4.18.0-240.22.1.el8_3.x86_64 
Sound works as expected.

4.18.0-305.3.1.el8.x86_64
only "dummy output" shows up under the Sound Preferences on the desktop.

I guess there's a kernel bug somewhere that's causing the driver for that 
soundcard to not load?

The lshw command (when running kernel subversion 240.22.1, i.e. the "old 
kernel") tells me that it has this soundcard:

*-multimedia
 description: Multimedia audio controller
 product: Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio
 vendor: Intel Corporation
 physical id: 1f.3
 bus info: pci@:00:1f.3
 logical name: card0
 logical name: /dev/snd/controlC0
 logical name: /dev/snd/hwC0D0
 logical name: /dev/snd/hwC0D2
 logical name: /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c
 logical name: /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p
 logical name: /dev/snd/pcmC0D10p
 logical name: /dev/snd/pcmC0D2c
 logical name: /dev/snd/pcmC0D3p
 logical name: /dev/snd/pcmC0D7p
 logical name: /dev/snd/pcmC0D8p
 logical name: /dev/snd/pcmC0D9p
 version: 21
 width: 64 bits
 clock: 33MHz
 capabilities: pm msi bus_master cap_list
 configuration: driver=snd_hda_intel latency=32
 resources: irq:128 memory:df1a8000-df1abfff 
memory:df18-df18



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Re: [CentOS] kmod removal

2021-05-29 Thread Frank Cox
On Sat, 29 May 2021 09:19:03 -0700
Emmett Culley via CentOS wrote:

> Seem there is no such package.  I believe because it get built newly each
> time a new kernel is installed.

What did you do (exactly) when you installed kmod-wl in the first place?  Did 
the rpm have a name?  What was that name?

If you're not sure, the what is the output from:

rpm -qa | grep kmod


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Re: [CentOS] Trying to build enca

2021-05-18 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 18 May 2021 12:12:20 +0200
Adrian van Bloois wrote:

> I want to get vlc or mplayer to work on CentOS 8. 

Any particular reason why you want to re-invent the wheel?  Both vlc and 
mplayer are available for Centos 8 from the rpmfusion repo.

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Re: [CentOS] non-functioning printer

2021-05-14 Thread Frank Cox
On Fri, 14 May 2021 22:22:24 -0500 (CDT)
Michael Hennebry wrote:

> With the Deskjet D1420 disconnected, hp-probe
> finds no USB printers (duh).
> With the Deskjet D1420 connected, hp-probe
> finds it.

The exact test of the output from hp-probe -busb -g is

The output from hp-testpage printername -g is

The relevant parts of /var/log/messages, /var/log/cups/access_log and 
/var/log/cups/error-log and /var/log/cups/page_log are

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Re: [CentOS] non-functioning printer

2021-05-13 Thread Frank Cox
On Thu, 13 May 2021 13:29:19 -0500 (CDT)
Michael Hennebry wrote:

> The first link got me to something that was Windows-only.

The first link should have got you page 34 of the user manual, which states 
that you need a program to access the print test page function.  According to 
the manual, there is no button that you push to print the test page as there is 
on many other printers.

The second link describes the hp-toolbox program, which runs on Linux and 
(apparently) will allow you to access the test page function.

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Re: [CentOS] non-functioning printer

2021-05-13 Thread Frank Cox
On Thu, 13 May 2021 12:02:48 -0500 (CDT)
Michael Hennebry wrote:

> If this machine has a menu anywhere, I cannot find it.
> Print test page from localost:631 gives me the same unending print.

According to the manual you need to use the "HP Toolbox" to access the test
page function (and other stuff).

https://www.manualsdir.com/manuals/398954/hp-deskjet-d1420-printer.html?page=36

http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/hp-toolbox.1.html

This appears to be part of hplip, which is available in the standard Centos
repository.


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Re: [CentOS] yumex for CentOS 8.3

2021-05-09 Thread Frank Cox
On Sun, 09 May 2021 14:48:56 -0500
Robert G. (Doc) Savage via CentOS wrote:

> That nux yum repo was in Frank's system. My system is all C8.

https://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2021-May/353979.html

No.

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Re: [CentOS] yumex for CentOS 8.3

2021-05-08 Thread Frank Cox
On Sat, 08 May 2021 14:46:58 -0500
Robert G. (Doc) Savage via CentOS wrote:

> CentOS 8.3, 
...
> yumex-3.0.15-1.el7.nux.noarch

Centos 8.3 is not el7.

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Re: [CentOS] vlc: - nothing provides libfluidsynth.so.1

2021-05-07 Thread Frank Cox
On Fri, 7 May 2021 15:46:14 -0600
R C wrote:

> I am trying to install vlc  and get:

> Problem: conflicting requests
>    - nothing provides libfluidsynth.so.1()(64bit) needed by vlc

https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5983

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Re: [CentOS] rsync over ssh stalls after completing the job

2021-04-13 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 23:36:48 -0400
Chris Schanzle via CentOS wrote:

> I discovered if I set ForwardX11=no (either on ssh command line or in
> ~/.ssh/config) the hang does not happen.  But why does that matter?  No
> updates to openssh.

Far out!  That's the solution!

Well, not really a solution but it's certainly a work-around that makes rsync 
over ssh work without hanging.

I discovered that you have to put the "ForwardX11 no" into the default part of 
.ssh/config.

It doesn't work if you just specify the host involved.

This doesn't work:
Host *
ForwardX11 yes
host jeff
ForwardX11 no

This does work:
Host *
ForwardX11 no

Someone should probably file a bug report about this, but I have no idea what 
package it pertains to.  As you said, openssh wasn't updated at the point that 
this broke.

If it's of any value, here's a list of what was updated last on this computer.  
The ones that look most suspicious to me would be kernel, crypto-policies 
and/or systemd.

Packages Altered:
Install  kernel-4.18.0-240.22.1.el8_3.x86_64@baseos
Install  kernel-core-4.18.0-240.22.1.el8_3.x86_64   @baseos
Install  kernel-debug-devel-4.18.0-240.22.1.el8_3.x86_64@baseos
Install  kernel-devel-4.18.0-240.22.1.el8_3.x86_64  @baseos
Install  kernel-modules-4.18.0-240.22.1.el8_3.x86_64@baseos
Upgrade  dbus-x11-1:1.12.8-12.el8_3.x86_64  
@appstream
Upgraded dbus-x11-1:1.12.8-11.el8.x86_64@@System
Upgrade  flatpak-1.6.2-6.el8_3.x86_64   
@appstream
Upgraded flatpak-1.6.2-5.el8_3.x86_64   @@System
Upgrade  flatpak-libs-1.6.2-6.el8_3.x86_64  
@appstream
Upgraded flatpak-libs-1.6.2-5.el8_3.x86_64  @@System
Upgrade  flatpak-selinux-1.6.2-6.el8_3.noarch   
@appstream
Upgraded flatpak-selinux-1.6.2-5.el8_3.noarch   @@System
Upgrade  flatpak-session-helper-1.6.2-6.el8_3.x86_64
@appstream
Upgraded flatpak-session-helper-1.6.2-5.el8_3.x86_64@@System
Upgrade  java-1.8.0-openjdk-1:1.8.0.282.b08-2.el8_3.x86_64  
@appstream
Upgraded java-1.8.0-openjdk-1:1.8.0.275.b01-1.el8_3.x86_64  @@System
Upgrade  java-1.8.0-openjdk-devel-1:1.8.0.282.b08-2.el8_3.x86_64
@appstream
Upgraded java-1.8.0-openjdk-devel-1:1.8.0.275.b01-1.el8_3.x86_64@@System
Upgrade  java-1.8.0-openjdk-headless-1:1.8.0.282.b08-2.el8_3.x86_64 
@appstream
Upgraded java-1.8.0-openjdk-headless-1:1.8.0.275.b01-1.el8_3.x86_64 @@System
Upgrade  bpftool-4.18.0-240.22.1.el8_3.x86_64   @baseos
Upgraded bpftool-4.18.0-240.15.1.el8_3.x86_64   @@System
Upgrade  crypto-policies-20210209-1.gitbfb6bed.el8_3.noarch @baseos
Upgraded crypto-policies-20200713-1.git51d1222.el8.noarch   @@System
Upgrade  crypto-policies-scripts-20210209-1.gitbfb6bed.el8_3.noarch @baseos
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Re: [CentOS] rsync over ssh stalls after completing the job

2021-04-13 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 22:29:26 +0200
Simon Matter wrote:

> You could try running strace on the hanging process so see what it's doing.

[frankcox@mutt temp]$ rsync -avv ../temp/ jeff:temp
opening connection using: ssh jeff rsync --server -vvlogDtpre.iLsfxC . temp  (7 
args)
sending incremental file list
delta-transmission enabled
abc is uptodate
total: matches=0  hash_hits=0  false_alarms=0 data=0

Leaving that sit there apparently doing nothing (but still not giving me my 
cursor back) I switched to another terminal window and did the following:

[frankcox@mutt ~]$ ps -FA | grep rsync
frankcox54002435  0 60586  3160   5 14:52 pts/000:00:00 rsync -avv 
../temp/ jeff:temp
frankcox54015400  0 67980  7440   1 14:52 pts/000:00:00 ssh jeff 
rsync --server -vvlogDtpre.iLsfxC . temp
frankcox55265416  0 55476  1076   3 14:53 pts/100:00:00 grep 
--color=auto rsync

[frankcox@mutt ~]$ strace -p 5401
strace: Process 5401 attached
select(11, [5 9 10], [], NULL, NULL

Then it just sits there with no further action.  I get my cursor back when I 
hit ctrl-c.

[frankcox@mutt ~]$ strace -p 5400
strace: Process 5400 attached
restart_syscall(<... resuming interrupted nanosleep ...>) = 0
wait4(5401, 0x7ffd45105564, WNOHANG, NULL) = 0
nanosleep({tv_sec=0, tv_nsec=2000}, NULL) = 0
wait4(5401, 0x7ffd45105564, WNOHANG, NULL) = 0
nanosleep({tv_sec=0, tv_nsec=2000}, NULL) = 0
wait4(5401, 0x7ffd45105564, WNOHANG, NULL) = 0
nanosleep({tv_sec=0, tv_nsec=2000}, NULL) = 0
wait4(5401, 0x7ffd45105564, WNOHANG, NULL) = 0
nanosleep({tv_sec=0, tv_nsec=2000}, NULL) = 0
wait4(5401, 0x7ffd45105564, WNOHANG, NULL) = 0
nanosleep({tv_sec=0, tv_nsec=2000}, NULL) = 0
wait4(5401, 0x7ffd45105564, WNOHANG, NULL) = 0
nanosleep({tv_sec=0, tv_nsec=2000}, NULL) = 0
wait4(5401, 0x7ffd45105564, WNOHANG, NULL) = 0

The wait4-etc line just keeps repeating endlessly until I hit ctrl-c.

Unfortunately, I have no idea what any of the above actually means.  Does it 
tell us anything interesting?


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Re: [CentOS] rsync over ssh stalls after completing the job

2021-04-13 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 12:09:42 -0700 (PDT)
Paul Heinlein wrote:

> Is there any chance that your shell is configured to emit anything to 
> stderr or stdout when you logout of jeff? It's fairly rare, but I've 
> seen logout messages mess up rsync before.

I don't think so.  The only change from the default .bashrc on both machines is 
the addition of "unset command_not_found_handle", and in .bash_profile on mutt 
I have xmodmap -e "keycode 135 = 0x", which hasn't changed since 2016 
according to the timestamp on the file.  Other than that, the .bash* files are 
just the defaults.  sshd_config has nothing other than the default settings for 
logout messages, and in any event none of these things have changed since last 
week and it did work then.

I wonder if it's something to do with the last Centos 8 update.  There was a 
fair amount of stuff updated including the kernel.  I just rebooted both 
machines with the previous kernel and nothing changed, so that doesn't appear 
to be it either.


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Re: [CentOS] rsync over ssh stalls after completing the job

2021-04-13 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 13:07:19 -0500
Christopher Wensink wrote:

> Try using --whole-file / -W

Using that command, it says "delta-transmission disabled for local transfer or 
--whole-file
", but it still stalls at the end so there's no change.

Since it works fine transferring files over nfs, it has to be something about 
the interaction with ssh.  (The fact that it also works fine with ssh as a 
cronjob adds to the weirdness, of course.)

Reading up a bit on what can cause ssh to appear to stall, I just un-commented 
"useDNS no" in sshd_config on both machines and restarted sshd.  I think that's 
the default setting anyway, but I made the change and that didn't do anything 
for me either.

I notice, though, that if I ssh from jeff to mutt and type exit, it logs me out 
as soon as I hit enter.  If I ssh from mutt to jeff and type exit, it logs me 
out after a delay of about one second.  I never really noticed if that delay 
was there before or not.  I wonder if it's somehow related.

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Re: [CentOS] rsync over ssh stalls after completing the job

2021-04-13 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 12:43:16 -0500
Christopher Wensink wrote:

> Does it behave any differently when adding a & at the end of the command 
> when running it manually, or running in a screen session?

Nope.  I get the same stall both ways.  Running it in a screen session looks 
exactly like what I posted earlier, and the & at the end of the command looks 
like this:

[me@mutt temp]$ rsync -avv ../temp/ jeff:temp &
[1] 15694
opening connection using: ssh jeff rsync --server -vvlogDtpre.iLsfxC . temp  (7 
args)
[me@mutt temp]$ sending incremental file list
delta-transmission enabled
bookmarks.html is uptodate
abc
total: matches=38  hash_hits=38  false_alarms=0 data=0
^C

The difference here is that I don't see the "rsync error: received SIGINT, 
SIGTERM, or SIGHUP (code 20) at rsync.c(644) [sender=3.1.3]" after the ctrl-c 
when I use the &.  That line shows up only without the &.



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[CentOS] rsync over ssh stalls after completing the job

2021-04-13 Thread Frank Cox
Here's a weird one.

I have two Centos 8 machines that use rsync-over-ssh to back up files between 
each other.  (Each machine acts as a backup machine for the other one.)

There's are nightly cronjobs that do the backing up, the commands look like 
this:

rsync -av --delete /home/mydirectory jeff:/home/mydirectorybackup

That command works fine when it's run through the cronjob.

When I try to run a rsync command between mutt and jeff from the commandline, 
that's where the problem starts.  It worked a few days ago but now when I log 
into jeff and do a rsync to or from mutt it works fine.  When I log into mutt 
and do a rsync to or from jeff it works and does the job, but then it seems to 
stall afterward and I have to hit ctrl-c to get my cursor back.

Here's a test run so you can see what happens.  

[me@mutt temp]$ rsync -avv ../temp/ jeff:temp
opening connection using: ssh jeff rsync --server -vvlogDtpre.iLsfxC . temp  (7 
args)
sending incremental file list
delta-transmission enabled
bookmarks.html is uptodate
./
abc
total: matches=0  hash_hits=0  false_alarms=0 data=26321
^Crsync error: received SIGINT, SIGTERM, or SIGHUP (code 20) at rsync.c(644) 
[sender=3.1.3]

A file named bookmarks.html existed in both directories so it wasn't changed, 
and a new file abc was copied to the backup directory.  Then my ctrl-c stopped 
the job and brought the cursor back after it stalled.

scp works fine to copy files either way when logged into either machine and, 
again, my backup-this-to-that cronjobs that run rsync seem to be working fine 
as well.  I just discovered this last night when I went to rsync some files 
manually between these machines. The last time I did that was at least a few 
days ago and it worked fine then.

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Re: [CentOS] Problem with chromium 89.0.4389.82

2021-04-05 Thread Frank Cox
On Mon, 5 Apr 2021 15:32:04 -0400
H wrote:

> Is something at Google responsible for this problem?

In one of your (numerous) previous messages you said that Firefox wasn't 
working properly either, so I'd say it's not a problem with Google unless 
you're using their dns servers or something similar to that.

It may be a problem with your ISP, it may be a problem local to your individual 
computer, or it may be a problem with your local network.

You can isolate that using basic troubleshooting techniques.

Or maybe Chromium is just plain broken.  I get the impression that few people 
are using it.

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Re: [CentOS] Problem with chromium 89.0.4389.82

2021-04-04 Thread Frank Cox
On Sun, 4 Apr 2021 21:32:03 -0400
H wrote:

> Here are two typical examples:

Javascript is disabled?

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 issues.

2021-04-04 Thread Frank Cox
On Sun, 4 Apr 2021 18:33:16 -0500
Frank Ramaekers wrote:

> Okay, I made a foolish mistake a few months ago and upgraded my perfectly
> running CentOS 7 to CentOS 8 and have been struggling ever since. 

How did you "upgrade" your computer?  In-place upgrading from C7 to C8 isn't 
something that you're supposed to do.  The best solution is/was/would have been 
to backup your data, then reformat your system with the new OS and restore your 
data.

Since kernel version 3.10 is a C7 kernel, at the least you're still running a 
C7 kernel on what might otherwise be (part of?) a C8 installation, and who 
knows what else behind the scenes.  You've apparently got something going here 
that's neither fish nor fowl; it's isn't exactly C7 and it's not really C8 
either.

Since you don't really know what's broken here, you'll find yourself spending 
an awful lot of time chasing gremlins.  At this point, my suggestion would be 
take the recommended action.  Backup your data, then reformat your system with 
the new OS and restore your data.

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Re: [CentOS] older versions of Centos

2021-04-03 Thread Frank Cox
On Sat, 3 Apr 2021 15:58:08 -0600
R C wrote:

> is there an archive where ISOs of older versions of Centos are kept?

https://vault.centos.org/

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[CentOS] Cups - weird interaction with the Internet

2021-03-30 Thread Frank Cox
I have Centos 6 machine that I use for a cups printer server.  (Yes, I know, 
but it's working fine for what it's for at the moment.)

My ISP lost its connection to the network that printer server is on.  While the 
outside Internet service was unavailable I sent a print job to the printer on 
that server and nothing printed even though the print server and the machine I 
sent the job from are on the same lan and are actually connected to the same 
router.  The job appeared to be sent from the originating machine (but timed 
out, as shown below), and running lpq and lpq -a on the server showed "no 
entries" (because it timed out for some reason).

I did this a few times and even rebooted the server and always the same thing.  
Job sent, "no entries" on the server.

The my ISP's connection came back and blammo!  All of a sudden I got a ton of 
sheets printed, everything that I had been trying to print for the previous ten 
minutes.

Here is what appears to be a relevant portion of the log on the machine that 
was sending the job to the print server:

Mar 30 13:05:06 mutt cupsd[1443]: Started backend /usr/lib/cups/backend/implicit
class (PID 951459)
Mar 30 13:05:06 mutt cupsd[1443]: REQUEST localhost - root "POST /admin/ HTTP/1.
1" 200 245 CUPS-Add-Modify-Printer successful-ok
Mar 30 13:05:07 mutt cupsd[1443]: Job completed.
Mar 30 13:06:02 mutt cupsd[1443]: Job submission timed out.

So what happened here?  Why would cups care if it has a connection to the 
outside world when it's just printing a job sent to it from the local lan? The 
connection between the machine originating the print job and the print server 
timed out even though all of the relevant traffic was going over the lan.

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Re: [CentOS] How to find out what's eating the bandwidth

2021-03-28 Thread Frank Cox
On Sun, 28 Mar 2021 13:14:16 -0400
Matthew Miller wrote:

> Is this a home network or a business one?

It's a really basic setup "routers from Staples" (dlink and tplink brands I 
think) plugged into the ISP's modems.

> You're right that you generally can't see everything from just any computer
> on a network, at least if it's switched. You need to watch from your
> gateway.

Then I'm outta luck for doing this sort of thing since the gateways are the 
tplink and dlink routers.  I thought that might be the case.

Thanks for the answers, guys!  It isn't what I wanted to hear,  but now I know 
more about this than I did before.

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[CentOS] How to find out what's eating the bandwidth

2021-03-28 Thread Frank Cox
Is there a program that will tell me what's eating the bandwidth on a lan?

I'm thinking of something that would tell me that a.b.c.d is using so many mbps 
and a.b.c.e is using this many and so on.

Or can just-another-computer-on-the-network actually see that sort of 
information?  I don't know enough about the low level nuts and bolts of 
networking to know if it has that kind of access.   I'm really just interested 
in volume of traffic per attached device rather than specific 
origin/destination information if that's easier to obtain.

This way if something is eating the network I can find out what it is without 
having to start unplugging cables and so on to find out when it stops.

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[CentOS] Festival for Centos 8

2021-03-21 Thread Frank Cox
Johnny Hughes has compiled festival (the speech synthesis thing) for Centos 8.

https://koji.mbox.centos.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=2246

I could download it directly from that webpage, but I'm wondering what repo 
it's in.  I don't see any repo listed there, and dnf search festival returns no 
results on my computer.

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Re: [CentOS] R730xd & SD card identfication

2021-03-07 Thread Frank Cox
On Sun, 07 Mar 2021 13:58:16 -0600
Gregory P. Ennis wrote:

> I wondered the same thing?  I used a usb sd card reader adapter and put
> attached it to a usb port on the same machine and used gparted to
> format an xfs partition on it.

Is xfs a valid format for a sdcard?  (I really don't know.)

I would reformat it as fat32 and see what happens.

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Re: [CentOS] R730xd & SD card identfication

2021-03-07 Thread Frank Cox
On Sun, 07 Mar 2021 11:17:19 -0600
Gregory P. Ennis wrote:

> I have used lsblk, fdisk -l, and 'dmesg |  tail' none of which
> demonstrate that the Centos 8 host is recognizing the SD card.

Is the card formatted?  Can you format it on that computer?

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Re: [CentOS] How to install XFCE on CentOS 8?

2021-02-11 Thread Frank Cox
On Thu, 11 Feb 2021 16:53:47 +0100
Simon Matter wrote:

> Are my mirrors broken or incomplete?

I just tried dnf search kmail and it didn't find anything, so I guess that 
stuff is simply not there.

I personally use the Mate desktop from 
https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/stenstorp/MATE/ on all of my computers 
and it works fine, if Mate is lightweight enough for your purposes.

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Re: [CentOS] Challenging times in trying to access oracle Linux documentation

2021-02-06 Thread Frank Cox
On Sat, 6 Feb 2021 19:05:08 -0600
Valeri Galtsev wrote:

> Thank you, Stephen. I hope, someone of CentOS mail list admins makes that new
> list you suggested. Then the heat will be off both groups of people.

Me three?

I agree that sounds like a very reasonable action and a real solution.

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Re: [CentOS] Challenging times in trying to access oracle Linux documentation

2021-02-06 Thread Frank Cox
On Sat, 6 Feb 2021 15:22:21 -0500
Jonathan Billings wrote:

1.) you assume people will clearly label their off topic threads

I think that in most cases that will happen, yes, since people with a technical 
background understand that clarity and precision are important when posting a 
question or observation or asking for advice.

 2.) as we’ve seen, those off topic threads often weave in and out of on-topic 
threads until a moderator tells you to take it to another venue.

Which of course never happens now with threads that start off discussing some 
aspect of Centos?
> 
>  You’ll dilute the usefulness of this list to the point that it will be
> worthless for people who are interested in CentOS topics.

In your opinion.  On average, this is not a high-traffic mailing list and I'd 
be really surprised if the traffic actually increased in any significant way 
since a question that might today be asked about Centos will be asked tomorrow 
about Rocky; either way, there's no net increase in the traffic, just a change 
in the subject line.

> You want a generic
> rhel clone list?  Create one and post an announcement about it.

You're welcome to do that if that's your calling.  By all means, be my guest, 
and so on.  Personally, I'm quite content using the mailing lists that I've 
been using for years.  If I really have to sign up for some other mailing lists 
then I can do that though it's not really my first choice of actions.  I really 
have no desire to run a mailing list of my own.  Again, though, you're welcome 
to undertake that if you wish and I might even be convinced to sign up for it.

> If you want to talk about Rocky or Oracle Linux, use their lists. This list 
> is for CentOS.

Since neither you or I are the list manager, all we can do is express an 
opinion.  I've expressed mine, you've expressed yours, and a few other folks 
have chimed in too.   And we'll all get to find out what happens as time goes 
on.

> If you have a question that is
> codebase specific, then just ask it without talking about the distro it came
> from, but as soon as it becomes clear that it is infrastructure related, keep
> it on the appropriate list. 

And after going through all of the above, you ultimately agree with me after 
all.

I generally read just the parts of this mailing list that are of interest to 
me, and most questions and observations that I see here are about specific 
programs/setups/why-did-this-just-explode.  Unless they're buried in some of 
the threads that I skip over because they don't seem relevant to what I'm 
doing, I see very few questions about infrastructure and the like.  Well, up 
until about two months ago, that is.  And I'm pretty sure the infrastructure 
stuff will calm down again after the big change-over at the end of this year.



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Re: [CentOS] Challenging times in trying to access oracle Linux documentation

2021-02-05 Thread Frank Cox
On Fri, 5 Feb 2021 21:53:01 -0600
Valeri Galtsev wrote:

> I agree with your sentiment, John, but the fact that folks fled is due to
> CentOS (owned by RedHat, of course) doing. And they use most logical way for
> their discussion: the CentOS refugees ask their kin in quite logical place:
> CentOS list, where they all were prospering in the past.

We'll see discussion of Rocky Linux and Oracle Linux ramping up on this mailing 
list over the course of the next year for the above reason.  You can stamp your 
little feet and say that such things don't belong here, or the better option is 
to read what you're interested in and participate in the discussions. Ignoring 
anything non-Centos and reading only Centos-specific threads will likely be 
possible too if you really insist since a majority of posters will probably put 
"Oracle" or "Rocky" or something like that into their subject lines anyway.

Again, Centos/Rocky/Oracle all share a similar-to-identical codebase, so most 
of what's applicable to one will likely be applicable to all so I don't see it 
as being a big deal.

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Re: [CentOS] Challenging times in trying to access oracle Linux documentation

2021-02-04 Thread Frank Cox
On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 12:03:30 +
Shamim Shahriar wrote:

> Apologies if this is considered unwelcome -- asking oracle question in
> centos group -- but a lot of centos Vs oracle is going on here so hoping
> this will not be shot down.

Speaking for myself only, I have no problem with anyone posting Oracle Linux 
questions, answers or solutions in this mailing list.  I think that as time 
goes on, OL and Rocky Linux will start to get more discussion and coverage 
here.  Since they are all very similar to each other, most of the solutions for 
one will likely be applicable to all anyway and if there's a better alternative 
offered on one of the others, then that's worth knowing as well.

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Re: [CentOS] RHEL changes

2021-01-25 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 01:05:54 +
Phil Perry wrote:

> Let me rephrase then. If you were installing Windows on that machine for 
> your customer, who would 'own' the licence - you or your customer?

I'd have the customer buy it, just like I have the customer buy the hardware 
today.

My usual practice is to give the customer a shopping list.  "Here's what you 
need.  Let me know when you have one."  I don't do hardware at all.  Any parts 
or repaired units that I pick up from the computer store are billed to the 
customer, not to me.

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Re: [CentOS] RHEL changes

2021-01-25 Thread Frank Cox
On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 20:17:17 +
Phil Perry wrote:

> I'm assuming your customer has the relationship with Red Hat and 
> entitlement to 16 free copies, and you are their sub-contracted IT 
> professional responsible for installation and maintaining / supporting 
> that installation.

That's a big assumption to make.

I set up systems for businesses who want "a computer that does job x".  They 
don't know, care, or want to know what it runs on as long as the thing logs the 
production or makes the press crank on cue.  "Here's your appliance", and they 
throw it in a corner and maybe someone blows the dust off of it every couple of 
years when they're going by with a vacuum.

They don't want a relationship with Red Hat", and probably wouldn't even know 
what that is if I told them about it.

"Hey Frank, this thing just quit.  Make it work again."  That's all the 
involvement they want in the IT end of things.

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Re: [CentOS] RHEL changes

2021-01-22 Thread Frank Cox
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 20:51:09 +
Jamie Burchell wrote:

> So RH could make it difficult for downstream projects such a Rocky Linux. 

I don't imagine Redhat will go out of their way to make it easy for Rocky Linux.

But there's a point beyond which they can't go without contravening the GPL 
(and other licenses) so they couldn't do that legally, and there's also a point 
beyond which they'll alienate more of their customers.

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Re: [CentOS] RHEL changes

2021-01-22 Thread Frank Cox
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 16:15:28 +0100
Simon Matter wrote:

> OL specific stuff like UEK 

Here might be a good place to ask a question that I haven't really found a 
definitive answer to.

What, exactly, is the Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel?

RHEL/Centos 8 has kernel version 4.18.  The current Fedora kernel is 5.8.  The 
current kernel listed on the main page of kernel.org is 5.10.

Where does UEK 5.14.x fit in here?  Is it a fixed/enhanced/customized version 
of the current kernel on kernel.org, is it something to do with Fedora, or is 
it something entirely different and unrelated that runs on Oracle's own 
versioning scheme?

And on that note, what does UEK do for you that the standard RHEL kernel 
doesn't?   Would the average schmoe like me actually gain anything by running 
UEK over the standard Redhat kernel if I'm not running stuff like the Oracle 
database?

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Re: [CentOS] RHEL changes

2021-01-21 Thread Frank Cox
On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 15:17:04 -0600
Valeri Galtsev wrote:

> I tried Oracle Linux. After installation it took forever to update yum 
> database, or do you yum search. Also: I didn't find mirrors... All this 
> sort of ruled it out for me. Mind that I have 1 Gbps network...

So far I've installed Oracle Linux on one laptop.  What I got was exactly what 
I expected to get, and I didn't have any issues at all.  "dnf upgrade" worked 
exactly as expected and at pretty much exactly the same speed as it does on 
Centos, too.

But that's just one installation.  I haven't done anything else with OL yet at 
all.

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Re: [CentOS] RHEL changes

2021-01-21 Thread Frank Cox
On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 13:57:19 -0600
Scott Techlist wrote:

> So this will muddy the waters for the spin-offs like Rocky Linux, or kill
> them?  I'd assume at least it would dilute who'd need an alternate Centos
> replacement except those with more than 16 servers.  Or did I misunderstand
> the announcement?

I don't see how this would create any issues for Rocky Linux and the like.  The 
new RHEL terms still require annual license activations (for every installation 
I think) and that's a point of friction that doesn't exist with Linux 
installations that are actually free.

With this new offering I've got to count my installations, track which ones 
I've torn down, which ones I've updated, which ones I've scrapped, which ones 
I'm running in a VM and which ones that I've installed on an "appliance" in the 
dusty corner to running a printing press, and when I get to the sixteenth 
installation then I need to pay up or start decommissioning stuff

Or I could use a license-not-required distribution like Rocky or Oracle and 
avoid all of that.

I've got a number of machines with certain clients who bring their machine back 
to me every year or two (or whenever they figure they can spare it and happen 
to be heading this way) for updating.  I might not see one of those machines 
for a few years; they may not have any Internet connection in the field so it 
could be interesting if the machines tell them (or me) to buzz off because the 
license has expired.

If there were no other options then I guess there would have to be a way 
figured out to make this work anyway, but there are options and those options 
are certainly more attractive than dealing with license activations and all of 
the joy surrounding that sort of thing.

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Re: [CentOS] Reboot/shutdown without login

2021-01-11 Thread Frank Cox
On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 10:23:04 -0800
Kenneth Porter wrote:

> Now I'd like to allow someone to 
> shut it down at the console without logging in.

How do you want the person to shut it down without logging in?  Some computers 
have a "smart" power switch pushbutton that you can program to do a shutdown or 
a reboot depending on how long you hold the button down.  Otherwise you'll need 
at least a keyboard, or possibly something like a joystick or a mouse button?

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS Stream suitability as a production webserver

2021-01-05 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 21:32:18 +
Jamie Burchell wrote:

> The uncertainty is frustrating and unsettling.

I certainly agree with you on this point!

Personally, while I haven't made an actual decision on which way I'm going with 
my own projects, I'm currently leaning toward Oracle Linux.  I installed it on 
a laptop a couple of days ago and what I got was exactly what I get when I 
install Centos on a laptop.  Even my little script to convert a stock 
installation into my custom setup worked as-is, and what I ended up with was 
exactly what I was expecting to see.

I don't have any particular love for Oracle, but since they pay X number of 
people to keep Oracle Linux current with RHEL and updated, they shouldn't have 
any problems with burn-out or a lack of long-term interest on the part of 
volunteers that may (or may not) become an issue over the course of time with a 
community-driven distribution like Rocky.

But for the moment I'm more-or-less just sitting on my hands, waiting to see 
how all of this shakes out over the course of the next few months before I take 
any action to change anything.

Frankly, I'm kind of hoping that Rocky turns out to be "the new Centos", but it 
seems too early in the game to make the decision to depend on it.  That may 
change over the course of the next few months.

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Re: [CentOS] Recover removed data in XFS

2021-01-05 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 17:15:49 +
Gestió Servidors wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I manage an HPC Cluster that runs CentOS-7 and shares some mount points. All
> shares are formated in XFS. Is there anyway to recover removed data? 

https://xfs.org/index.php/XFS_FAQ#Q:_Does_the_filesystem_have_an_undelete_capability.3F

There's also this, but I don't know anything about it:

https://github.com/ianka/xfs_undelete

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Re: [CentOS] Out of office: "CentOS Digest, Vol 191, Issue 26"

2020-12-26 Thread Frank Cox
On Sat, 26 Dec 2020 12:25:50 -0600
Valeri Galtsev wrote:

> Then let's make a little contest out of it: what's the most stupid thing 
> you've
> done as a system administrator ?

Cleaning up some obsolete users on a system that accepts remote ssh logins and 
somehow managing to remove my own ssh key too.  Which I discovered about ten 
minutes later when I went to log in again and found that I had locked myself 
out.

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Re: [CentOS] Out of office: "CentOS Digest, Vol 191, Issue 26"

2020-12-26 Thread Frank Cox
On Sat, 26 Dec 2020 13:36:19 +0100
Nicolas Kovacs wrote:

> Am I the only one feeling a strong urge to blood-eagle out-of-office repliers
> on public mailing lists ?

You can't. He's out of the office.

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Re: [CentOS] Gnote equivalent in CentOS 8

2020-12-24 Thread Frank Cox
On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 11:04:26 -0600
Robert Nichols wrote:

> In CentOS 8, is there an equivalent for the gnote application?

I personally use vimwiki.

Have you tried compiling the Fedora srpm on your Centos box?  A lot of stuff 
that you might want to install on Centos can be compiled with few or no changes 
in many cases.

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Re: [CentOS] Sound/missing sof firmware in CentOS since 8.4

2020-12-22 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 22 Dec 2020 15:56:49 -0800
Kay Schenk wrote:

> Now on to other issues -- playing .wav files without benefit of GUI.

sox-14.4.2.0-29.el8.x86_64

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Re: [CentOS] Software raid Oddity

2020-12-16 Thread Frank Cox
On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 13:57:13 -0700
Paul R. Ganci via CentOS wrote:

> My gut suggests that the raid array was never degraded and that my 
> system (i.e. cat /proc/mdstat) was lying to me. Any Opinions?

I wonder if it's a ram failure in either the main computer or the drive 
controller.  An intermittent ram failure (or cold solder joint or something 
equally hard to track down) could cause all manner of un-repeatable weirdness.

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Re: [CentOS] Oracle Linux - oracle-epel vs epel - dnf priority

2020-12-14 Thread Frank Cox
On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 13:57:53 -0500
Stephen John Smoogen wrote:

> Having done this for years.. choose one or the other. Do NOT mix the two.
...
> In the case of nearly 1:1 repos, you
> will end up with it working 95%-99% of the time and then burning down the
> house.

That's pretty much what I was afraid of.

I guess the smart move would be to run OL along with the fedora-epel and not 
bother with the oracle-epel then.

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[CentOS] Oracle Linux - oracle-epel vs epel - dnf priority

2020-12-14 Thread Frank Cox
I'd like to run this by you guys and get your opinion.

For those of us who are considering moving to Oracle Linux (or at least doing 
some experimenting with it), I just had an idea for dealing with the fact that 
the oracle-el-epel apparently doesn't have all of the packages that are in the 
fedora-el-epel that we all know and love.

It makes sense to me to use the oracle epel with OL to the greatest extent 
possible simply because it's part of OL.

To get around the missing package issue, what about setting up both oracle-epel 
and fedora-epel, and then using the dnf priorities to pick the stuff from 
oracle-epel first and if it's not there then grab it from fedora-epel.

One issue that I can see (though it may not be an actual issue) is the way the 
priorities setting works:

QUOTE:
priority
integer
The priority value of this repository, default is 99. If there is more than 
one candidate package for a particular operation, the one from a repo with the 
lowest priority value is picked, possibly despite being less convenient 
otherwise (e.g. by being a lower version).
END OF QUOTE

By setting fedora-epel to a lower priority, the if a package we want is only in 
fedora-epel, we'll grab it from there.  But if that package has a dependency on 
another package version X  that can be found in fedora-epel and for some reason 
oracle-epel supplies only package version X-1, what happens then?  Is dnf smart 
enough to pick the higher-versioned (and required) package from fedora-epel 
even though it has a lower priority.

I'll try to explain that again.

I want to install Foo, which is only in fedora-epel.

Foo requires Bar version 2.0.

Bar 2.0 exists in fedora-epel, but oracle-epel has only Bar version 1.0.

What happens then?  Does dnf see that Foo requires Bar-2.0 and get it from 
fedora-epel even though it has a lower priority?

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[CentOS] Oracle Linux 8 - short experiment with install and basic setup of Mate Desktop

2020-12-12 Thread Frank Cox
So after reading other folks' opinions of an Oracle Linux 8 (thanks again, 
Nicolas!) trial installation, I decided to crank up a Virtual Box session and 
try an install myself.

As others have stated, what you get when you install OL8 is identical in every 
way to what you see when installing Centos 8; literally the only difference is 
the logo and the default desktop background.   There are no demands for 
registration or anything else when you install OL8.  It's exactly the same 
experience as installing Centos 8.

Since I use Mate on my computers (installed from 
https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/stenstorp/MATE/ ) I immediately decided 
to see if I can get that going.

I ran into two small issues, both easily dealt with.

First, the PowerTools repo doesn't seem to exist under that name on OL8.  It's 
called ol8_codeready_builder, for some reason. "dnf-config-manager 
--set-enabled ol8_codeready_builder" works fine and gets us where we need to be.

A slightly more serious issue is that the oracle-epel, found through the rpm 
named oracle-epel-release-el8, appears to be less complete that the original 
Fedora epel found at 
https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/epel/epel-release-latest-8.noarch.rpm.  Mate 
requires ImageMagick as a dependency for caja-image-converter and if you have 
oracle-epel installed it can't find ImageMagick.

The solution (at least the solution that I used, which worked) is just to 
delete the oracle-epel-release-el8 rpm and install epel-release-latest-8 rpm 
instead.

Then the Mate desktop can be installed on OL8 from the copr rpms listed above.

Ultimately, the take-away here seems to be that if you decide to use OL8 
instead of Centos 8 you'll be better advised to stick with "real" epel and not 
the oracle epel since there appears to be at least some stuff missing on the 
oracle epel.

After I jumped through those minor hoops, what I ended up with was an Oracle 
Linux 8 installation with a Mate desktop and literally everything looks and 
works identical to what I already have with Centos 8.

(An issue that I haven't seen anyone address yet is this.  It's my 
understanding that epel builds their stuff on the current RHEL.  Therefore the 
upcoming Centos Stream might get out-of-sync with whatever epel is building on 
at any given point in time.)

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Re: [CentOS] Is Oracle a real alternative to Centos?

2020-12-12 Thread Frank Cox
On Sat, 12 Dec 2020 18:29:08 +0100
Nicolas Kovacs wrote:

> Here's my take on it:
> 
> https://blog.microlinux.fr/migration-centos-oracle-linux/

That's a really excellent article, Nicholas.

Thanks ever so much for posting about your experience.

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Re: [CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux

2020-12-11 Thread Frank Cox
On Fri, 11 Dec 2020 18:06:36 +0100
Nicolas Kovacs wrote:

> I've just had a conversation with one of the Oracle Linux guys. I can't really
> quote him publicly, but since I've already had some good experiences with OL
> ten years ago (when I installed the local motorway company's servers), I guess
> I'll just adopt a pragmatic approach and gradually move my servers to Oracle
> Linux.

I would be very interested in any observations or insights you can offer in 
regard to Oracle Linux and your experiences with it.

> BTW, migration script works nicely on 7.x and 8.x:
> 
> https://github.com/oracle/centos2ol

Now that's an extremely useful thing to know.

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Re: [CentOS] Is Oracle a real alternative to Centos?

2020-12-10 Thread Frank Cox
On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 17:34:55 +0100
Gianluca Cecchi wrote:

> But also Virtual Box is just, you know... Oracle...  ;-)
> 
> Sorry, I couldn't resist

Yeah, I was thinking exactly that when I typed that sentence, too.  :)

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Re: [CentOS] Is Oracle a real alternative to Centos?

2020-12-10 Thread Frank Cox
On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 17:21:43 +0100
Nicolas Kovacs wrote:

> Le 10/12/2020 à 17:18, Frank Cox a écrit :
> > Is it just the part at the bottom that says "Free to use, free to download,
> > free to update. Always."
> 
> That's it. I know Oracle's history, but I think for Oracle Linux, they may be
> much better than their reputation.
> 
> I'm currently fiddling around with it, and I like it very much. Plus there's a
> nice script to turn an existing CentOS installation into an Oracle Linux
> system.

Ok, thanks!  

I think I'll play with it in a Virtual Box installation and see what goes on.

It does look interesting.  It's just, you know... Oracle


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Re: [CentOS] Is Oracle a real alternative to Centos?

2020-12-10 Thread Frank Cox
On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 10:17:04 +0100
Nicolas Kovacs wrote:

> Le 09/12/2020 à 17:52, Frank Cox a écrit :
> > Is it necessary to create an Oracle account to do anything with Oracle Linux
> > that can't be done without creating an account?  In other words, does Oracle
> > Linux demand that you log into Oracle to complete an installation, update
> > that installation, install software from their epel-equivalent, or do any
> > other of the regular sysadmin activities that one would expect to be doing?
> > If I start installing Oracle Linux on my machines or my client's machines,
> > what benefit do I get by signing up for an Oracle account that I don't have
> > if I don't sign up for one?
> 
> https://twitter.com/microlinux_eu/status/1336962009338933248

The image posted at that link is so blurred out that I just can't manage to 
read it.  Is it just the part at the bottom that says "Free to use, free to 
download, free to update. Always." that I'm supposed to see or is there 
something more there?

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[CentOS] dnf script to cherry pick updates and maintain RHEL compatibility

2020-12-09 Thread Frank Cox
Here's an idea, though I don't know if it would be practical.

I assume that at some point everything that goes into RHEL and its "official" 
updates travels through the Stream ecosystem beforehand.

So what about the idea of maintaining (somewhere) a list of official updates to 
RHEL as they are released, and then have some kind of a dnf enhancement or 
script that reads that list and updates a local Centos installation using only 
the rpms on the list and ignoring everything else.  Stuff that's released to 
Stream would be downloaded and installed at the point where it has been 
released for RHEL and not before.

That would (I think) keep your Centos installation in sync with RHEL.

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Re: [CentOS] Is Oracle a real alternative to Centos?

2020-12-09 Thread Frank Cox
On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 11:18:25 +0100
Rainer Traut wrote:

> > Based on my extremely limited knowledge around Oracle Linux, it sounds like
> > that might be a go-to solution for Centos refugees.
> >
> > But is it, really?
> >
> 
> Yes, it is better than Centos and in some aspects better than RHEL:
> 
> - faster security updates than Centos, directly behind RHEl
> - better kernels than RHEL and CentOS (UEKs) wih more features
> - free to download (no subscription needed):
> https://yum.oracle.com/oracle-linux-isos.html
> - free to use:
> https://yum.oracle.com/oracle-linux-8.html
> - massive amount of extra packes and full rebuild of EPEL (same link):
> https://yum.oracle.com/oracle-linux-8.html

You sound like you know what's what with Oracle Linux, so here are a few 
follow-up questions.

Someone else on this list said that the reason he stopped installing it was 
because every time he did, he got snowed under with sales calls from Oracle.  
Have you found this to be the case?

Is it necessary to create an Oracle account to do anything with Oracle Linux 
that can't be done without creating an account?  In other words, does Oracle 
Linux demand that you log into Oracle to complete an installation, update that 
installation, install software from their epel-equivalent, or do any other of 
the regular sysadmin activities that one would expect to be doing? If I start 
installing Oracle Linux on my machines or my client's machines, what benefit do 
I get by signing up for an Oracle account that I don't have if I don't sign up 
for one?

Does Oracle Linux have a free support and discussion mailing list similar to 
this one?

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Re: [CentOS] https://blog.centos.org/2020/12/future-is-centos-stream/

2020-12-08 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 22:12:50 +0100
Nicolas Kovacs wrote:

> A colleague of mine - the most proficient admin I personally know - already
> decided to move to Oracle Linux. And I'm currently considering it as an
> option.

This sounds like a reasonable path forward, but I wonder if Oracle will simply 
follow Centos into the same "stream" thing.

Prior to this point it's been a difference without any difference, but I wonder 
if Oracle actually re-creates RHEL or if they re-create Centos.

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[CentOS] Is Oracle a real alternative to Centos?

2020-12-08 Thread Frank Cox
Is Oracle a real alternative to Centos?  I'm asking because genuinely don't 
know; I've never paid any attention to Oracle's Linux offering before now.

But today I've seen a couple of the folks here mention Oracle Linux and I see 
that Oracle even offers a script to convert Centos 7 to Oracle.  Nothing about 
Centos 8 in that script, though.

https://linux.oracle.com/switch/centos/

That page seems to say that Oracle Linux is everything that Centos was prior to 
today's announcement.

But someone else here just said that the first thing Oracle Linux does is to 
sign you up for an Oracle account.

So, for people who know a lot more about these things than I do, what's the 
downside of using Oracle Linux versus Centos?  I assume that things like 
epel/rpmfusion/etc will work just as they do under Centos since it's supposed 
to be bit-for-bit compatible like Centos was.  What does the "sign up with 
Oracle" stuff actually do, and can you cancel, avoid, or strip it out if you 
don't want it?

Based on my extremely limited knowledge around Oracle Linux, it sounds like 
that might be a go-to solution for Centos refugees.

But is it, really?

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Re: [CentOS] Selecting a Desktop

2020-12-05 Thread Frank Cox
gdm allows that.  Click the little gear beside the login button and select the 
desktop you want.  (The little gear shows up only when more than one desktop is 
actually installed and available for use.)

On Sat, 05 Dec 2020 15:37:05 -0800
david wrote:

> Folks
> 
> Some of my users like GNOME, some like XFCE, and there's even a MATE 
> lover out there.  And some would like to change desktops from time to 
> time.  Is there some way to allow a user to choose her own 
> desktop?  I can envision at least two ways this might be done:
> 
> 1)  Present a user with a command-line login, and have a program 
> (let's call it 'gui') so the user could type in "gui g" for gnome, 
> "gui m' for mate, and so on.
> 
> 2)  Present a uses with a gui login-in screen, which also includes a 
> desktop selector.
> 
> Of course, it would only offer those desktops which are installed.
> 
> Is there such?
> 
> Gui-Confused
> 
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Re: [CentOS] Desktop Over NFS Home Blocked By Firewalld

2020-11-20 Thread Frank Cox
On Fri, 20 Nov 2020 12:07:40 -0500
Michael B Allen wrote:

> So TCP src 760 to 41285. What's that?

Apparently "that" is what you need to allow in order for your desktop to work.

What it is actually doing, I'm not sure.  Google tells me that port 760 has 
something to do with  Kerberos registration.

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Re: [CentOS] Desktop Over NFS Home Blocked By Firewalld

2020-11-20 Thread Frank Cox
On Fri, 20 Nov 2020 11:05:25 -0500
Michael B Allen wrote:

> So firewalld is blocking something that the Fedora desktop needs. What
> is it? What services do I need to add to firewalls?

https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/enable-firewalld-logging-for-denied-packets-on-linux/

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Re: [CentOS] Help with VirtualBox on CentOS 7

2020-11-18 Thread Frank Cox
On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 16:46:43 -0500
Jerry Geis wrote:

> When I run Virtualbox my VM does not show. So I
> desire to add it back.

My Centos 8 Virtualbox image directory contains the following files:

$ ls -R
.:
'Centos 8.vbox'  'Centos 8.vbox-prev'  'Centos 8.vdi'   Logs   Snapshots

./Logs:
VBox.log  VBox.log.1  VBox.log.2  VBox.log.3

./Snapshots:
2020-11-06T23-19-52-568532000Z.sav  {be3832a9-9a12-474b-b1dc-74841335520a}.vdi

You don't appear to have any .vbox or .vdi files in your directory, so whatever 
you have ain't Virtualbox.

It says vmware in your log filenames, so maybe you should be setting up vmware 
instead of Virtualbox. (They are different things.)



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Re: [CentOS] yum update security updates only

2020-11-13 Thread Frank Cox
On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 15:52:08 -0800
Eric Chennells wrote:

> Does anyone know what's going on here?

That is unsupported by Centos.  So the short answer is, you can't do that.

Any particular reason you can't just update your system fully?

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Re: [CentOS] Style Guide for ASCII Text Documents ?

2020-11-05 Thread Frank Cox
On Fri, 6 Nov 2020 07:37:26 +0100
Nicolas Kovacs wrote:

> Can anyone on this list recommend a good style guide for formatting technical
> documentation (HOWTOs related to CentOS servers) using ASCII text only ?

Lyx article and export the result as plain text?

That would kind of force a pretty robust format onto your document.


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Re: [CentOS] Run as root on reboot

2020-10-28 Thread Frank Cox
On Wed, 28 Oct 2020 16:34:32 -0700
david wrote:

> Is there a way to reboot and have a script run without 
> intervention. 

rc.local

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Re: [CentOS] X defaults

2020-10-27 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 13:47:40 -0400
Stephen John Smoogen wrote:

> I would ask if it happens if you
> run CentOS-8 (try via a live cd) on the box.

Is a Centos 8 live image available anywhere?

I would love to have one for hardware compatibility testing when looking for 
new laptops and such.

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[CentOS] Network Manager - rotate connection profile

2020-10-26 Thread Frank Cox
I wasn't sure what to call this in the subject line, but here's my issue.

I have an occasional need to switch a few computers from one Internet provider 
to a different one.  Both Internet providers feed into the same network, one at 
192.168.0.1 and the other at 192.168.0.254.

So to change from one provider to the other I run nmtui to change the gateway 
and dns server addresses, then deactivate and reactivate the connection and I'm 
done.

It's just takes a few minutes, but I'm wondering if there's a way to automate 
this a bit so instead of having to run nmtui and change all of those numbers, 
then deactivate and reactivate the connection, I could just have each 
configuration saved as a text file or something, and just tell network manager 
"use this configuration now until further notice."

I could, of course, accomplish this using dhcp and change the dhcp server 
configurations as needed, but  I'd prefer to have all of this stuff stored on 
each local machine like it is now.  That way I could even automate it with a 
cronjob or something if I wanted to get that efficient.

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Re: [CentOS] @Microknoppix

2020-10-26 Thread Frank Cox
On Mon, 26 Oct 2020 12:35:33 -0500 (CDT)
Michael Hennebry wrote:

> but now my LXterms all have hennebry@Microknoppix on top.
> WTF? How did that happen?
> How do I fix it?

Wild guess: PROMPT_COMMAND was changed in  /etc/bashrc or ~/.bashrc

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Re: [CentOS] Torrent d/l package for C7

2020-10-25 Thread Frank Cox
On Sun, 25 Oct 2020 14:57:29 -0400
mark wrote:

> yum list \*torrent\* gives me several torrent d/lers. Any 
> recommendations?

The only one I've ever used is transmission.  Which worked fine.

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Re: [CentOS] Firefox 78 under CentOS 6 -- no sound?

2020-10-20 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 15:45:54 -0400 (EDT)
Robert Heller wrote:

> Does FF 78 sound work properly in CentOS 7 and 8? 

firefox-78.2.0-2.el8_2.x86_64

Working fine for me here on several computers.

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Re: [CentOS] ::1 in /var/log/httpd/access_log on CentOS 7

2020-10-13 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 13 Oct 2020 11:48:11 -0400
Jerry Geis wrote:

> I see "MANY" of these
> ::1 - - [13/Oct/2020:10:46:08 -0500] "OPTIONS * HTTP/1.0" 200 - "-"
> "Apache/2.4.6 (CentOS) OpenSSL/1.0.2k-fips mod_fcgid/2.3.9 (internal dummy
> connection)"
> 
> in the log file.   This is not me connecting as ::1 is localhost.
> 
> What is this - how might I stop it ?

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/HTTPD/InternalDummyConnection

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Re: [CentOS] No sound after latest Firefox update (firefox-78.3.0-1.el6.centos.x86_64)

2020-10-01 Thread Frank Cox
On Thu, 1 Oct 2020 12:10:18 -0500
Robert Nichols wrote:

> I absolutely cannot tolerate CentOS-8.

I have installed Mate from here on all of my computers:

https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/stenstorp/MATE/

It works fine and I have the desktop that I'm used to.

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Re: [CentOS] Logitech C922 webcam

2020-09-29 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 13:30:30 -0400
H wrote:

> Just installed the above USB webcam but it is not recognized by dmesg | grep
> usb, nor does Zoom recognize it.

tail -f /var/log/messages

plug in the camera

What do you see?

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS Linux updates released (RSS Feeds)

2020-09-21 Thread Frank Cox
On Mon, 21 Sep 2020 09:24:57 -0500
Johnny Hughes wrote:

> As you may or may not know, we do not have the ability to currently
> announce CentOS Linux 8 announcements on the CentOS Annonuce Mailing
> List.  We would like to add this in the future.  For now, what we do
> have is an RSS feed for all updates that get released.

Have you considered using rss2email to post the feed into an email, i.e. Centos 
Announce Mailing List?

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Re: [CentOS] A Request to Add module to CentOS Linux (3.10.0-1127.18.2.el7.x86_64) 7 (Core)

2020-09-11 Thread Frank Cox
On Thu, 10 Sep 2020 23:27:14 -0700
John Pierce wrote:

> I googled the module name, it appears to be something new from kernel 5.x
> ?   Backporting that to 3.10 is likely a massive job.

According to this webpage: https://mininet-wifi.github.io/sixlowpan/

"6LoWPAN is supported by Mininet-WiFi thanks to the fakelb and mac802154_hwsim 
module. Both modules have been developed to support 6lowpan, but 
mac802154_hwsim (which is supported from Linux Kernel version 4.18) is 
gradually replacing fakelb."

Since Centos 8 is on Kernel 4.18, maybe it's already native there.

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Re: [CentOS] C8 - Register with Red Hat

2020-08-17 Thread Frank Cox
On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 17:49:29 -0500
Gregory P. Ennis wrote:

> What appears is below.

Removing dependent packages is required.  Removing unused dependencies is 
optional.

dnf remove *subscription* --noautoremove

should remove the dependent packages but keep thee unused dependencies if you 
want them.

There's also a setting in /etc/dnf/dnf.conf to set the default behaviour of the 
autoremove function.

Having said that, I don't have any of those packages in your list on my system 
and it's working fine.  So removing them (probably) won't break anything.

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Re: [CentOS] C8 - Register with Red Hat

2020-08-17 Thread Frank Cox
On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 17:03:24 -0500
Gregory P. Ennis wrote:

> I downloaded a Centos 8 image file :
> 
> CentOS-8.1.1911-x86_64-dvd1.iso
> 
> then I installed it as a kvm guest on a Centos 7 host machine.
> 
> I installed a lot of the software; gui and server to give it a test drive.
> 
> Nothing unusual about what I did  that I can identify.

And the message came up when you what?  What action do you take immediately 
prior to this message appearing?

The message appears on the desktop?  Login screen?  When you open a terminal 
window?

I have cleaned up a lot of stuff on my C8 machines that I don't need, but on my 
main computer (this one) "rpm -qa | grep subscription" gives me no output, so 
you might want to "dnf remove *subscription* and see what happens.

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Re: [CentOS] C8 - Register with Red Hat

2020-08-17 Thread Frank Cox
On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 16:37:20 -0500
Gregory P. Ennis wrote:

> "This system is not registered to Red Hat Subscription Management. You can use
> subscription-manager to register."

It sounds like you have something installed that doesn't need to be or 
shouldn't be installed.   Under what circumstances does that message appear?  I 
haven't seen it on any of my C8 systems, so far at least.


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Re: [CentOS] Centos 7 shim fix failed

2020-08-04 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 04 Aug 2020 13:44:05 -0700
david wrote:

> After all the updates, the system was NOT bootable.

How long did you wait for it to boot, and what did it do when it failed to 
boot?  What text messages showed up on the console?  Any reported errors when 
you ran the update or when you rebooted the computer?  If so, what did the say?

I personally haven't had any issues updating any of my computers (using a mix 
of Centos 6, 7 and 8) but maybe they're all too old to for the issue to show up.

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[CentOS] Centos 8: removing font rpms leaves directory and .uuid file behind

2020-07-30 Thread Frank Cox
remove an unneeded font that was installed during the initial setup:

dnf remove thai-scalable

ls -a /usr/share/fonts/thai-scalable

Not only did the directory survive the removal, but we still have a hidden file 
named .uuid in the directory (which is probably why it didn't get removed).

The directory and .uuid file is an orphan though, since rpm --whatprovides 
tells me that no rpm owns it.  Again, not surprising since we removed the rpm.

This happens when removing any of the default fonts like smc, any of the sil-* 
fonts and so forth.  They all leave their directory under /usr/share/fonts and 
a .uuid file behind.

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Re: [CentOS] virtualbox

2020-07-23 Thread Frank Cox
On Thu, 23 Jul 2020 16:49:39 -0500
Chuck Campbell wrote:

> Has anyone gotten virtualbox to run on Centos8?

Yes.

It "just works" for me.

> I did the install, and  it complained about missing elflibs, so I installed 
> those, and the 
> virtualbox install finished without any reported problems.

How did you install it?  I installed it with dnf using the VirtualBox rpm and 
didn't get any error messages.

I just checked and I don't have any "elflibs" rpms on this computer, either.  I 
do have elfutils-libelf, though, which may be something similar or may be 
entirely different.

Again, though, VirtualBox works fine here.   
VirtualBox-6.1-6.1.12_139181_el8-1.x86_64 according to the output from the rpm 
-q command.

So all of this makes me wonder if the problem is the way that you installed it 
or what you did to satisfy the mystery dependency(?) on elflibs, whatever that 
actually may be.

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Re: [CentOS] force CUPS print server to fit-to-page

2020-07-09 Thread Frank Cox
On Thu, 9 Jul 2020 13:00:19 -0400
Josh wrote:

> Does anyone have any ideas?

Did you set /etc/papersize?

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