[CentOS] possible LVM corruption?

2023-11-27 Thread Gordon Messmer
While updating a hypervisor, I'm getting the following errors printed to the terminal during rpm upgrade scripts.  The first line is printed 15 times, and GRUB prints a similar error at boot.  "vgck" doesn't seem to find any problems.  Does anyone have suggestions for diagnosing the issue?

[CentOS] can I convert a linear thin pool to raid1?

2023-11-09 Thread Gordon Messmer
In the past, I've used LVM on MD RAID, and I'd like to try using LVM RAID in order to also add dm-integrity data to some LVs.  I've added new PVs to my VG, and I've converted some of my LVs to raid1 types, but I also have one thin pool that I use for VMs with multiple layers of snapshots. 

Re: [CentOS] Current RHEL fragmentation landscape

2023-07-26 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 2023-07-25 16:24, Leon Fauster via CentOS wrote: Honestly, you are mixing unrelated, or not relevant topics and arguments, and even misconceptions and forget to understand the problem at all. I don't see how that's unrelated.  As I said earlier, on this point we're discussing a matter of

Re: [CentOS] Current RHEL fragmentation landscape

2023-07-25 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 2023-07-25 12:18, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Gordon Messmer said: If Red Hat were doing development in RHEL minor releases that wasn't published elsewhere, I would probably have a different view of thing, but they aren't.  There's nothing there that isn't published elsewhere

Re: [CentOS] Current RHEL fragmentation landscape

2023-07-25 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 2023-07-25 09:19, Gordon Messmer wrote: 5. Red Hat's policy change contradicts the GPL's spirit. As you acknowledge, that's a subjective question.  I would say "no." Seriously? You are the only person here who thinks that. After reading an unrelated thread, I wa

Re: [CentOS] Current RHEL fragmentation landscape

2023-07-25 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 2023-07-25 04:25, Phil Perry wrote: Nonsense. For years Red Hat freely published the complete RHEL SRPMs to their public ftp server. No, they didn't.  Take a look at the planning guide diagrams, here: https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/errata A RHEL major release isn't a

Re: [CentOS] Current RHEL fragmentation landscape

2023-07-24 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 2023-07-24 13:47, frank saporito wrote: Let me know if you disagree with any of these statements: 1. Red Hat is no longer posting source code to git.centos.org. Correct.  Red Hat used to publish a de-branded subset of RHEL source code there, and they've discontinued that process.  The

Re: [CentOS] Current RHEL fragmentation landscape

2023-07-24 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 2023-07-24 08:31, Tom Bishop wrote: Eh your keep dancing around and trying to spin what they did with the source and their intent. I'm not dancing around anything.  I'm discussing the objective, verifiable facts of what they did, some of my opinions on that, and not Red Hat's intent,

Re: [CentOS] Current RHEL fragmentation landscape

2023-07-24 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 2023-07-22 09:55, frank saporito wrote: On 7/22/23 02:29, Gordon Messmer wrote: From my point of view, Red Hat doesn't really sell software. They give away software.  All of their software is available at no charge, typically in an unbranded release.  What Red Hat sells is support. Does

Re: [CentOS] Current RHEL fragmentation landscape

2023-07-22 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 2023-07-21 00:30, Lee Thomas Stephen wrote: But for my business, I do not want to pay Red Hat, Zimbra, or Google Workspace. Why ? Because the general rule seems to be Oh! You are an individual, we will offer you affordable/free service What! You are a business, we will offer you extremely

Re: [CentOS] Current RHEL fragmentation landscape

2023-07-20 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 2023-07-20 04:36, Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote: my predict is that they will continue as a #rebuilder / #freeloader, writing software is a hard work. #offensive terms to the community :-), hide hat wrote it. No, they didn't. That term was bandied about on social media by people who were

Re: [CentOS] How will fragmentation help Red Hat

2023-07-13 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 2023-07-13 10:28, Tom Bishop wrote: Eh I beg to differ it's pretty clear that Magnus is calling folks freeloaders... https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/problem-rocky-linux-free-beer-magnus-glantz/ I've read that article several times, including just now with an eye out for such an accusation,

Re: [CentOS] How will fragmentation help Red Hat

2023-07-13 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 2023-07-13 09:00, Tom Bishop wrote: as referenced by one of the many RH articles, we are all just freeloaders so we shouldn't be missed. I don't believe there are any Red Hat articles that call user freeloaders. I'm aware of one personal blog, not on the redhat.com site, in which the

Re: [CentOS] How will fragmentation help Red Hat

2023-07-13 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 2023-07-13 05:11, mario juliano grande-balletta wrote: IBM wants to make money, PERIOD. They paid billions for RedHat and investors, executives, want ROI and profit, period. No excuses. So, they are locking down RedHat and closing channels to important software/materials. It is what

Re: [CentOS] How will fragmentation help Red Hat

2023-07-13 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 2023-07-13 03:12, Simon Matter wrote: As I found out yesterday, the fragmentation of the "Enterprise Linux" ecosystem just started to come true. I've been trying to figure out what SUSE meant when they announced a "hard fork" of RHEL.  If they mean to maintain a fork that remains

Re: [CentOS] wget http://mirror.stream.centos.org/9-stream/BaseOS/x86_64/os/images/pxeboot/vmlinuz --max-redirect=0 --no-hsts

2023-03-29 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 2023-03-29 11:52, Jelle de Jong wrote: I am using pxelinux to install centos stream 9 systems but this stopped working a while ago with mirror.stream.centos.org because it started forcing HTTPS and pxelinux is HTTP only. I believe the recommended configuration is to have vmlinuz and

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Stream 8 sssd.service failing part of sssd-common-2.8.1-1.el8.x86_64 baseos package

2022-12-27 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 2022-12-25 07:44, Jelle de Jong wrote: A recent update of the sssd-common-2.8.1-1.el8.x86_64 package is causing sssd.service systemctl failures all over my CentosOS machines. ... [sssd] [confdb_expand_app_domains] (0x0010): No domains configured, fatal error! Were you previously using

Re: [CentOS] BIND server getting DDOS

2022-08-03 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 8/3/22 11:08, Mark Milhollan wrote: Usually that's someone hoping to use you in a reflection attack Doesn't a reflection attack require the reflecting server to answer queries?  I'd think that the server logging that the query was denied would indicate that it is not vulnerable to that

Re: [CentOS] BIND server getting DDOS

2022-08-02 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 8/2/22 14:03, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I just, maybe, figured out why I have been having problems with my CentOS DNS server with BIND 9.11.4. Can you tell us more about what problem you've been having? Aug 2 15:47:19 onlo named[6155]: client @0xaa3cad80 114.29.194.4#11205 (.): view

Re: [CentOS] Special characters in bash strings

2022-07-06 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 7/6/22 18:41, H wrote: To my consternation this worked fine in some places but not in others. It might be easier to explain if you had an example of where it worked.  The bash man page has a section titled "EXPANSION" that details the order in which expansions happen.  Since tilde

Re: [CentOS] Need fstab-decode for CentOS 8

2022-03-01 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 3/1/22 15:36, Robert Nichols wrote: "${cmdline[@]}" The problem there is that the last line is going to get interpreted by a shell before anything is executed, so you now have to escape characters that are special to the shell within a quoted string. This is unlike the compiled

Re: [CentOS] Need fstab-decode for CentOS 8

2022-03-01 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 3/1/22 10:29, Gordon Messmer wrote: Chris Schanzle mentioned off-list that a tab character had been replaced with spaces (I *knew* that should have been an attached file, shame on me).  He also suggested an improvement that removes the tab character, so here's a second try

Re: [CentOS] Need fstab-decode for CentOS 8

2022-03-01 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 3/1/22 08:52, Gordon Messmer wrote: If you prefer a version that you don't need a C compiler to use, here's a pure bash implementation: Chris Schanzle mentioned off-list that a tab character had been replaced with spaces (I *knew* that should have been an attached file, shame on me

Re: [CentOS] vault.centos.org down

2022-03-01 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 2/28/22 23:46, Simon Matter wrote: Yes, also mostly down for me. Some requests were answered but unable to really use the site. Is it just overloaded?  I've seen a few examples recently of people building CentOS 8 containers by building repo definitions that reference vault.  Naturally,

Re: [CentOS] Need fstab-decode for CentOS 8

2022-03-01 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 3/1/22 05:53, Robert Nichols wrote: It turns out that particular wheel is best resurrected from the fstab-decode.c file in an old initscripts source package. The encoding is nonstandard, and the above perl code would not handle it correctly. It's pretty close.  It won't handle double

Re: [CentOS] stream 8 or stream 9 for new server

2022-02-13 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 2/13/22 10:36, Joshua Kramer wrote: I wouldn't go with CentOS for something like that- all of my stuff is on Rocky 8. Using Rocky or Alma isn't going to result in a broader set of packages available on EPEL.  Can I politely suggest that such suggestions don't actually address the

Re: [CentOS] stream 8 or stream 9 for new server

2022-02-13 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 2/12/22 23:06, Jon LaBadie wrote: Any guesses as to when the stream 9 repos (including epel) will be fairly complete? As best I understand it: CentOS Stream's repos are complete, and significant new additions are not expected.  There is no defined set of packages for EPEL, though.  That

Re: [CentOS] KVM virsh console to physical console?

2022-02-12 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 2/11/22 15:33, Lists wrote: Is there a way to "connect" the virsh console directly to a physical Linux terminal? EG: Ctl+Alt+F8 to access the Windows virsh console for Windows Server You could do something like "openvt virsh console mywindowsvm", which would run "virsh" on the first

Re: [CentOS] Any downside to mount -o noatime?

2022-02-10 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 2/10/22 18:15, Chris Adams wrote: Unless you never write to the disk, that will still be lost in the noise of writes. But if it still bothers you, use rsync --open-noatime. I'd have suggested that, except that as far as I can tell, it doesn't apply to directories.  Even with that option,

Re: [CentOS] [EXT] c9s: CPU ISA level lower than required

2022-02-07 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 2/7/22 09:10, Alessio wrote: Oh, well, it was plain "kvm64". Selecting "Nehalem", "SandyBridge" or "Westmere", it works. If you plan to live-migrate VMs from host to host, selecting a specific CPU which is the oldest generation CPU among the possible hosts which will run the VM is a good

Re: [CentOS] Ping as regular user not allowed (CentOS Stream 8)

2022-01-20 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 1/20/22 03:13, Simon Matter wrote: But seriously, this should be a warning how dangerous even the smallest bug in systemd can be. In this case it's absolutely harmless but it shows once more how domineering systemd became to be in the Linux ecosystem. A bit frightening for me. I don't

Re: [CentOS] Echoing statements in bash script

2022-01-14 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 1/14/22 17:18, H wrote: Using a bash script I want to echo several strings to a file. The echo statement, however, is in a function and thus indented but I do /not/ want the strings echoed indented in the new file. Is this doable? I don't think you can do that for strings passed as

Re: [CentOS] Kernel live patching on CentOS Stream 9

2022-01-13 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 1/13/22 09:32, Valeri Galtsev wrote: In layman's language summary: RedHat Enterprise features (including "live" kernel patching) are to be expected _only_ in RedHat Enterprise "binary replica" distributions, which CentOS Stream is not. I don't think that's true, exactly.  As far as I

Re: [CentOS] rd.lvm.lv on CentOS Stream 9 (first-boot failure)

2022-01-10 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 1/9/22 15:37, Gordon Messmer wrote: 1: The system also includes a volume group named "BackupGroup" and that group activates on boot (post-dracut).  Why are those LVs activated when rd.lvm.lv is specified? As far as I can tell, this is because in the dracut boot process, t

[CentOS] rd.lvm.lv on CentOS Stream 9 (first-boot failure)

2022-01-09 Thread Gordon Messmer
I've install a CentOS Stream 9 system from a kickstart file that specified (among other things) several logical volumes: logvol / --fstype="ext4" --size=10240 --name=lv_root --vgname=VolGroup logvol /var --fstype="ext4" --size=4096 --name=lv_var --vgname=VolGroup logvol swap --fstype="swap"

Re: [CentOS] Kernel live patching on CentOS Stream 9

2022-01-07 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 1/7/22 10:36, Kenneth Porter wrote: If Stream is to be the next RHEL, wouldn't you want to test this kind of thing so the RHEL subscribers don't have to? Red Hat does not rely on end-users to test their software.  (And that's definitely not what Stream is for.)

Re: [CentOS] Kernel live patching on CentOS Stream 9

2022-01-07 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 1/7/22 09:39, Gionatan Danti wrote: is kernel live patching working for CentOS Stream 9? https://access.redhat.com/solutions/2206511 My understanding of live kernel patching is that the feature allows systems to update specific individual kernel functions, and is primarily useful for

Re: [CentOS] issue with virt-install and CS9 boot iso

2021-12-29 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 12/29/21 07:29, Leon Fauster via CentOS wrote: virt-install  -l CentOS-Stream-9-20211222.0-x86_64-boot.iso I don't have  CS8 host handy to check... The man page for "virt-install -l" notes that this should work if virt-install is run as root.  Is it run as root? The man page also

Re: [CentOS] Qemu - enabling "bridge mode" for primary physical interface for VMs

2021-12-07 Thread Gordon Messmer
The easiest way to set up bridged mode is to use virsh to convert the eth0 configuration to a new bridge, br0:     virsh iface-bridge eth0 br0 --no-stp ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Delete local user/group but not LDAP one

2021-11-25 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 11/25/21 21:24, Thomas Mueller wrote: at least it seems that save, that ansible * https://github.com/ansible/ansible/blob/devel/lib/ansible/modules/user.py#L625 * https://github.com/ansible/ansible/blob/devel/lib/ansible/modules/user.py#L640-L643 and puppet *

Re: [CentOS] Install OpenSSL 1.1.1 on CentOS Linux release 7.9.2009 (Core).

2021-11-13 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 11/13/21 09:02, Jonathan Billings wrote: While you might be able to compile the software with those flags, you'll not be able to run anything with libraries out of the standard search path. And you don't want to add this openssl to the standard search path, because it will break packaged

Re: [CentOS] Install OpenSSL 1.1.1 on CentOS Linux release 7.9.2009 (Core).

2021-11-09 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 11/9/21 09:30, Kaushal Shriyan wrote: #*./configure LDFLAGS="-L/usr/lib64/openssl11"* I believe that at a minimum, you would need: ./configure LDFLAGS="-L/usr/lib64/openssl11" CFLAGS="-I/usr/include/openssl11" ___ CentOS mailing list

Re: [CentOS] centos 7 mbr to gpt without loosing data

2021-11-04 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 11/4/21 09:23, Ralf Prengel wrote: has anyone a working tutoring how to migrate a centos 7 system from mbr to gpt without loosing data. Do you mean the boot volume, or some other disk? I think your ability to do this, in any scenario, will depend heavily on your partition alignment. 

Re: [CentOS] Infiniband

2021-10-08 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 10/8/21 10:51, Mark Woolfson wrote: I have a large server cluster running CentOS 6.4 and CentOS 6.6 using 10GbE. I want to upgrade to Infiniband. CentOS 6 hasn't received any feature updates since May 2017, so any compatible hardware would have had to be released and supported before

Re: [CentOS] Find out which process consumed Network bandwidth

2021-09-14 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 9/13/21 18:47, MRob wrote: While you probably can't recover such information for past events, going forward, iptables can help you figure this out. Putting an IPtables rule in the OUTPUT table prior to ACCEPTing the packets can help, e.g.:     iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp -m owner --uid-owner

Re: [CentOS] Troubles expanding file system.

2021-09-01 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 9/1/21 9:42 AM, Jeff Boyce wrote: 6. I suspect that I need to rescan the devices on Sequoia so that it recognizes the increased space that has been allocated from the extended the logical volume.  But when I did that (command below) it came back with a no such file or directory. echo 1 >

Re: [CentOS] Centos versions in the future?

2021-07-09 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 7/8/21 11:13 PM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: This being said, things have changed, and Microsoft is now - amongst other things - the most important contributor to the Linux kernel in sheer terms of lines of code. I don't think that's true. Microsoft has, infrequently, appeared in the top 5 for

Re: [CentOS] Security Updates not properly flagged

2021-06-21 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 6/21/21 4:53 AM, Gionatan Danti wrote: Historically the CentOS team refused to provide such metadata due to the added work required. Now with Stream, and the demise of classic CentOS, security updates are even less probable (ie: a rolling release is often wholly updated). CentOS Stream

Re: [CentOS] Multiple NICs, different IP Networks and routing centos 8

2021-06-15 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 6/15/21 7:18 AM, Götz Reinicke wrote: Till now I was not able to figure that out, how do I configure such a setup in centos? You're looking for documentation on "multi-homed" networking or "policy based routing". This is the shortest document that looks like it will work from a quick

Re: [CentOS] Prevent a particular kernel from being deleted

2021-06-10 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 6/4/21 9:31 PM, Frank Cox wrote: So is there a way to tell dnf to update kernels in the usual manner but always keep a certain installed version until otherwise instructed? Not that I know of.  You could increase "installonly_limit" in dnf.conf to a large number, and remove kernels

Re: [CentOS] Static configuration: prevent /etc/resolv.conf from being overwritten on first reboot

2021-06-07 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 6/7/21 1:32 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: # Generated by NetworkManager ... Q: how can I prevent /etc/resolv.conf from being overwritten on the initial reboot? Edit /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf: [main] dns=none ___ CentOS mailing list

Re: [CentOS] where to get reliable/open source license manager

2021-05-28 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 5/28/21 5:49 AM, qw wrote: I have developped one python application. I need open source license server to manage the app via local network. Where can I get this kind of open source project? It's not really clear (to me, anyway) what you're asking for. What would the application you're

Re: [CentOS] OpenSSH 8.6/8.6p1 on CentOS Linux release 7.9.2009 (Core)

2021-05-25 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 5/25/21 5:31 AM, Kaushal Shriyan wrote: Is there a way to validate if the above Key exchange, Cipher and MAC algorithms address the vulnerabilities? What vulnerabilities are you trying to address? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

Re: [CentOS] Centos versions in the future?

2021-04-30 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 4/30/21 11:36 AM, R C wrote: No, I think you've completely missed the point that I was making, which was simply that criticism of CentOS Stream often mistakenly argues that because of the change, users of CentOS lose things that they never had to begin with. I don't know for sure if that

Re: [CentOS] Centos versions in the future?

2021-04-30 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 4/30/21 11:03 AM, R C wrote: CentOS has *never* had support from Red Hat. So what is it you expect?, get an enterprise quality OS for free, and also expect highly paid, expensive, engineers to support your need for assistance on a whim for free too? No, I think you've completely

Re: [CentOS] Centos versions in the future?

2021-04-30 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 4/30/21 6:19 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: Why do, you, people use “creative editing”? Cite the whole piece I said, and place your question there, don’t tear single phrase out of context. It's not "creative editing", it's quote trimming in a forum which provides threaded discussions.  It's

Re: [CentOS] Centos versions in the future?

2021-04-30 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 4/30/21 2:32 AM, Gionatan Danti wrote: Don't get me wrong: I understand that Stream is the way forward and that things are not going to change, and this is fine. But trying to ignore the key differences (shorter support, unknown upgrade from Stream-8 to Stream-9, broken kABI, etc) is not

Re: [CentOS] Centos versions in the future?

2021-04-29 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 4/29/21 8:51 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: but in the second  case I can not put my reputation at stake and finish my phrase with "whatever works on RedHat Enterprise will work on CentOS". Why do you think that?  Are RHEL (and CentOS) point releases backward compatible or not?  If you trust

Re: [CentOS] Centos versions in the future?

2021-04-27 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 4/27/21 6:36 AM, Carlos Oliva wrote: I have heard that Stream is beta releases of RH -- rather distressing. Is this a proper characterization? No, I don't think so.  I think a better characterization would be: Rawhide is a development (beta?) release.  Fedora is a stable release. 

Re: [CentOS] "System error" when trying to logon via SSH to CentOS 8 joined to AD

2021-04-04 Thread Gordon Messmer
On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 11:10 PM Konstantin Boyandin via CentOS wrote: > I joined a CentOS 8 box to an AD, using the below document as general > guide: How general? Can you describe what you've done that differed from the guide? > When I comment a line in /etc/pam.d/password-auth (the one

Re: [CentOS] KVM vs. incremental remote backups

2021-04-03 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 3/31/21 12:50 PM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: The problem with using Rsnapshot on the VM's filesystems rather than backing up the whole VM is the time it takes to restore all the mess. All the same, backing up the VM filesystem from within the VM is the best way to back them up using rsnapshot.

Re: [CentOS] remote disk decryption on centos?

2021-03-14 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 3/12/21 1:51 PM, ept8e...@secmail.pro wrote: Hi I was reading about how unlock encrypted root partition from remote (unattended). I'd like asking what is compatible way for this in centos and commonly used by administrators? What's your threat model?  Are you trying to protect the system

Re: [CentOS] Dual WAN on EL8 desktop.

2021-03-14 Thread Gordon Messmer
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 10:30 PM Thomas Stephen Lee wrote: > What is ideal is the bandwidth of two connections and half bandwidth > when one link is down. That may not be *generally* possible. You can load-balance your network streams (connections), so that you'll utilize the bandwidth of two

Re: [CentOS] Expand XFS filesystem on CentOS Linux release 8.2.2004 (Core)

2021-03-12 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 3/12/21 4:45 AM, Kaushal Shriyan wrote: Is there a way to expand xfs filesystem /dev/nvme0n1p2 which is 7.8G and occupy the remaining free disk space of 60GB? Can you set up an identical EC2 instance to test the process?  I definitely wouldn't do this on a system with data that you need,

Re: [CentOS] Tar of files

2021-03-03 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 3/3/21 6:53 AM, Jerry Geis wrote: When I "tar" up an archive the files have an owner bob, when I extract that to another machine bob is there also but user number is different. So when I extract bob is no longer the owner of the files but someone else. Is there a good way to account for this

Re: [CentOS] Recommendations for webmail client on EL8

2021-03-02 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 3/2/21 5:42 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: You may need to rebuild gcc from different source rpms to get Objective-C in EL-8. The RHEL gcc source rpms did not produce Objective-C rpms or binaries when I looked at it in 2019. That would explain the gcc rpms in the upsteam nightly repo

Re: [CentOS] Recommendations for webmail client on EL8

2021-03-01 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 3/1/21 4:31 PM, Joshua Kramer wrote: Do those scripts also handle the building of Objective-C, which is needed to build SOGo? I have been toying with this off and on, there's an independent repo somewhere that has the EL8 builds of Obj-C and SOGo, but I haven't had time to get everything set

Re: [CentOS] Recommendations for webmail client on EL8

2021-03-01 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 3/1/21 5:57 AM, Simon Matter wrote: Is there anybody running webmail on EL8? Can you make a recommendation on a certain tool? I've had good success with SOGo, and I publish scripts for building the free release as rpm packages: https://github.com/gordonmessmer/build-sogo If you decide

Re: [CentOS] bash: return status of an assignment

2021-02-27 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 2/27/21 4:39 PM, Skylar Thompson wrote: You can fix it if you group the assignments together: [ -z "$INSMOD" ] && (INSMOD=$(which modprobe) || INSMOD="$(which insmod)") They do need to be grouped, but if you group them with parentheses, they execute in a subshell, and the assignment is

Re: [CentOS] bash: return status of an assignment

2021-02-27 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 2/27/21 1:32 PM, Kenneth Porter wrote: [ -z "$INSMOD" ] && INSMOD=$(which modprobe) || INSMOD=$(which insmod) It seems to set INSMOD to /usr/sbin/insmod, even though /usr/sbin/modprobe is available. (Both are symlinks to ../bin/kmod.)     [ -z "$INSMOD" ] && INSMOD=$(which modprobe) ||

Re: [CentOS] Permission denied when updating CentOS 8 Streams

2021-02-20 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 2/19/21 12:37 AM, Mathieu Baudier wrote: - Curl error (7): Couldn't connect to server for http://mirrorlist.centos.org/?release=8-stream=x86_64=AppStream=stock [Failed to connect to mirrorlist.centos.org port 80: Permission denied] It's unusual to see EPERM on a call to connect()... The

Re: [CentOS] bnxt_en :: interface renamed with a suffix

2021-01-16 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 1/15/21 3:26 AM, Adrian Sevcenco wrote: does anyone have any idea what is going on? I disabled anything i could (to have a proper normal nic that do not act and do things behind the OS) Can be more specific about either 1: what you have disabled or 2: what you expect the interface name

Re: [CentOS] LTS

2021-01-12 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 1/11/21 10:30 PM, Thomas Stephen Lee wrote: CentOS Linux can continue as Fedora LTS or something similar with a five-year life cycle. Yeah, you're describing CentOS Stream.  It's an LTS distribution with a five year support cycle, similar to other LTS distributions.

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Stream suitability as a production webserver

2021-01-06 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 1/6/21 8:01 PM, Strahil Nikolov via CentOS wrote: - No chance to "yum history undo last" as there are no older packages I've seen that mentioned as a change pretty frequently, but I don't think it is in any meaningful sense. In CentOS Stream, package versions may be rebased

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Stream suitability as a production webserver

2021-01-06 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 1/6/21 9:20 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: Broken packages explained away are still broken packages. I'm not sure how your system got in to a broken state, though. If you have a working system, and one repo updates a package to remove a dependency of a currently working package, those

Re: [CentOS] fail2ban problems - not banning

2021-01-06 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 1/6/21 2:57 AM, Gary Stainburn wrote: 2020-12-22 19:38:27,619 fail2ban.utils  [1836]: ERROR 7f119e95f7f0 -- exec: ports="0:65535"; for p in $(echo $ports | tr ", " " "); do firewall-cmd --add-rich-rule="rule family='ipv4' source address='113.110.47.81' port port='$p' protocol='tcp'

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Stream suitability as a production webserver

2021-01-06 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 1/5/21 11:31 PM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: No, this was an actual problem I had back in April 2020. Upgrading from CR broke imagemagick At the time, you described that problem as: I got an alert from Yum-Cron this morning: Failed to check for updates with the following error message: Failed

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Stream suitability as a production webserver

2021-01-05 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 1/5/21 10:47 PM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: And in the past, things have been known to break. Activate the CR repository, and suddenly libmagick is broken because it hasn't been rebuilt yet against the new version. Are you describing an actual problem, right now, or is that an invented

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Stream suitability as a production webserver

2021-01-05 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 1/5/21 6:30 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: I was not comparing CentOS Stream with CentOS (former 10 year life cycle system), I was comparing CentOS Stream with Debian (and clones) LTS. The original message came from a CentOS user who asked "is the change a non-issue for my use-case?" So,

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Stream suitability as a production webserver

2021-01-05 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 1/5/21 3:39 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: And as someone mentioned, these other distributions have long great record of system upgrade from one release to another. CentOS has no record (and probably no upgrade engineered yet). In that respect CentOS Stream is way behind... In that respect,

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Stream suitability as a production webserver

2021-01-05 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 1/5/21 3:02 PM, Jamie Burchell wrote: We will need to (manually) migrate to Stream 9.x after 5 years instead of 10 though? Yes.  CentOS Stream has a lifecycle comparable with other LTS distributions. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Stream suitability as a production webserver

2021-01-05 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 1/5/21 11:32 AM, Jamie Burchell wrote: is the change a non-issue for my use-case? Probably.  For a lot of users, Stream is a drop-in replacement that's better than CentOS was, because it gets updates consistently and doesn't suffer from periods in which no updates are available,

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Stream suitability as a production webserver

2021-01-05 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 1/5/21 2:27 PM, Jamie Burchell wrote: We already automatically update our systems with yum-cron / dnf automatic and I'm reading that if we're already doing that, Stream isn't going to be a departure I'd have said the same:  If you trust CentOS enough to update automatically, then Stream

Re: [CentOS] Is EPEL compatible with Stream?

2021-01-04 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 1/4/21 3:05 AM, Leon Fauster via CentOS wrote: I would expect broken update paths. Also after EOL of CentOS Linux but not sure if they plan a new "playground" repo: EPEL-NEXT ... see here:

Re: [CentOS] Is EPEL compatible with Stream?

2021-01-03 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 1/3/21 8:05 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: So how would one use this shiny bit of information?  Is there a way to discover if an EPEL application is going to clobber your system before you install it? As long as the upstream developers observe semantic versioning, dnf would tell whether or

Re: [CentOS] Is EPEL compatible with Stream?

2021-01-03 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 1/3/21 5:34 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: Except in cases where packages in a RHEL point release are being rebased. This is something which is happening with a lot more gusto than in any previous releases so there may be points where say a QT or a gnomelib provides in Stream is ahead of

Re: [CentOS] Is EPEL compatible with Stream?

2021-01-03 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 1/3/21 2:51 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: is it still OK to set up EPEL as a repo? Yes.  CentOS Stream is expected to be backward-compatible with RHEL, for the same reason that each RHEL point release is backward-compatible with previous point releases.

Re: [CentOS] Disk choice for workstation ?

2020-12-26 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 12/26/20 12:20 PM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: Any advice from the hardware gurus on this list? I think your request lacks at least one critical consideration: What is the cost of down time? You've got a RAID1 setup now, so I have to assume that you've decided at some point in the past that

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 future

2020-12-17 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 12/17/20 5:54 PM, Konstantin Boyandin via CentOS wrote: It's purely a developer's distro. Has Chris Wright ever recommended CentOS for any purpose other than development and testing? Shall I explain difference between a developer's distro and the one suitable for production servers (a

Re: [CentOS] Status of DLM in CentOS?

2020-12-16 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 12/9/20 2:16 AM, Michael Schwartzkopff wrote: I was searching for DLM for my Centos 8. But it seems there are no packages available. The "dlm" kernel module is included in the standard kernel. Locks are configured with the "pcs" package. ___

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 8 future

2020-12-15 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 12/15/20 7:59 PM, Joshua Kramer wrote: Why would RedHat invest millions more in buying the CentOS process just to have CentOS act as the beta? Indeed. Often, when you can't find a reasonable answer to a question, it is because the premise of the question itself is wrong.

Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-13 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 12/13/20 1:32 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: On 12/13/20 8:56 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 12/13/20 2:45 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: When people are happy with something they do not voice their content on the mailing list, mailing list is only to voice your discontent. You heard about

Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-13 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 12/13/20 2:45 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: When people are happy with something they do not voice their content on the mailing list, mailing list is only to voice your discontent. You heard about "silent majority", right? Ever though why it is called that? So, the majority of users are

Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-12 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 12/11/20 9:56 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: And I will repeat that millions of CentOS users found free clone of RHEL trustworthy enough to use it for production, even without "official endorsement". Exactly.  That's why it's so weird that those people, today, think that CentOS Stream

Re: [CentOS] question centos stream 8 applying updates

2020-12-11 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 12/11/20 10:19 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote: Just one ten-year long release. My mistake: Stream releases are five-year long releases (RHEL's "full" support period). ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailma

Re: [CentOS] question centos stream 8 applying updates

2020-12-11 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 12/10/20 2:53 PM, edward via CentOS wrote: after reading some info on centos stream is a  rolling release. i'm wondering applying It's not a "rolling release" in the most commonly used sense. There just isn't a minor number for releases.  CentOS Stream 8 will always be CentOS Stream 8,

Re: [CentOS] 8-stream dnf overly verbose

2020-12-11 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 12/11/20 8:31 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: Also, WOAH. I just noticed that CentOS Stream bugs are to be filed as _actual versions of RHEL 8 and RHEL 9_. That's amazing. I don't usually like to reply when I have nothing to add, but that is *holy cow* level of amazing.

Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-11 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 12/11/20 8:00 AM, Sergio Belkin wrote: how could you ask trust and confidence with something like that: I'll repeat what I said earlier, CentOS has never offered the things people are complaining about losing.  They've never asked for your trust and confidence.  Both Red Hat and the

Re: [CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-11 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 12/10/20 6:28 PM, Konstantin Boyandin via CentOS wrote: Allow me to disagree. We both trust Chris Wright's words, don't we? CTO won't lie. Citing him: "To be exact, CentOS Stream is an upstream development platform for ecosystem developers. It will be updated several times a day. So, like

[CentOS] I'm looking forward to the future of CentOS Stream

2020-12-10 Thread Gordon Messmer
Personally, I think that changing focus on CentOS Stream is going to make CentOS (and maybe even RHEL) better in the same way and for the same reasons that Fedora is a better distribution than Red Hat Linux was. CentOS Stream should fix the biggest problems that CentOS has had in the past,

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