Re: [CentOS] ClearOS rebuild

2011-06-02 Thread Ian Murray
This week's FLOSS Weekly interview is about ClearOS (audio/video at http://twit.tv/floss168). Apparently they have taken the CentOS developer's frequently given advice to go away and do it yourself and will have a 'ClearOS core' release that is their own rebuild from Red Hat

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Digest, Vol 76, Issue 20

2011-05-20 Thread Ian Murray
Subject: Re: [CentOS] xferlog not rotating. To: centos@centos.org Message-ID: 20110520144308.ga23...@bludgeon.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 10:44:49AM -0400, Steven Crothers wrote: It's a bit funny that logrotate is difficult to fix for

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-21 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message From: John R. Dennison j...@gerdesas.com To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Sent: Thu, 21 April, 2011 1:01:22 Subject: Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update? On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 11:31:04PM +0100, Ian Murray wrote: Seriously, just skip over my posts. I

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-21 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message From: Garry Dale garry.d...@gmail.com To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Sent: Thu, 21 April, 2011 1:37:33 Subject: Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update? (someone) wrote: Why does the website say something so different, then? Seriously? Are people

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-21 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message From: Ron Blizzard rb4cen...@gmail.com To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Sent: Thu, 21 April, 2011 1:59:19 Subject: Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update? On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Ian Murray murra...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Seriously, just skip over my

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-21 Thread Ian Murray
It sounds to me like your big beef is that you can't run the CentOS distribution the way *you* want it run. Whether you agree or not, doesn't change the fact that CentOS *is* enterprise ready.-- and many enterprises use it. The only time there are significant delays in No, I would just

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-21 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message From: John R. Dennison j...@gerdesas.com To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Sent: Thu, 21 April, 2011 2:58:36 Subject: Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update? On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 08:29:07PM +0100, Ian Murray wrote: I have it black and white

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-21 Thread Ian Murray
And do us a favor? Take your own advice. I always try to state as far as I know, as far as I can tell, in my opinion/belief. Can we recall that I commented on the fact that a major Linux magazine had put up a pretty damning article. I don't know why I am getting attacked for that.

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-20 Thread Ian Murray
Respected? I can't recall a single article of his that mentioned CentOS that wasn't disparaging. I find such one-sided and opinionated writings hard to respect. Okay, maybe that was an assumption too far in regards to respect. Perhaps not so one-sided if he had received an email

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-20 Thread Ian Murray
No. News reporting is about picking up and distilling the sentiment of what's going on. The article has done that. It doesn't have to be a complete factual research project with totally fair and balanced chances for everyone to have their say. If the Devs had responded, that would

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-20 Thread Ian Murray
Is there anything else relevant to add? ___ Yeah, please can someone fix the front-page to better reflect the distribution for what it is, rather than the sales pitch that is there now. Not everyone has read about it ad nausem on this list.

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-20 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message From: Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Sent: Wed, 20 April, 2011 21:32:35 Subject: Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update? On Wednesday, April 20, 2011 03:29:07 PM Ian Murray wrote: My big beef has always been that the website

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-20 Thread Ian Murray
But to allude to him as a respected industry member is greatly stretching things when every article that mentions CentOS is disparaging and I can't recall any article even ending on a positive note. Try google: http://lwn.net/Articles/123934/ (For the record, I couldn't find any

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-20 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message From: John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com To: centos@centos.org Sent: Wed, 20 April, 2011 23:04:50 Subject: Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update? On 04/20/11 2:51 PM, Ian Murray wrote: Is there anything else relevant to add

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-19 Thread Ian Murray
Here's a more objective view from Linux Mag: http://www.linux-mag.com/id/8608/?hq_e=elhq_m=1231269hq_l=12hq_v=41484763bd If you have trouble with the link, some relevant quotes: Wow, that must smart. Still, should come as no surprise as it has all been said on here before... many

Re: [CentOS] Dag's RHEL Rebuild Project.

2011-04-13 Thread Ian Murray
I am sure if you do then you will have a mailing list on which your fanbois can post that they want to give you money. But this list is not for that purpose. Once again an unnecessary personal attack. If anybody round here has fanbois, the CentOS devs! Not language I would normally

Re: [CentOS] Dag's RHEL Rebuild Project.

2011-04-12 Thread Ian Murray
This is really disrespectful to talk about on here. The devs spent a ton of their spare time to develop centos, last thing you should talk about is starting competing projects... Peter. Erm, the dev(s) *suggested* using an alternative distribution. The stated aims are different, so

Re: [CentOS] Dag's RHEL Rebuild Project.

2011-04-12 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message From: aurfal...@gmail.com aurfal...@gmail.com To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Sent: Tue, 12 April, 2011 20:10:14 Subject: Re: [CentOS] Dag's RHEL Rebuild Project. On Apr 12, 2011, at 11:59 AM, Ian Murray wrote: This is really disrespectful

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-10 Thread Ian Murray
The goal of the centos project is to produce an RPM that is exactly like the upstream RPM in every way that is legally possible. The checks we do look at libraries that binaries link to, size of the packages and a list of the files the RPM installs. We would like for all RPMS to

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-08 Thread Ian Murray
John, please stop cluttering the list with your complaining. It's making a right mess for those of that wish to discuss the project and its direction. Wow. Pot? Kettle? So, let me get this straight. People are able to bitch, whine, complain and needlessly threaten to

Re: [CentOS] STOP THIS THREAD NOW!

2011-04-08 Thread Ian Murray
I'm really tired of this. Ralph: please unsubscribe everyone who can't shut his mouth. Thanks. A lot of of less-vocal people will thank you. Kai ___ Wow Kai, maybe you should suspend the mailing list? At least that

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-08 Thread Ian Murray
As I seem to have started this little subsection of the thread, please let me give just one small example to help clarify the situation as it appears there is still a lot of misunderstanding surrounding this issue. Let's look at kernel modules, kmod packages. They are built against

Re: [CentOS] STOP THIS THREAD NOW!

2011-04-08 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message From: Kai Schaetzl mailli...@conactive.com To: centos@centos.org Sent: Fri, 8 April, 2011 13:37:19 Subject: Re: [CentOS] STOP THIS THREAD NOW! STOP IT! Kai If we carry on long enough, Godwin's Law will kick-in and that will be the end of it. I have had

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Ian Murray
These people are priceless and don't deserve to be submitted to the harshness we have been witnessing lately. And everyone else is worthless and deserve the rudeness handed out by the devs? Why don't you make comment on that or is that perfectly acceptable because of who they are?

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message From: Radu Gheorghiu r...@pengooin.net To: centos@centos.org Sent: Thu, 7 April, 2011 16:55:49 Subject: Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update? On 04/07/2011 06:49 PM, Ian Murray wrote: These people are priceless and don't deserve to be submitted

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Ian Murray
If you WANT a service level agreement with me, then you may contract for one. If you pay me enough, I will guarantee you updates on what ever schedule you are willing to pay for. I will be very professional in my dealings with you in that case too. When you want something that is

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Ian Murray
If you do not like how your hairdresser does you hair you will go to other one. If you do not like the taste of bread you are buying, you will go and by from other bakery. I have never been insulted or belittled by my hairdresser as we discuss how my hair is best cut. My bakery has

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Ian Murray
Actually I just finished an email to Connie and Troy over at SL, sharing some detail on project management with them They are each friends, and it does not cause me a moment's pain or raised blood pressure when SL is mentioned or when someone 'threatens' to use their project's

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message From: R P Herrold herr...@owlriver.com To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Sent: Thu, 7 April, 2011 21:58:08 Subject: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update? On Thu, 7 Apr 2011, Ian Murray wrote: hair is best cut. My bakery has refused to sell me sliced bread

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-07 Thread Ian Murray
http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=16 specifically item #2 in guidelines. Here, let me summarize it for you: Do Not Top Post. KB top posted yesterday. Did you correct him? Thought not. If your going to be anything, please be fair. If you're

Re: [CentOS] KILL THIS THREAD ( Centos 6 Update?)

2011-04-06 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From:Kai Schaetzl mailli...@conactive.com This thread or others like it will continue wrong. It will continue as long people bite. Stop biting the bait! Kai Oh, the irony Likewise. Somebody will still keep coming onto ask the questions, esp.

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-06 Thread Ian Murray
Thats a very good question, and something more people should be asking : here is a terse reply : adopt a part of the distro, contribute tests and take ownership of driving support for those components forward ( so, wiki content, support in irc channels and support for users on those

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-06 Thread Ian Murray
to Yahoo. Assuming it wasn't just a very cheap and childish shot, of course. Obviously it wasn't so broken that you weren't able to read or reply my mail. I can't imagine what terrible hardship it has caused you. On 04/06/2011 12:55 PM, Ian Murray wrote: Its easy to fixate on the idea

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-06 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message From: Kai Schaetzl mailli...@conactive.com To: centos@centos.org Sent: Wed, 6 April, 2011 17:15:27 Subject: Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update? Your mail is broken because it doesn't contain correct threading headers (In-Reply-To). Because of that it just threads

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-06 Thread Ian Murray
On 04/06/2011 03:19 PM, Ian Murray wrote: firstly, get a better email client. Your existing one is broken. Irrelevant, unhelpful and quite rude. mailing lists are setup to retain thread sanity, its expected people use mailclients that can honour that. If yours cant and you prefer

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 Update?

2011-04-06 Thread Ian Murray
On 04/06/2011 09:30 PM, Ian Murray wrote: As previously stated, in-reply-to isn't a mandatory field as far as I can tell, so it is a stretch to call it broken. However, now that someone actually stopped the time-wasting and told me the issue precisely, I was able to rectify

Re: [CentOS] KILL THIS THREAD ( Centos 6 Update?)

2011-04-05 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message - From:Kai Schaetzl mailli...@conactive.com To:centos@centos.org Cc: Sent:Tuesday, 5 April 2011, 13:21 Subject:Re: [CentOS] KILL THIS THREAD ( Centos 6 Update?) +100 Kai Anybody that thinks this thread can be killed is so badly mis-understanding

Re: [CentOS] Corporate support for CentOS

2011-03-27 Thread Ian Murray
What makes you think CentOS is not willing to be commercially sponsored? (Or only work developing CentOS?) I would LOVE to be able to do CentOS as my only job. No one that we know of is willing to pay a full time salary for 1 or 2 or 3 people to develop CentOS.  If they would pay for

Re: [CentOS] Corporate support for CentOS

2011-03-27 Thread Ian Murray
What the CentOS project would be interested in (from a corporate provider) would be to hire people and allow them to do CentOS related things. We are not interested in being paid in addition to our current work, but making taking care of CentOS our only work. There are many things

Re: [CentOS] Corporate support for CentOS

2011-03-26 Thread Ian Murray
There have been a number of recent conversations on the developer list and this list about CentOS.  My initial thought was why not have CentOS and SL merge.  Since they have different goals I can understand the reason not to.  So my next question is, has no corporate entity offered to sponsor

Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 - What are you looking forward to?

2011-03-03 Thread Ian Murray
--- On Thu, 3/3/11, John R. Dennison j...@gerdesas.com wrote: From: John R. Dennison j...@gerdesas.com Subject: Re: [CentOS] Centos 6 - What are you looking forward to? To: Digimer li...@alteeve.com Cc: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org, David Sommerseth d...@users.sourceforge.net

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5 Security Updates

2011-02-24 Thread Ian Murray
I know the development team is furiously working to get 5.6 out the door so I understand that there will be delays. However, it was my understanding that Critical security updates and those that are remotely exploitable would be pushed out ahead of 5.6. That is my

Re: [CentOS] Air Conditioning - ON!

2011-02-22 Thread Ian Murray
No one is taking you wrong here; Did you check with everybody before you spoke for them all? How about the project renames the distribution to IfYouDontLikeItYouAreNotForcedToUseItOS? That is a fantastic idea because IMHO it would be a much fairer assessment of the

Re: [CentOS] Air Conditioning - ON!

2011-02-22 Thread Ian Murray
Calling it Enterprise is important because doing so establishes the *origin* and the *objective* of the work: a BUG-FOR-BUG-IDENTICAL de-branding/re-branding of Red Hat ENTERPRISE Linux. How about BugforbugIdenticaldebreandingrebrandingofupstreamenterpriselinuxOS? Only joking. I take

Re: [CentOS] was: Re: Any update on 5.6 / 6?, is please kill for another month

2011-02-22 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message From: m.r...@5-cent.us m.r...@5-cent.us To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Sent: Tue, 22 February, 2011 20:08:21 Subject: [CentOS] was: Re: Any update on 5.6 / 6?, is please kill for another month Can we *please* kill this thread, which has run on

Re: [CentOS] Air Conditioning - ON!

2011-02-22 Thread Ian Murray
I think 8 million unique machines disagree with you assessment. Who knows, maybe all 8 million are wrong and the 10-20 people who are discussing it on this list are right. Man, you could build a killer botnet if you wanted to!! (which strengthens your argument about the point about the

Re: [CentOS] how to optimize CentOS XEN dom0?

2011-02-22 Thread Ian Murray
Are they paravirt of HVM guests? qemu might have something to do with it if HVM guests are involved. - Original Message From: Rudi Ahlers r...@softdux.com To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Sent: Tue, 22 February, 2011 23:29:29 Subject: [CentOS] how to optimize CentOS XEN

Re: [CentOS] Any update on 5.6 / 6?

2011-02-21 Thread Ian Murray
Seeing as how we are currently dealing with 2 trees in the QA directory for testing right now (4.9 and 5.6) ... 6.0 will be waiting until we get those out of QA. I recall discussing this off-list with Johnny, like a year and a half ago (Wed, 12 August, 2009 14:25:18) I said

Re: [CentOS] Air Conditioning - ON!

2011-02-21 Thread Ian Murray
2. Add more staff. As a small business owner, the very last thing you want to do is add more staff when you are in a slammed state. It takes all of the 'productive' workers time to train the new staff and output slows to a crawl. .

Re: [CentOS] Air Conditioning - ON!

2011-02-21 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message From: Barry Brimer li...@brimer.org To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Sent: Mon, 21 February, 2011 21:12:57 Subject: Re: [CentOS] Air Conditioning - ON! On Mon, 21 Feb 2011, Ian Murray wrote: Plus, rename to something that doesn't suggest

Re: [CentOS] Any update on 5.6 / 6?

2011-02-15 Thread Ian Murray
Now Fred had read this book about how adding farmers to a field won't necessarily make the fruit grow any faster. Maybe it's true, he thought. Some of the experienced farmers had already been helping anyway, so that was something. Perhaps Fred confused people by calling his fruit

Re: [CentOS] Ken Olsen od DEC, 1927-2011

2011-02-08 Thread Ian Murray
There is no reason for any individual to have a computer in his home. Google thinks the same, don't they? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Not receiving mail

2010-10-19 Thread Ian Murray
No the example above shows a telnet to port 25 connecting - which I can reproduce too - but there is no 220 response as there should be from a I am late to the thread (and I haven't a clue what we are talking about in fact), but I get a 220 when I telnet into that IP address... Escape

Re: [CentOS] Not receiving mail

2010-10-19 Thread Ian Murray
[herr...@stones herrold]$ telnet 178.63.65.136 25 Trying 178.63.65.136... Connected to 178.63.65.136. Escape character is '^]'. 220 mercury.localdomain ESMTP Postfix quit 221 2.0.0 Bye Connection closed by foreign host. [herr...@stones herrold]$ Something between your local

Re: [CentOS] Calendar server software suggestions

2010-05-27 Thread Ian Murray
I was planning to evaluate devical, but have not tried it yet: href=http://www.davical.org/; target=_blank http://www.davical.org/ I would welcome comments from anyone with experience with devical. DAViCal is excellent. Perhaps more at home on a Debian based disty, but can be

Re: [CentOS] VPN

2010-04-10 Thread Ian Murray
i am looking to open vpn remote page now do you know where could i set client's sites that allow to connect or not ? I can't remember if there are other controls, but AFAIK the primary method of saying who is allowed is via certificates that you create when setting it up. It is still unclear

Re: [CentOS] VPN

2010-04-10 Thread Ian Murray
yes exactly that is what i need to do murrayei could you describe a little more If 'B' in my previous description is a single machine, need not route and the A to C issue goes away. My OpenVPN/Iptables skills are not strong enough to describe it in general terms and has been previously

Re: [CentOS] emergency! linux kickstart pxe boot needed

2010-02-28 Thread Ian Murray
http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/PXE , maybe it's a bit easier to download full centos dvd and install from it? It's a hardware issue with the server drive. Having said that, the CentOS net install CD is pretty small, so server's drive might read it enough to get going...

Re: [CentOS] trouble shooting slow ssh logins

2010-01-21 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message From: aurfal...@gmail.com aurfal...@gmail.com To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Sent: Thu, 21 January, 2010 20:07:27 Subject: Re: [CentOS] trouble shooting slow ssh logins aurfal...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I noticed that my ssh logins to a

Re: [CentOS] raid1 creation :: not large enough to join array

2010-01-16 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message From: Adrian Sevcenco adrian.sevce...@cern.ch To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Sent: Sat, 16 January, 2010 15:27:12 Subject: [CentOS] raid1 creation :: not large enough to join array Hi! I have 2 identical hdd (1002FBYS) with the same firmware, etc ..

Re: [CentOS] 5.4 DVD

2009-10-23 Thread Ian Murray
The dates are likely based on when the ISO was actually created. Therefore, if the ISO was generated on Oct. 1st and no issues were found with it in QA, then the date you are seeing on the mirrors is correct. The ISOs are based on the original 5.4 tree and don't include updates that Red Hat

Re: [CentOS] the ongoing wait for centos 5.4

2009-10-18 Thread Ian Murray
Here's the way I'm going to take care of the problem. Figure eight weeks out for CentOS from the time Red Hat is released. If it gets done quicker than that, I've got a bonus.! ...and ignore any announcements in the meantime, as they may be red-herrings? Take a I'll believe it when I see it

Re: [CentOS] the ongoing wait for centos 5.4

2009-10-18 Thread Ian Murray
Irrespective of the discussions about the release procedure and visibility, etc, I'd like to thank everyone that put effort into making the CentOS 5.4 release happen.. I know I won't be alone in wishing to express thanks. ___ CentOS mailing

Re: [CentOS] Xen Kernel 2.6.18-164 and Hypervisor 3.3.1 problem.

2009-09-17 Thread Ian Murray
I've got about a dozen machines which are running the -164 kernel in the dom0 with about 20 VM's running various kernels under there for i386 and x86_64 with no problems. your problem is most likely caused due to issues in the non CentOS components. Thanks for the response. Where did

Re: [CentOS] Xen Kernel 2.6.18-164 and Hypervisor 3.3.1 problem.

2009-09-17 Thread Ian Murray
Where did you get the hypervisor from and what version are you running? This is the CentOs list, and I tend to run my stuff as close to the distro tree as possible. Then that might be why we are having different experiences with the new kernel. I'll take it to the Xen list. Thanks for

Re: [CentOS] Xen Kernel 2.6.18-164 and Hypervisor 3.3.1 problem.

2009-09-17 Thread Ian Murray
. On 09/17/2009 08:39 AM, Ian Murray wrote: Where did you get the hypervisor from and what version are you running? This is the CentOs list, and I tend to run my stuff as close to the distro tree as possible. -- Karanbir Singh : http://www.karan.org/ : 2522...@icq

[CentOS] Xen Kernel 2.6.18-164 and Hypervisor 3.3.1 problem.

2009-09-16 Thread Ian Murray
Hi, I just upgraded the my Dom0 kernel on my Xen machine and it failed to boot. The hypervisor itself comes from the Gitco repository. I couldn't catch the exact reason, other than it said something about no proper root and failing to synch. It rebooted a second or so later and I can't seem to

Re: [CentOS] self signing certificates

2009-08-24 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message From: Jerry Geis ge...@pagestation.com To: CentOS ML centos@centos.org Sent: Monday, 24 August, 2009 14:32:00 Subject: [CentOS] self signing certificates hi all, I have gone through the process of self signing certificates. Aside from the pop-ups about

Re: [CentOS] virt-manager crashes Host during installation of guest

2009-08-21 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message From: Kai Schaetzl mailli...@conactive.com To: centos@centos.org Sent: Friday, 21 August, 2009 10:31:22 Subject: Re: [CentOS] virt-manager crashes Host during installation of guest Ian Murray wrote on Fri, 21 Aug 2009 02:09:04 + (GMT): [r...@xen

Re: [CentOS] virt-manager crashes Host during installation of guest

2009-08-20 Thread Ian Murray
Again, I think this is the wrong way to go, it's outdated. I've never done it this way and I think this How-To is derived from very old Xen versions and got updated a few times over time without changing the basics. It *may* work, but it's complicated to follow and overly complex, e.g.

Re: [CentOS] needs help about vps

2009-08-20 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message From: ann kok oiyan...@yahoo.ca To: centos@centos.org Sent: Thursday, 20 August, 2009 15:10:09 Subject: [CentOS] needs help about vps hi all anyone have experience about vps which one is better? Depends what you are trying to do run multiple

Re: [CentOS] virt-manager crashes Host during installation of guest

2009-08-20 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message From: Kai Schaetzl mailli...@conactive.com To: centos@centos.org Sent: Thursday, 20 August, 2009 19:31:21 Subject: Re: [CentOS] virt-manager crashes Host during installation of guest Ian Murray wrote on Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:21:33 + (GMT): Actual, virt

Re: [CentOS] virt-manager crashes Host during installation of guest

2009-08-19 Thread Ian Murray
This (and other replies) lead me to two possible culprits: - either the graphical console over X11 is not a good idea (but I can't imagine that, it shouldn't shoot the kernel) - I always installed as a paravirtualized machine, Could it be that the install-kernel on the 5.3-media is

Re: [CentOS] virt-manager crashes Host during installation of guest

2009-08-18 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message From: Bernhard Gschaider bgschaid_li...@ice-sf.at To: centos@centos.org Sent: Tuesday, 18 August, 2009 18:56:36 Subject: [CentOS] virt-manager crashes Host during installation of guest Hi! I have the following problem: I have a server (CentOS 5.3 x86_64)

Re: [CentOS] Kernel NULL pointer vulnerability

2009-08-16 Thread Ian Murray
There is a very large issue with all people running VPS machines that are waiting for upgrades. Why are VPS's any more affected than bare-metal machines? It will be greatly ironic if Redhat release the fix after they release 5.4, or as part of 5.4. I will try not to say I told you so.

Re: [CentOS] OT: Fortunate clueless dd chum - lvm recovery

2009-08-14 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message From: Chan Chung Hang Christopher christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Sent: Friday, 14 August, 2009 3:31:32 Subject: [CentOS] OT: Fortunate clueless dd chum - lvm recovery Looks like the chum did not have to lose any data.

Re: [CentOS] OT: Fortunate clueless dd chum - lvm recovery

2009-08-14 Thread Ian Murray
- Original Message From: Chan Chung Hang Christopher christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Sent: Friday, 14 August, 2009 10:00:41 Subject: Re: [CentOS] OT: Fortunate clueless dd chum - lvm recovery First of all, I would dd a copy of the

Re: [CentOS] Slow IDE on GeForce 8200 board

2009-08-12 Thread Ian Murray
/2009 01:34 AM, Ian Murray wrote: ... Under Ubuntu (NB the drive was under /dev/sdb under Ubuntu - is this a clue?!?):- Some HP machines have the same symptoms you describe: Slow disk IO with CentOS, fast with Fedora. The cure is to append hda=noprobe hdc=noprobe to the startup parameters

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-12 Thread Ian Murray
This applies to 5.X as it stands, as 4.X. Once RH 5.4 hits the streets, then CentOS 5 users will be in the same boat. I would hope nobody feels they are getting beaten up about this. The intention is not to beat anybody up. Anyway, I am going to try *really* hard not to post on the matter

Re: [CentOS] [Off-list] Slow IDE on GeForce 8200 board

2009-08-12 Thread Ian Murray
list centos@centos.org Sent: Wednesday, 12 August, 2009 9:10:32 Subject: Re: [CentOS] [Off-list] Slow IDE on GeForce 8200 board -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ian Murray wrote: Okay, I stand corrected. Not new to the net, though... and I know threading is not done per subject. I

Re: [CentOS] [Off-list] Slow IDE on GeForce 8200 board

2009-08-12 Thread Ian Murray
] Slow IDE on GeForce 8200 board On Aug 12, 2009, at 6:23 AM, Ian Murray murra...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: If anybody feels they must send complaints, execute personal vendettas, issue death threats, etc please do it off-list. actually, enforcing community norms in public is useful and important

Re: [CentOS] [Off-list] Slow IDE on GeForce 8200 board

2009-08-11 Thread Ian Murray
Schaetzl mailli...@conactive.com To: centos@centos.org Sent: Tuesday, 11 August, 2009 10:31:21 Subject: Re: [CentOS] [Off-list] Slow IDE on GeForce 8200 board Ian Murray wrote on Tue, 11 Aug 2009 05:51:05 + (GMT): I hit reply and changed the subject. Please stop doing that. That's what I

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-11 Thread Ian Murray
vent /vent smirk Long live the kings /smirk -Ray I must admit, may be I missed something here, but there seems to be quite a bit of outpouring of appreciation on this thread. I am sure that all that give up their time and effort to make CentOS happen really deserve all the thanks and

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-11 Thread Ian Murray
at least. From: Ron Blizzard rb4cen...@gmail.com To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Sent: Tuesday, 11 August, 2009 22:06:05 Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Les Mikeselllesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: Ian Murray

Re: [CentOS] Slow IDE on GeForce 8200 board

2009-08-11 Thread Ian Murray
: Alexander Georgiev alexander.georg...@gmail.com To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Sent: Tuesday, 11 August, 2009 8:57:17 Subject: Re: [CentOS] Slow IDE on GeForce 8200 board 2009/8/11 Ian Murray murra...@yahoo.co.uk: In my haste for help, I stupidly hit reply and changed the subject which I

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-11 Thread Ian Murray
I believe it is better to make a different choice of distro, than to ask for substantial changes in the current one, especially if other people should do that extra work for you. Believe what you like, but I believe it's better to raise my concern for discussion in the first instance. For the

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-11 Thread Ian Murray
You are probably right there. I lost interest in Linux for ages because of what RH did. It was CentOS that re-ignited my interest. I felt like I could 'get back' what I had lost when Redhat killed RHL. I didn't 'get' the security implications of the rebuild stuff til it was explained to me the

[CentOS] Slow IDE on GeForce 8200 board

2009-08-10 Thread Ian Murray
I have a system who's normal activity is running Xen 3.3.1 with Centos 5.3 as the DomU. I had reason to connect an IDE drive to the single IDE interface that this board has. I was getting slow performance. hdparm -t revealed that the thoughput was down to just 2.7 MB/sec. After some tweaking

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-09 Thread Ian Murray
I've rambled on too long. But seriously, what is you want? CentOS is a great Linux distribution, so what's the problem? The 'progress' I am talking about it making those 4 million installs into 5 million installs, if that is important. (I wish 4 mill installs hadn't been raised, because on

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-09 Thread Ian Murray
People who do not understand the technical issues involved do not see why we can't just snap our fingers and put out the packages ... well, we can't. What you explain makes perfect sense and so thanks for taking the time to explain. I was only basing my understanding on what Karanbir wrote on

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-09 Thread Ian Murray
...@centos.org To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Sent: Sunday, 9 August, 2009 13:54:50 Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure Johnny Hughes wrote: Ian Murray wrote: snip WRT to the one valid issue that you raise ... let me explain the TECHNICAL reason why you can not release

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-09 Thread Ian Murray
Well, I know I have benefited from the discussion because I understand the challenges that face the CentOS team with regards to security updates whilst they are rebuilding a point release. As has been pointed out to me, we're between a rock and a hard-place and it isn't just a simple matter of

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-08 Thread Ian Murray
I can't say I have been following this thread in its entirety, but the beauty (?) of free speech is that even the ill-informed get to have a say. :o) Anyway, I think there is a general problem with the name Community ENterprise OS. Well, Community can't refer to us users because every O/S has a

Re: [CentOS] CentOS Project Infrastructure

2009-08-08 Thread Ian Murray
4 million unique machines do not agree with you, regardless of what you want to believe. I don't think the machines have an opinion, either way. :o) Seriously, I suppose you are using the '4 million machines we must be doing something right' argument which is fair comment, if perhaps a

Re: [CentOS] modern motherboard for centos-5

2009-07-15 Thread Ian Murray
and it's working fine for what I wanted. From: Ned Slider n...@unixmail.co.uk To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org Sent: Tuesday, 14 July, 2009 23:54:15 Subject: Re: [CentOS] modern motherboard for centos-5 Scott Silva wrote: on 7-6-2009 2:50 AM Ian Murray

Re: [CentOS] modern motherboard for centos-5

2009-07-06 Thread Ian Murray
I think these drivers were merged into a the kernel a bit later in the kernel than CentOS uses, although am a bit surprised upstream didn't backport. Before I set the machine up for proper, I tried a live Ubuntu disk which recognised the ethernet no problem, which lead me to figuring out what

Re: [CentOS] modern motherboard for centos-5

2009-07-05 Thread Ian Murray
Well, despite what you say about ASUS, I recently bought an M3N78-VM (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/152752 - although the net card specs are wrong) because it was cheap and it supported 8gb. The only problem was the lack for forcedeth drivers in standard CentOS, which I download from somewhere