Re: [CentOS] Retrieving POP mail from server to server

2010-08-13 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:57:22AM +0100, James Hogarth wrote: And yes I'd suggest fetchmail scripted to do this (given it is a one off) Or fetchmail plus procmail to get it to the proper place. Whit ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

Re: [CentOS] Ext3 undelete

2010-08-12 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 02:26:00PM -0700, Don Krause wrote: http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html That's an excellent little program. It can take some mucking about to find the invocation that will save a particular file or set of files, but it often can get the job done. It's

Re: [CentOS] Iptables questions

2010-08-10 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 04:30:16PM -0400, Bob Hoffman wrote: I am interested in doing a number of security ideas to the firewall, iptables, on my webserver. If you have a program you would suggest or believe iptables is the proper solution, please feel free to post that. For a set of useful

Re: [CentOS] Iptables questions

2010-08-10 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 07:12:59PM -0400, Bob Hoffman wrote: I have a server sitting right on the net and the constant barrage of 100s of Ips trying thousands of times at port 22 is insane. You're quite sane. Anyone likely to hit your ssh at its new port is likely to try port 22 first. So if

Re: [CentOS] Downgrade libgcc gcc packages (is there a clean way)

2010-08-09 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 01:06:15PM -0500, Dan Burkland wrote: I have been tasked with fixing one of our CentOS boxes by somehow downgrading the libgcc and gcc packages to a specific version (Required by the Oracle Grid Control client). Normally I'd just remove and reinstall the packages

Re: [CentOS] xen vs kvm for virtualization on centos/rhel?

2010-08-09 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 03:17:10PM -0400, Bobby wrote: I recommend using VirtualBOX from Sun. Close to wire speed, no need to alter the kernel. Simple and flexible to use. No need to alter the kernel for KVM either. VirtualBox formerly from Sun has been gathering bugs since Oracle took over.

Re: [CentOS] xen vs kvm for virtualization on centos/rhel?

2010-08-09 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Mon, Aug 09, 2010 at 11:11:59PM +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote: Do you have some data to back this up ? Yes. Search for my contributions to the VirtualBox forums and the VirtualBox bug reporting system. Also check for what experiences others are reporting there. I'm sure you'll agree it would

Re: [CentOS] mirrors down?

2010-08-05 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 10:07:33AM -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: http://mirror.harvard.edu, not exactly an obscure mirror, and it times out. Doesn't look to be a mirror.harvard.edu in DNS. From yum -d9 update: yum update runs instantly for me from NYC just now. Yum was working a half-hour

Re: [CentOS] Dogs, trolls, and neighborly free/open source

2010-08-04 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 12:56:47PM +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: I'm Middle Eastern and I subscribe to the list to search it, not to ask redundant questions. I'm still a noob and I did recently ask a question that I could not google, but your generalization is a bit broad. I should also note

Re: [CentOS] how to dual boot centos with redhat?

2010-08-03 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 09:10:39AM -0400, Scott Robbins wrote: There is also the lighter, and at this point, probably less feature-ful VirtualBox, of course. VirtualBox works ... until it doesn't. Quality control, in my experience (it would really take a survey of hundreds of users to be

Re: [CentOS] how to dual boot centos with redhat?

2010-08-03 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 10:13:39AM -0400, Tom H wrote: Hadi's emails go straight to trash for me but I see responses to his queries. He regularly posts similar questions to three lists to which I subscribe: http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2010-August/097561.html On my centos

Re: [CentOS] When should LVM be used?

2010-07-30 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 04:11:17PM -0500, Ron Blizzard wrote: Is there any way to mount an LVM partition from another Linux distribution? Yes. They all support it. You might have to install a package for it, but it's been standard for a few years pretty much across the board. Whit

Re: [CentOS] wget and resulting filenames with mirror option

2010-07-28 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 08:51:29PM +, Joseph L. Casale wrote: When it begins mirroring it, it see's urls like this: https://10.0.0.61/folder/vm-name/Disc-1-flat.vmdk?dcPath=ha-datacenterdsName=Datastore_2 so the resulting file downloaded is not Disc-1-flat.vmdk, but:

Re: [CentOS] how to install centos on the attached external usb hard disk?

2010-07-26 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:44:33AM -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Or tell it to boot from it, rather than hitting the hard drive or CD/DVD first? BIOSs can be strange here too. Some, you tell 'em to boot from USB, and they'll obey that just as long as the USB drive is plugged in on each boot.

Re: [CentOS] Building an install disk on a USB key manually or using unetbootin

2010-07-22 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 05:09:22PM -0500, David wrote: Has anyone successfully built a USB key for installing centos5.5 either manually or using a tool like unetbootin? Haven't tried it for CentOS, but unetbootin hasn't worked for me for several other distros. Not once. Not sure why I even

Re: [CentOS] Building an install disk on a USB key manually or using unetbootin

2010-07-22 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 05:52:50PM -0500, David wrote: That is discouraging news. On the other hand, I've done USB installs of other distros that worked just fine. But those weren't set up with unetbootin. You could probably get away with, say, putting System Rescue Disk on a USB key, using that

Re: [CentOS] Odd fsck problem

2010-07-20 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 11:10:45AM -0700, Benjamin Franz wrote: I've seen e2fsck hang on large arrays (terabyte range) before, particularly if you have lots of hard links. It's a bug in fsck. I've see that too. Glad it's not just on my systems ... sorta. Whit

Re: [CentOS] DSL battling rojter - help!

2010-07-18 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 07:58:02AM -0700, Mark wrote: And after that I can't reach the modem or the internet. If I run ifdown eth0 and then ifup eth0, I get the 192.168.0.100 IP address back, and I can reach the modem, but not the internet. What do you see with ip ro ls? Is there a default

Re: [CentOS] DSL battling rojter - help!

2010-07-18 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 09:34:06AM -0700, Mark wrote: What do you see with ip ro ls? Is there a default route? Yes, but it's going to the router even when the router is not in the loop. Generally when someone asks What do you see in a computer context, the right answer is to run the command

Re: [CentOS] Desktop Supercomputer

2010-07-17 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 03:01:32AM +0530, Rajagopal Swaminathan wrote: On 7/18/10, Jerry Franz jfr...@freerun.com wrote: Everything you listed is interactive realtime or near-realtime graphics intensive. A cloud is not really suited to that kind of task to begin with. I don't

Re: [CentOS] DomU install failure for Centos 5.5 using the RHEL 5.4 and greater OS option

2010-07-15 Thread Whit Blauvelt
In using virt-install, and then virt-viewer to create a CentOS 5.5 x64 guest (in my case for KVM), using the text mode for the install, it failed on me in a similar way just if I added extra package groups - just stalled. It went forward successfully if I just went with the standard default at

Re: [CentOS] Linux Kernel Physical Interface Limit

2010-07-14 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 09:51:51AM -0500, Tim Nelson wrote: Even if the limit were lower, such as 10 physical interfaces as mentioned before, I have to imagine that the host system would have issues dealing with the number of interrupts needed to *PROPERLY* service all of those interfaces in

Re: [CentOS] Linux Kernel Physical Interface Limit

2010-07-14 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 08:52:02AM -0700, Benjamin Franz wrote: Filed some bug reports, and it was evident from the response that very, very few Linux users ever go 4 eth's on a system. Thus the lack of properly debugged IPv6 support for that then. Fortunately I don't (yet) need IPv6.

Re: [CentOS] Xen cpu requirements

2010-07-14 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 01:47:00PM -0500, David Dyer-Bennet wrote: I found one BIOS entry, Virtualization technology; it was initially disabled, but I enabled it before I installed CENTOS, and verified that it was still enabled later (I reported enabling it in my original message). I'll

Re: [CentOS] Redundant LAN routing possible?

2010-07-10 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 05:21:50AM +0800, Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote: e.g. System A eth0 - lan switch/router 1 eth1 - lan switch/router 2 System B eth0 - lan switch 1 eth1 - lan switch 2 Then somehow specify that, if lan switch 1 fails, the two systems will switch to using switch 2 so

Re: [CentOS] OT: ?? Centos Still Broken, Red Hat won't fix ??

2010-07-08 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 06:35:47PM -0400, Joshua Baker-LePain wrote: It has been stated many times and on many fora that Red Hat's bugzilla is not a mechanism for support. They are under no obligation to address issues raised there. Is it nice when they do? Absolutely. There are two

Re: [CentOS] security compliance vs. old software versions

2010-07-06 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 05:21:36PM -0400, John Hinton wrote: My point is these 'security metrics' businesses that are paid, generally by credit card companies, to do these software scans and don't ever do these most basic checks. Not that my quoted text is the name of one of these

Re: [CentOS] Samba and (and maybe other characters) in paths/files

2010-06-30 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 08:47:17AM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: Ross Walker wrote: In my world I have two parts of the file system, one containing OS and apps that runs short-name standard and the other where the user data files are contained that uses long names and sometimes unicode names,

Re: [CentOS] Upgrading MySQLdb

2010-06-28 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 08:54:49AM -0400, Jim Perrin wrote: 2010/6/28 Tsuyoshi Nagata nagata...@jp.fujitsu.com: Your answer is just install MySQL5.1 from source code.(make install) That's a horrible idea. At least use the package management system so that dependencies can be tracked

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization as cheap redundancy option?

2010-06-28 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 07:25:59AM -0600, Warren Young wrote: On 6/25/2010 8:33 AM, Brian Mathis wrote: - VMware Server seems like it's EOL, even though vmware hasn't specifically said so yet Given that there are known serious bugs in 2.0.2[*] and that release is now 8 months old, that

Re: [CentOS] Upgrading MySQLdb

2010-06-28 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 08:58:45AM -0400, Jim Perrin wrote: On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Susan Day suzieprogram...@gmail.com wrote: Hi; I've got MySQLdb installed (bridge to Python) and I can't figure out how to upgrade it. I did a find and got these paths:

Re: [CentOS] Upgrading MySQLdb

2010-06-28 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 09:49:21AM -0400, Jim Perrin wrote: It actually counts for probably 20-30% of all the support necessary on the irc channels with people trying to update php/mysql or similar from source. A large part of that problem is that people are asking for support in the wrong

Re: [CentOS] Virtualization as cheap redundancy option?

2010-06-28 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 09:06:43AM -0700, John R Pierce wrote: I second the emotion on VBox, its a nice piece of work. Read the license carefully, however. Its no longer free for use as a server in a business environment, only free for 'personal' use. Larry needs a new boat. They

Re: [CentOS] Upgrading MySQLdb

2010-06-28 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 11:48:48AM -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Les Mikesell wrote: On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 09:49:21AM -0400, Jim Perrin wrote: No, the fact that your ability to 'yum update' and have the right thing happen is broken is a big problem regardless of who/where you ask for

Re: [CentOS] Upgrading MySQLdbyg

2010-06-28 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 11:58:14AM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: That's why I always thoroughly log all stuff installed by hand, along with extra configuration steps taken with RPM-installed items, and make sure the log's someplace where the next person can find it. In our case we maintain

Re: [CentOS] Migrating away from Nagios

2010-06-21 Thread Whit Blauvelt
Jane Curry wrote: I'd try Zenoss. I wrote a big paper comparing Nagios, OpenNMS and Zenoss ( http://www.skills-1st.co.uk/papers/jane/open_source_mgmt_options.html ) Thanks for sharing that, Jane. Great paper. On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 07:40:10AM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: Also OpenNMS

Re: [CentOS] How to specify the default route?

2010-06-21 Thread Whit Blauvelt
It's getting set from /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-eth, line 285 and following - although I haven't traced out the logic it's using to begin to say why it's coming to the wrong conclusion in your case. Whit On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 07:57:13PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: I have a machine

Re: [CentOS] How to specify the default route?

2010-06-21 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On the other hand, which interface is listed in the /etc/sysconfig/network file? Is it your desired default? Whit On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 07:57:13PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote: I have a machine with two net interfaces. it seems to always pick the wrong one (eth1) as the default route.

Re: [CentOS] Ganglia

2010-06-18 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 08:22:35PM -0500, John R. Dennison wrote: Is this vitriol really necessary? I installed ganglia; not a single conflict. Why yes, John, it is. The fine man said outright he didn't believe my honest account, accusing me of making something up when I was only

Re: [CentOS] Ganglia

2010-06-18 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 08:10:29PM -0500, John R. Dennison wrote: On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 08:01:02PM -0400, Joshua Baker-LePain wrote: That being said, it's trivial to recompile the F13 RPM for 3.1.2 for centos-5. And that would be the proper route to go instead of building

Re: [CentOS] Ganglia

2010-06-18 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 08:19:46PM -0500, John R. Dennison wrote: I just tried a ganglia install from EPEL; absolutely no issues at all. Perhaps if you'd bother to actually document these conflicts one of us might be able to help. That is if we're still willing. Now

Re: [CentOS] Ganglia

2010-06-18 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 08:19:46PM -0500, John R. Dennison wrote: If there were a good CentOS build of 3.1.7 I'd happily use it. But getting stuff from EPEL, which is essentially Redhat testing, is as silly as mixing Uh, you've confused EPEL and Fedora apparently. Hey John,

Re: [CentOS] Upgrade

2010-06-18 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 02:29:32PM -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: And as others have said, /home, and maybe /opt, should *always* be other drives, or at least other partitions Kind of makes you wonder why RH's default install is to shove everything but boot into one partition these days,

Re: [CentOS] the Postfix packages are way too old

2010-06-18 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 02:28:36PM -0700, Florin Andrei wrote: Fun fact: Postfix-2.3.3 has been released in August 2006. Think about that. To be fair, RH/CentOS also ships with Sendmail-8.13.8, also from August 2006. What a golden month for mail daemons that was. The door's wide open for

Re: [CentOS] Kernel independent OCFS2 packages for RHEL, Scientific Linux and CentOS

2010-06-18 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 03:20:13AM +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote: But you are still making repeated announcements about packages here - I dont want to see every repo or development unit out there posting emails here for feedback about every component they built. Please keep things in

[CentOS] Ganglia

2010-06-17 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 04:07:57PM +0100, Simon Billis wrote: Take a look at ganglia - http://ganglia.sourceforge.net/ This may do what you need. It's what I've ended up going with. (Munin also looked promising - if I could get the syntax right to modify its CPU test for individual cores,

Re: [CentOS] Ganglia

2010-06-17 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 12:37:11AM +0100, Karanbir Singh wrote: On 17/06/2010 23:20, Whit Blauvelt wrote: - best complied from source, there are big dependency problems with the available rpms I find that very hard to believe - to the extent that I don't believe you at all. Or did you

Re: [CentOS] Ganglia

2010-06-17 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 06:51:52PM -0500, John R. Dennison wrote: Very few packages are ever best compiled from source on an enterprise distro. What, specifically, is wrong with the 3.0.7 in EPEL? Um, that yum install ganglia produces a long list of package conflicts on a

Re: [CentOS] Cacti/snmp question

2010-06-16 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 02:28:51AM -0700, John Doe wrote: I was able to make some plugins without too much problems (even discovered perl in the process)... Agreed, it's easy enough to write Nagios plugins. I've done that too. Then PNP will automaticaly plot these values... but yes, if you

Re: [CentOS] Cacti/snmp question

2010-06-16 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 08:01:26AM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: If have firewalling to protect from security issues, why not just run an older version of cacti? Sensible suggestion. One, it's not obvious where to find an older version. Two, hours of attempting to get cacti to work have led me

Re: [CentOS] Cacti/snmp question

2010-06-15 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 03:31:42AM -0700, John Doe wrote: You could just use PNP and a custom script... http://docs.pnp4nagios.org/ PNP looks like a great project, when it matures. Someday it will be the obvious answer, once someone writes a Nagios plugin that captures per-core CPU load rather

Re: [CentOS] problems building nfdump / nfsen

2010-06-14 Thread Whit Blauvelt
rpmforge has it. For instance # yum list | grep rrd ... rrdtool-devel.x86_64 1.4.3-3.el5.rfrpmforge ... - Whit ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

[CentOS] Cacti/snmp question

2010-06-14 Thread Whit Blauvelt
Hi, Trying to follow the recipe at http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Cacti_on_CentOS_4.x Which has a bit of an update for 5.x, but no joy. Anyone know what this from Cacti should suggest? Data Query Debug Information + Running data query [9]. + Found type = '6 '[script query]. + Found data query

Re: [CentOS] Cacti/snmp question

2010-06-14 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 04:38:17PM -0400, Mathew S. McCarrell wrote: I don't have an exact answer for you but you may find this tutorial useful. http://docs.cslabs.clarkson.edu/wiki/Install_Cacti_on_CentOS_5 Thanks. That summarizes nicely the steps I've taken. It's a bit better put

Re: [CentOS] Cacti/snmp question

2010-06-14 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 10:41:06PM +0200, Detlef Peeters wrote: You can try Munin for this. Thanks. Hadn't look at that. A lively project in current development - always good. Can't find anything about whether it can specifically graph separate CPU core use - guess I'll have to install it and

Re: [CentOS] Cacti/snmp question

2010-06-14 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 03:55:10PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: I happen to like OpenNMS (http://www.opennms.org) but it is considerably more complicated than cacti to set up. Thanks. I don't mind complicated if the documentation is clear. Cacti is in that fuzzy area where it's not quite

Re: [CentOS] Cacti/snmp question

2010-06-14 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 05:46:16PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: The big difference is that OpenNMS typically needs no agent or per-host configuration because it works with snmp and auto-discovery of most services - and it handles routers/switches as well has hosts. Getting off my topic, but

Re: [CentOS] MooseFS repository

2010-06-13 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 06:15:04PM +0200, Laurent Wandrebeck wrote: All I can say is that I created that repo to be able to deploy it at work and home :) I just wanted to share it, Anyone here have long-term experience with MooseFS? Is it solidly reliable? Thanks, Whit

Re: [CentOS] PHP file upload limit

2010-06-09 Thread Whit Blauvelt
2010/6/9 Boris Epstein borepst...@gmail.com: I have no problem setting my upload limit ( upload_max_filesize ) to 1 GB but for some reason 2 GB or above seems to be no go. Would anybody know why? Could it be one of the many 32-bit vs 64-bit issues? Other PHP settings, like post_max_size,

Re: [CentOS] OT: SysAdmin Stories

2010-06-06 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Sun, Jun 06, 2010 at 08:22:22PM +0100, James Bensley wrote: redundancy, connectivity etc...) only to have something fail the next day (so it really paid off!) and then nothing has broken since?...Just goes to show you never know! Also recently upgraded my personal Ubuntu server to a RAID

Re: [CentOS] update from 4.8 to 5.4?

2010-06-04 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Fri, Jun 04, 2010 at 04:33:05PM -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: It is officially (according to RH, AFAIK) NOT recommended to go up a full release by update. Subreleases are fine, but you want a clean install for a new release (that is, 4.x to 5.x). Ah, so that's still the RH way! That's why

Re: [CentOS] 24G running on centos 5 desktop.

2010-06-02 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 12:44:41PM -0700, John R Pierce wrote: and, yes, it ran CP/M, 1.4, then later 2.2 With ZCPR? Whit ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Unable to execute a script , Permission denied

2010-05-25 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 05:57:46PM +0530, Jatin Davey wrote: I have a linux box which has CentOS running in it. I logged into the box using root and wrote a script in the /home/proc_threads directory. saved the file and quit. I changed the file permissions such that any user could execute

Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4

2010-05-25 Thread Whit Blauvelt
as to why ... but it doesn't. I wonder if the more recent X version of Samba is likely to work better, or of the breakage here is related to using smbpasswd? Whit On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 09:21:28AM -0400, Whit Blauvelt wrote: We've got a fresh CentOS 5.4 box, and the only glitch so far

Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4

2010-05-25 Thread Whit Blauvelt
Finally, a clue! Upgraded from the stock smbd version from the 5.4 iso to 3.0.33-3.28.el5, and now an error message makes it into /var/log/messages: May 24 15:29:12 xyz smbd[2674]: [2010/05/24 15:29:12, 0] lib/messages.c:message_init(132) May 24 15:29:12 xyz smbd[2674]: ERROR: Failed to

Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4

2010-05-25 Thread Whit Blauvelt
/etc/init.d/smb start or smbd -D? All ideas are welcome. I'm seeing with the Google that Samba has long been fragile about this stuff - but haven't found the fix yet. Whit On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 04:56:30PM -0400, Whit Blauvelt wrote: May 24 15:29:12 xyz smbd[2674]: [2010/05/24 15:29:12, 0

Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4

2010-05-25 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 05:38:59PM -0400, Robert Heller wrote: Wondering aloud: where the smbpasswd *data* files copied? If so how, exactly? And from what version of samba were the smbpasswd *data* created with? And are the permissions of the smbpasswd *data* what they should be? Just

Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4

2010-05-25 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 05:47:00PM -0400, Robert Heller wrote: Was this file *copied* from the Redhat 5.4 system(s) or created fresh under CentOS? If you mean /etc/init.d/smb, it's CentOS's version. The entire difference between the two, just for the record, is: # diff smb /etc/init.d/smb

Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4

2010-05-25 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 06:05:34PM -0400, Whit Blauvelt wrote: where smb is RH's version and /etc/init.d/smb is Cent's. I can't quite imagine that a difference between overwriting or appending path.txt is at the root of what I'm seeing though. Correction: that wasn't a virgin version

Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4

2010-05-25 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 06:09:40PM -0400, Whit Blauvelt wrote: Correction: that wasn't a virgin version of Cent's. More in a moment. This gets more bizarre. To a virgin version of Cent's /etc/init.d/smb - it's a perfect match: # diff ./smb /etc/init.d/smb # That's right, no diff! Yet if I

Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4

2010-05-25 Thread Whit Blauvelt
Hi Brian, I've been all over the environment comparisons before, I think. The question currently is: What can be the difference between /home/smb restart - which works, and /etc/init.d/smb restart - which fails when a diff between the two smb files shows no difference? This is with both of

Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4

2010-05-25 Thread Whit Blauvelt
Les, At risk of clogging mail boxes, see below, and note this line in the middle: open(/var/cache/samba/messages.tdb, O_RDWR|O_CREAT, 0600) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) Now, if I copy that modified smb file elsewhere and run it, for one difference output stops without returning to prompt

Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4

2010-05-25 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 06:23:02PM -0400, Todd Denniston wrote: I have not been following this thread closely, but perhaps Robert was pointing at SELINUX and the need to keep the SE permissions intact as you copy/edit the file. i.e. you may need to: A) restorecon /etc/init.d/smb and any

Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4

2010-05-25 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 04:33:53PM -0700, Jerry Franz wrote: Are you running with SELinux on? Now there's a good question, it turns out. I'd assumed CentOS followed the pattern of most distros in having it not be in strictest mode out-of-the-box, but in /etc/selinux/config: SELINUX=enforcing

Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4 - it's that fine SELinux

2010-05-25 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 07:55:12PM -0400, Whit Blauvelt wrote: On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 04:33:53PM -0700, Jerry Franz wrote: Are you running with SELinux on? You were right Jerry! echo 0 /selinux/enforce and then /etc/init.d/smb restart works! Thank you much Jerry! Now why doesn't

Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4 - it's that fine SELinux

2010-05-25 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 07:46:56PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: I would have looked at selinux first for any odd failure, but I thought it related to the process itself and couldn't see any way that the process would be different when started as sh /etc/init.d/smb restart than simply

Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4 - it's that fine SELinux

2010-05-25 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 08:52:58PM -0400, Ross Walker wrote: Selinux alerts are in /var/log/audit/audit.log Thank you for that. Cryptic, but there it is. The problem is if smbd doesn't create the messages.tdb file then it won't have the selinux rights. I don't follow you. What else could

Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4 - it's that fine SELinux

2010-05-25 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 10:03:38PM -0400, Jason Pyeron wrote: If you look at it as the two different commands, then they may have different permissions, owners, contexts, etc... /bin/sh vs /etc/init.d/smb I am just logically guessing here but ... Let me follow your logic here. So the

Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4 - it's that fine SELinux

2010-05-25 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 09:09:33PM -0500, Jay Leafey wrote: In your case, there should have been AVC errors showing up in the audit log related to smbd. Using restorecon to fix up the security context on the files in /etc/samba might have resolved the issue quickly... but I guess the trick

Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4

2010-05-21 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:04:36AM -0400, Ross Walker wrote: By any chance did someone add smbd to xinetd? If so then xinetd has the port open and the smbd process will not bind. Nope. Not sure that would explain why a slight difference in how it's invoked, through the same init.d script,

Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4

2010-05-21 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:24:00AM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: The only difference here 'should' be that explicitly running 'sh' will invoke your own shell aliases and search PATH to execute sh, where if you omit it you'll get the #!/bin/sh interpreter specified in the script itself. Is

Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4

2010-05-21 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:54:26AM -0400, Ross Walker wrote: # sh -x script start The problem with debugging it like that is that when started with sh, there's no bug. Whit ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4

2010-05-21 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 12:52:51PM -0400, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: A suggestion: in the script, add env /tmp/smb.env or whatever you want to call it. Then you can compare and contrast with your environment. Good idea. I'll try it when the system's back up. Someone's hunting up a

Re: [CentOS] OT: Strange Email Problem

2010-05-21 Thread Whit Blauvelt
Do you know that it's going out with valid headers, a legal helo address, and the like? Many mail systems will use these as reasons to reject connections when they're wrong. In the case of bad helo values, often it won't get as far as the spam filter, since that's sent through before the message.

Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4

2010-05-21 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 03:39:53AM -0700, John Doe wrote: What's the return value? service smb start echo $? # service smb start Starting SMB services: [ OK ] Starting NMB services: # echo $? 0 # ps aux | grep mbd root 2520 0.0 0.0 107732

Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4

2010-05-21 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 08:52:31PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: What shell does the script specify at the top and what is found following $PATH? Here's from the console: # echo $PATH

Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4

2010-05-21 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 07:49:16AM -0400, Kwan Lowe wrote: My gut tells me it's not hardware but willing to take it :) Have you tried adding a set -x to the top of the the smb startup scripts? I didn't see any such output in your replies so far. Here you go: # ./smb start + '[' -f

Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4

2010-05-21 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 02:36:30PM -0400, Whit Blauvelt wrote: Here's the path seen within the init.d/smb script (from an inserted echo $PATH file): /sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin And if I set that path in a console session, smbd still works when called directly: # export PATH=/sbin:/usr

Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4

2010-05-21 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 03:12:02PM -0400, Ross Walker wrote: What happens when you manually try to execute the above commands? # /bin/bash -c 'ulimit -S -c 0 /dev/null 21 ; smbd -D' Not sure what that might in theory do, but it works: # ps aux | grep mbd | grep -v grep root 7870 0.0

[CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4

2010-05-20 Thread Whit Blauvelt
Hi, We've got a fresh CentOS 5.4 box, and the only glitch so far is that /etc/init.d/smb doesn't start smbd. It claims it does - shows [ok] - but only nmbd ends up running. Even setting a higher debugging level in the smbd flags, nothing logs or shows on the console as to why smbd is immediatly

Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4

2010-05-20 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 10:21:51AM -0400, Ryan Manikowski wrote: Have you run 'testparm' to verify the samba configuration does not contain any errors that are preventing the smbd daemon from loading? I had not. Doesn't seem to tell us anything: # testparm Load smb config files from

Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4

2010-05-20 Thread Whit Blauvelt
Does 'service smb restart' work after the rest of the system is up enough to log in? If so, maybe some of the underlying network services aren't ready when it starts at bootup. /etc/init.d/smb restart does not restart it. Shows an error on smb shutdown (of course, since it's not running),

Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4

2010-05-20 Thread Whit Blauvelt
Increase the debug level for smbd by adding -d N (N = 0 ... 10) to SMBDOPTIONS in /etc/sysconfig/samba, restart smbd. That was the first thing I tried. Nothing got logged or reported to console - at all. The nmbd logs showed up as requested, but for smbd, nada. Thanks for the suggestion,

Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4

2010-05-20 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 10:58:07AM -0400, Ryan Manikowski wrote: As your config appears to be clean and free of errors that would prevent smbd from starting have you... ...tried starting smbd from the command line NOT using the init scripts? Make sure nmbd is started first: nmbd -D Try

Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4

2010-05-20 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 11:41:22AM -0400, Whit Blauvelt wrote: . /etc/init.d/functions daemon smbd -D It also seems perfectly happy with just smbd -D to start it, after system startup. But the two lines above do not work when from /etc/rc.local. Haven't tried the simpler invocation

Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4

2010-05-20 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 10:58:07AM -0400, Ryan Manikowski wrote: Make sure nmbd is started first: nmbd -D You know, that's not the order the init.d/smb file has it in: start() { KIND=SMB echo -n $Starting $KIND services: daemon smbd $SMBDOPTIONS RETVAL=$?

Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4

2010-05-20 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 01:39:28PM -0400, Whit Blauvelt wrote: You know, that's not the order the init.d/smb file has it in: ... except that file matches the order of the stock Redhat file, which is working fine for us on several other systems. This is just strange. Whit

Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4

2010-05-20 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 12:47:50PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: That looks like the stock init file - but it might be a good idea to run 'rpm -V samba' to see if everything is standard. Running the init script with 'sh -x' might give you a hint about what it is doing - or you'll have to

Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4

2010-05-20 Thread Whit Blauvelt
More data: service smb restart - does NOT get smbd running (although shows OK) sh /etc/init.d/smb restart - DOES get smbd running The service man page claims the only environment variables it passes are LANG and TERM. But that can't be the key, since /etc/init.d/smb restart - does NOT get

Re: [CentOS] Odd failure of smbd to start from init.d - CentOS 5.4

2010-05-20 Thread Whit Blauvelt
Maybe try rpm -V samba to verify all the samba files. You get any output then you have problems. I take it this output: # rpm -V samba S.5T c /etc/rc.d/init.d/smb S.5T c /etc/samba/smbusers ...T c /etc/sysconfig/samba merely shows that these are files that don't precisely

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