Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
Thanks for your note. I'll wait for the final result. I trust fully in the development team. Mainly by the work done so far and stability achieved. Em 09-07-2011 14:32, Karanbir Singh escreveu: Hi, On 07/09/2011 05:23 PM, Edson - PMSS wrote: I really like CentOS, but it is undeniable the delay in the release of version 6.0. yes, we all clearly take that on board - I hope the changes we are bringing in helps clear that, and prevent this sort of a situation. But there are still lots of places for improvements, and over the next few months lets try and address all of those. - KB ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- Edson D. Amaral Pref. Mun. de São Sebastião - SP (12) 3891-2044 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
On 7/10/2011 8:15 AM, Edson - PMSS wrote: Thanks for your note. I'll wait for the final result. I trust fully in the development team. Mainly by the work done so far and stability achieved. Em 09-07-2011 14:32, Karanbir Singh escreveu: Hi, On 07/09/2011 05:23 PM, Edson - PMSS wrote: I really like CentOS, but it is undeniable the delay in the release of version 6.0. yes, we all clearly take that on board - I hope the changes we are bringing in helps clear that, and prevent this sort of a situation. But there are still lots of places for improvements, and over the next few months lets try and address all of those. - KB ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos What innovations will Cent 6 bring to the party in your opinion? --Hal. -- Hal Davison Observe Goal, Set the course, Burn the map Davison Consulting This correspondence was composed using Dragon Speaking Version 10 Peg#: 2007011701 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
On 07/10/2011 03:10 PM, Hal Davison wrote: What innovations will Cent 6 bring to the party in your opinion? http://www.redhat.com/about/news/prarchive/2010/new-standard.html Regards, Patrick ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Patrick Lists centos-l...@puzzled.xs4all.nl wrote: On 07/10/2011 03:10 PM, Hal Davison wrote: What innovations will Cent 6 bring to the party in your opinion? http://www.redhat.com/about/news/prarchive/2010/new-standard.html Regards, Patrick It's interesting how that article was released in November 2010 .. -- Kind Regards Rudi Ahlers SoftDux Website: http://www.SoftDux.com Technical Blog: http://Blog.SoftDux.com Office: 087 805 9573 Cell: 082 554 7532 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
Karanbir Singh mail-lists@... writes: Hi, On 07/09/2011 05:23 PM, Edson - PMSS wrote: I really like CentOS, but it is undeniable the delay in the release of version 6.0. yes, we all clearly take that on board - I hope the changes we are bringing in helps clear that, and prevent this sort of a situation. But there are still lots of places for improvements, and over the next few months lets try and address all of those. - KB Because I needed the 6.0 versions of dhcpd and named for some IPv6 testing I was doing, I grabbed Scientific Linux 6.0 right after it was released. I also signed up for the SL mailing list. A couple of weeks ago (June 20th or so) the SL folks announced the availability of SL 5.6. I would interpret this as the SL team chose to work on 6.0 and left 5.6 for later while the CentOS team worked on 5.6 and left 6.0 for later. I have no insight into what level of support the SL folks get from their sponsoring organization (CERN and Fermilab) but as far as I'm concerned getting the two releases out (5.6 and 6.0) was a dead heat between the two distributions. This is especially true if you consider that the SL team had the benefit of the CentOS team's experience with 5.6. I mention this because it indicates to me that the CentOS process isn't broken. On the other hand, if not getting 5.6 and 6.0 out sooner gets more people involved in helping, it may have long term benefits. These are just my observations on two different teams working to release the same two releases. Carefully consider what changes you make to the release process. Oh yeah, great job guys and, yes, I'll be moving the SL 6 boxes and VMs back to CentOS as time allows mainly because the community just isn't there for SL (most days the mailing list only has a dozen or so posts; most of them not very technical). Cheers, Dave ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
Just so you know, I believe almost all mirrors have 6.0 on their disks. On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 1:28 PM, David G. Miller d...@davenjudy.org wrote: Karanbir Singh mail-lists@... writes: Hi, On 07/09/2011 05:23 PM, Edson - PMSS wrote: I really like CentOS, but it is undeniable the delay in the release of version 6.0. yes, we all clearly take that on board - I hope the changes we are bringing in helps clear that, and prevent this sort of a situation. But there are still lots of places for improvements, and over the next few months lets try and address all of those. - KB Because I needed the 6.0 versions of dhcpd and named for some IPv6 testing I was doing, I grabbed Scientific Linux 6.0 right after it was released. I also signed up for the SL mailing list. A couple of weeks ago (June 20th or so) the SL folks announced the availability of SL 5.6. I would interpret this as the SL team chose to work on 6.0 and left 5.6 for later while the CentOS team worked on 5.6 and left 6.0 for later. I have no insight into what level of support the SL folks get from their sponsoring organization (CERN and Fermilab) but as far as I'm concerned getting the two releases out (5.6 and 6.0) was a dead heat between the two distributions. This is especially true if you consider that the SL team had the benefit of the CentOS team's experience with 5.6. I mention this because it indicates to me that the CentOS process isn't broken. On the other hand, if not getting 5.6 and 6.0 out sooner gets more people involved in helping, it may have long term benefits. These are just my observations on two different teams working to release the same two releases. Carefully consider what changes you make to the release process. Oh yeah, great job guys and, yes, I'll be moving the SL 6 boxes and VMs back to CentOS as time allows mainly because the community just isn't there for SL (most days the mailing list only has a dozen or so posts; most of them not very technical). Cheers, Dave ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
since you replied to my post I guess you're talking to me? If so you're wrong: *I* didn't post anything on qaweb.dev.centos.org , I'm just a centos user that went looking for information on that site, clicked on a few links/tabs and found the information I was looking for. Wasn't too hard, no neuronal overheat to report. But I still posted the direct link, so you and others can follow the progress without posting here every other day. I apologise my email was not directed at you ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
So IS IT OUT YET :) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
On 7/9/11, Mark Bradbury mark.bradb...@gmail.com wrote: So IS IT OUT YET :) http://qaweb.dev.centos.org/qa/node/105#comment-115 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote: IS IT OUT YET :) http://qaweb.dev.centos.org/qa/node/105#comment-115 Wouldn't it be simpler to add all these little extras together, and enter Probable appearance on mirrors on the calendar? -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
Yes it is! I'm in Brazil and I've downloaded the 64 bits (2 DVD's) and the 32 bits version. These are the mirrors that are activilly distributing now: http://centos.mirror.nexicom.net/6.0/isos/ http://centos.intergenia.de/6.0/isos/ http://mirror.ox.ac.uk/sites/mirror.centos.org/6.0/isos/ http://centos.builddesigncreate.com/mirror/6.0/isos/ http://centos.cs.wisc.edu/pub/mirrors/linux/centos/6.0/isos/ http://mirror.for.me.uk/centos/6.0/isos/ It is not available everywhere. They are putting on-line since 07/07/2011. From yesterday, they are slowly appearing in some coutries. Em 09-07-2011 09:59, Mark Bradbury escreveu: So IS IT OUT YET :) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- Edson D. Amaral Pref. Mun. de So Sebastio - SP (12) 3891-2044 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
On Sat, Jul 09, 2011 at 12:08:13PM -0300, Edson - PMSS wrote: Please fix your mail program to operate within RFC guidelines; your mail was only in html, that's not compliant with the standards - it requires a plain text version of your text as well. Please note that this mailing list has a policy against html-only mail: http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=16 CentOS-6 is not released yet; you are using leaked content which is subject to recall and reissue at any point before the official announcement on this mailing list as well as on http://www.centos.org. Hopefully the CentOS project will address the issues of the leaking mirrors at some point; from memory I seem to recall nexicom doing this in the past as well. Mirror admins should know better. John -- An expectation is a premeditated resentment. -- Nina Paley, Mimi Eunice, 14 September 2010, pgp4pITT273ch.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
On 07/08/2011 03:48 PM, Mark Bradbury wrote: Reading QA web site, fair estimate is it will take 2-3 days for us to be Bollocks. this IS the only place to post to, as information is sorely lacking. the centos user list isnt the best place to communicate process stuff. It has zero tolerance for constructive development around. if you just want stuff coming down to you, subscribe to the rss feed from the qaweb interface. - KB ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
On 07/08/2011 09:59 PM, Steven Crothers wrote: zero useful information on the development cycle, and discourages people to register and be a part of the community or development process What there makes you think that is the case ? Plenty of people have joined the efforts in the recent months and have made a massive impact on stuff. I think you are just taking a dig at those people for making the efforts and for actually doing something constructive. or if you think there is some aspect of that site which causes people to think that they cant help or get involved, then do share - lets see how we can improve that. there is definitely a lot of scope for people to join, help and make things better - and quite a few have. - KB ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
I intend to use the iso images I downloaded for testing and not in a production environment. As there was not found the md5sum and sha1sum files to check the isos. I agree with your recommendation, because in terms of safety, it is best to wait a little longer. I really like CentOS, but it is undeniable the delay in the release of version 6.0. The big advantage is that it aroused the interest of other Linux distributions such as Scientific, ClearOS and Oracle Linux. Em 09-07-2011 13:02, Karanbir Singh escreveu: On 07/08/2011 09:59 PM, Steven Crothers wrote: zero useful information on the development cycle, and discourages people to register and be a part of the community or development process What there makes you think that is the case ? Plenty of people have joined the efforts in the recent months and have made a massive impact on stuff. I think you are just taking a dig at those people for making the efforts and for actually doing something constructive. or if you think there is some aspect of that site which causes people to think that they cant help or get involved, then do share - lets see how we can improve that. there is definitely a lot of scope for people to join, help and make things better - and quite a few have. - KB ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- Edson D. Amaral Pref. Mun. de São Sebastião - SP (12) 3891-2044 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 13:23 -0300, Edson - PMSS wrote: distributions such as Scientific, ClearOS and Oracle Linux. Scientific Linux, like Centos, is entirely free whilst the remaining two are de facto parasites - attempting to re-sell (for commercial profit) the freely distributed work of Red Hat Inc. -- With best regards, Paul. England, EU. 1 June 2010 Exclusively Centos Gnome. Liberated from M$ Windoze. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
Hi, On 07/09/2011 05:23 PM, Edson - PMSS wrote: I really like CentOS, but it is undeniable the delay in the release of version 6.0. yes, we all clearly take that on board - I hope the changes we are bringing in helps clear that, and prevent this sort of a situation. But there are still lots of places for improvements, and over the next few months lets try and address all of those. - KB ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
Quoting Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org: Hi, On 07/09/2011 05:23 PM, Edson - PMSS wrote: I really like CentOS, but it is undeniable the delay in the release of version 6.0. yes, we all clearly take that on board - I hope the changes we are bringing in helps clear that, please say what those changes are and prevent this sort of a situation. But there are still lots of places for improvements, and over the next few months lets try and address all of those. - KB ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. Krishnamurti ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
Always Learning wrote: On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 13:23 -0300, Edson - PMSS wrote: distributions such as Scientific, ClearOS and Oracle Linux. Scientific Linux, like Centos, is entirely free whilst the remaining two are de facto parasites - attempting to re-sell (for commercial profit) the freely distributed work of Red Hat Inc. ClearOS is open source, and an excellent product. It's target is Firewall/gateway, or All-in-one with excellent web configuration front-end and marvelous integration of Servers, database, users... Especially suited for noob's or people not wanting to spend time learning administration. What they charge are additional services like AntiVirus, backup, MX backup, On-line domain copy If you do not need them, you don't pay anything. And they used CentOS 5.x for base when they changed from ClarkConnect (with Home and paid Office and Enterprise versions) to ClearOS Foundation. If it was not for ClarkConnect (rpm based, RHEL at the core), my first Linux server/router/firewall, I might not choose CentOS and might not learn so much about iptables, etc. Ljubomir ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Always Learning cen...@u6.u22.net wrote: On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 13:23 -0300, Edson - PMSS wrote: distributions such as Scientific, ClearOS and Oracle Linux. Scientific Linux, like Centos, is entirely free whilst the remaining two are de facto parasites - attempting to re-sell (for commercial profit) the freely distributed work of Red Hat Inc. Oracle is selling for a profit but the goal of ClearOS Core is to be free just like Scientific Linux and Centos are. Even the ClearOS Enterprise is a free product. If you want additional services on top of ClearOS Enterprise it may cost you but the Core product is and will remain a free product. -Shad ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
On 07/09/2011 06:34 PM, Dave Stevens wrote: yes, we all clearly take that on board - I hope the changes we are bringing in helps clear that, please say what those changes are For one, a lot more people are involved - we have a much more streamlined process in place ( with plenty more scope for improvement ) - and there should be even more info coming through moving forward from 6.0 to 6.1, and more of an opportunity for even more - diverser - set of people to get involved. btw, artwork is one place where we could really use a hand, right now. - KB ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
On 07/09/2011 07:03 PM, Digimer wrote: btw, artwork is one place where we could really use a hand, right now. Are there any published guidelines for artwork? http://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork is a good place to start, I would also recommend grabbing the relevant .src.rpm and working through that. - KB ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
On 8 July 2011 15:22, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: On 07/07/11 10:34 PM, ramazan arslan wrote: Where can I download centos 6. where to find the current version of the iso link. please help.. afaik, it hasn't been released yet.when its released, it will be on all the usual sites, the DVD ISO will likely be torrent only initially to reduce the load on the servers According to this http://qaweb.dev.centos.org/qa the mirrors started syncing last Tuesday. How long does it normally take for everything to sync up? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
Thank you... 2011/7/8 John R. Dennison j...@gerdesas.com On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 08:34:42AM +0300, ramazan arslan wrote: Where can I download centos 6. where to find the current version of the iso link. please help.. CentOS 6 is not yet available. When it is it will be announced on the mailing lists as well as on http://www.centos.org. I recommend you check the website for updates as to the availability. John -- We have joy, we have fun, we have Linux on our Sun! -- Ralf Hildebrandt ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
Mark Bradbury wrote: On 8 July 2011 15:22, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com mailto:pie...@hogranch.com wrote: On 07/07/11 10:34 PM, ramazan arslan wrote: Where can I download centos 6. where to find the current version of the iso link. please help.. afaik, it hasn't been released yet.when its released, it will be on all the usual sites, the DVD ISO will likely be torrent only initially to reduce the load on the servers According to this http://qaweb.dev.centos.org/qa the mirrors started syncing last Tuesday. How long does it normally take for everything to sync up? It should be 2-3 days, but since C6 is larger then C4, C5, it might be 3-4 days. So I would guess that announcement is due today or tomorrow, but this is just guessing, not the statement. They will make first make sure all of the mirrors are properly synced and only then announced availability. Ljubomir ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
On 07/08/2011 09:25 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: ... It should be 2-3 days, but since C6 is larger then C4, C5, it might be 3-4 days. So I would guess that announcement is due today or tomorrow, but this is just guessing, not the statement. They will make first make sure all of the mirrors are properly synced and only then announced availability. I don't think the sync to mirrors has started yet. The mirror I run hasn't received anything yet. Mogens -- Mogens Kjaer, m...@lemo.dk http://www.lemo.dk ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
Mogens Kjaer wrote: I don't think the sync to mirrors has started yet. The mirror I run hasn't received anything yet. It is synced in the background so you do not download anything corrupted or to create the confusion. Once they sync all mirrors they will make those directories visible on all of them. Ljubomir ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: Mogens Kjaer wrote: I don't think the sync to mirrors has started yet. The mirror I run hasn't received anything yet. It is synced in the background so you do not download anything corrupted or to create the confusion. Once they sync all mirrors they will make those directories visible on all of them. Reading QA web site, fair estimate is it will take 2-3 days for us to be able to download, since there where last minute changes to some packages and sync to external mirrors should have started last night and should last for 2-3 days. Keep in mind this is only my estimate. Ljubomir ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote: Mogens Kjaer wrote: I don't think the sync to mirrors has started yet. The mirror I run hasn't received anything yet. It is synced in the background so you do not download anything corrupted or to create the confusion. Once they sync all mirrors they will make those directories visible on all of them. Reading QA web site, fair estimate is it will take 2-3 days for us to be able to download, since there where last minute changes to some packages and sync to external mirrors should have started last night and should last for 2-3 days. Keep in mind this is only my estimate. right, there is a website with status updates, and Jeff and others are doing a great job at keeping it up to date (thanks!). http://qaweb.dev.centos.org/qa/dashboard This is what people were asking for, now we have it! So please, if you want to know about C6 go visit the website, but don't post here... thank you. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
Reading QA web site, fair estimate is it will take 2-3 days for us to be able to download, since there where last minute changes to some packages and sync to external mirrors should have started last night and should last for 2-3 days. Keep in mind this is only my estimate. right, there is a website with status updates, and Jeff and others are doing a great job at keeping it up to date (thanks!). http://qaweb.dev.centos.org/qa/dashboard This is what people were asking for, now we have it! So please, if you want to know about C6 go visit the website, but don't post here... thank you. Bollocks. this IS the only place to post to, as information is sorely lacking. Really this whole release cycle has been a complete balls up. the little information we have such as http://qaweb.dev.centos.org/qa has no history, and changed every week. now the you have posted some new information at http://qaweb.dev.centos.org/qa/dashboard of which I, and I would say most others, were unaware of, which implies that the release has been delayed yet again. For goodness sake I hope that the next release will be more transparent and professional. It really does not look good for CentOS and open source in general. . ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
On 07/08/2011 10:14 AM, Mogens Kjaer wrote: I don't think the sync to mirrors has started yet. Now 6.0 is rolling in on my mirror! Rolling might not be the right word, it's going to take a while: # du -ks 6.0; sleep 100; du -ks 6.0 35744 6.0 62140 6.0 The 6.0 folder is not readable for external users until the bitflip occurs. Mogens -- Mogens Kjaer, m...@lemo.dk http://www.lemo.dk ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
Mark Bradbury wrote: Reading QA web site, fair estimate is it will take 2-3 days for us to be able to download, since there where last minute changes to some packages and sync to external mirrors should have started last night and should last for 2-3 days. Keep in mind this is only my estimate. right, there is a website with status updates, and Jeff and others are doing a great job at keeping it up to date (thanks!). http://qaweb.dev.centos.org/qa/dashboard This is what people were asking for, now we have it! So please, if you want to know about C6 go visit the website, but don't post here... thank you. Bollocks. this IS the only place to post to, as information is sorely lacking. Really this whole release cycle has been a complete balls up. the little information we have such as http://qaweb.dev.centos.org/qa has no history, and changed every week. now the you have posted some new information at http://qaweb.dev.centos.org/qa/dashboard of which I, and I would say most others, were unaware of, which implies that the release has been delayed yet again. since you replied to my post I guess you're talking to me? If so you're wrong: *I* didn't post anything on qaweb.dev.centos.org , I'm just a centos user that went looking for information on that site, clicked on a few links/tabs and found the information I was looking for. Wasn't too hard, no neuronal overheat to report. But I still posted the direct link, so you and others can follow the progress without posting here every other day. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
On Friday, July 08, 2011 10:48 PM, Mark Bradbury wrote: Reading QA web site, fair estimate is it will take 2-3 days for us to be able to download, since there where last minute changes to some packages and sync to external mirrors should have started last night and should last for 2-3 days. Keep in mind this is only my estimate. right, there is a website with status updates, and Jeff and others are doing a great job at keeping it up to date (thanks!). http://qaweb.dev.centos.org/qa/dashboard This is what people were asking for, now we have it! So please, if you want to know about C6 go visit the website, but don't post here... thank you. Bollocks. this IS the only place to post to, as information is sorely lacking. Really this whole release cycle has been a complete balls up. the little information we have such as http://qaweb.dev.centos.org/qa has no history, and changed every week. now the you have posted some new information at http://qaweb.dev.centos.org/qa/dashboard of which I, and I would say most others, were unaware of, which implies that the release has been delayed yet again. For goodness sake I hope that the next release will be more transparent and professional. It really does not look good for CentOS and open source in general. ascendos is that way ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
On 7/8/11, Mark Bradbury mark.bradb...@gmail.com wrote: Bollocks. this IS the only place to post to, as information is sorely lacking. Really this whole release cycle has been a complete balls up. the little information we have such as http://qaweb.dev.centos.org/qa has no history, and changed every week. now the you have posted some new information at http://qaweb.dev.centos.org/qa/dashboard of which I, and I would say most others, were unaware of, which implies that the release has been delayed yet again. For goodness sake I hope that the next release will be more transparent and professional. It really does not look good for CentOS and open source in general. The fact the devs did do something about the complaints, putting up the qaweb is working towards the right direction. Qaweb was mentioned on the mailing list several times already and there is a history of comments posted on it, so we can see where progress is made or issues ran into. Much better than the total blackout from before. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote: For goodness sake I hope that the next release will be more transparent and professional. It really does not look good for CentOS and open source in general. The fact the devs did do something about the complaints, putting up the qaweb is working towards the right direction. Qaweb was mentioned on the mailing list several times already and there is a history of comments posted on it, so we can see where progress is made or issues ran into. Much better than the total blackout from before. QA web site is also mentioned on CentOS's Facebook page, tweeter and numerous sites (Google gives 1570 hits on +centos +status +qaweb). As for professionalism, search in centos-devel mailing list (there are many sites that archive mailinglists) and you will find about 200-300 mails directly connected to this issue and about 20-30 that explain why there is so much delay. Ljubomir ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
On Fri, 8 Jul 2011, Mogens Kjaer wrote: The 6.0 folder is not readable for external users until the bitflip occurs. The implicit statement being that a mirror operator could _jump the gun_ on the official release, and 'have 'the release early. Indeed, in the past some (former) mirror operators released 'early samples' and posted such URLs ... and one of the CD vendors released a non-officially released ISO, that they (assumedly) then had to recall and replace This turned out to be ill-considered, because the release process is not official until announced, and in one of the past releases, we needed to replace a few files 'at the last minute' -- Russ herrold ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: On 7/8/11, Mark Bradbury mark.bradb...@gmail.com wrote: Bollocks. this IS the only place to post to, as information is sorely lacking. Really this whole release cycle has been a complete balls up. For goodness sake I hope that the next release will be more transparent and professional. It really does not look good for CentOS and open source in general. The fact the devs did do something about the complaints, Much better than the total blackout from before. Something is better than nothing, for sufficiently large values of something. Insert spiffy .sig here: Life is complex: it has both real and imaginary parts. Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away. //me *** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.Hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated** ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
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On 7/9/11, Brunner, Brian T. bbrun...@gai-tronics.com wrote: Something is better than nothing, for sufficiently large values of something. No matter how small the values of something, relatively it is always infinitely better than nothing ;) ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
On 07/08/2011 01:48 AM, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote: right, there is a website with status updates, and Jeff and others are doing a great job at keeping it up to date (thanks!). http://qaweb.dev.centos.org/qa/dashboard This site is excellent. Now, if I could only adjust the time zone displayed to match my own, so as to make more sense of the timestamps on the various posts in there, that would be perfect. :) -- Florin Andrei http://florin.myip.org/ ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
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On 7/9/11, Florin Andrei flo...@andrei.myip.org wrote: This site is excellent. Now, if I could only adjust the time zone displayed to match my own, so as to make more sense of the timestamps on the various posts in there, that would be perfect. :) I think it seems to be on some European time. Based on the 3:38pm 8th July post, it doesn't seem likely to be NA since it's not yet 3pm in most NA places. Given the server's organisation is listed as Belgium maybe that's the time zone :D Any devs care to enlighten us? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
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Florin Andrei wrote: On 07/08/2011 01:48 AM, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote: right, there is a website with status updates, and Jeff and others are doing a great job at keeping it up to date (thanks!). http://qaweb.dev.centos.org/qa/dashboard This site is excellent. Now, if I could only adjust the time zone displayed to match my own, so as to make more sense of the timestamps on the various posts in there, that would be perfect. :) +1 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
How is the site excellent if it changes nearly every other day, displays zero useful information on the development cycle, and discourages people to register and be a part of the community or development process (Now before anyone says its not a development cycle and its only repackaging you're full of crap. You're linkedin says you're developing, so that will no longer fly). It's the most closed source project for open source software I've ever seen. It's a lack of responsibility, if you don't want to make a commitment, move over; don't keep playing it up like you're doing something positive. Thankfully some good things have come of this complete disaster that is CentOS 6. * Scientific Linux 6 * Oracle Enterprise 6 (Which is free to download folks) * Clear-OS Core (Which is ran by a professional organization instead of a group if you're into that) On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Florin Andrei flo...@andrei.myip.orgwrote: On 07/08/2011 01:48 AM, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote: right, there is a website with status updates, and Jeff and others are doing a great job at keeping it up to date (thanks!). http://qaweb.dev.centos.org/qa/dashboard This site is excellent. Now, if I could only adjust the time zone displayed to match my own, so as to make more sense of the timestamps on the various posts in there, that would be perfect. :) -- Florin Andrei http://florin.myip.org/ ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- Steven Crothers steven.croth...@gmail.com ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 04:59:37PM -0400, Steven Crothers wrote: How is the site excellent if it changes nearly every other day, displays Um... Perhaps it's just me... But the QA calendar says QA dates are tentative dates for internal planning only. These dates are not official release dates, but only a guide for the QA team. All target dates are subject to change. That indicates, to me at least, that changes should be expected. I would be more concerned if changes did not occur. zero useful information on the development cycle, and discourages people to register and be a part of the community or development process (Now before anyone says its not a development cycle and its only repackaging you're full of crap. You're linkedin says you're developing, so that will no longer fly). Linkedin has nothing to do with this and you're just grasping at straws. It's been quite clear that you've no actual understanding of what goes into a respin; in fact, since you've nothing but dirt to sling how about this? I publicly challenge you to put out your own respin. You apparently think that it's easy, so put your money where your mouth is and do it. It's the most closed source project for open source software I've ever seen. And yet... You're still here blathering and crying. It's a lack of responsibility, if you don't want to make a commitment, move over; don't keep playing it up like you're doing something positive. And where, might I ask, is your contribution? Or do you just like to cry? Should I send you a cartoon of Kleenex? * Scientific Linux 6 How does SL6 have anything at all to do with coming out of CentOS? It's a separate and distinct project with dissimilar goals. * Oracle Enterprise 6 (Which is free to download folks) With no updates unless you pay. Yes, that's quite useful for the enterprise. John -- Spring is nature's way of saying, Let's party! -- Robin Williams (1952-), American actor and comedian pgpzSrRZcqhYI.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
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On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Steven Crothers steven.croth...@gmail.com wrote: Thankfully some good things have come of this complete disaster that is CentOS 6. * Scientific Linux 6 * Oracle Enterprise 6 (Which is free to download folks) * Clear-OS Core (Which is ran by a professional organization instead of a group if you're into that) Uh... Scientific Linux didn't come from CentOS. It's been in existence since 2004. Oracle Linux? Go for it, if supporting a parasitical, ungrateful corporation is your thing and if you like to pay for updates to them (I would just use Red Hat, if it were me). Clear-OS Core? Strange, I don't see its 6.0 version available for download yet. They've got an alpha out there, but it remains to be seen how will they'll rebuild Red Hat and how long their rebuilding project will last. I'm guessing they'll find it's a lot of work, go back to using CentOS and put their time back into their main product line. But we'll see. -- RonB -- Using CentOS 5.6 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
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PLEASE STOP. WE DO NOT NEED THIS AGAIN, ESPECIALLY SO CLOSE TO RELEASE. -☙ Brian Mathis ❧- On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Ron Blizzard rb4cen...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Steven Crothers steven.croth...@gmail.com wrote: Thankfully some good things have come of this complete disaster that is CentOS 6. * Scientific Linux 6 * Oracle Enterprise 6 (Which is free to download folks) * Clear-OS Core (Which is ran by a professional organization instead of a group if you're into that) Uh... Scientific Linux didn't come from CentOS. It's been in existence since 2004. Oracle Linux? Go for it, if supporting a parasitical, ungrateful corporation is your thing and if you like to pay for updates to them (I would just use Red Hat, if it were me). Clear-OS Core? Strange, I don't see its 6.0 version available for download yet. They've got an alpha out there, but it remains to be seen how will they'll rebuild Red Hat and how long their rebuilding project will last. I'm guessing they'll find it's a lot of work, go back to using CentOS and put their time back into their main product line. But we'll see. -- RonB -- Using CentOS 5.6 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
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On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Brian Mathis brian.mathis+cen...@betteradmin.com wrote: PLEASE STOP. WE DO NOT NEED THIS AGAIN, ESPECIALLY SO CLOSE TO RELEASE. Except it won't end with the release of 6.0. The same people will immediately go into whining about the release of 6.1. It's FUD -- for what purpose, I don't know. -- RonB -- Using CentOS 5.6 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
On Fri, 8 Jul 2011, Brian Mathis wrote: PLEASE STOP. WE DO NOT NEED THIS AGAIN, ESPECIALLY SO CLOSE TO RELEASE. +1 FWIW, traffic on the mirror list says C6 is being rsync'd to the external mirrors as I type this. Regards, -- Tom Diehl tdi...@rogueind.com Spamtrap address mtd...@rogueind.com -☙ Brian Mathis ❧- On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Ron Blizzard rb4cen...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Steven Crothers steven.croth...@gmail.com wrote: Thankfully some good things have come of this complete disaster that is CentOS 6. * Scientific Linux 6 * Oracle Enterprise 6 (Which is free to download folks) * Clear-OS Core (Which is ran by a professional organization instead of a group if you're into that) Uh... Scientific Linux didn't come from CentOS. It's been in existence since 2004. Oracle Linux? Go for it, if supporting a parasitical, ungrateful corporation is your thing and if you like to pay for updates to them (I would just use Red Hat, if it were me). Clear-OS Core? Strange, I don't see its 6.0 version available for download yet. They've got an alpha out there, but it remains to be seen how will they'll rebuild Red Hat and how long their rebuilding project will last. I'm guessing they'll find it's a lot of work, go back to using CentOS and put their time back into their main product line. But we'll see. -- RonB -- Using CentOS 5.6 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 04:59:37PM -0400, Steven Crothers wrote: Thankfully some good things have come of this complete disaster that is CentOS 6. * Scientific Linux 6 * Oracle Enterprise 6 (Which is free to download folks) Yuppers, but not free to update. (I was confused by the site, as they talked about their open yum repo or whatever they called it, but it turned out to be nothing more than what is on the original download, just allowing you to use yum to install it.) Just mentioning this to hopefully help others avoid the samem misunderstanding. -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6 Cordelia: Hi! You having fun? Angel: Sure. This is, uh... Cordelia: Your idea of hell. Angel: Actually, in hell you tend to know a lot of the people ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
On 07/08/2011 01:59 PM, Steven Crothers wrote: How is the site excellent if it changes nearly every other day, displays zero useful information on the development cycle, and discourages people Take a break, breathe deeply. -- Florin Andrei http://florin.myip.org/ ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
Quoting Steven Crothers steven.croth...@gmail.com: How is the site excellent if it changes nearly every other day, displays zero useful information on the development cycle, and discourages people to register and be a part of the community or development process (Now before anyone says its not a development cycle and its only repackaging you're full of crap. You're linkedin says you're developing, so that will no longer fly). It's the most closed source project for open source software I've ever seen. probably no one here wants to take on your personal experiences, no matter how vivid they may be to you... It's a lack of responsibility, if you don't want to make a commitment, move over; don't keep playing it up like you're doing something positive. Thankfully some good things have come of this complete disaster that is CentOS 6. Not a complete disaster. CentOS is a viable free/libre OS that serves nicely as an alternative to a paid version and is a handy incubator for Red Hat regardless of that not being a project goal. I have made some criticisms of the release and development model on this list but I also made a suggestion of how to address it and am willing to work toward resolving some problems I see. All points absent from your mail. What in particular do you suggest? Dave * Scientific Linux 6 * Oracle Enterprise 6 (Which is free to download folks) * Clear-OS Core (Which is ran by a professional organization instead of a group if you're into that) On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 2:52 PM, Florin Andrei flo...@andrei.myip.orgwrote: On 07/08/2011 01:48 AM, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg wrote: right, there is a website with status updates, and Jeff and others are doing a great job at keeping it up to date (thanks!). http://qaweb.dev.centos.org/qa/dashboard This site is excellent. Now, if I could only adjust the time zone displayed to match my own, so as to make more sense of the timestamps on the various posts in there, that would be perfect. :) -- Florin Andrei http://florin.myip.org/ ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos -- Steven Crothers steven.croth...@gmail.com -- It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society. Krishnamurti ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
[CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
Where can I download centos 6. where to find the current version of the iso link. please help.. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 08:34:42AM +0300, ramazan arslan wrote: Where can I download centos 6. where to find the current version of the iso link. please help.. CentOS 6 is not yet available. When it is it will be announced on the mailing lists as well as on http://www.centos.org. I recommend you check the website for updates as to the availability. John -- We have joy, we have fun, we have Linux on our Sun! -- Ralf Hildebrandt pgpfuIhCOmz1R.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Re: [CentOS] Where can I download centos 6
On 07/07/11 10:34 PM, ramazan arslan wrote: Where can I download centos 6. where to find the current version of the iso link. please help.. afaik, it hasn't been released yet.when its released, it will be on all the usual sites, the DVD ISO will likely be torrent only initially to reduce the load on the servers -- john r pierceN 37, W 122 santa cruz ca mid-left coast ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
