Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-11 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Sorin Srbu Sent: den 11 maj 2015 07:49 To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution Main Config: Schedule: FullPeriod: 27.9

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-11 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of John R Pierce Sent: den 11 maj 2015 08:19 To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution On 5/10/2015 11:03 PM, Sorin Srbu wrote: How did you get away

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-11 Thread John R Pierce
On 5/10/2015 11:57 PM, Sorin Srbu wrote: expletive. Why can't everybody follow the standards and use a comma when writing decimals. our standard is a . comma is a 1000s seperator. thats the best part about standards, there are so many to choose from!! -- john r pierce, recycling bits in

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-11 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of John R Pierce Sent: den 11 maj 2015 09:25 To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution On 5/10/2015 11:57 PM, Sorin Srbu wrote: expletive. Why can't

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-11 Thread John R Pierce
On 5/10/2015 11:03 PM, Sorin Srbu wrote: How did you get away with using 27,9 on Fullperiod?8-) I'm seeing Error: No save due to errors and Error: FullPeriod must be a real-valued number, unless I change the value to e.g. 27. This is on BPC v3.2.1. 27.9 not 27,9 (point, not comma). --

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-11 Thread Nikolaos Milas
On 7/5/2015 5:01 μμ, Robert Nichols wrote: I use rdiff-backup, but I hesitate to recommend a tool that has been unsupported for over 6 years and does have quite a few bugs. I have had good experience with mondrescue (mondoarchive, mondorestore) for years. It's a free, active project. See:

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-10 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of John R Pierce Sent: den 8 maj 2015 17:12 To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution On 5/7/2015 11:44 PM, Sorin Srbu wrote: May I ask what your

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-08 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of John R Pierce Sent: den 7 maj 2015 19:09 To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution my year of monthlies and month of dailies of 25 servers has been more

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-08 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Timothy Murphy Sent: den 7 maj 2015 23:21 To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution The worst thing about BackupPC is the insane error message Unable

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-08 Thread John R Pierce
On 5/7/2015 11:44 PM, Sorin Srbu wrote: May I ask what your settings are to achieve that retention rate? there's a lot of settings... but these are probably applicable... Main Config: Schedule: FullPeriod: 27.9 FullKeepCnt: 24 FullKeepCntMin: 8 FullAgeMax: 360

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-08 Thread Warren Young
On May 8, 2015, at 10:24 AM, James B. Byrne byrn...@harte-lyne.ca wrote: If a project is backed/picked up by a corporation, say Redhat or Oracle, or a foundation, say Apache or LibreOffice, then it may have a future more or less independent of any single individual or group. Commercial

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-08 Thread James B. Byrne
On Fri, May 8, 2015 07:59, Timothy Murphy wrote: Sorin Srbu wrote: Yeah, well, but it's free. I'm not sure you can complain too much in that case. 8-) I find this comment, often made, completely unacceptable. The implication is that inferior code is OK if the developer is not being paid.

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-08 Thread John R Pierce
On 5/8/2015 10:40 AM, Warren Young wrote: - Adobe’s killed off dozens of products over the years. FrameMaker ... Frame isn't dead, my wife is a technical writer in the EDA (electronic design automation) business, and thats about all they use. -- john r pierce, recycling bits in santa

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-08 Thread Warren Young
On May 8, 2015, at 12:02 PM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: On 5/8/2015 10:40 AM, Warren Young wrote: - Adobe’s killed off dozens of products over the years. FrameMaker ... Frame isn't dead When I think of FrameMaker, I think of the program that started out on Solaris, then

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-08 Thread Mihai T. Lazarescu
On Fri, May 08, 2015 at 01:59:12PM +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote: Sorin Srbu wrote: The worst thing about BackupPC is the insane error message Unable to read 4 bytes, which comes up if anything is wrong. Possibly the worst error message anywhere? thats an rsync protocol message,

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-08 Thread Timothy Murphy
Sorin Srbu wrote: The worst thing about BackupPC is the insane error message Unable to read 4 bytes, which comes up if anything is wrong. Possibly the worst error message anywhere? thats an rsync protocol message, and yeah, debugging connection/authentication issues is a bit ugly.

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-08 Thread Steve Lindemann
On 5/8/2015 12:47 PM, Warren Young wrote: On May 8, 2015, at 12:02 PM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: On 5/8/2015 10:40 AM, Warren Young wrote: - Adobe’s killed off dozens of products over the years. FrameMaker ... Frame isn't dead When I think of FrameMaker, I think of the

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-07 Thread Leon Fauster
Am 07.05.2015 um 08:35 schrieb Michael Schumacher michael.schumac...@pamas.de: Everybody has its favorite backup program, but why rely on only one system? I have to backup 8 servers and use three backup systems in parallel. -- BackupPC. Easy to use, nice user interface with graphical

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-07 Thread Alessandro Baggi
Il 07/05/2015 11:24, Marcin Trendota ha scritto: W dniu 06.05.2015 o 21:21, Alessandro Baggi pisze: What do you mean about Backup PC? Any experiences? What solution do you use? BackupPC is good, howewer it's a pity you can't search for a file in GUI. But it works well, i'm backing up 32

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-07 Thread Jussi Hirvi
I wonder why nobody has yet mentioned rdiff-backup. It combines browsable directories with multiple versions - the version data is stored in a separate rdiff-backup-data subdirectory (one per backup task). One downside is that rdiff-backup causes a lot of network traffic. For that reason I

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-07 Thread Alessandro Baggi
Il 07/05/2015 00:47, John R Pierce ha scritto: On 5/6/2015 1:34 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: My assistant liked backuppc. It is OK and will do decent job for really small number of machines (thinking 3-4 IMHO). I run bacula which has close to a hundred of clients; all is stored in files on RAID

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-07 Thread Michael Schumacher
Hello Alessandro, Wednesday, May 6, 2015, 9:21:10 PM, you wrote: I'm new with backup ops and I'm searching a good system to accomplish this work. Everybody has its favorite backup program, but why rely on only one system? I have to backup 8 servers and use three backup systems in parallel.

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-07 Thread Marcin Trendota
W dniu 06.05.2015 o 21:21, Alessandro Baggi pisze: What do you mean about Backup PC? Any experiences? What solution do you use? BackupPC is good, howewer it's a pity you can't search for a file in GUI. But it works well, i'm backing up 32 hosts (servers, desktops). Can somebody tell me why

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-07 Thread Marcin Trendota
W dniu 07.05.2015 o 11:46, Alessandro Baggi pisze: I don't know why and don't know if in previous CentOS releases was included. It is in EPEL. BackupPC is available for C7 from nux repo, but this is an external repo. Good enough, thanks for info. -- Over And Out MoonWolf

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-07 Thread John R Pierce
On 5/7/2015 2:21 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: John R Pierce wrote: On 5/7/2015 4:56 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: The worst thing about BackupPC is the insane error message Unable to read 4 bytes, which comes up if anything is wrong. Possibly the worst error message anywhere? thats an rsync

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-07 Thread Mauricio Tavares
On May 7, 2015 6:05 AM, Jussi Hirvi greens...@greenspot.fi wrote: I wonder why nobody has yet mentioned rdiff-backup. It combines browsable directories with multiple versions - the version data is stored in a separate rdiff-backup-data subdirectory (one per backup task). One downside is that

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-07 Thread Robert Nichols
On 05/07/2015 05:04 AM, Jussi Hirvi wrote: I wonder why nobody has yet mentioned rdiff-backup. It combines browsable directories with multiple versions - the version data is stored in a separate rdiff-backup-data subdirectory (one per backup task). I use rdiff-backup, but I hesitate to

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-07 Thread Timothy Murphy
John R Pierce wrote: On 5/7/2015 4:56 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: The worst thing about BackupPC is the insane error message Unable to read 4 bytes, which comes up if anything is wrong. Possibly the worst error message anywhere? thats an rsync protocol message, and yeah, debugging

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-07 Thread Jussi Hirvi
On 7.5.2015 14.24, Mauricio Tavares wrote: I admit one think it does miss is having a convenient way to look for a file, specially if you physically rotate drives. If rdiff-backup will tell when was the last time a file has been backed up/touched even if drive with said file is not mounted, I

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-07 Thread Devin Reade
--On Thursday, May 07, 2015 06:41:03 PM +0300 Jussi Hirvi greens...@greenspot.fi wrote: But why rotate drives? Big drives are not very expensive nowadays. 1. Redundant copies. 2. Sometimes your filesystems are larger than the largest drives. For example, I'm currently seting up backups

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-07 Thread Keith Keller
On 2015-05-06, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: This sounds like Apple borrowed your idea for their time machine (I bet you are doing it for much-much linger than Apple time machine exists)! rsnapshot has been using rsync with hard links for ages. http://rsnapshot.org/ --keith

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-07 Thread Alessandro Baggi
Il 07/05/2015 11:55, Marcin Trendota ha scritto: W dniu 07.05.2015 o 11:46, Alessandro Baggi pisze: I don't know why and don't know if in previous CentOS releases was included. It is in EPEL. BackupPC is available for C7 from nux repo, but this is an external repo. Good enough, thanks

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-07 Thread John R Pierce
On 5/7/2015 4:56 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: The worst thing about BackupPC is the insane error message Unable to read 4 bytes, which comes up if anything is wrong. Possibly the worst error message anywhere? thats an rsync protocol message, and yeah, debugging connection/authentication issues

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-07 Thread John R Pierce
On 5/6/2015 11:23 PM, Alessandro Baggi wrote: when disk is filled, on bacula we can recycle disk volumes. What's for BackupPC? There is automatic backup deletion over retention time? my year of monthlies and month of dailies of 25 servers has been more or less constant size for a year or two

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-07 Thread Timothy Murphy
Geenhuizen wrote: I’ve been using BackupPC for several years for my 10 hosts, and works extremely well, however it can take a lot of disk space, so I’d recommend a dedicated drive for the backups. I've been running BackupPC on two home servers (in different places) running CentOS for many

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-06 Thread John R Pierce
On 5/6/2015 1:34 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: My assistant liked backuppc. It is OK and will do decent job for really small number of machines (thinking 3-4 IMHO). I run bacula which has close to a hundred of clients; all is stored in files on RAID units, no tapes. Once you configure it it is nice.

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-06 Thread Hakan Koseoglu
On 6 May 2015 at 22:49, J Martin Rushton martinrushto...@btinternet.com wrote: Don't dismiss Amanda it works well in a disk based setup. I don't bother with the spooling disk though. I back up to virtual tape slots on an external disk and rotate three external disks; two are in the firesafe

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-06 Thread m . roth
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Alessandro Baggi wrote: I list, I'm new with backup ops and I'm searching a good system to accomplish this work. I know that on centos there are bacula and amanda but they are too tape oriented. Another is that they are very powerfull but more complex. I need a

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-06 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Wed, May 6, 2015 3:27 pm, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Alessandro Baggi wrote: I list, I'm new with backup ops and I'm searching a good system to accomplish this work. I know that on centos there are bacula and amanda but they are too tape oriented. Another is that

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-06 Thread J Martin Rushton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Don't dismiss Amanda it works well in a disk based setup. I don't bother with the spooling disk though. I back up to virtual tape slots on an external disk and rotate three external disks; two are in the firesafe at work, one is on top of my PC. On

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-06 Thread Geenhuizen
On May 6, 2015, at 9:46 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Alessandro Baggi wrote: I list, I'm new with backup ops and I'm searching a good system to accomplish this work. I know that on centos there are bacula and amanda but they are too tape oriented. Another is that they are very powerfull

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-06 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Wed, May 6, 2015 2:46 pm, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Alessandro Baggi wrote: I list, I'm new with backup ops and I'm searching a good system to accomplish this work. I know that on centos there are bacula and amanda but they are too tape oriented. Another is that they are very powerfull

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-06 Thread m . roth
Alessandro Baggi wrote: I list, I'm new with backup ops and I'm searching a good system to accomplish this work. I know that on centos there are bacula and amanda but they are too tape oriented. Another is that they are very powerfull but more complex. I need a solution for small office for

Re: [CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-06 Thread m . roth
Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Wed, May 6, 2015 3:27 pm, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Alessandro Baggi wrote: I list, I'm new with backup ops and I'm searching a good system to accomplish this work. I know that on centos there are bacula and amanda but they are too tape

[CentOS] Backup PC or other solution

2015-05-06 Thread Alessandro Baggi
I list, I'm new with backup ops and I'm searching a good system to accomplish this work. I know that on centos there are bacula and amanda but they are too tape oriented. Another is that they are very powerfull but more complex. I need a solution for small office for disk storage and I found