On Mon, 16 May 2011, Johnny Hughes wrote:
It will be released when it is released, if you don't like it then leave.
Before I leave this list let me take you back about 7 years to the
Whitebox mailinglist. You may not remember that Whitebox had a list of
issues of its own, no timely updates,
On Thu, 2011-05-19 at 13:54 +0200, Dag Wieers wrote:
On Mon, 16 May 2011, Johnny Hughes wrote:
It will be released when it is released, if you don't like it then leave.
Before I leave this list let me take you back about 7 years to the
Whitebox mailinglist. You may not remember that
On Thu, 2011-05-19 at 13:54 +0200, Dag Wieers wrote:
On Mon, 16 May 2011, Johnny Hughes wrote:
It will be released when it is released, if you don't like it then leave.
Before I leave this list let me take you back about 7 years to the
Whitebox mailinglist. You may not remember that
Dag wrote:
Before I leave this list let me take you back about 7 years
to the Whitebox mailinglist. You may not remember that
Whitebox had a list of issues of its own, no timely updates,
no community effort, lack of good communication. It was
mostly a one-man-effort.
bummer to see you
Tom H wrote:
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic off...@plnet.rs wrote:
Gordon Messmer wrote:
On 05/15/2011 06:10 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
Where is Ubuntu telling people exactly where they stand on producing a
their new releases.
What about Red Hat ... how about Fedora.
I
On 5/18/11 5:05 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
Tom, you are way off the point I was making. RHEL, Fedora, Debian,
Ubuntu, all other distro's are *developed* and can change at any time.
You can track changes, contribute patches and track progress (if you
have access). Anything you build at any
There's also a reasonable question about whether this process could
be better automated,
How do you *automate* a system where the fundamental rules change
'without notice to users'?
in which case it becomes typical software development for programs
that solve the dependencies and find and
On Wednesday, May 18, 2011 09:23:14 AM Brunner, Brian T. wrote:
Rebuilding somebody else's sources without their build environment isn't
typical. It's MindReading 101.
It's worse than that in the specific case of EL6. It's replicating the result
without replicating the build system. It's a
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote:
On 5/18/11 5:05 AM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
Tom, you are way off the point I was making. RHEL, Fedora, Debian,
Ubuntu, all other distro's are *developed* and can change at any time.
That's why I said he should've
On 5/18/2011 8:23 AM, Brunner, Brian T. wrote:
There's also a reasonable question about whether this process could
be better automated,
How do you *automate* a system where the fundamental rules change
'without notice to users'?
You have the results you want to reproduce. You have a list
On 05/18/2011 08:01 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:
It was discussed, but that doesn't change anyone's mindset about open vs.
closed
processes or whether being more open and permitting community insight and
participation would ultimately keep the project from going the way of
Whitebox.
Hello
On 5/19/11, Johnny Hughes joh...@centos.org wrote:
Can we do a better job at some things, sure. But trust me, CentOS is
going nowhere.
I think you might mean CentOS is not going away since going
nowhere fast or slow is bad news for those waiting for the next
version ;)
Maybe all the non-technical discussions could go into a CentOS
Politics/Philosophy new list...?
JD
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On 05/16/2011 02:44 PM, ne...@grayhatlabs.com wrote:
I never thought sliced bread was all that great.
Wouldn't it be better for people to donate money to help push things along
faster?
I mean if your really upset about how long its taken to come out why don't
you donate some money to help the
on 5/16/2011 3:08 PM R P Herrold spake the following:
snip
[I see 14 new posts within the past hour that composing this
piece has taken ... If I had known the comment by 'Radu
Gheorghiu' was coming, about 'waiting for somebody to come and
fill their pockets', I would have spent it
on 5/16/2011 2:45 PM cen...@911networks.com spake the
following:
On Mon, 16 May 2011 13:47:30 -0500
Johnny Hughes joh...@centos.org wrote:
Can't you ungrateful bastards take the free software I make by
following the licensing requirements and be happy with that?
Johnny please don't take
Scott Silva wrote:
on 5/16/2011 3:08 PM R P Herrold spake the following:
snip
[I see 14 new posts within the past hour that composing this
piece has taken ... If I had known the comment by 'Radu
Gheorghiu' was coming, about 'waiting for somebody to come and
fill their pockets', I would have
Johnny Hughes wrote:
On 05/17/2011 09:46 AM, Scott Silva wrote:
on 5/16/2011 3:08 PM R P Herrold spake the following:
snip
[I see 14 new posts within the past hour that composing this
piece has taken ... If I had known the comment by 'Radu
Gheorghiu' was coming, about 'waiting for somebody
on 5/17/2011 9:36 AM m.r...@5-cent.us spake the
following:
Johnny Hughes wrote:
On 05/17/2011 09:46 AM, Scott Silva wrote:
on 5/16/2011 3:08 PM R P Herrold spake the following:
snip
[I see 14 new posts within the past hour that composing this
piece has taken ... If I had known the comment by
On Wednesday, May 18, 2011 02:58 AM, Scott Silva wrote:
on 5/17/2011 9:36 AM m.r...@5-cent.us spake the
following:
Johnny Hughes wrote:
On 05/17/2011 09:46 AM, Scott Silva wrote:
on 5/16/2011 3:08 PM R P Herrold spake the following:
snip
[I see 14 new posts within the past hour that
Am 17.05.11 13:37, schrieb Benjamin Franz:
On 05/16/2011 02:44 PM, ne...@grayhatlabs.com wrote:
I never thought sliced bread was all that great.
Wouldn't it be better for people to donate money to help push things along
faster?
I mean if your really upset about how long its taken to come
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic off...@plnet.rs wrote:
Gordon Messmer wrote:
On 05/15/2011 06:10 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
Where is Ubuntu telling people exactly where they stand on producing a
their new releases.
What about Red Hat ... how about Fedora.
I don't know
On Thu, 12 May 2011, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On 05/12/2011 10:09 AM, Craig White wrote:
On May 12, 2011, at 2:05 AM, Ron Blizzard wrote:
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 1:08 AM, Mark Bradbury mark.bradb...@gmail.com
wrote:
Do you expect the C6.0 - C6.1 differences to be more complex, or less
complex
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 2:44 AM, Dag Wieers d...@wieers.com wrote:
On Thu, 12 May 2011, Johnny Hughes wrote:
The ZERO release is always going to take longer than the others.
Past numbers debunks this myth:
CentOS 4.0 took 23 days
CentOS 5.0 took 28 days
CentOS 6.0 is not
On 05/16/2011 02:44 AM, Dag Wieers wrote:
On Thu, 12 May 2011, Johnny Hughes wrote:
On 05/12/2011 10:09 AM, Craig White wrote:
On May 12, 2011, at 2:05 AM, Ron Blizzard wrote:
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 1:08 AM, Mark Bradbury mark.bradb...@gmail.com
wrote:
Do you expect the C6.0 - C6.1
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:32:15AM +0200, Dag Wieers wrote:
On Mon, 16 May 2011, Ron Blizzard wrote:
Why constantly cast CentOS in the darkest possible light?
I don't think that's what I am doing. I commended Johnny for his
very quick CentOS 4.9 release, but I honestly can not praise a
On 05/16/2011 04:32 AM, Dag Wieers wrote:
On Mon, 16 May 2011, Ron Blizzard wrote:
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 2:44 AM, Dag Wieers d...@wieers.com wrote:
On Thu, 12 May 2011, Johnny Hughes wrote:
The ZERO release is always going to take longer than the others.
Past numbers debunks this myth:
On 05/15/2011 05:12 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
The process around building CentOS has traditionally been very
secretive, which makes the name *Community* Enterprise OS seem very inapt.
The community in CentOS that you write about was NEVER about building
CentOS.
We have never said that anyone
Can you take this off-list? I am REALLY tired of reading
non-CentOS stuff.
Please keep it here. CentOS vs SL and CentOS vs Ubuntu are as on-topic
as anything else.
Since TUV stopped supporting my non-PAE processors, I am obliged to find
a new home.
Ubuntu is one of the options.
Insert spiffy
On Monday, May 16, 2011 09:11 PM, Brunner, Brian T. wrote:
Can you take this off-list? I am REALLY tired of reading
non-CentOS stuff.
Please keep it here. CentOS vs SL and CentOS vs Ubuntu are as on-topic
as anything else.
Since TUV stopped supporting my non-PAE processors, I am obliged to
On 5/16/2011 5:05 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
We have never said that anyone but the project would build it.
But you also didn't say that the project would lack the resources to do
it in a timely manner or handle concurrent updates. In fact, I thought
the project used to post goals for
On May 15, 2011, at 3:52 AM, Ron Blizzard wrote:
You're leaving out release 4.9. You're also leaving out the fact that
two major holidays occurred during the time *frame* that these three
releases needed to be built. You're also leaving out the fact (as
mentioned by one of the developers)
On 5/16/2011 11:11 AM, Craig White wrote:
but you're leaving out a very important distinction - SL released all the
updates so the lack of a 5.6 release by SL is merely the installer disc's
which is significant only to people who are looking to install SL on hardware
that is newly
On 05/16/2011 10:41 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:
On 5/16/2011 5:05 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
We have never said that anyone but the project would build it.
But you also didn't say that the project would lack the resources to do
it in a timely manner or handle concurrent updates. In fact, I
On 5/16/2011 12:27 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
The point is that we do not have a system built that can track that sort
of stuff ... and we can either build packages or design systems to track
stuff.
You don't really have to design a system for build automation/tracking
since there are several
On 05/16/11 11:24 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:
it is somewhat unsettling to think that the
project itself considers that to be a problem.
consider what might happen if a core build server for a project as
widely used as centos gets penetrated and carefully targetted to slip
trojans unnoticed into
On 05/16/2011 01:24 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
On 5/16/2011 12:27 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
The point is that we do not have a system built that can track that sort
of stuff ... and we can either build packages or design systems to track
stuff.
You don't really have to design a system for
on 5/16/2011 11:47 AM Johnny Hughes spake the following:
Can't you ungrateful bastards take the free software I make by following
the licensing requirements and be happy with that?
I hear ya Johnny... The only hurry I am in over 6 getting out is that FINALLY
some of the whining will stop... For
On 5/16/2011 1:47 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
Agreed on the security comment, hence the concern about timely updates.
It is pretty much a given that any public site will be hit with all
known exploit attempts, but it is somewhat unsettling to think that the
project itself considers that to
On 5/16/2011 1:43 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
On 05/16/11 11:24 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:
it is somewhat unsettling to think that the
project itself considers that to be a problem.
consider what might happen if a core build server for a project as
widely used as centos gets penetrated and
On 05/16/11 12:38 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
I believe that by making
the process and its problems public, someone will help solve those
problems as they do in many, many other projects where the work is open.
a very wise man[1] once said adding more bodies to a late project just
makes it later.
On 05/16/2011 02:46 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
On 5/16/2011 1:43 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
On 05/16/11 11:24 AM, Les Mikesell wrote:
it is somewhat unsettling to think that the
project itself considers that to be a problem.
consider what might happen if a core build server for a project as
On 5/16/2011 2:52 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
On 05/16/11 12:38 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
I believe that by making
the process and its problems public, someone will help solve those
problems as they do in many, many other projects where the work is open.
a very wise man[1] once said adding more
Johnny Hughes wrote:
There is not a server in the world that I could not break into if I was
on the same subnet ... and I am not even that smart.
maybe but you have the distinct advantage of having your private trojans
in every centos system out there ;-)
JNixus Nyman
Founder of Newman IT Solutions Ltd
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To: centos@centos.org
Subject: CentOS Digest, Vol 76, Issue 16
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 12:00:02 -0400
Re: [CentOS] EL 6 rollout strategies? (Scientific Linux
On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 19:40 +0100, Janne TH. Nyman wrote:
Who cares? I find it amazing that these guys still keep on building and
providing considering how their users treat them.
Team CentOS, keep your heads up. For me, you are still the best thing
that happened since sliced bread.
Come
On 05/16/11 1:18 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
Yes, but whatever can't be automated here should benefit from doing the
trial-and-error in parallel. And the potential improvements might come
in the automation process as much as the grunge work - you can't really
predict how an open project will
On 5/16/2011 3:38 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
On 05/16/11 1:18 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
Yes, but whatever can't be automated here should benefit from doing the
trial-and-error in parallel. And the potential improvements might come
in the automation process as much as the grunge work - you can't
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, but whatever can't be automated here should benefit from doing the
trial-and-error in parallel. And the potential improvements might come
in the automation process as much as the grunge work - you can't really
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 1:40 PM, Janne TH. Nyman jny...@jbtec.org wrote:
Who cares? I find it amazing that these guys still keep on building and
providing considering how their users treat them.
Team CentOS, keep your heads up. For me, you are still the best thing
that happened since sliced
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Janne TH. Nyman jny...@jbtec.org wrote:
Who cares? I find it amazing that these guys still keep on building and
providing considering how their users treat them.
Team CentOS, keep your heads up. For me, you are still the best thing
that happened since sliced
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote:
No, but I'm not the only member of the public. And your suggestion of
starting by reproducing someone else's work from scratch instead of
building on it would be like Linus telling everyone to just write their
own
On 05/16/2011 11:50 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
On 5/16/2011 3:38 PM, John R Pierce wrote:
On 05/16/11 1:18 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
Yes, but whatever can't be automated here should benefit from doing the
trial-and-error in parallel. And the potential improvements might come
in the automation
On 05/16/11 1:51 PM, Ron Blizzard wrote:
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Les Mikeselllesmikes...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, but whatever can't be automated here should benefit from doing the
trial-and-error in parallel. And the potential improvements might come
in the automation process as
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 03:51:22PM -0500, Ron Blizzard wrote:
You know Les, you're talking in hypotheticals. Johnny and the other
CentOS developers are actually *doing* the work. Everything is easy
when you're not actually doing it. If you know so much about *how* it
should be done, why
On May 16, 2011, at 11:47 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
Now, not only do I need to bust my ass to provide it to you for free,
but I also need to do other things for you to. I need to provide you
access to stuff and I need to track things in a different way and I need
to setup elaborate systems.
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Brian Mathis
These kind of ass-kissing posts are even worse than the flame wars.
The flame wars at least usually start with some sort of reasonable
criticism of the project, and have the *potential* to result in a
discussion that ultimately improves the
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 04:59:42PM -0400, Brian Mathis wrote:
Flame wars only start once Johnny or some sycophant tells everyone to
fuck off, thereby derailing any potential for a constructive
discussion. At that point you're left with lots of very smart, very
angry people who feel like they
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Radu Gheorghiu r...@pengooin.net wrote:
The main fear the developers have is that somebody could steal their
work and come up with
another RHEL clone easily if they release their build system scripts.
I think this is obvious by now.
It is also pretty obvious
On 05/16/2011 04:10 PM, Craig White wrote:
On May 16, 2011, at 11:47 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
Now, not only do I need to bust my ass to provide it to you for free,
but I also need to do other things for you to. I need to provide you
access to stuff and I need to track things in a
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 02:10:28PM -0700, Craig White wrote:
can't say that in all the years I've been using FOSS/Linux that I've
ever seen the maintainers have such open disdain for their users.
You're missing the point. The disdain, if that's truly what Johnny is
feeling, is only
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Craig White craig.wh...@ttiltd.com wrote:
can't say that in all the years I've been using FOSS/Linux that I've ever
seen the maintainers have such open disdain for their users. Clearly they
have gotten a massive code base for free and though the cost of
on 5/16/2011 11:40 AM Janne TH. Nyman spake the following:
Who cares? I find it amazing that these guys still keep on building and
providing considering how their users treat them.
Team CentOS, keep your heads up. For me, you are still the best thing
that happened since sliced bread.
I
On 05/17/2011 12:15 AM, Ron Blizzard wrote:
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Radu Gheorghiur...@pengooin.net wrote:
The main fear the developers have is that somebody could steal their
work and come up with
another RHEL clone easily if they release their build system scripts.
I think this
on 5/16/2011 11:40 AM Janne TH. Nyman spake the following:
Who cares? I find it amazing that these guys still keep on building and
providing considering how their users treat them.
Team CentOS, keep your heads up. For me, you are still the best thing
that happened since sliced bread.
I
On Mon, 16 May 2011 13:47:30 -0500
Johnny Hughes joh...@centos.org wrote:
Can't you ungrateful bastards take the free software I make by
following the licensing requirements and be happy with that?
Johnny please don't take this personally. I don't know who came with
the expression:
When you
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Ron Blizzard rb4cen...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Brian Mathis
These kind of ass-kissing posts are even worse than the flame wars.
The flame wars at least usually start with some sort of reasonable
criticism of the project, and have the
On 05/16/11 2:41 PM, Radu Gheorghiu wrote:
I never said I want to do it.
ah, so what DID you say? you want someone unspecified to do a
better/different job for you than someone else is already doing for free ?
man, its easy to volunteer other people from the comfort of your desk.
--
john r
On 05/17/2011 12:47 AM, John R Pierce wrote:
On 05/16/11 2:41 PM, Radu Gheorghiu wrote:
I never said I want to do it.
ah, so what DID you say? you want someone unspecified to do a
better/different job for you than someone else is already doing for free ?
man, its easy to volunteer other
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 12:41:23AM +0300, Radu Gheorghiu wrote:
On 05/17/2011 12:15 AM, Ron Blizzard wrote:
What a load of undiluted crap.
Please keep this for yourself.
Why when it's the truth. Does the truth hurt?
I never said I want to do it. I only said what the devs are obviously
On 05/17/2011 12:51 AM, John R. Dennison wrote:
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 12:41:23AM +0300, Radu Gheorghiu wrote:
On 05/17/2011 12:15 AM, Ron Blizzard wrote:
What a load of undiluted crap.
Please keep this for yourself.
Why when it's the truth. Does the truth hurt?
It may be the truth from
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 12:55:59AM +0300, Radu Gheorghiu wrote:
If some of you can't say anything smarter than crap, then please
Please do the rest of us a favor and take your own advice.
John
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People learn something every day, and a lot of
On Tue, 17 May 2011, Radu Gheorghiu wrote:
The main fear the developers have is that somebody could
steal their work and come up with another RHEL clone easily
if they release their build system scripts.
I think this is obvious by now.
'obvious' to you or not, such is not the case with
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 06:08:47PM -0400, R P Herrold wrote:
other RPM based, upstream derived, rebuild projects out there
as well, that a person has to look closely, and know the
history, or read the sources, to see where they came from
And then there's commercial projects, such as Citrix
On 05/15/2011 06:10 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
Where is Ubuntu telling people exactly where they stand on producing a
their new releases.
What about Red Hat ... how about Fedora.
I don't know about Ubuntu, I don't use it.
Fedora, on the other hand publishes their schedule:
On 05/15/2011 07:00 PM, Ron Blizzard wrote:
So, when you take 5.6 out of the mix (taking into account the three
releases at once), the average time from Red Hat 5.x release to CentOS
5.x release is 41.5 days. And 5.5 was 44 days. Your point?
There is a general trend toward longer delays
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Brian Mathis
The constant drip drip drip, as you put it, is generated from the
disrespect shown to the users, not the other way around. Anyone who
asks how much longer or how they can help is immediately slapped down
and told to go away.
Bullcrap. I've seen
Janne TH. Nyman wrote:
Who cares? I find it amazing that these guys still keep on building and
providing considering how their users treat them.
Team CentOS, keep your heads up. For me, you are still the best thing
that happened since sliced bread.
Come on, community, where is your love?
Gordon Messmer wrote:
On 05/15/2011 06:10 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
Where is Ubuntu telling people exactly where they stand on producing a
their new releases.
What about Red Hat ... how about Fedora.
I don't know about Ubuntu, I don't use it.
Fedora, on the other hand publishes their
Same weekly/bi-monthly BS.
YAA
It always circles back to a#$holes and elbows.
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On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 7:17 PM, aurfal...@gmail.com wrote:
Same weekly/bi-monthly BS.
YAA
It always circles back to a#$holes and elbows.
This is the main reason I want CentOS 6 to come out. I'm hoping for a
lull in the whining.
--
RonB -- Using CentOS 5.6
On May 16, 2011, at 5:22 PM, Ron Blizzard wrote:
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 7:17 PM, aurfal...@gmail.com wrote:
Same weekly/bi-monthly BS.
YAA
It always circles back to a#$holes and elbows.
This is the main reason I want CentOS 6 to come out. I'm hoping for a
lull in the whining.
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 7:25 PM, aurfal...@gmail.com wrote:
On May 16, 2011, at 5:22 PM, Ron Blizzard wrote:
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 7:17 PM, aurfal...@gmail.com wrote:
Same weekly/bi-monthly BS.
YAA
It always circles back to a#$holes and elbows.
This is the main reason I want
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Ron Blizzard rb4cen...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Brian Mathis
The constant drip drip drip, as you put it, is generated from the
disrespect shown to the users, not the other way around. Anyone who
asks how much longer or how they can
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Brian Mathis
People don't complain just for the fun of it (if that's the world you
live in, I feel sorry for you), they complain because something is
bothering them. In this case, it is the very real and measurable
delays in releases that seem to be getting
On Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:37 AM, Ron Blizzard wrote:
And, by the way, not directed specifically at you, but reading between
the lines it appears that one issue may be that some contractors are
selling cheap Red Hat to their customers and then, when the
customers ask Where's the update?
On 05/12/2011 02:05 AM, Ron Blizzard wrote:
But at that time there should only be one point release on the table,
instead of two point releases and one major release. Is everyone
forgetting that 4.9, 5.6 and 6.0 were all out at the same time?
As far as users know, all work on 6.0 was postponed
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 3:11 AM, Gordon Messmer yiny...@eburg.com wrote:
On 05/12/2011 02:05 AM, Ron Blizzard wrote:
But at that time there should only be one point release on the table,
instead of two point releases and one major release. Is everyone
forgetting that 4.9, 5.6 and 6.0 were all
A perhaps stupid question from a newby
Why 4.9 is out in a so long time frame after 5.0?
5.6 -- CentOS - 4/8/11SL - (Soon) --
same time frame (1 of 3)
5.5 -- CentOS - 5/14/10 SL - 5/19/10
5.4 -- CentOS - 10/21/9 SL -
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 16:35, Michel Donais don...@telupton.com wrote:
A perhaps stupid question from a newby
Why 4.9 is out in a so long time frame after 5.0?
5.6 -- CentOS - 4/8/11 SL - (Soon) --
same time frame (1 of 3)
5.5 -- CentOS -
On 05/15/2011 08:41 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote:
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 16:35, Michel Donais don...@telupton.com wrote:
A perhaps stupid question from a newby
Why 4.9 is out in a so long time frame after 5.0?
5.6 -- CentOS - 4/8/11SL - (Soon) --
same time frame (1 of
On 05/15/2011 03:52 AM, Ron Blizzard wrote:
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 3:11 AM, Gordon Messmeryiny...@eburg.com wrote:
As far as users know, all work on 6.0 was postponed to get 5.6 done. At
the time of 5.6's release, it was the only release the team was working
on. Work on 5 should have been
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Gordon Messmer yiny...@eburg.com wrote:
No, I'm not. Neither I nor Dag, as far as I saw, brought SL into the
conversation at all. The question is not whether CentOS can build
releases in less time than SL, or even a reasonable amount of time. The
question
On 05/15/2011 02:23 PM, Ron Blizzard wrote:
Obviously I missed the part where I (or someone) said (or claimed)
that 6.1 could be done in a month.
Well, that is where this branch of the thread began.
http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2011-May/111443.html
Ljubomir Ljubojevic began the
On 05/15/2011 05:12 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote:
On 05/15/2011 02:23 PM, Ron Blizzard wrote:
Obviously I missed the part where I (or someone) said (or claimed)
that 6.1 could be done in a month.
Well, that is where this branch of the thread began.
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Gordon Messmer yiny...@eburg.com wrote:
Look at wikipedia's page describing CentOS. They include a column for
the delay between the upstream release and CentOS's. For the 5 series,
it looks like:
Release Delay
5 28d
5.1 25d
5.2 34d
5.3
Tom H wrote:
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Christopher Chan
christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk wrote:
On Saturday, May 14, 2011 01:30 AM, Craig White wrote:
CentOS has always been a take it or leave it proposition and thus nothing
has really changed
except that many businesses have become
On May 12, 2011, at 4:47 PM, Ron Blizzard wrote:
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Craig White craig.wh...@ttiltd.com wrote:
On May 12, 2011, at 2:05 AM, Ron Blizzard wrote:
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 1:08 AM, Mark Bradbury mark.bradb...@gmail.com
wrote:
Do you expect the C6.0 - C6.1
On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Craig White craig.wh...@ttiltd.com wrote:
Lastly, Johnny has made clear that this is not supposed to be an SL
discussion list but curiously enough, SL is invoked by those who want to use
SL to justify the alacrity of the CentOS 6.0 release. As was pointed
On Saturday, May 14, 2011 01:30 AM, Craig White wrote:
CentOS has always been a take it or leave it proposition and thus nothing has
really changed except that many businesses have become reliant upon it and I
see my company and many other companies turning to Ubuntu not just because of
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