Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-05 Thread Brent L. Bates
Personally, I find this UPS exploding paranoia rather ridiculous. One person has one UPS burst into flames and everyone is yelling the sky is falling. We have no idea what conditions the UPS had been subjected to and to then jump to the conclusion that all UPS's are bombs waiting to explode

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-05 Thread Scott Silva
on 2-4-2009 1:43 PM Frank Cox spake the following: On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:36:30 -0500 Lanny Marcus wrote: Also, I am reminded that I need to take our 2 fire extinguishers to the fire station and pay them to discharge/recharge them.:-) Are you sure you need a full discharge/recharge?

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-05 Thread Scott Silva
on 2-5-2009 4:41 AM Brent L. Bates spake the following: Personally, I find this UPS exploding paranoia rather ridiculous. One person has one UPS burst into flames and everyone is yelling the sky is falling. We have no idea what conditions the UPS had been subjected to and to then jump

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-05 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Scott Silva ssi...@sgvwater.com wrote: on 2-4-2009 1:43 PM Frank Cox spake the following: On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:36:30 -0500 Lanny Marcus wrote: Also, I am reminded that I need to take our 2 fire extinguishers to the fire station and pay them to

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-04 Thread Rainer Duffner
Sorin Srbu schrieb: -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Scott Silva Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 10:45 PM To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed I just had a Back-UPS of about

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-04 Thread Toby Bluhm
Rainer Duffner wrote: Sorin Srbu schrieb: -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Scott Silva Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 10:45 PM To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed I just had

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-04 Thread Scott Silva
on 2-3-2009 11:57 PM Sorin Srbu spake the following: -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Scott Silva Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 10:45 PM To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed I

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-04 Thread Scott Silva
on 2-4-2009 7:16 AM Sorin Srbu spake the following: -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Toby Bluhm Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 3:44 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-04 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Scott Silva ssi...@sgvwater.com wrote: snip I just had a Back-UPS of about 1998 vintage burst into flames about 6 months ago. Luckily, someone was near it and grabbed a fire extinguisher. It was a Saturday, and if this person hadn't been in on overtime, who knows

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-04 Thread Frank Cox
On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 16:36:30 -0500 Lanny Marcus wrote: Also, I am reminded that I need to take our 2 fire extinguishers to the fire station and pay them to discharge/recharge them.:-) Are you sure you need a full discharge/recharge? I have several in my theatre and they have to be

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-04 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Scott Silva Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 8:01 PM To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed Looking again at the incident report, I think the unit might

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-03 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Les Mikesell Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 5:20 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed I've been buying from the Smart-UPS and Back-UPS range. Those

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-03 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of John R Pierce Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:49 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed Oh, didn't know about Best Power. Is that something like

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-03 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of John R Pierce Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:52 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed Sorin Srbu wrote: I've been buying from the Smart-UPS

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-03 Thread Anne Wilson
On Tuesday 03 February 2009 08:51:32 Sorin Srbu wrote: -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of John R Pierce Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 9:52 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-03 Thread Les Mikesell
Sorin Srbu wrote: The voltage has been fairly constant here over the years since I started using UPS and logging the voltage and stuff, 238V more or less constantly. It rarely drops below 236V or over 240V. We mainly use the UPS:es to have controlled shutdowns should the power fail entirely

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-03 Thread John R Pierce
Anne Wilson wrote: Actually, I have one box attached to a BackUPS that is about 15 years old, and has never had a replacement battery. It holds the box through power variations, and can supply power for a couple of minutes - enough to allow a shutdown, since that box is never running

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-03 Thread Scott Silva
list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed Sorin Srbu wrote: I've been buying from the Smart-UPS and Back-UPS range. Those should be ok, shouldn't they? SmartUPS, OK. BackUPS, cheap consumer junk. I've had to toss out dozens of various BackUPS units, mostly in the 450-600VA

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-03 Thread tech
John R Pierce wrote: all the BackUPs I've ever seen have been simple relay switched units. when the power is on, you're getting unfiltered power (except for a MOV based surge protector), when the power is out, it switches to the modified square wave inverter output. John, There are

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-03 Thread John R Pierce
tech wrote: John R Pierce wrote: all the BackUPs I've ever seen have been simple relay switched units. when the power is on, you're getting unfiltered power (except for a MOV based surge protector), when the power is out, it switches to the modified square wave inverter output.

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-03 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Les Mikesell Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 6:42 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed hospital with power-backups up to yinyang. But it failed

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-03 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Scott Silva Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 10:45 PM To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed I just had a Back-UPS of about 1998 vintage burst into flames

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-02 Thread Les Mikesell
Sorin Srbu wrote: Marking words: used to be best? Which is the best now then? APC is apparantely not an option as they suck bigtime IMO, so what's? Powerware and APC are the two biggest and most wellknown UPS-manufacturers I know of. APC does make a full line of units. Perhaps you aren't

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-02 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Les Mikesell Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 2:35 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed Marking words: used to be best? Which is the best now

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-02 Thread Les Mikesell
Sorin Srbu wrote: Marking words: used to be best? Which is the best now then? APC is apparantely not an option as they suck bigtime IMO, so what's? Powerware and APC are the two biggest and most wellknown UPS-manufacturers I know of. APC does make a full line of units. Perhaps you aren't

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-02 Thread John R Pierce
Sorin Srbu wrote: Oh, didn't know about Best Power. Is that something like Eatons budget-line brand or something? Best Power made the excellent midsized FerrUPS units 10+ years ago. washing machine sized 7kva kinda stuff. built like a tank, very serviceable. Eaton also acquired Sola,

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-02 Thread Toby Bluhm
Sorin Srbu wrote: -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of John R Pierce Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 6:49 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed Eaton Powerware used to be Best

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-02 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of John R Pierce Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 6:49 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed Eaton Powerware used to be Best, they made the very good

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-02 Thread Dick Roth
Les Mikesell wrote: Sorin Srbu wrote: Marking words: used to be best? Which is the best now then? APC is apparantely not an option as they suck bigtime IMO, so what's? Powerware and APC are the two biggest and most wellknown UPS-manufacturers I know of. APC does make a full line of units.

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-02-02 Thread John R Pierce
I've always felt UPS's should be in pairs, one for each side of each server's redundant PSUs. that way you can take one UPS offline entirely for service, whatever, and the systems can continue to be protected by the other UPS via their 2nd PSU.

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-31 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 30 January 2009 22:20:17 Glenn wrote: At 04:57 PM 1/30/2009, you wrote: On Friday 30 January 2009 20:51:53 Glenn wrote: Are you located in U.S., U.K. or Europe? I couldn't tell? UK Anne Reason I asked is because APC has refurbished UPS for half price with free shipping a

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-31 Thread John
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Toby Bluhm Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 8:05 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed John wrote: . . . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-31 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 31 January 2009 16:29:32 John wrote: -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Toby Bluhm Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 8:05 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-31 Thread John
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Anne Wilson Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2009 12:01 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed On Saturday 31 January 2009 16:29:32 John wrote

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 29 January 2009 23:46:12 Lanny Marcus wrote: On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Chris Boyd cb...@gizmopartners.com wrote: On Jan 29, 2009, at 2:44 PM, Anne Wilson wrote: You said that the UPS is fully charged. I wonder if you need a UPS with larger capacity and if your UPS is

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Scott Silva Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:37 PM To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed If you had many power failures, the filesystem might just

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Scott Silva Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:18 PM To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed Are the failures power related, or is the system just shutting

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Anne Wilson Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:28 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed I do have a UPS, and it's fully charged. The system is just

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Toby Bluhm Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:42 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague. Anne, is your

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Anne Wilson Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 9:15 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed Technicalities of power supply are not in any way my expertise

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 30 January 2009 09:49:46 Sorin Srbu wrote: -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Anne Wilson Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 9:15 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 30 January 2009 09:42:28 Sorin Srbu wrote: -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Toby Bluhm Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:42 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 30 January 2009 09:32:27 Sorin Srbu wrote: -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Scott Silva Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 5:37 PM To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Michael Simpson
@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed If you had many power failures, the filesystem might just be severely trashed. Journals and files out of sync, etc... If a good fsck didn't fix it, you might just be in for a wipe-reinstall, or many hours of finding and fixing

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread William L. Maltby
mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed Technicalities of power supply are not in any way my expertise. Are you saying that it would be wise to change the battery? Three, four years is a normal lifespan for a UPS-battery IIRC. Less if the batteries are used

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Anne Wilson Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 11:20 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed However, in some cases it's cheaper to just get a whole new

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Anne Wilson Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 11:21 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed Anne, is your motherboard an oldish MSI (Microstar

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Michael Simpson Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 11:45 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed [...snipped...] BT's response was to decrease the fault

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 30 January 2009 11:04:07 Sorin Srbu wrote: -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Anne Wilson Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 11:21 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 30 January 2009 11:02:50 Sorin Srbu wrote: -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Anne Wilson Sent: Friday, January 30, 2009 11:20 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Toby Bluhm
John wrote: . . . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague. I just fixed a test box that kept getting something like received INT 11 - no one cared and then locks up. Replaced two caps - I yanked them from some old, defunct power supplies. - How did you know they were bad?

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread jkinz
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:45:11AM +, Michael Simpson wrote: now we just need to work out how to get BT to replace the rotten copper in the POTS system -used to get 1.4Mbs, now getting a flaky 300Kbs down (yet 800 up!) and BT's response was to decrease the fault report level. Utilities

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Scott Silva
on 1-30-2009 12:15 AM Anne Wilson spake the following: On Thursday 29 January 2009 23:46:12 Lanny Marcus wrote: On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Chris Boyd cboyd-1sEnLahcNUY4yJ9dIELTZQC/g2k4z...@public.gmane.org wrote: On Jan 29, 2009, at 2:44 PM, Anne Wilson wrote: You said that the UPS is

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 30 January 2009 17:17:00 Chris Boyd wrote: On Jan 30, 2009, at 4:19 AM, Anne Wilson wrote: I know I was shocked at the price I had to pay last time I replaced the APC battery. My favourite vendor sells a lot of Liebert PowerSure UPSs, so I presume they have had no problems

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 29 January 2009 17:32:00 Les Mikesell wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: Are the failures power related, or is the system just shutting down on its own? If the latter, I would suspect either a power supply or a processor fan. If the former, maybe you need to invest in an inexpensive

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread John R Pierce
Anne Wilson wrote: On Friday 30 January 2009 11:02:50 Sorin Srbu wrote: Did you check Eaton Powerware? They are very competitively priced IMO. We bought APC's before as well, but I felt the controller software was not as smooth as it could've been and the battery replacement-programs very

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Scott Silva
on 1-30-2009 5:20 AM jk...@kinz.org spake the following: On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 10:45:11AM +, Michael Simpson wrote: now we just need to work out how to get BT to replace the rotten copper in the POTS system -used to get 1.4Mbs, now getting a flaky 300Kbs down (yet 800 up!) and BT's

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Chris Boyd
On Jan 30, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Anne Wilson wrote: OK, thanks. I'll look around. I guess if they are selling 'standard' batteries they will have some way of making sure that what I buy is compatible. Another adventure :-) There's info on the battery that will identify it. Voltage

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread John R Pierce
Chris Boyd wrote: On Jan 30, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Anne Wilson wrote: OK, thanks. I'll look around. I guess if they are selling 'standard' batteries they will have some way of making sure that what I buy is compatible. Another adventure :-) There's info on the battery that will

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 30 January 2009 19:33:24 John R Pierce wrote: Chris Boyd wrote: On Jan 30, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Anne Wilson wrote: OK, thanks. I'll look around. I guess if they are selling 'standard' batteries they will have some way of making sure that what I buy is compatible. Another

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Glenn
At 03:28 PM 1/30/2009, you wrote: On Friday 30 January 2009 19:33:24 John R Pierce wrote: Chris Boyd wrote: On Jan 30, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Anne Wilson wrote: OK, thanks. I'll look around. I guess if they are selling 'standard' batteries they will have some way of making sure that what

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Anne Wilson cannewil...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thursday 29 January 2009 17:32:00 Les Mikesell wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: Are the failures power related, or is the system just shutting down on its own? If the latter, I would suspect either a power supply

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 30 January 2009 20:51:53 Glenn wrote: Are you located in U.S., U.K. or Europe? I couldn't tell? UK Anne signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 30 January 2009 21:27:12 Lanny Marcus wrote: Even if the battery in your APC UPS is fully charged now, I would assume that it has been through the ringer, with what your village experienced recently, power wise. I'm inclined to think so, too. Do you find that nut handles all brands

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-30 Thread Glenn
At 04:57 PM 1/30/2009, you wrote: On Friday 30 January 2009 20:51:53 Glenn wrote: Are you located in U.S., U.K. or Europe? I couldn't tell? UK Anne Reason I asked is because APC has refurbished UPS for half price with free shipping a lot of the times in the US. I've had very good luck

[CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Anne Wilson
Since repeated power cuts last week I've been a bit worried about the state of my server. Today it spontaneously rebooted - but failed to complete. Now it isn't recognising me as a user, by the look of it, so I've got some questions before I do something that might make things worse. I can boot

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Jeff
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Anne Wilson cannewil...@googlemail.com wrote: snip I assume that the hdd is failing - but I haven't seen any messages from smartmontools. Is there any way I can check that? If it is I don't want to waste time trying to repair it. snip Most hdd manufacturers

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Alex H. Vandenham
On Thursday 29 January 2009 10:15:38 am Anne Wilson wrote: I assume that the hdd is failing - but I haven't seen any messages from smartmontools.  Is there any way I can check that?  If it is I don't want to waste time trying to repair it. try smartctl to see what the monitors have been

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Scott Silva
on 1-29-2009 8:30 AM Anne Wilson spake the following: 2009/1/29 Alex H. Vandenham alex-qMVNeVs1MAKw5LPnMra/2...@public.gmane.org: On Thursday 29 January 2009 10:15:38 am Anne Wilson wrote: I assume that the hdd is failing - but I haven't seen any messages from smartmontools. Is there any way

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Alex H. Vandenham
On Thursday 29 January 2009 11:37:00 am Scott Silva wrote: If you had many power failures, the filesystem might just be severely trashed. Journals and files out of sync, etc... If a good fsck didn't fix it, you might just be in for a wipe-reinstall, or many hours of finding and fixing

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Anne Wilson
2009/1/29 Scott Silva ssi...@sgvwater.com: on 1-29-2009 8:30 AM Anne Wilson spake the following: 2009/1/29 Alex H. Vandenham alex-qMVNeVs1MAKw5LPnMra/2...@public.gmane.org: On Thursday 29 January 2009 10:15:38 am Anne Wilson wrote: I assume that the hdd is failing - but I haven't seen any

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Franklin S Werren
Use Spinrite from www.grc.com It will work on any file system I have used it on Windows - Ubuntu Linux - and even an X-Box Works wonders Franklin S Werren Scott Silva wrote: on 1-29-2009 8:30 AM Anne Wilson spake the following: 2009/1/29 Alex H. Vandenham

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Anne Wilson
2009/1/29 Franklin S Werren ad...@chautauqualake.net: Use Spinrite from www.grc.com It will work on any file system I have used it on Windows - Ubuntu Linux - and even an X-Box Works wonders Data recovery isn't a problem - I've copied everything off. Still, I've bookmarked that, just in

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Anne Wilson
2009/1/29 Alex H. Vandenham a...@avantel.ca: On Thursday 29 January 2009 11:37:00 am Scott Silva wrote: If you had many power failures, the filesystem might just be severely trashed. Journals and files out of sync, etc... If a good fsck didn't fix it, you might just be in for a

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Scott Silva
on 1-29-2009 9:02 AM Anne Wilson spake the following: 2009/1/29 Scott Silva ssi...@sgvwater.com: on 1-29-2009 8:30 AM Anne Wilson spake the following: 2009/1/29 Alex H. Vandenham alex-qMVNeVs1MAKw5LPnMra/2q-xmd5yjdbdmrexy1tmh2...@public.gmane.org: On Thursday 29 January 2009 10:15:38 am Anne

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Anne Wilson
Are the failures power related, or is the system just shutting down on its own? If the latter, I would suspect either a power supply or a processor fan. If the former, maybe you need to invest in an inexpensive UPS. I do have a UPS, and it's fully charged. The system is just spontaneously

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Les Mikesell
Anne Wilson wrote: Are the failures power related, or is the system just shutting down on its own? If the latter, I would suspect either a power supply or a processor fan. If the former, maybe you need to invest in an inexpensive UPS. I do have a UPS, and it's fully charged. The system is

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Scott Silva
on 1-29-2009 9:28 AM Anne Wilson spake the following: Are the failures power related, or is the system just shutting down on its own? If the latter, I would suspect either a power supply or a processor fan. If the former, maybe you need to invest in an inexpensive UPS. I do have a UPS, and

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Toby Bluhm
Anne Wilson wrote: . . . I do have a UPS, and it's fully charged. The system is just spontaneously rebooting or shutting down. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague. I just fixed a test box that kept getting something like received INT 11 - no one cared and then locks up.

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Anne Wilson
2009/1/29 Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com: Anne Wilson wrote: Are the failures power related, or is the system just shutting down on its own? If the latter, I would suspect either a power supply or a processor fan. If the former, maybe you need to invest in an inexpensive UPS. I do

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Robert
Anne Wilson wrote: 2009/1/29 Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com: Anne Wilson wrote: Are the failures power related, or is the system just shutting down on its own? If the latter, I would suspect either a power supply or a processor fan. If the former, maybe you need to invest

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Lanny Marcus
On 1/29/09, Anne Wilson cannewil...@googlemail.com wrote: 2009/1/29 Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com: Anne Wilson wrote: Are the failures power related, or is the system just shutting down on its own? If the latter, I would suspect either a power supply or a processor fan. If the former,

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 29 January 2009 20:23:40 Lanny Marcus wrote: Anne, the machine I'm using right now ate my lunch big-time, perhaps a year ago.  It turned out to be the front panel momentary power switch on the junky consumer-grade case.  The really weird thing is, this box runs 24x7 and the switch

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 29 January 2009 20:23:40 Lanny Marcus wrote: Assuming that the Diagnostic tests you run on the hard drive and RAM are OK, if the box was made by Dell, Compaq/HP, etc., they probably have Diagnostics you can run on the mobo/cpu that you can Download from their web site. If not,

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Glenn
At 03:44 PM 1/29/2009, you wrote: On Thursday 29 January 2009 20:23:40 Lanny Marcus wrote: Assuming that the Diagnostic tests you run on the hard drive and RAM are OK, if the box was made by Dell, Compaq/HP, etc., they probably have Diagnostics you can run on the mobo/cpu that you can

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Chris Boyd
On Jan 29, 2009, at 2:44 PM, Anne Wilson wrote: You said that the UPS is fully charged. I wonder if you need a UPS with larger capacity and if your UPS is working properly. I don't think there's any problem with the UPS (APC). I've seen APC rack mount systems shut down the power outlets

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 6:07 PM, Chris Boyd cb...@gizmopartners.com wrote: On Jan 29, 2009, at 2:44 PM, Anne Wilson wrote: You said that the UPS is fully charged. I wonder if you need a UPS with larger capacity and if your UPS is working properly. I don't think there's any problem with the

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Aldo Foot
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: Are the failures power related, or is the system just shutting down on its own? If the latter, I would suspect either a power supply or a processor fan. If the former, maybe you need to invest in

Re: [CentOS] Emergency rescue help needed

2009-01-29 Thread Scott Silva
on 1-29-2009 4:29 PM Aldo Foot spake the following: On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Les Mikesell lesmikesell-re5jqeeqqe8avxtiumw...@public.gmane.org wrote: Anne Wilson wrote: Are the failures power related, or is the system just shutting down on its own? If the latter, I would suspect