Re: [CentOS] New controller card issues

2015-05-28 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 05/28/2015 11:13 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: So, I end up telling them: before telling others that 3ware RAID cards are bad and let you down, check that what you set up does not contain obvious blunders. OK. And I'll tell you that none of the failures that I've seen in the last 15 years

Re: [CentOS] New controller card issues

2015-05-28 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Thu, May 28, 2015 4:25 pm, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 05/28/2015 11:13 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: I do not want to start software vs hardware RAID wars here I'm not saying that hardware RAID is bad, entirely. Software RAID does have some advantages over hardware RAID, but my point has been

Re: [CentOS] New controller card issues

2015-05-28 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Thu, May 28, 2015 11:12 am, Kirk Bocek wrote: On 5/28/2015 9:03 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2015 10:46 am, Kirk Bocek wrote: On 5/26/2015 11:07 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Push came to shove - these things gag on a drive 2TB. I ran into this a couple of years ago with some

Re: [CentOS] New controller card issues

2015-05-28 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Thu, May 28, 2015 11:43 am, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 05/28/2015 09:12 AM, Kirk Bocek wrote: I suggest everyone stay away from 3Ware from now on. My experience has been that 3ware cards are less reliable that software RAID for a long, long time. It took me a while to convince my previous

Re: [CentOS] New controller card issues

2015-05-28 Thread m . roth
Kirk Bocek wrote: On 5/26/2015 11:07 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Push came to shove - these things gag on a drive 2TB. I ran into this a couple of years ago with some older 3Ware cards. A firmware update fixed it. a) The old one, and the new, are LSI. It's just that the original was

Re: [CentOS] New controller card issues

2015-05-28 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 05/28/2015 03:02 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: If I get you correctly you are saying that 3ware RAID cards are prone to hardware failures - as opposed to software RAID which is not (as it does not include hardware, so never has a hardware failures), right? No this is a joke of course. But it's

Re: [CentOS] New controller card issues

2015-05-28 Thread Keith Keller
On 2015-05-28, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: I do use both LSI and 3ware. Both are now owned by Avago. (Not sure when that happened, last I looked LSI was its own company.) For me big advantage of 3ware is transparent interface. By which I mean web interface. There is

Re: [CentOS] New controller card issues

2015-05-28 Thread Keith Keller
On 2015-05-28, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: Now, seriously: of more than a couple of dozens of cards I used during last about 13 years not a single one died on me. I have had a couple dozen hardware RAID controllers over the years. I have not had the success you've had, but

Re: [CentOS] New controller card issues

2015-05-28 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Thu, May 28, 2015 10:46 am, Kirk Bocek wrote: On 5/26/2015 11:07 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Push came to shove - these things gag on a drive 2TB. I ran into this a couple of years ago with some older 3Ware cards. A firmware update fixed it. With 3ware cards depending on card model:

Re: [CentOS] New controller card issues

2015-05-28 Thread Kirk Bocek
On 5/28/2015 9:03 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2015 10:46 am, Kirk Bocek wrote: On 5/26/2015 11:07 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Push came to shove - these things gag on a drive 2TB. I ran into this a couple of years ago with some older 3Ware cards. A firmware update fixed it.

Re: [CentOS] New controller card issues

2015-05-28 Thread Kirk Bocek
On 5/26/2015 11:07 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Push came to shove - these things gag on a drive 2TB. I ran into this a couple of years ago with some older 3Ware cards. A firmware update fixed it. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

Re: [CentOS] New controller card issues

2015-05-28 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 05/28/2015 09:12 AM, Kirk Bocek wrote: I suggest everyone stay away from 3Ware from now on. My experience has been that 3ware cards are less reliable that software RAID for a long, long time. It took me a while to convince my previous employer to stop using them. Inability to migrate

[CentOS] New controller card issues

2015-05-26 Thread m . roth
Running CentOS 5 (long story, will be updated some day). A 5 yr old Dell PE R415. Whoever spec'd the order, they got the cheapest, embedded controller. Push came to shove - these things gag on a drive 2TB. So, we bought some PERC H200's for it, and its two mates. This morning, I brought the

Re: [CentOS] New controller card issues

2015-05-26 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 05/26/2015 11:07 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: So: my manager and I are suspecting that the initrd simply doesn't have the driver for the card. I'm going to rebuild the initrd (once I figure out how to do that without the card in the box). The reason I'm posting is to ask y'all if anyone out

Re: [CentOS] New controller card issues

2015-05-26 Thread Johan Kooijman
Although it should be supported on C5 by default, since RHEL5 does. On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 10:44 PM, Gordon Messmer gordon.mess...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/26/2015 11:07 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: So: my manager and I are suspecting that the initrd simply doesn't have the driver for the