Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-04-01 Thread Rajagopal Swaminathan
Greetings, On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 4:07 AM, Steve Thompson s...@vgersoft.com wrote: On Wed, 31 Mar 2010, Milos Blazevic wrote: It's going to have an accident, pretty soon, pretty soon. Steve aah!... does anybody smell a BOFH here ;) http://www.theregister.co.uk/odds/bofh/ Regards,

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-04-01 Thread Mogens Kjaer
On 03/31/2010 09:19 PM, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: ... Yeah.. and with a fast internet connection it takes LONGER to build up the new rpms from the deltarpms compared to just downloading the new rpms as full packages :) I've noticed that too on my eee 901 with a slow flash disk. yum remove

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-04-01 Thread Mogens Kjaer
On 03/31/2010 11:43 PM, Milos Blazevic wrote: ... Current RHEL life cycle is in fact 7 years. Interesting, I remember hearing just the opposite - that they're about to reduce the life cycle from 7 to 5 years, since allegedly no one uses the same EL major release for more than 5 years. I

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-04-01 Thread William Warren
I'm not surprised at the delay for RHEL 6. Consider 2.x is still supported this means they are supporting 4 different RHEL versions right now. I would actually wait until at least 2.x dies..if not maybe 3.x before spitting out another version. On 4/1/2010 7:16 AM, Mogens Kjaer wrote: On

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-04-01 Thread Rainer Traut
Am 31.03.2010 18:47, schrieb MHR: Since 5.5 is now out from Red Hat and most likely our amazing CentOS team has already jumped on that, is there any word on Release 6? IIRC it's already a year out of date (base was supposed to be Fedora 10), so I have to wonder. I didn't see anything jump

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-04-01 Thread Mathieu Baudier
Afaik it's based on Fedora 12. Recent activity on the EPEL repo mailing list [1] seems to indicate that they plan to branch EPEL-6 packages from Fedora 12. I guess that they are well informed, so this supports the idea that Fedora 12 will be the basis for RHEL 6. [1]

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-04-01 Thread Benjamin Franz
Mogens Kjaer wrote: On 03/31/2010 11:43 PM, Milos Blazevic wrote: ... Current RHEL life cycle is in fact 7 years. Interesting, I remember hearing just the opposite - that they're about to reduce the life cycle from 7 to 5 years, since allegedly no one uses the same EL major release for

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-04-01 Thread Niki Kovacs
Mathieu Baudier a écrit : Afaik it's based on Fedora 12. Recent activity on the EPEL repo mailing list [1] seems to indicate that they plan to branch EPEL-6 packages from Fedora 12. Recently a friend of mine complained his Debian stable system was too conservative, given the somewhat

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-04-01 Thread R-Elists
They won't change the cycle for existing releases (they would get into contract liability if they did). RHEL2 is already out of support (it was end-of-lifed on May 31, 2009). RHEL3 will go out of support Oct 31, 2010. RHEL4 will go out of support Feb 29, 2012 RHEL5 will go out of

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-04-01 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/1/2010 10:14 AM, R-Elists wrote: They won't change the cycle for existing releases (they would get into contract liability if they did). RHEL2 is already out of support (it was end-of-lifed on May 31, 2009). RHEL3 will go out of support Oct 31, 2010. RHEL4 will go out of support Feb

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-04-01 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/1/2010 9:11 AM, Niki Kovacs wrote: Mathieu Baudier a écrit : Afaik it's based on Fedora 12. Recent activity on the EPEL repo mailing list [1] seems to indicate that they plan to branch EPEL-6 packages from Fedora 12. Recently a friend of mine complained his Debian stable system was

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-04-01 Thread nate
Niki Kovacs wrote: Recently a friend of mine complained his Debian stable system was too conservative, given the somewhat outdated software. I told him not to mind, since Debian is bleeding edge compared to my OS of choice. Maybe your friend needs another distro, of course everyone knows it's

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-04-01 Thread MHR
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 9:25 AM, nate cen...@linuxpowered.net wrote: I *just* finished upgrading to CentOS 5.4 6 days ago. How many people got trampled in the rush? ;^) mhr ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-04-01 Thread Scott Silva
on 4-1-2010 6:42 AM Benjamin Franz spake the following: Mogens Kjaer wrote: On 03/31/2010 11:43 PM, Milos Blazevic wrote: ... Current RHEL life cycle is in fact 7 years. Interesting, I remember hearing just the opposite - that they're about to reduce the life cycle from 7 to 5 years,

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-04-01 Thread R-Elists
RHEL2 is already out of support (it was end-of-lifed on May 31, 2009). RHEL3 will go out of support Oct 31, 2010. RHEL4 will go out of support Feb 29, 2012 Since the world will end in 2012, your version 5 installs will be just fine!!! LOL Scott, hehehe, do you mean

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-04-01 Thread R-Elists
I thought 4 was too buggy compared to 3 and held off upgrading most machines until 5 was out. In retrospect that still seems like it was a good move even if most of the problems in 4 were eventually fixed in updates. But with many years elapsing between releases, skipping a version

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-04-01 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/1/2010 12:08 PM, R-Elists wrote: I thought 4 was too buggy compared to 3 and held off upgrading most machines until 5 was out. In retrospect that still seems like it was a good move even if most of the problems in 4 were eventually fixed in updates. But with many years elapsing

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-04-01 Thread nate
MHR wrote: On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 9:25 AM, nate cen...@linuxpowered.net wrote: I *just* finished upgrading to CentOS 5.4 6 days ago. How many people got trampled in the rush? You might be surprised how many outages it takes to co-ordinate such an upgrade in a medium-large environment(and

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-04-01 Thread Robert Heller
At Thu, 01 Apr 2010 12:29:26 -0500 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: On 4/1/2010 12:08 PM, R-Elists wrote: I thought 4 was too buggy compared to 3 and held off upgrading most machines until 5 was out. In retrospect that still seems like it was a good move even if most of

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-04-01 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/1/2010 1:35 PM, Robert Heller wrote: I thought 4 was too buggy compared to 3 and held off upgrading most machines until 5 was out. In retrospect that still seems like it was a good move even if most of the problems in 4 were eventually fixed in updates. But with many years elapsing

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-04-01 Thread MHR
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:44 AM, nate cen...@linuxpowered.net wrote: You might be surprised how many outages it takes to co-ordinate such an upgrade in a medium-large environment(and nobody including me likes to take *everything* down at once though we did have such an outage a few weeks ago

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-04-01 Thread MHR
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Robert Heller hel...@deepsoft.com wrote: CentOSPlus has the firewire drivers... I asked about this a little while back, and I'm pretty sure the firewire drivers are ok in the non-plus CentOS. Or did I get that one wrong? mhr

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-04-01 Thread nate
MHR wrote: but I just don't like to do it. 30 systems? Yoik! Out of ~300 .. As for moving from 4 to 5, that's not a trivial thing at all - and it's not an upgrade per se unless you have LOTS of faith in the process. I always reinstall across releases, and that's a royal pain (though

[CentOS] Release 6?

2010-03-31 Thread MHR
Since 5.5 is now out from Red Hat and most likely our amazing CentOS team has already jumped on that, is there any word on Release 6? IIRC it's already a year out of date (base was supposed to be Fedora 10), so I have to wonder. I didn't see anything jump out at me on the Red Hat site, so -

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-03-31 Thread Paul Stuffins
Has RedHat even released RHEL6? ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-03-31 Thread Timo Schoeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 thus Paul Stuffins spake: Has RedHat even released RHEL6? Nope. But it's all over town that Red Hat might conduct one or more public (!) beta tests of RHEL within the next several weeks (mind Red Hat Summit in June). Timo -BEGIN PGP

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-03-31 Thread Paul Stuffins
thus Paul Stuffins spake: Has RedHat even released RHEL6? Nope. But it's all over town that Red Hat might conduct one or more public (!) beta tests of RHEL within the next several weeks (mind Red Hat Summit in June). I didn't think they had, hence no CentOS6. I have actually just been

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-03-31 Thread Dan Burkland
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Paul Stuffins Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 12:49 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Release 6? thus Paul Stuffins spake: Has RedHat even released RHEL6? Nope

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-03-31 Thread Les Mikesell
On 3/31/2010 12:48 PM, Paul Stuffins wrote: thus Paul Stuffins spake: Has RedHat even released RHEL6? Nope. But it's all over town that Red Hat might conduct one or more public (!) beta tests of RHEL within the next several weeks (mind Red Hat Summit in June). I didn't think they had,

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-03-31 Thread Paul Stuffins
Has it become usable again? Not sure, I don't use Fedora, I use CentOS on my servers and Linux Mint on my desk and laptop's. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-03-31 Thread Robert Heller
At Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:22:05 +0100 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: Has it become usable again? Not sure, I don't use Fedora, I use CentOS on my servers and Linux Mint on my desk and laptop's. *I* gave up on Fedora Core after FC2: I installed it on a dual Pentium Pro 200 box

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-03-31 Thread Tait Clarridge
On Wed, 2010-03-31 at 19:22 +0100, Paul Stuffins wrote: Has it become usable again? Not sure, I don't use Fedora, I use CentOS on my servers and Linux Mint on my desk and laptop's. _ I use F12 on my laptop. I have to say it runs very well (definite

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-03-31 Thread Niki Kovacs
Paul Stuffins a écrit : Has RedHat even released RHEL6? Here's some fresh info: http://www.serverwatch.com/news/article.php/3873916/Red-Hat-Enterprise-Linux-55-Released-RHEL-6-Coming-Soon.htm ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-03-31 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 02:43:38PM -0400, Tait Clarridge wrote: On Wed, 2010-03-31 at 19:22 +0100, Paul Stuffins wrote: Has it become usable again? Not sure, I don't use Fedora, I use CentOS on my servers and Linux Mint on my desk and laptop's. _

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-03-31 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010, Tait Clarridge wrote: On Wed, 2010-03-31 at 19:22 +0100, Paul Stuffins wrote: Has it become usable again? Not sure, I don't use Fedora, I use CentOS on my servers and Linux Mint on my desk and laptop's. I use F12 on my laptop. I have to say it runs very well (definite

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-03-31 Thread Les Mikesell
On 3/31/2010 1:58 PM, Paul Heinlein wrote: On Wed, 31 Mar 2010, Tait Clarridge wrote: On Wed, 2010-03-31 at 19:22 +0100, Paul Stuffins wrote: Has it become usable again? Not sure, I don't use Fedora, I use CentOS on my servers and Linux Mint on my desk and laptop's. I use F12 on my

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-03-31 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:58:25AM -0700, Paul Heinlein wrote: On Wed, 31 Mar 2010, Tait Clarridge wrote: On Wed, 2010-03-31 at 19:22 +0100, Paul Stuffins wrote: Has it become usable again? Not sure, I don't use Fedora, I use CentOS on my servers and Linux Mint on my desk and

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-03-31 Thread Les Mikesell
On 3/31/2010 2:19 PM, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:58:25AM -0700, Paul Heinlein wrote: On Wed, 31 Mar 2010, Tait Clarridge wrote: On Wed, 2010-03-31 at 19:22 +0100, Paul Stuffins wrote: Has it become usable again? Not sure, I don't use Fedora, I use CentOS on my servers

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-03-31 Thread Joseph L. Casale
A lot of the work after Fedora 6 seemed to revolve around making single-user desktop type access more convenient at the expense of more general purpose server concepts - and making it boot quickly which isn't a big priority on boxes that run all the time. And some things even when not

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-03-31 Thread Spiro Harvey
Since 5.5 is now out from Red Hat and most likely our amazing CentOS team has already jumped on that, is there any word on Release 6? IIRC it's already a year out of date (base was supposed to be Fedora 10), so I have to wonder. I vaguely recollect that RH mentioned pushing out the (total)

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-03-31 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: We use F12 headless, so I can't comment on desktop issues, but I really like the deltarpm stuff. It really cuts down on bandwidth requirements on a frequently updated distro like Fedora. Yeah.. and with a fast internet connection it takes LONGER to

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-03-31 Thread Milos Blazevic
Spiro Harvey wrote: Since 5.5 is now out from Red Hat and most likely our amazing CentOS team has already jumped on that, is there any word on Release 6? IIRC it's already a year out of date (base was supposed to be Fedora 10), so I have to wonder. I vaguely recollect that RH

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-03-31 Thread Joe Klemmer
On Wed, 2010-03-31 at 13:14 -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: It's about time someone did that. I completely gave up on Fedora after version 6 and unsubscribed from the mail list because they were only interested in changing things and adding features, not making anything work. Has it become

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-03-31 Thread Steve Thompson
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010, Milos Blazevic wrote: I mean, can you imagine anyone who used RHEL 2.1 up until less than a year ago? Actually, I still have an RHEL 2.1 system in production. My excuse is that it is an Itanium I box (an HP I2000), and this is the latest version that will run on it. And

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-03-31 Thread Milos Blazevic
Steve Thompson wrote: On Wed, 31 Mar 2010, Milos Blazevic wrote: I mean, can you imagine anyone who used RHEL 2.1 up until less than a year ago? Actually, I still have an RHEL 2.1 system in production. My excuse is that it is an Itanium I box (an HP I2000), and this is the

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-03-31 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010, Steve Thompson wrote: On Wed, 31 Mar 2010, Milos Blazevic wrote: I mean, can you imagine anyone who used RHEL 2.1 up until less than a year ago? Actually, I still have an RHEL 2.1 system in production. My excuse is that it is an Itanium I box (an HP I2000), and this

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-03-31 Thread Kwan Lowe
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Milos Blazevic milos.blaze...@sbb.rs wrote: Current RHEL life cycle is in fact 7 years. Interesting, I remember hearing just the opposite - that they're about to reduce the life cycle from 7 to 5 years, since allegedly no one uses the same EL major release for

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-03-31 Thread Les Mikesell
On 3/31/2010 4:43 PM, Milos Blazevic wrote: Current RHEL life cycle is in fact 7 years. Interesting, I remember hearing just the opposite - that they're about to reduce the life cycle from 7 to 5 years, since allegedly no one uses the same EL major release for more than 5 years. I mean, can

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-03-31 Thread Stephen Harris
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 06:18:17PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: When something works right there's not much need to change it. I still have an RH 7.3 box running that's had a couple of 4-year uptime spans I hope there's very little internet exposure on that box; even ssh has had remote

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-03-31 Thread Michael Semcheski
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: Well all valid, I always laugh when I see posts in Fedora list about people setting up Fedora as servers at work. Well, I love to make people laugh so I'll chime in here. I do use Fedora for some hosting, and

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-03-31 Thread Jeremy Rosengren
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Joseph L. Casale jcas...@activenetwerx.com wrote: Well all valid, I always laugh when I see posts in Fedora list about people setting up Fedora as servers at work. I can't imagine such a practice. I use at home only on my desktop for the bleeding edge

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-03-31 Thread Joseph L. Casale
I run Fedora on servers at home without any issues. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] Release 6?

2010-03-31 Thread Spiro Harvey
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 15:47:56 -0700 (PDT) Paul Heinlein heinl...@madboa.com wrote: If the accident accidentally involves a circular saw, a YouTube link would be really cool! :-) You know you use Reddit too much when you look for an upvote button. ;) -- Spiro Harvey Knossos