Re: [CentOS] Software RAID complete drives or individual partitions

2013-03-06 Thread SilverTip257
if your luck to drys up! :) -Original Message- From: John R Pierce Sent: 3/5/2013 6:45 PM To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Software RAID complete drives or individual partitions On 3/5/2013 4:27 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: The question is why are you using raid at all

Re: [CentOS] Software RAID complete drives or individual partitions

2013-03-06 Thread Mark Snyder
To: centos@centos.org Sent: Monday, March 4, 2013 9:53:48 PM Subject: [CentOS] Software RAID complete drives or individual partitions I have been reading about software raid. I configured my first software raid system about a month ago. I have 4 500 Gig drives configured in RAID 5 configuration

Re: [CentOS] Software RAID complete drives or individual partitions

2013-03-06 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Mark Snyder msny...@highlandsolutions.com wrote: I've used software raid quite a bit, and have developed a few rules of thumb, hope these help! Do you (or anyone...) have any rules of thumb regarding drives over 2TB or using raid sets that were created on

Re: [CentOS] Software RAID complete drives or individual partitions

2013-03-06 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 03/04/2013 07:53 PM, Chris Weisiger wrote: Currently I configured the complete individual drivers as software raid, then created a /dev/md0 with the drives If you configure an entire drive as a raid device, you'd have a device name like /dev/mdp0, which you'd then partition. I think what

Re: [CentOS] Software RAID complete drives or individual partitions

2013-03-06 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 03/05/2013 05:58 AM, SilverTip257 wrote: Veering slightly from your original question... I recently set up softraid arrays by hand before invoking the Anaconda installer (on a 6.3 install). Recent mdadm packages that ship with CentOS support metadata 1.1 and 1.2 (... actually defaulting

Re: [CentOS] Software RAID complete drives or individual partitions

2013-03-06 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 03/06/2013 08:00 AM, Mark Snyder wrote: - Avoid software RAID5 or 6, only use it for RAID1 or 10. Software RAID5 performance can be abysmal, because of the parity calculations and the fact that each write to the array requires that all drives be read and written. My understanding of Linux

Re: [CentOS] Software RAID complete drives or individual partitions

2013-03-06 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Gordon Messmer yiny...@eburg.com wrote: Hopefully BTRFS will simplify this even further in the near future. :) I wouldn't hold my breath. Someone on the backuppc list reported that it had a tiny limit on hardlinks which would make it seem to me like they don't

Re: [CentOS] Software RAID complete drives or individual partitions

2013-03-06 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 03/06/2013 11:49 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: I wouldn't hold my breath. Someone on the backuppc list reported that it had a tiny limit on hardlinks which would make it seem to me like they don't quite understand how filesystems are supposed to work. The limitation was fixed in 3.7:

Re: [CentOS] Software RAID complete drives or individual partitions

2013-03-06 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Gordon Messmer yiny...@eburg.com wrote: On 03/06/2013 11:49 AM, Les Mikesell wrote: I wouldn't hold my breath. Someone on the backuppc list reported that it had a tiny limit on hardlinks which would make it seem to me like they don't quite understand how

Re: [CentOS] Software RAID complete drives or individual partitions

2013-03-06 Thread Leon Fauster
Am 06.03.2013 um 17:25 schrieb Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com: On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Mark Snyder msny...@highlandsolutions.com wrote: I've used software raid quite a bit, and have developed a few rules of thumb, hope these help! Do you (or anyone...) have any rules of

Re: [CentOS] Software RAID complete drives or individual partitions

2013-03-06 Thread John R Pierce
On 3/6/2013 12:22 PM, Leon Fauster wrote: AFAIK you need to use a GPT for partitions with 2TB ... you need GPT to partition devices larger than 2TB, regardless of the parittion size. me, I use parted # parted /dev/sdc label gpt # parted /dev/sdc -a none mkpart primary 512s -1s to

Re: [CentOS] Software RAID complete drives or individual partitions

2013-03-06 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 03/06/2013 12:20 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: OK, but in my opinion it is worse if that was a design decision that is just now being changed. Bugs I can understand, but not choosing to design a new filesystem with unrealistic limitations. It's not being changed, per se. A reasonable means of

Re: [CentOS] Software RAID complete drives or individual partitions

2013-03-06 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 2:42 PM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: AFAIK you need to use a GPT for partitions with 2TB ... you need GPT to partition devices larger than 2TB, regardless of the parittion size. me, I use parted # parted /dev/sdc label gpt # parted /dev/sdc

Re: [CentOS] Software RAID complete drives or individual partitions

2013-03-06 Thread John R Pierce
On 3/6/2013 1:12 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: Large drives often have 4k sectors - don't you want a 1M offset to make sure the partition start is aligned? 256K is a multiple of 4K. sure, you could use 2048s instead if you wanted 1M boundaries, its all good. -- john r pierce

Re: [CentOS] Software RAID complete drives or individual partitions

2013-03-06 Thread SilverTip257
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Gordon Messmer yiny...@eburg.com wrote: On 03/05/2013 05:58 AM, SilverTip257 wrote: Veering slightly from your original question... I recently set up softraid arrays by hand before invoking the Anaconda installer (on a 6.3 install). Recent mdadm packages

Re: [CentOS] Software RAID complete drives or individual partitions

2013-03-05 Thread SilverTip257
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Chris Weisiger cweisi...@bellsouth.netwrote: I have been reading about software raid. I configured my first software raid system about a month ago. I have 4 500 Gig drives configured in RAID 5 configuration with a total of 1.5TB. Currently I configured the

Re: [CentOS] Software RAID complete drives or individual partitions

2013-03-05 Thread Mark LaPierre
On 03/04/2013 10:53 PM, Chris Weisiger wrote: I have been reading about software raid. I configured my first software raid system about a month ago. I have 4 500 Gig drives configured in RAID 5 configuration with a total of 1.5TB. Currently I configured the complete individual drivers as

Re: [CentOS] Software RAID complete drives or individual partitions

2013-03-05 Thread John R Pierce
On 3/5/2013 4:27 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: The question is why are you using raid at all? indeed. the primary justification for the R in RAID, Redundant, is high availability. having the OS on a non-raid volume completely violates this.RAID is most definitely NOT a substitute for

Re: [CentOS] Software RAID complete drives or individual partitions

2013-03-05 Thread Chris Weisiger
testing with it to possible use it for some of the clients that the business I work for do work for for basic file server services -Original Message- From: Mark LaPierre Sent: 3/5/2013 6:27 PM To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Software RAID complete drives or individual partitions

Re: [CentOS] Software RAID complete drives or individual partitions

2013-03-05 Thread John R Pierce
On 3/5/2013 5:18 PM, Chris Weisiger wrote: I essentially configured the software raid to create a home server and not have to worry about individual drives. I've built a collection of several several gigs of music and pictures. Enough to look into a raid system. Plus it is alot cheaper than

Re: [CentOS] Software RAID complete drives or individual partitions

2013-03-05 Thread Chris Weisiger
PM To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Software RAID complete drives or individual partitions On 3/5/2013 4:27 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: The question is why are you using raid at all? indeed. the primary justification for the R in RAID, Redundant, is high availability. having the OS

Re: [CentOS] Software RAID complete drives or individual partitions

2013-03-05 Thread Chris Weisiger
Im in the process of configuring my data to be backed up to external devices. -Original Message- From: John R Pierce Sent: 3/5/2013 6:45 PM To: centos@centos.org Subject: Re: [CentOS] Software RAID complete drives or individual partitions On 3/5/2013 4:27 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote

[CentOS] Software RAID complete drives or individual partitions

2013-03-04 Thread Chris Weisiger
I have been reading about software raid. I configured my first software raid system about a month ago. I have 4 500 Gig drives configured in RAID 5 configuration with a total of 1.5TB. Currently I configured the complete individual drivers as software raid, then created a /dev/md0 with the