I mean if you go from supplying perl and some perl-scripted functionality, you
either have to drop the functionality or some engineer has to rewrite the code
in a different language - something that usually isn't cheap. I've never
tried
perl2c - if such a thing exists it probably embeds
On 2/5/2010 5:22 PM, Alan McKay wrote:
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Les Mikeselllesmikes...@gmail.com
wrote:
Can you put a realistic price on what the extra resources would cost
these days?
Clearly you've never worked for a large company if you even ask that
question.
A $1 difference
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
Can you put a realistic price on what the extra resources would cost
these days?
Clearly you've never worked for a large company if you even ask that
question.
A $1 difference in cost over 100,000 units sold is $100,000 in your
pocket.
I recall the first model of
On Sat, 2010-02-06 at 17:26 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote:
I mean if you go from supplying perl and some perl-scripted
functionality, you
either have to drop the functionality or some engineer has to rewrite
the code
in a different language
The perl interpreter is already written in C so
Am Donnerstag, den 04.02.2010, 19:31 +0100 schrieb Alan McKay:
It depends on what you need to do. If you really have enough machines
or long-running jobs that a shell loop through them isn't practical, you
might want something higher-level like cfengine or puppet, or at least
something
In (HPC) clustering pdsh is very popular. It's available in .tgz with
spec-file and rebuilds nicely on c5 with rpmbuild -tb ...
https://computing.llnl.gov/linux/pdsh.html
Coming from the HPC world I've been a long time PDSH user. I believe it is
available in rpmforge, so there is no
Alan McKay wrote:
It depends on what you need to do. If you really have enough machines
or long-running jobs that a shell loop through them isn't practical, you
might want something higher-level like cfengine or puppet, or at least
something running under cron to make them independent.
On 2/5/2010 8:44 AM, Marcelo M. Garcia wrote:
Alan McKay wrote:
It depends on what you need to do. If you really have enough machines
or long-running jobs that a shell loop through them isn't practical, you
might want something higher-level like cfengine or puppet, or at least
something
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote:
Python just seems like something that should be avoided in system
management tools. Remember having to do special case things like having
to 'yum update python\* yum\*' sometimes to keep the rest of an update
from
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com
wrote:
Python just seems like something that should be avoided in system
management tools. Remember having to do special case things like having
to 'yum update python\* yum\*' sometimes to keep the rest of an update
from
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 12:45 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
Never had a problem with perl updates breaking anything. I do remember a
few years back, when it seemed as though any time I tried to install or
upgrade something that was in python, it *ALWAYS* wanted a different
subrelease, and
On 2/5/2010 11:30 AM, Alan McKay wrote:
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Les Mikeselllesmikes...@gmail.com wrote:
Python just seems like something that should be avoided in system
management tools. Remember having to do special case things like having
to 'yum update python\* yum\*'
On 2/5/2010 12:09 PM, Alan McKay wrote:
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 12:45 PM,m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
Never had a problem with perl updates breaking anything. I do remember a
few years back, when it seemed as though any time I tried to install or
upgrade something that was in python, it *ALWAYS*
Les Mikesell wrote:
We removed it from the Nortel BCM because the perl installation
accounted for more than half the space on our embedded Linux.
Can you put a realistic price on what the extra resources would cost
these days?
when you're running on an embedded single chip
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote:
Can you put a realistic price on what the extra resources would cost
these days?
Clearly you've never worked for a large company if you even ask that question.
A $1 difference in cost over 100,000 units sold is $100,000
On 2/5/2010 5:22 PM, Alan McKay wrote:
On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Les Mikeselllesmikes...@gmail.com wrote:
Can you put a realistic price on what the extra resources would cost
these days?
Clearly you've never worked for a large company if you even ask that question.
A $1 difference in
Hey folks,
I stumbled upon this while looking for something else
http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/151340
And it is something I could actually really make use of. But right on
that site they list 3 different ones, and so I'm wondering what all is
out there and what I should use.
Is there
On 2/4/2010 11:45 AM, Alan McKay wrote:
Hey folks,
I stumbled upon this while looking for something else
http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/151340
And it is something I could actually really make use of. But right on
that site they list 3 different ones, and so I'm wondering what all is
It depends on what you need to do. If you really have enough machines
or long-running jobs that a shell loop through them isn't practical, you
might want something higher-level like cfengine or puppet, or at least
something running under cron to make them independent.
cfengine or puppet (or
Alan McKay wrote:
I was actually going to start another configuration management redux
thread as a follow up to a thread I started a few months ago.
As Les mentioned, it's far more common in that situation to use
ssh key authentication and a for loop, if your ssh key has a pass
phrase use a
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 01:31:39PM -0500, Alan McKay wrote:
It depends on what you need to do. If you really have enough machines
or long-running jobs that a shell loop through them isn't practical, you
might want something higher-level like cfengine or puppet, or at least
something
On 2/4/2010 12:31 PM, Alan McKay wrote:
It depends on what you need to do. If you really have enough machines
or long-running jobs that a shell loop through them isn't practical, you
might want something higher-level like cfengine or puppet, or at least
something running under cron to make
I've been using clusterit for several years for multiple small
clusters. It works well
and was easy to install. I believe I got the Fedora source RPM and rebuilt
it for CentOS.
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Gavin Carr ga...@openfusion.com.au wrote:
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 01:31:39PM -0500,
On 2/4/2010 12:45 PM, nate wrote:
Alan McKay wrote:
I was actually going to start another configuration management redux
thread as a follow up to a thread I started a few months ago.
As Les mentioned, it's far more common in that situation to use
ssh key authentication and a for loop, if
On 02/04/2010 06:31 PM, Alan McKay wrote:
cfengine or puppet (or something else - slackmaster?) are where I want
slackmaster, i dont know about - but are you refering to 'slack' ? its a
fairly easy way to get started, and is essentially a wrapper around
rsync. takes about 2 min to get setup
On Thursday 04 February 2010, Alan McKay wrote:
Hey folks,
I stumbled upon this while looking for something else
http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/151340
And it is something I could actually really make use of. But right on
that site they list 3 different ones, and so I'm wondering
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