Re: [CentOS] cobbler installation of CentOS-5.5

2011-04-03 Thread Timothy Murphy
Timothy Murphy wrote:

 you can dd the whole IMG to your stick, but its cleaner to collect such
 images and reference them in syslinux.cfg.
 
 To setup your stick to bootZZ
 #syslinux -s /dev/sda   (unmounted USB disk)
 
 Thanks for the suggestion.
 
 But would that be simpler than transferring netinstall.iso to a USB stick?
 (I've always found the syslinux documentation bizarre,
 with its frequent references to floppies.)

I tried following my own suggestion - transferring CentOS netinstall
to a USB stick with liveusb-creator (on a Fedora-14 laptop).
But to my surprise this failed with the error message
ISO MD5 checksum verification failed

However, md5sum seemed to find the ISO OK:
=
[tim@blanche Documents]$ md5sum -c md5sum.txt.asc
...
CentOS-5.5-x86_64-netinstall.iso: OK
=
sha1sum also finds it OK.

I tried downloading the ISO again, but the outcome was the same.

The ISO is very short - just 10MB.
But it looks OK when I loop-mount it.

I wonder if anyone can cast light on this?



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Re: [CentOS] cobbler installation of CentOS-5.5

2011-04-02 Thread Timothy Murphy
Mark Pryor wrote:

  I'm trying to install CentOS-5.5 on my new HP
 micro-server,
  which has no CD drive.

 If all you want to do is kick-off an install via USB stick, you want
 
 http://mirrors.kernel.org/centos/5.5/os/x86_64/images/diskboot.img
 
 and use syslinux/memdisk to boot it on a vfat partition
 
 - syslinux.cfg 
 label c564
 kernel memdisk
 append initrd=/diskboot.img
 - snip 
 
 you can dd the whole IMG to your stick, but its cleaner to collect such
 images and reference them in syslinux.cfg.
 
 To setup your stick to bootZZ
 #syslinux -s /dev/sda   (unmounted USB disk)

Thanks for the suggestion.

But would that be simpler than transferring netinstall.iso to a USB stick?
(I've always found the syslinux documentation bizarre,
with its frequent references to floppies.)





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Re: [CentOS] cobbler installation of CentOS-5.5

2011-04-01 Thread Timothy Murphy
Timothy Murphy wrote:

 I'm trying to install CentOS-5.5 on my new HP micro-server,
 which has no CD drive.
 
 I've set up cobbler and cobbler-web on my old server,
 and can access cobbler-web from my laptop.

Just to end the story.
Having found the DVD ISO with the help of this newsgroup,
I installed CentOS-5.5 on my HP micro-server
using cobbler, with no trouble at all.

But I was surprised to find that this had deleted the partitioning
which I had carefully installed with Fedora Live CD on a USB stick,
and assigned the whole disk to LVM.

I looked on the web to see how I could modify ks.cfg
to make a partition of my own choice,
but decided after a brief study that life is too short
to spend on the intricacies of kickstart.

So I have given up cobbler, and will try the netinstall CD next,
installing it on a USB stick.
If that doesn't work I shall put the CentOS Live CD on a stick,
and install that on the hard disk.


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Re: [CentOS] cobbler installation of CentOS-5.5

2011-04-01 Thread Mark Pryor


--- On Fri, 4/1/11, Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net wrote:

 From: Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net
 Subject: Re: [CentOS] cobbler installation of CentOS-5.5
 To: centos@centos.org
 Date: Friday, April 1, 2011, 5:46 PM
 Timothy Murphy wrote:
 
  I'm trying to install CentOS-5.5 on my new HP
 micro-server,
  which has no CD drive.
  
  I've set up cobbler and cobbler-web on my old server,
  and can access cobbler-web from my laptop.
 
 Just to end the story.
 Having found the DVD ISO with the help of this newsgroup,
 I installed CentOS-5.5 on my HP micro-server
 using cobbler, with no trouble at all.
 
 But I was surprised to find that this had deleted the
 partitioning
 which I had carefully installed with Fedora Live CD on a
 USB stick,
 and assigned the whole disk to LVM.
 
 I looked on the web to see how I could modify ks.cfg
 to make a partition of my own choice,
 but decided after a brief study that life is too short
 to spend on the intricacies of kickstart.
 
 So I have given up cobbler, and will try the netinstall CD
 next,
 installing it on a USB stick.
 If that doesn't work I shall put the CentOS Live CD on a
 stick,
 and install that on the hard disk.

If all you want to do is kick-off an install via USB stick, you want

http://mirrors.kernel.org/centos/5.5/os/x86_64/images/diskboot.img

and use syslinux/memdisk to boot it on a vfat partition

- syslinux.cfg 
label c564
kernel memdisk
append initrd=/diskboot.img
- snip 

you can dd the whole IMG to your stick, but its cleaner to collect such
images and reference them in syslinux.cfg.

To setup your stick to boot
#syslinux -s /dev/sda   (unmounted USB disk)

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Re: [CentOS] cobbler installation of CentOS-5.5

2011-03-29 Thread Tony Molloy
On Monday 28 March 2011 16:37:33 Timothy Murphy wrote:
 m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
  2. The CentOS OS seems to be available in 7 or 8 CDs.
  (I tried downloading the DVD ISO with ktorrent,
  but this was a complete failure.
  It started OK, but then created literally thousands of links
  to one file, which brought my server down,
  and left it in a state which was quite hard to clean up.)
  
  Dunno. Last time I brought down the DVD iso, I had no trouble just doing
  a straight d/l, no torrent.
 
 Where did you find the DVD ISO?
 When I follow the download instructions at http://www.centos.org/
 I am only offered local, ie west european, mirrors,
 and none of those I looked at had the DVD ISO;
 all of them just had 8 CD ISOs.
 

You could try your local mirror ;-)

  ftp.heanet.ie:/pub/centos/5.5/isos/i386/CentOS-5.5-i386-bin-DVD.iso

or
  ftp.heanet.ie:/pub/centos/5.5/isos/x86_64/CentOS-5.5-x86_64-bin-DVD-1of2.iso
and
  ftp.heanet.ie:/pub/centos/5.5/isos/x86_64/CentOS-5.5-x86_64-bin-DVD-2of2.iso

Tony



  Mount the CD isos using loopback (mount -o loop), and copy.
  snip
 
 I didn't follow this.
 Do you mean mount each of the 8 CDs using loopback?
 And what exactly am I meant to copy?
 
 I need to indicate where cobbler import should look, I assume.
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Re: [CentOS] cobbler installation of CentOS-5.5

2011-03-29 Thread Timothy Murphy
Phil Schaffner wrote:

 However, when I go towww.centos.org  and click on
 Downloads=Mirrors=CentOS-5 ISOs=x86_64
 
 Go to
 
 Downloads / Mirrors / Mirror List
 
 And look at the column headed Direct DVD Downloads.

Thanks, I do see that now.
However, it is far from obvious.
Also, for some reason heanet.ie which is listed there
does not appear in the list of local repositories,
which is what is given you if you follow the links
in the title bar.

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Re: [CentOS] cobbler installation of CentOS-5.5

2011-03-29 Thread Timothy Murphy
Tony Molloy wrote:

 You could try your local mirror ;-)
 
   ftp.heanet.ie:/pub/centos/5.5/isos/i386/CentOS-5.5-i386-bin-DVD.iso

I did find that later.

For some reason it is not given (no site in Ireland is given)
in the list of local mirrors which I get
if I follow the links in the title bar from http://www.centos.org
Downloads=Mirrors=CentOS-5 ISOs=x86_64

But not to worry - I have the DVD ISO now.


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[CentOS] cobbler installation of CentOS-5.5

2011-03-28 Thread Timothy Murphy
I'm trying to install CentOS-5.5 on my new HP micro-server,
which has no CD drive.

I've set up cobbler and cobbler-web on my old server,
and can access cobbler-web from my laptop.

I have 3 queries about the installation.

1. Is there any advantage is using the 64-bit CentOS
rather than 32-bit?

2. The CentOS OS seems to be available in 7 or 8 CDs.
(I tried downloading the DVD ISO with ktorrent,
but this was a complete failure.
It started OK, but then created literally thousands of links
to one file, which brought my server down,
and left it in a state which was quite hard to clean up.)

But how exactly do I cobbler import these?
I see that for Fedora on my laptop I ran
sudo cobbler import --path=/mnt/dvd --name=F14-i386

3. Is there actually a way of converting the 7 or 8 CD ISOs
into a DVD ISO?
I saw instructions that suggested concatenating them,
and then running rsync against a DVD ISO, at
http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2011-January/104448.html.
I tried the site recommended, but could not access the DVD ISO.

In fact, if I could access a DVD ISO, couldn't I download it directly?
So what would be the point of this exercise?


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Re: [CentOS] cobbler installation of CentOS-5.5

2011-03-28 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 03:49:21PM +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
 I'm trying to install CentOS-5.5 on my new HP micro-server, which has
 no CD drive.
 
 I've set up cobbler and cobbler-web on my old server, and can access
 cobbler-web from my laptop.
 
 I have 3 queries about the installation.
 
 1. Is there any advantage is using the 64-bit CentOS rather than
 32-bit?
 
 2. The CentOS OS seems to be available in 7 or 8 CDs.  (I tried
 downloading the DVD ISO with ktorrent, but this was a complete
 failure.  It started OK, but then created literally thousands of
 links to one file, which brought my server down, and left it in a
 state which was quite hard to clean up.)
 
 But how exactly do I cobbler import these?  I see that for Fedora
 on my laptop I ran
 sudo cobbler import --path=/mnt/dvd --name=F14-i386
 
 3. Is there actually a way of converting the 7 or 8 CD ISOs into a
 DVD ISO?  I saw instructions that suggested concatenating them, and
 then running rsync against a DVD ISO, at
 http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2011-January/104448.html.
 I tried the site recommended, but could not access the DVD ISO.
 
 In fact, if I could access a DVD ISO, couldn't I download it
 directly?  So what would be the point of this exercise?

Why not use the netinstall ISO rather than download everything?

Recreating a DVD image from the ISO's _is_ possible, but honestly, not
worth the work, IMHO.

Perhaps the LiveCD ISO would be an option as well (I belive you can
install from it).

x86_64 is useful if you're going to have a lot of memory or large file
systems.

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Re: [CentOS] cobbler installation of CentOS-5.5

2011-03-28 Thread m . roth
Timothy Murphy wrote:
 I'm trying to install CentOS-5.5 on my new HP micro-server,
 which has no CD drive.

 I've set up cobbler and cobbler-web on my old server,
 and can access cobbler-web from my laptop.

 I have 3 queries about the installation.

 1. Is there any advantage is using the 64-bit CentOS
 rather than 32-bit?

If it runs 64 bit, you should use 64 bit. Unless you also have half the
cylinders on your car disabled, and g

 2. The CentOS OS seems to be available in 7 or 8 CDs.
 (I tried downloading the DVD ISO with ktorrent,
 but this was a complete failure.
 It started OK, but then created literally thousands of links
 to one file, which brought my server down,
 and left it in a state which was quite hard to clean up.)

Dunno. Last time I brought down the DVD iso, I had no trouble just doing a
straight d/l, no torrent.

snip cobbler question

 3. Is there actually a way of converting the 7 or 8 CD ISOs
 into a DVD ISO?
 I saw instructions that suggested concatenating them,
 and then running rsync against a DVD ISO, at
 http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/2011-January/104448.html.
 I tried the site recommended, but could not access the DVD ISO.

Mount the CD isos using loopback (mount -o loop), and copy.
snip
 mark

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Re: [CentOS] cobbler installation of CentOS-5.5

2011-03-28 Thread Les Mikesell
On 3/28/2011 9:49 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
 I'm trying to install CentOS-5.5 on my new HP micro-server,
 which has no CD drive.

 I've set up cobbler and cobbler-web on my old server,
 and can access cobbler-web from my laptop.

 I have 3 queries about the installation.

 1. Is there any advantage is using the 64-bit CentOS
 rather than 32-bit?

 2. The CentOS OS seems to be available in 7 or 8 CDs.
 (I tried downloading the DVD ISO with ktorrent,
 but this was a complete failure.
 It started OK, but then created literally thousands of links
 to one file, which brought my server down,
 and left it in a state which was quite hard to clean up.)

 But how exactly do I cobbler import these?
 I see that for Fedora on my laptop I ran
  sudo cobbler import --path=/mnt/dvd --name=F14-i386

 3. Is there actually a way of converting the 7 or 8 CD ISOs
 into a DVD ISO?

Cobbler is kind of overkill for a single install. If you can drop the CD 
iso images under an NFS export, boot from USB and do an nfs install 
you'll be done before you'd have cobbler set up.

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Re: [CentOS] cobbler installation of CentOS-5.5

2011-03-28 Thread David Sommerseth
On 28/03/11 16:49, Timothy Murphy wrote:
 I'm trying to install CentOS-5.5 on my new HP micro-server,
 which has no CD drive.
 
 I've set up cobbler and cobbler-web on my old server,
 and can access cobbler-web from my laptop.
 
 I have 3 queries about the installation.
 
 1. Is there any advantage is using the 64-bit CentOS
 rather than 32-bit?

Yes, there are advantages to use 64-bit instead of 32-bit.  But it also
depends on how much memory you have.  If you have more that 4GB RAM, you
should really not depend on 32-bit at all.  This is a hardware limit on the
CPU level.  However, Intel did enable some hacks to make it possible to use
more than 4GB RAM on the IA32 based CPUs.  Those are mostly known as PAE
enabled kernels.  But few kernel developer really likes PAE.

Another limitation is that 32-bit applications have limited memory
available compared to a 64-bit application.  PAE might even slow down the
kernel.

Don't go PAE if you can go 64-bit.  There are really no good reasons why
not to use 64-bit today.  There are quite few software packages which is
not ready for 64 bit nowadays, and those should rather be fixed than to
keep users back on 32 bit.

If you for some reason need to run 32-bit user stack, it is even possible
to install and a 64 bit kernel on a 100% 32-bit user space.  And a running
32-bit applications in a 64-bit setup is possible, as long as you have the
32-bit glibc and other needed support libraries installed.  However, 32-bit
applications have the same memory limitation when running.

For some brief PAE discussion, see here:
http://www.held.org.il/blog/2008/07/pae-whats-that-and-how-bad-for-performance/
http://kerneltrap.org/node/3816
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/32-bit-os-and-4gb-memory-limit-707762/

Having all this said, RHEL supports up to 16GB with PAE on 32bit, thus
CentOS will do the same.  However, if can avoid it and install 64-bit, I
recommend you to do that instead.  PAE is really dying, and you'll likely
have more issues with PAE than 64-bit in the long run.


kind regards,

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Re: [CentOS] cobbler installation of CentOS-5.5

2011-03-28 Thread Rainer Duffner

Am 28.03.2011 um 16:49 schrieb Timothy Murphy:

 I'm trying to install CentOS-5.5 on my new HP micro-server,
 which has no CD drive.

 I've set up cobbler and cobbler-web on my old server,
 and can access cobbler-web from my laptop.

 I have 3 queries about the installation.

 1. Is there any advantage is using the 64-bit CentOS
 rather than 32-bit?



I'd use 32bit if you are sure you are never going to use more than 2GB  
RAM.
Ever.


 2. The CentOS OS seems to be available in 7 or 8 CDs.
 (I tried downloading the DVD ISO with ktorrent,
 but this was a complete failure.


I don't know what you did, but when I downloaded  the torrent, it  
created only a handful of files.
The DVD ISOs are available on my local mirror, so they should be  
elsewhere, too.


 It started OK, but then created literally thousands of links
 to one file, which brought my server down,
 and left it in a state which was quite hard to clean up.)

 But how exactly do I cobbler import these?
 I see that for Fedora on my laptop I ran
sudo cobbler import --path=/mnt/dvd --name=F14-i386


Download the DVDs and import them.






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Re: [CentOS] cobbler installation of CentOS-5.5

2011-03-28 Thread Timothy Murphy
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

 2. The CentOS OS seems to be available in 7 or 8 CDs.
 (I tried downloading the DVD ISO with ktorrent,
 but this was a complete failure.
 It started OK, but then created literally thousands of links
 to one file, which brought my server down,
 and left it in a state which was quite hard to clean up.)
 
 Dunno. Last time I brought down the DVD iso, I had no trouble just doing a
 straight d/l, no torrent.

Where did you find the DVD ISO?
When I follow the download instructions at http://www.centos.org/
I am only offered local, ie west european, mirrors,
and none of those I looked at had the DVD ISO;
all of them just had 8 CD ISOs.

 Mount the CD isos using loopback (mount -o loop), and copy.
 snip

I didn't follow this.
Do you mean mount each of the 8 CDs using loopback?
And what exactly am I meant to copy?

I need to indicate where cobbler import should look, I assume.


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Re: [CentOS] cobbler installation of CentOS-5.5

2011-03-28 Thread Timothy Murphy
Ray Van Dolson wrote:

 Why not use the netinstall ISO rather than download everything?

How exactly do I do this?
I guess I could install it on a USB stick,
and boot that on my new server.
Is that what you mean?
(There is no CD drive on the server.)

I can actually run Fedora-14 from a USB stick on the new machine,
and have used that to partition the disk.



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Re: [CentOS] cobbler installation of CentOS-5.5

2011-03-28 Thread Rainer Duffner


Am 28.03.2011 um 17:37 schrieb Timothy Murphy:


m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:


2. The CentOS OS seems to be available in 7 or 8 CDs.
(I tried downloading the DVD ISO with ktorrent,
but this was a complete failure.
It started OK, but then created literally thousands of links
to one file, which brought my server down,
and left it in a state which was quite hard to clean up.)


Dunno. Last time I brought down the DVD iso, I had no trouble just  
doing a

straight d/l, no torrent.


Where did you find the DVD ISO?



Here, e.g.:
http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/centos/5/isos/x86_64/



I need to indicate where cobbler import should look, I assume.





Normally, you loopback-mount the DVDs at /mnt/bla
and then you point cobbler at /mnt/bla

But, with the 5.5 release consisting of two DVDs, I'm no longer 100%  
sure how I imported them.

Best ask on the cobbler-ML...


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Re: [CentOS] cobbler installation of CentOS-5.5

2011-03-28 Thread Timothy Murphy
Les Mikesell wrote:

 Cobbler is kind of overkill for a single install. If you can drop the CD
 iso images under an NFS export, boot from USB and do an nfs install
 you'll be done before you'd have cobbler set up.

I'm not sure what you mean by drop the CD iso images under NFS.

In any case, I'd prefer to use cobbler, as it seems the simplest way to go,
once it is set up,
and I'm thinking of installing CentOS-6 later, when it arrives.

So I'll repeat my query, which as far as I can see no-one has answered:
how do I use cobbler with 8 CD ISOs?
To be specific, what exactly do I cobbler import?

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Re: [CentOS] cobbler installation of CentOS-5.5

2011-03-28 Thread Rainer Duffner

Am 28.03.2011 um 17:45 schrieb Timothy Murphy:


 So I'll repeat my query, which as far as I can see no-one has  
 answered:
 how do I use cobbler with 8 CD ISOs?
 To be specific, what exactly do I cobbler import?


You don't.
You import the DVD(s).



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Re: [CentOS] cobbler installation of CentOS-5.5

2011-03-28 Thread Les Mikesell
On 3/28/2011 10:41 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
 Ray Van Dolson wrote:

 Why not use the netinstall ISO rather than download everything?

 How exactly do I do this?
 I guess I could install it on a USB stick,
 and boot that on my new server.
 Is that what you mean?
 (There is no CD drive on the server.)

Yes, there should be a small boot image along with the isos that you can 
boot from usb or pxe, then you pick the nfs install method and put in 
the path to the directory where you downloaded the CD iso images.  There 
are other network install options, but nfs is quick and easy if you've 
already downloaded the iso images.

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Re: [CentOS] cobbler installation of CentOS-5.5

2011-03-28 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 10:59:23AM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
 On 3/28/2011 10:41 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
  Ray Van Dolson wrote:
 
  Why not use the netinstall ISO rather than download everything?
 
  How exactly do I do this?
  I guess I could install it on a USB stick,
  and boot that on my new server.
  Is that what you mean?
  (There is no CD drive on the server.)
 
 Yes, there should be a small boot image along with the isos that you can 
 boot from usb or pxe, then you pick the nfs install method and put in 
 the path to the directory where you downloaded the CD iso images.  There 
 are other network install options, but nfs is quick and easy if you've 
 already downloaded the iso images.

Yep, or point to an internet-sourced HTTP address and let the install
run overnight if you've got a slow connection...

One _real_ quick way to join all your CD ISO's together is to use
fuse-unionfs on an existing Linux box.  Tell it to union each of your
loopback mounted ISO mountpoints into a new mountpoint, then export
that via NFS to your installation client (or via HTTP).

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Re: [CentOS] cobbler installation of CentOS-5.5

2011-03-28 Thread Les Mikesell
On 3/28/2011 10:45 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
 Les Mikesell wrote:

 Cobbler is kind of overkill for a single install. If you can drop the CD
 iso images under an NFS export, boot from USB and do an nfs install
 you'll be done before you'd have cobbler set up.

 I'm not sure what you mean by drop the CD iso images under NFS.

I mean download directly into a directory already exported in NFS.  Or 
if they aren't already there, either export the path where they are or 
copy them to one that is nfs-exported.  If you have a linux box and 
aren't using nfs, that means put the directory (or something above the 
one containing the files in /etc/exports and 'exportfs -a' or 'service 
nfs restart'.

 In any case, I'd prefer to use cobbler, as it seems the simplest way to go,
 once it is set up,
 and I'm thinking of installing CentOS-6 later, when it arrives.

I can't think of anything much simpler than downloading to a directory 
and being basically done.  Normally on a server with a CD drive I'd burn 
the 1st CD to boot, but there is a small boot image that you can put on 
USB to boot into the installer.  The nfs install will as for the server 
(dns name or IP) and the path which will be what you exported or the 
path to a subdirectory below where the iso files are.  CentOS-6 will 
probably install the same way.  The installer knows how to deal with the 
separate CD iso images directly.  I think you have to make an extra link 
somewhere if you try to install from a dvd image over nfs.

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Re: [CentOS] cobbler installation of CentOS-5.5

2011-03-28 Thread David Brian Chait
Sometimes the path of least resistance is best, spend $40 on a USB DVD and call 
it a day.
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Re: [CentOS] cobbler installation of CentOS-5.5

2011-03-28 Thread Les Mikesell
On 3/28/2011 11:13 AM, Ray Van Dolson wrote:

 One _real_ quick way to join all your CD ISO's together is to use
 fuse-unionfs on an existing Linux box.  Tell it to union each of your
 loopback mounted ISO mountpoints into a new mountpoint, then export
 that via NFS to your installation client (or via HTTP).

You don't need to do that.  The nfs installer is perfectly happy with a 
directory containing the CD iso images and it does whatever loopback 
mount magic it needs for you.

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Re: [CentOS] cobbler installation of CentOS-5.5

2011-03-28 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:23:49AM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
 On 3/28/2011 11:13 AM, Ray Van Dolson wrote:
 
  One _real_ quick way to join all your CD ISO's together is to use
  fuse-unionfs on an existing Linux box.  Tell it to union each of your
  loopback mounted ISO mountpoints into a new mountpoint, then export
  that via NFS to your installation client (or via HTTP).
 
 You don't need to do that.  The nfs installer is perfectly happy with a 
 directory containing the CD iso images and it does whatever loopback 
 mount magic it needs for you.
 

Had never tried that.  Good to know.

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Re: [CentOS] cobbler installation of CentOS-5.5

2011-03-28 Thread Nataraj
On 03/28/2011 08:45 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
 Les Mikesell wrote:

 Cobbler is kind of overkill for a single install. If you can drop the CD
 iso images under an NFS export, boot from USB and do an nfs install
 you'll be done before you'd have cobbler set up.
 I'm not sure what you mean by drop the CD iso images under NFS.

 In any case, I'd prefer to use cobbler, as it seems the simplest way to go,
 once it is set up,
 and I'm thinking of installing CentOS-6 later, when it arrives.

 So I'll repeat my query, which as far as I can see no-one has answered:
 how do I use cobbler with 8 CD ISOs?
 To be specific, what exactly do I cobbler import?

Cobbler is rather complex to setup.  If you want to pxeboot, you can
still do this much faster by setting up a tftp server, a dhcp server and
exporting the install tree  via NFS or HTTP. I simply loop mount the ISO
image and export the mounted DVD via NFS.   I use something similar to
what is described
herehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallMultiDistro

In your case, I think I would just follow Les Mikesell's advice and do
an NFS install.  This is described in the Redhat installation guide. 
See the sections on Preparing for an NFS install, Selecting an
installation Method, and Installing via NFS.  Alternatively you can
use HTTP instead of NFS.

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Re: [CentOS] cobbler installation of CentOS-5.5

2011-03-28 Thread David Brian Chait
 Cobbler is rather complex to setup.  If you want to pxeboot, you can still do 
 this much faster by setting up a tftp server, a dhcp server and exporting the 
 install tree  via NFS or HTTP. I simply loop mount the ISO image and export 
 the mounted DVD via NFS.   I use something similar to
  what is described here 
 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallMultiDistro

The machine is a glorified netbook, I just can't see why someone would go 
through THAT much trouble to get it up and running. Like I said before, just 
buy a USB DVD, and save yourself a lot of grief :P
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Re: [CentOS] cobbler installation of CentOS-5.5

2011-03-28 Thread Les Mikesell
On 3/28/2011 11:28 AM, Nataraj wrote:

 Cobbler is rather complex to setup. If you want to pxeboot, you can
 still do this much faster by setting up a tftp server, a dhcp server and
 exporting the install tree via NFS or HTTP. I simply loop mount the ISO
 image and export the mounted DVD via NFS. I use something similar to
 what is described
 herehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallMultiDistro

 In your case, I think I would just follow Les Mikesell's advice and do
 an NFS install. This is described in the Redhat installation guide. See
 the sections on Preparing for an NFS install, Selecting an
 installation Method, and Installing via NFS. Alternatively you can
 use HTTP instead of NFS.

An nfs install works just by pointing to a directory containing the 
downloaded CD isos.  For http you'd have to loopback-mount or copy the 
files out on the server side.

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Re: [CentOS] cobbler installation of CentOS-5.5

2011-03-28 Thread m . roth
Timothy Murphy wrote:
 m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:

 2. The CentOS OS seems to be available in 7 or 8 CDs.
 (I tried downloading the DVD ISO with ktorrent,
 but this was a complete failure.
 It started OK, but then created literally thousands of links
 to one file, which brought my server down,
 and left it in a state which was quite hard to clean up.)

 Dunno. Last time I brought down the DVD iso, I had no trouble just doing
 a straight d/l, no torrent.

 Where did you find the DVD ISO?
 When I follow the download instructions at http://www.centos.org/
 I am only offered local, ie west european, mirrors,
 and none of those I looked at had the DVD ISO;
 all of them just had 8 CD ISOs.

Ok, I had to search a little, and I am in the US, but I went to the mirror
list, and picked from there. A few judicious checks - edu, rackspace, but
then I saw supercomputer center, and found a 2-part DVD iso at
http://mirrors.arsc.edu/centos/5/isos/x86_64/

 Mount the CD isos using loopback (mount -o loop), and copy.
 snip

 I didn't follow this.
 Do you mean mount each of the 8 CDs using loopback?
 And what exactly am I meant to copy?

d/l the .iso's, mkdir /mnt/disk1 /mnt/disk2/...
mount -o loop /whereeverIdl/centos_cd_disk1.iso /mnt/disk1
etc.
mkdir /mnt/centos_dvd
cp -p /mnt/disk1/* /mnt/disk2/*... /mnt/centos_dvd/

I mean, I'm not thinking about this a lot, but if that doesn't work, you
could copy the rpms into the directory, or you could try
cp -p /mnt/disk1/ /mnt/disk2/... /mnt/centos_dvd/
which would give you disk1... under /mnt/centos_dvd, and burn that onto
one or two dvds.

 I need to indicate where cobbler import should look, I assume.

Worked *some* with Spacewalk, not really at all with cobbler, so I can't
answer that.

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Re: [CentOS] cobbler installation of CentOS-5.5

2011-03-28 Thread m . roth
Ray Van Dolson wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 11:23:49AM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote:
 On 3/28/2011 11:13 AM, Ray Van Dolson wrote:
 
  One _real_ quick way to join all your CD ISO's together is to use
  fuse-unionfs on an existing Linux box.  Tell it to union each of your
  loopback mounted ISO mountpoints into a new mountpoint, then export
  that via NFS to your installation client (or via HTTP).

 You don't need to do that.  The nfs installer is perfectly happy with a
 directory containing the CD iso images and it does whatever loopback
 mount magic it needs for you.

So is local install: it will ask where for the directory where the images
are stored, if you tell it to install from the hd. Does it for my USB key
install that I posted last year.

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Re: [CentOS] cobbler installation of CentOS-5.5

2011-03-28 Thread Robert Heller
At Mon, 28 Mar 2011 16:37:33 +0100 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org 
wrote:

 
 m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
 
  2. The CentOS OS seems to be available in 7 or 8 CDs.
  (I tried downloading the DVD ISO with ktorrent,
  but this was a complete failure.
  It started OK, but then created literally thousands of links
  to one file, which brought my server down,
  and left it in a state which was quite hard to clean up.)
  
  Dunno. Last time I brought down the DVD iso, I had no trouble just doing a
  straight d/l, no torrent.
 
 Where did you find the DVD ISO?
 When I follow the download instructions at http://www.centos.org/
 I am only offered local, ie west european, mirrors,
 and none of those I looked at had the DVD ISO;
 all of them just had 8 CD ISOs.
 
  Mount the CD isos using loopback (mount -o loop), and copy.
  snip
 
 I didn't follow this.
 Do you mean mount each of the 8 CDs using loopback?

Yes.

 And what exactly am I meant to copy?

The entire first CD, preserving the directory structure, then copy the
contents of the CentOS subdir of the rest of the CDs to the CentOS
subdir of the copy.  WARNING: for x86_64 system, the resultant directory
is too big to fit on a standard 4700MB DVD-R -- you will have to 'skip'
some files.  The CentOS 5.x x86_64 distro is on 2 DVDs.  Just about
everything is on the first and the second contains about 400MB worth of
openoffice.org langpack files.  You probably don't need these (unless
you plan on writing documents in many, many, many different languages.

 
 I need to indicate where cobbler import should look, I assume.
 
 

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Re: [CentOS] cobbler installation of CentOS-5.5

2011-03-28 Thread Robert Heller
At Mon, 28 Mar 2011 16:41:23 +0100 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org 
wrote:

 
 Ray Van Dolson wrote:
 
  Why not use the netinstall ISO rather than download everything?
 
 How exactly do I do this?
 I guess I could install it on a USB stick,
 and boot that on my new server.

Actually, since you have already downloaded the 7 or 8 CDs, everything
you need is on the first CD (it actually contains a copy of netinstall
ISO).  Look in the images folder and read the README there.  There is a
disk image that can be copied to USB stick. Presumably you have some
other Linux machine on your LAN that can act as a NFS server -- in
which case you just need to put the CD ISOs in some directory and
export it read-only, after making sure NFSD is enabled and running
(portmap, mountd, nftd, lockd, etc.).  Otherwise, the installer can
just ftp the rpms one by one off the internet as it goes through the
install.

 Is that what you mean?
 (There is no CD drive on the server.)
 
 I can actually run Fedora-14 from a USB stick on the new machine,
 and have used that to partition the disk.
 
 
 

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Re: [CentOS] cobbler installation of CentOS-5.5

2011-03-28 Thread Markus Falb
On 28.3.2011 17:36, Rainer Duffner wrote:
 
 Am 28.03.2011 um 16:49 schrieb Timothy Murphy:
 
 But how exactly do I cobbler import these?
 I see that for Fedora on my laptop I ran
sudo cobbler import --path=/mnt/dvd --name=F14-i386
 
 
 Download the DVDs and import them.

Or import over the net. cobbler import speaks rsync.

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Re: [CentOS] cobbler installation of CentOS-5.5

2011-03-28 Thread Timothy Murphy
Rainer Duffner wrote:

 The DVD ISOs are available on my local mirror, so they should be
 elsewhere, too.

Where is your local mirror?
As I said, I couldn't see them on any of the mirrors offered to me.

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Re: [CentOS] cobbler installation of CentOS-5.5

2011-03-28 Thread Ryan Wagoner
On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net wrote:
 Rainer Duffner wrote:

 The DVD ISOs are available on my local mirror, so they should be
 elsewhere, too.

 Where is your local mirror?
 As I said, I couldn't see them on any of the mirrors offered to me.

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kernel.org has the ISOs.

http://mirrors.kernel.org/centos/5.5/isos/x86_64/

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Re: [CentOS] cobbler installation of CentOS-5.5

2011-03-28 Thread Mark Tomandl

Timothy Murphy wrote:

Rainer Duffner wrote:

  

The DVD ISOs are available on my local mirror, so they should be
elsewhere, too.



Where is your local mirror?
As I said, I couldn't see them on any of the mirrors offered to me.

  


The kernel.org mirror system has servers in the EU and has the DVDs. 
From the link below choose your architecture, download and verify the 
iso files, and you should be good to go.

http://mirrors.eu.kernel.org/centos/5/isos/
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Re: [CentOS] cobbler installation of CentOS-5.5

2011-03-28 Thread Timothy Murphy
Mark Tomandl wrote:

 Where is your local mirror?
 As I said, I couldn't see them on any of the mirrors offered to me.

 The kernel.org mirror system has servers in the EU and has the DVDs.
  From the link below choose your architecture, download and verify the
 iso files, and you should be good to go.
 http://mirrors.eu.kernel.org/centos/5/isos/

Thank you.
I am downloading it now.

However, when I go to www.centos.org and click on 
Downloads=Mirrors=CentOS-5 ISOs=x86_64 
I am offered 19 mirrors.
I haven't tried them all, but I've tried those in the UK and some others
(8 in all) and none of them have the DVD ISOs.


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Re: [CentOS] cobbler installation of CentOS-5.5

2011-03-28 Thread Phil Schaffner
Timothy Murphy wrote on 03/28/2011 07:24 PM:
 However, when I go towww.centos.org  and click on
 Downloads=Mirrors=CentOS-5 ISOs=x86_64

Go to

Downloads / Mirrors / Mirror List

And look at the column headed Direct DVD Downloads.

Phil

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