Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-07-22 Thread Matt
And be careful to leave boot partition on ext3. Why is that? Also, does the 5.6 install dvd offer ext4 in the graphical install? Last time I do not think I saw it. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-07-22 Thread Alexander Dalloz
Am 23.07.2011 00:16, schrieb Matt: And be careful to leave boot partition on ext3. Why is that? Also, does the 5.6 install dvd offer ext4 in the graphical install? Last time I do not think I saw it. grub shipping with 5.6 can not boot from ext4 formatted partitions.

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-07-17 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 6:17 AM, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: On 07/05/11 9:04 PM, Charles Polisher wrote: The PostgreSQL wiki seems to say that database tables are allocated in 1GB extents. In workloads with which I am familiar, with an RDBMS the extents don't bounce around all

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-07-17 Thread Ljubomir Ljubojevic
Rudi Ahlers wrote: Hi Everyone, I just tried to install EXT4 onto a CentOS 5 machine but it failed. Does anyone know in which repository it is? root@usaxen01:[~]$ cat /etc/redhat-release CentOS release 5 (Final) root@usaxen01:[~]$ uname -a Linux usaxen01 2.6.18-8.1.15.el5xen #1 SMP

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-07-05 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 3:05 AM, Charles Polisher cpol...@surewest.netwrote: If you're running a database on it, you might re-think using a journaled filesystem. For that, ext2 will be faster and much less prone to unrecoverable data loss. Did you mean EXT4, or in actual fact EXT2? I thought

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-07-05 Thread James Hogarth
If you're running a database on it, you might re-think using a journaled filesystem. For that, ext2 will be faster and much less prone to unrecoverable data loss. Did you mean EXT4, or in actual fact EXT2? I thought EXT4 was faster than EXT2? The optimum on an EXT basis for a filesystem

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-07-05 Thread Christopher Chan
On Tuesday, July 05, 2011 07:28 PM, James Hogarth wrote: If you're running a database on it, you might re-think using a journaled filesystem. For that, ext2 will be faster and much less prone to unrecoverable data loss. Did you mean EXT4, or in actual fact EXT2? I thought EXT4 was faster

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-07-05 Thread Les Mikesell
On 7/5/11 6:28 AM, James Hogarth wrote: If you're running a database on it, you might re-think using a journaled filesystem. For that, ext2 will be faster and much less prone to unrecoverable data loss. Did you mean EXT4, or in actual fact EXT2? I thought EXT4 was faster than EXT2? The

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-07-05 Thread Charles Polisher
Christopher Chan wrote: James Hogarth wrote: If you're running a database on it, you might re-think using a journaled filesystem. For that, ext2 will be faster and much less prone to unrecoverable data loss. Did you mean EXT4, or in actual fact EXT2? I thought EXT4 was faster than

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-07-05 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Charles Polisher cpol...@surewest.netwrote: (I'm sharpening my axe for the Use ZFS, it's bulletproof discussion.) -- Charles Polisher ___ HAHA, what's your take on ZFS then? We've been running ZFS on a few

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-07-05 Thread Christopher Chan
On Tuesday, July 05, 2011 10:26 PM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: (I'm sharpening my axe for the Use ZFS, it's bulletproof discussion.) /me puts on asbestos suit...stares...switches to asbestos armor instead. HAHA, what's your take on ZFS then? We've been running ZFS on a few storage servers,

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-07-05 Thread John R Pierce
On 07/05/11 7:10 AM, Charles Polisher wrote: In general and with some simplifiying assumptions, a database consists of statically pre-allocated files. The process of extending the files happens at birth. The relative speed over the lifetime of the database is dominated by raw I/O, not by

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-07-05 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Christopher Chan christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk wrote: We've been running ZFS on a few storage servers, both in the office and for our hosting clients for about 2 years now and all I can say it that it's rock solid. +1 Although I have seen screams from

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-07-05 Thread Les Mikesell
On 7/5/2011 1:06 PM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: /me wonders what an md raid array with an ext3 fs that has its journal on an ssd in full data journal mode give in terms of performance. I honestly haven't tried this yet, probably cause when I looked at how this works, it's only the journal which runs

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-07-05 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: How much can that matter?  Reads are going to be cached in main RAM anyway - which is pretty cheap these days. --    Les Mikesell     lesmikes...@gmail.com ___ Yes, but

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-07-05 Thread Les Mikesell
On 7/5/2011 1:30 PM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Les Mikeselllesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: How much can that matter? Reads are going to be cached in main RAM anyway - which is pretty cheap these days. Yes, but I suppose it all depends on the needs of the server in

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-07-05 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: On 7/5/2011 1:30 PM, Rudi Ahlers wrote: On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Les Mikeselllesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: How much can that matter? Reads are going to be cached in main RAM anyway - which is pretty cheap

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-07-05 Thread Charles Polisher
On 07/05/11 7:10 AM, Charles Polisher wrote: In general and with some simplifiying assumptions, a database consists of statically pre-allocated files. The process of extending the files happens at birth. The relative speed over the lifetime of the database is dominated by raw I/O, not by

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-07-05 Thread John R Pierce
On 07/05/11 9:04 PM, Charles Polisher wrote: The PostgreSQL wiki seems to say that database tables are allocated in 1GB extents. In workloads with which I am familiar, with an RDBMS the extents don't bounce around all that much, i.e. the vast majority of writes do not result in a change to

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-07-04 Thread Charles Polisher
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 01:04:34PM -0700, PJ wrote: On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Marian Marinov m...@yuhu.biz wrote: On Thursday 23 June 2011 22:41:50 PJ wrote: On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 12:31 PM, PJ pauljer...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Marian Marinov

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-06-24 Thread Alain Péan
Le 24/06/2011 03:44, Marian Marinov a écrit : On Friday 24 June 2011 04:34:20 Smithies, Russell wrote: We have a single 27TB partition (35 x 1TB drives as RAID5+0 in an HP MDS600), just formatted it xfs and had no problems with it so far. It's used as scratch space so not too concerned about

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-06-24 Thread Lucian
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Alain Péan alain.p...@lpp.polytechnique.fr wrote: Le 24/06/2011 03:44, Marian Marinov a écrit : On Friday 24 June 2011 04:34:20 Smithies, Russell wrote: We have a single 27TB partition (35 x 1TB drives as RAID5+0 in an HP MDS600), just formatted it xfs and had

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-06-24 Thread Ross Walker
On Jun 23, 2011, at 9:44 PM, Marian Marinov m...@yuhu.biz wrote: On Friday 24 June 2011 04:34:20 Smithies, Russell wrote: We have a single 27TB partition (35 x 1TB drives as RAID5+0 in an HP MDS600), just formatted it xfs and had no problems with it so far. It's used as scratch space so not

[CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-06-23 Thread PJ
I'm sure many are running ext4 FS's in production, but just want to be re-assured that there are not currently any major issues before starting a new project that looks like it will be using ext4. I've previously been using xfs but the software for this project requires ext3/ext4. I'm always

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-06-23 Thread Marian Marinov
On Thursday 23 June 2011 19:16:37 PJ wrote: I'm sure many are running ext4 FS's in production, but just want to be re-assured that there are not currently any major issues before starting a new project that looks like it will be using ext4. I've previously been using xfs but the software for

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-06-23 Thread nux
PJ writes: I'm sure many are running ext4 FS's in production, but just want to be re-assured that there are not currently any major issues before starting a new project that looks like it will be using ext4. I've previously been using xfs but the software for this project requires

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-06-23 Thread Geoff Galitz
Just another happy camper here. We have ext4 for some high-volume servers and have experienced no operational problems. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-06-23 Thread PJ
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Marian Marinov m...@yuhu.biz wrote: On Thursday 23 June 2011 19:16:37 PJ wrote: I'm sure many are running ext4 FS's in production, but just want to be re-assured that there are not currently any major issues before starting a new project that looks like it will

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-06-23 Thread PJ
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 12:31 PM, PJ pauljer...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Marian Marinov m...@yuhu.biz wrote: On Thursday 23 June 2011 19:16:37 PJ wrote: I'm sure many are running ext4 FS's in production, but just want to be re-assured that there are not currently any

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-06-23 Thread Marian Marinov
On Thursday 23 June 2011 22:31:28 PJ wrote: On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Marian Marinov m...@yuhu.biz wrote: On Thursday 23 June 2011 19:16:37 PJ wrote: I'm sure many are running ext4 FS's in production, but just want to be re-assured that there are not currently any major issues before

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-06-23 Thread Marian Marinov
On Thursday 23 June 2011 22:41:50 PJ wrote: On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 12:31 PM, PJ pauljer...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Marian Marinov m...@yuhu.biz wrote: On Thursday 23 June 2011 19:16:37 PJ wrote: I'm sure many are running ext4 FS's in production, but just want to

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-06-23 Thread PJ
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Marian Marinov m...@yuhu.biz wrote: On Thursday 23 June 2011 22:41:50 PJ wrote: On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 12:31 PM, PJ pauljer...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Marian Marinov m...@yuhu.biz wrote: On Thursday 23 June 2011 19:16:37 PJ wrote:

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-06-23 Thread James Chamberlain
On Jun 23, 2011, at 12:16 PM, PJ wrote: I'm sure many are running ext4 FS's in production, but just want to be re-assured that there are not currently any major issues before starting a new project that looks like it will be using ext4. I've previously been using xfs but the software for

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-06-23 Thread Thomas Harold
On 6/23/2011 12:16 PM, PJ wrote: I'm sure many are running ext4 FS's in production, but just want to be re-assured that there are not currently any major issues before starting a new project that looks like it will be using ext4. I've previously been using xfs but the software for this

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-06-23 Thread Smithies, Russell
...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Marian Marinov Sent: Friday, 24 June 2011 7:48 a.m. To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6? On Thursday 23 June 2011 22:31:28 PJ wrote: On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Marian Marinov m...@yuhu.biz wrote: On Thursday 23 June 2011 19:16

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-06-23 Thread Marian Marinov
On Friday 24 June 2011 04:34:20 Smithies, Russell wrote: We have a single 27TB partition (35 x 1TB drives as RAID5+0 in an HP MDS600), just formatted it xfs and had no problems with it so far. It's used as scratch space so not too concerned about performance. --Russell I have compared the

Re: [CentOS] ext4 in CentOS 5.6?

2011-06-23 Thread Les Mikesell
On 6/23/11 8:44 PM, Marian Marinov wrote: I have compared the performance of both XFS and Ext4. And since I use those big machines for backups, for me the write performance was very important. XFS was almost twice slower. Twice slower? At what kind of operations? I don't think any filesystem