Re: [CentOS] ssacli start rebuild?

2020-11-14 Thread hw
On Sat, 2020-11-14 at 14:37 -0700, Warren Young wrote: > On Nov 14, 2020, at 5:56 AM, hw wrote: > > On Wed, 2020-11-11 at 16:38 -0700, Warren Young wrote: > > > On Nov 11, 2020, at 2:01 PM, hw wrote: > > > > I have yet to see software RAID that doesn't kill the performance. > > > > > > When was

Re: [CentOS] ssacli start rebuild?

2020-11-14 Thread Valeri Galtsev
> On Nov 14, 2020, at 8:45 PM, hw wrote: > > On Sat, 2020-11-14 at 18:55 +0100, Simon Matter wrote: >>> On Wed, 2020-11-11 at 16:38 -0700, Warren Young wrote: On Nov 11, 2020, at 2:01 PM, hw wrote: > I have yet to see software RAID that doesn't kill the performance. When

Re: [CentOS] ssacli start rebuild?

2020-11-14 Thread John Pierce
On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 6:32 PM hw wrote: > > I don't like the idea of flashing one. I don't have the firmware and I > don't > know if they can be flashed with Linux. Aren't there any good --- and cost > efficient --- ones that do JBOD by default, preferably including 16-port > cards > with

Re: [CentOS] ssacli start rebuild?

2020-11-14 Thread hw
On Sat, 2020-11-14 at 18:55 +0100, Simon Matter wrote: > > On Wed, 2020-11-11 at 16:38 -0700, Warren Young wrote: > > > On Nov 11, 2020, at 2:01 PM, hw wrote: > > > > I have yet to see software RAID that doesn't kill the performance. > > > > > > When was the last time you tried it? > > > > I'm

Re: [CentOS] ssacli start rebuild?

2020-11-14 Thread hw
On Sat, 2020-11-14 at 07:11 -0800, John Pierce wrote: > On Sat, Nov 14, 2020, 4:57 AM hw wrote: > > > On Wed, 2020-11-11 at 16:38 -0700, Warren Young wrote: > > > > > > And where > > > > do you get cost-efficient cards that can do JBOD? > > > > > > $69, 8 SATA/SAS ports:

Re: [CentOS] ssacli start rebuild?

2020-11-14 Thread Warren Young
On Nov 14, 2020, at 5:56 AM, hw wrote: > > On Wed, 2020-11-11 at 16:38 -0700, Warren Young wrote: >> On Nov 11, 2020, at 2:01 PM, hw wrote: >>> I have yet to see software RAID that doesn't kill the performance. >> >> When was the last time you tried it? > > I'm currently using it, and the

Re: [CentOS] ssacli start rebuild?

2020-11-14 Thread Simon Matter
> On Wed, 2020-11-11 at 16:38 -0700, Warren Young wrote: >> On Nov 11, 2020, at 2:01 PM, hw wrote: >> > I have yet to see software RAID that doesn't kill the performance. >> >> When was the last time you tried it? > > I'm currently using it, and the performance sucks. Perhaps it's > not the

Re: [CentOS] ssacli start rebuild?

2020-11-14 Thread John Pierce
On Sat, Nov 14, 2020, 4:57 AM hw wrote: > On Wed, 2020-11-11 at 16:38 -0700, Warren Young wrote: > > > > And where > > > do you get cost-efficient cards that can do JBOD? > > > > $69, 8 SATA/SAS ports: https://www.newegg.com/p/0ZK-08UH-0GWZ1 > > That says it's for HP. So will you still get

Re: [CentOS] ssacli start rebuild?

2020-11-14 Thread hw
On Wed, 2020-11-11 at 16:38 -0700, Warren Young wrote: > On Nov 11, 2020, at 2:01 PM, hw wrote: > > I have yet to see software RAID that doesn't kill the performance. > > When was the last time you tried it? I'm currently using it, and the performance sucks. Perhaps it's not the software

Re: [CentOS] ssacli start rebuild?

2020-11-11 Thread Simon Matter
> > >> On Nov 11, 2020, at 6:00 PM, John Pierce wrote: >> >> On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 3:38 PM Warren Young wrote: >> >>> On Nov 11, 2020, at 2:01 PM, hw wrote: I have yet to see software RAID that doesn't kill the performance. >>> >>> When was the last time you tried it? >>> >>> Why

Re: [CentOS] ssacli start rebuild?

2020-11-11 Thread Valeri Galtsev
> On Nov 11, 2020, at 8:04 PM, John Pierce wrote: > > in large raids, I label my disks with the last 4 or 6 digits of the drive > serial number (or for SAS disks, the WWN).this is visible via smartctl, > and I record it with the zpool documentation I keep on each server > (typically a text

Re: [CentOS] ssacli start rebuild?

2020-11-11 Thread Valeri Galtsev
> On Nov 11, 2020, at 8:07 PM, John Pierce wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 5:47 PM Valeri Galtsev > wrote: > >> I’m sure you can reflash LSI card to make it SATA or SAS HBA, or MegaRAD >> hardware RAID adapter. Is far as I recollect it is the same electronics >> board. I reflashed a

Re: [CentOS] ssacli start rebuild?

2020-11-11 Thread Warren Young
On Nov 11, 2020, at 7:04 PM, Warren Young wrote: > > zpool mount -d /dev/disk/by-partlabel Oops, I’m mixing the zpool and zfs commands. It’d be “zpool import”. And you do this just once: afterward, the automatic on-boot import brings the drives back in using the names they had before, so

Re: [CentOS] ssacli start rebuild?

2020-11-11 Thread John Pierce
On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 5:47 PM Valeri Galtsev wrote: > I’m sure you can reflash LSI card to make it SATA or SAS HBA, or MegaRAD > hardware RAID adapter. Is far as I recollect it is the same electronics > board. I reflashed a couple of HBAs to make them MegaRAID boards. > you can reflash SOME

Re: [CentOS] ssacli start rebuild?

2020-11-11 Thread John Pierce
in large raids, I label my disks with the last 4 or 6 digits of the drive serial number (or for SAS disks, the WWN).this is visible via smartctl, and I record it with the zpool documentation I keep on each server (typically a text file on a cloud drive). zpools don't actually care WHAT

Re: [CentOS] ssacli start rebuild?

2020-11-11 Thread Warren Young
On Nov 11, 2020, at 6:37 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > how do you map failed software RAID drive to physical port of, say, > SAS-attached enclosure. With ZFS, you set a partition label on the whole-drive partition pool member, then mount the pool with something like “zpool mount -d

Re: [CentOS] ssacli start rebuild?

2020-11-11 Thread Valeri Galtsev
> On Nov 11, 2020, at 5:38 PM, Warren Young wrote: > > On Nov 11, 2020, at 2:01 PM, hw wrote: >> >> I have yet to see software RAID that doesn't kill the performance. > > When was the last time you tried it? > > Why would you expect that a modern 8-core Intel CPU would impede I/O in any >

Re: [CentOS] ssacli start rebuild?

2020-11-11 Thread Valeri Galtsev
> On Nov 11, 2020, at 5:38 PM, Warren Young wrote: > > On Nov 11, 2020, at 2:01 PM, hw wrote: >> >> I have yet to see software RAID that doesn't kill the performance. > > When was the last time you tried it? > > Why would you expect that a modern 8-core Intel CPU would impede I/O in any >

Re: [CentOS] ssacli start rebuild?

2020-11-11 Thread Valeri Galtsev
> On Nov 11, 2020, at 6:00 PM, John Pierce wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 3:38 PM Warren Young wrote: > >> On Nov 11, 2020, at 2:01 PM, hw wrote: >>> >>> I have yet to see software RAID that doesn't kill the performance. >> >> When was the last time you tried it? >> >> Why would you

Re: [CentOS] ssacli start rebuild?

2020-11-11 Thread John Pierce
On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 3:38 PM Warren Young wrote: > On Nov 11, 2020, at 2:01 PM, hw wrote: > > > > I have yet to see software RAID that doesn't kill the performance. > > When was the last time you tried it? > > Why would you expect that a modern 8-core Intel CPU would impede I/O in > any

Re: [CentOS] ssacli start rebuild?

2020-11-11 Thread Warren Young
On Nov 11, 2020, at 2:01 PM, hw wrote: > > I have yet to see software RAID that doesn't kill the performance. When was the last time you tried it? Why would you expect that a modern 8-core Intel CPU would impede I/O in any measureable way as compared to the outdated single-core 32-bit RISC

Re: [CentOS] ssacli start rebuild?

2020-11-11 Thread hw
On Wed, 2020-11-11 at 11:34 +0100, Thomas Bendler wrote: > Am Mi., 11. Nov. 2020 um 07:28 Uhr schrieb hw : > > > [...] > > With this experience, these controllers are now deprecated. RAID > > controllers > > that can't rebuild an array after a disk has failed and has been replaced > > are

Re: [CentOS] ssacli start rebuild?

2020-11-11 Thread Thomas Bendler
Am Mi., 11. Nov. 2020 um 07:28 Uhr schrieb hw : > [...] > With this experience, these controllers are now deprecated. RAID > controllers > that can't rebuild an array after a disk has failed and has been replaced > are virtually useless. > [...] HW RAID is often delivered with quite limited

Re: [CentOS] ssacli start rebuild?

2020-11-10 Thread hw
On Mon, 2020-11-09 at 16:30 +0100, Thomas Bendler wrote: > Am Fr., 6. Nov. 2020 um 20:38 Uhr schrieb hw : > > > [...] > > Some search results indicate that it's possible that other disks in the > > array have read errors and might prevent rebuilding for RAID 5. I don't > > know if there are read

Re: [CentOS] ssacli start rebuild?

2020-11-09 Thread Thomas Bendler
Am Fr., 6. Nov. 2020 um 20:38 Uhr schrieb hw : > [...] > Some search results indicate that it's possible that other disks in the > array have read errors and might prevent rebuilding for RAID 5. I don't > know if there are read errors, and if it's read errors, I think it would > mean that these

Re: [CentOS] ssacli start rebuild?

2020-11-06 Thread hw
On Fri, 2020-11-06 at 12:08 +0100, Thomas Bendler wrote: > Am Fr., 6. Nov. 2020 um 00:52 Uhr schrieb hw : > > > [...] > > logicaldrive 1 (14.55 TB, RAID 1+0, Ready for Rebuild) > > [...] > > Have you checked the rebuild priority: > > ❯ ssacli ctrl slot=0 show config detail | grep "Rebuild

Re: [CentOS] ssacli start rebuild?

2020-11-06 Thread Thomas Bendler
Am Fr., 6. Nov. 2020 um 00:52 Uhr schrieb hw : > [...] > logicaldrive 1 (14.55 TB, RAID 1+0, Ready for Rebuild) > [...] Have you checked the rebuild priority: ❯ ssacli ctrl slot=0 show config detail | grep "Rebuild Priority" ~

[CentOS] ssacli start rebuild?

2020-11-05 Thread hw
Hi, is there a way to rebuild an array using ssacli with a P410? A failed disk has been replaced and now the array is not rebuilding like it should: Array A (SATA, Unused Space: 1 MB) logicaldrive 1 (14.55 TB, RAID 1+0, Ready for Rebuild) physicaldrive 1I:0:1 (port 1I:box