Re: [CentOS] the Postfix packages are way too old

2010-06-22 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Florin Andrei wrote on Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:42:46 -0700: No, that's fine, really. I was just pointing out that, for some Internet-facing systems, this policy may be inadequate, due to the fast-changing nature of the Internet. I disagree. The included Postfix works just fine. You have a very

Re: [CentOS] the Postfix packages are way too old

2010-06-22 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 22/06/2010 11:31, Kai Schaetzl wrote: Florin Andrei wrote on Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:42:46 -0700: No, that's fine, really. I was just pointing out that, for some Internet-facing systems, this policy may be inadequate, due to the fast-changing nature of the Internet. I disagree. The

Re: [CentOS] the Postfix packages are way too old

2010-06-21 Thread Florin Andrei
On 06/18/2010 05:49 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote: On 18/06/2010 22:28, Florin Andrei wrote: Fun fact: Postfix-2.3.3 has been released in August 2006. Think about that. While you are doing that - also think about this : Red Hat have a policy, and they stick with it. Its something that works well

[CentOS] the Postfix packages are way too old

2010-06-18 Thread Florin Andrei
If you deliver more than a few emails to the outside world, especially if a good portion of those go to Yahoo, you may want to read this message: http://marc.info/?l=postfix-usersm=127689518629249w=2 Actually, read the whole thread, it's interesting and the discussion still continues:

Re: [CentOS] the Postfix packages are way too old

2010-06-18 Thread Whit Blauvelt
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 02:28:36PM -0700, Florin Andrei wrote: Fun fact: Postfix-2.3.3 has been released in August 2006. Think about that. To be fair, RH/CentOS also ships with Sendmail-8.13.8, also from August 2006. What a golden month for mail daemons that was. The door's wide open for

Re: [CentOS] the Postfix packages are way too old

2010-06-18 Thread Florin Andrei
On 06/18/2010 03:02 PM, Whit Blauvelt wrote: To be fair, RH/CentOS also ships with Sendmail-8.13.8, also from August 2006. What a golden month for mail daemons that was. lol The door's wide open for someone with the energy to put together a server distro based on CentOS but with modern

Re: [CentOS] the Postfix packages are way too old

2010-06-18 Thread Les Mikesell
On 6/18/2010 5:02 PM, Whit Blauvelt wrote: Fun fact: Postfix-2.3.3 has been released in August 2006. Think about that. To be fair, RH/CentOS also ships with Sendmail-8.13.8, also from August 2006. What a golden month for mail daemons that was. The door's wide open for someone with the

Re: [CentOS] the Postfix packages are way too old

2010-06-18 Thread John R Pierce
Whit Blauvelt wrote: On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 02:28:36PM -0700, Florin Andrei wrote: Fun fact: Postfix-2.3.3 has been released in August 2006. Think about that. To be fair, RH/CentOS also ships with Sendmail-8.13.8, also from August 2006. What a golden month for mail daemons that

Re: [CentOS] the Postfix packages are way too old

2010-06-18 Thread Florin Andrei
On 06/18/2010 03:19 PM, John R Pierce wrote: (reading the EL6 beta 1 release notes) EL6 will be based on 2.6.32, use EXT4 by default, have XFS support (in 64bit builds), Apache 2.2.14, gcc 4.4, samba 3.0, postgres 8.4, mysql 5.1 and Postfix 2.6.5. Not bad. I could live with that. -- Florin

Re: [CentOS] the Postfix packages are way too old

2010-06-18 Thread Stephen Harris
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 06:02:10PM -0400, Whit Blauvelt wrote: The door's wide open for someone with the energy to put together a server distro based on CentOS but with modern versions of essential daemons. Yes, Or wait for RedHat^WCentOS 6, which can't be too far out... RHEL 2.1: Mar 2002

Re: [CentOS] the Postfix packages are way too old

2010-06-18 Thread John R Pierce
Stephen Harris wrote: RHEL 2.1: Mar 2002 (AS), May 2003 (ES) RHEL 3: Oct 2003 RHEL 4: Feb 2005 RHEL 5: Mar 2007 RHEL 6: ??? (previous Beta's have been 5-6 months...) Funky; in June 2006 RHEL claimed they would slow their release schedule to every 2 years (rather than 18 months). Oops!

Re: [CentOS] the Postfix packages are way too old

2010-06-18 Thread Athmane Madjoudj
Is anyone working on this? (No, not Fedora. That's not a server OS.) When i find some package old i just get the SRPM from Fedora and i try to compile it in CentOS (it's very fun!) although CentOS/RHEL packages seems to be old, RH folks back-port security / bugfix patches I use fedora in

Re: [CentOS] the Postfix packages are way too old

2010-06-18 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Fri, 18 Jun 2010, Florin Andrei wrote: On 06/18/2010 03:19 PM, John R Pierce wrote: (reading the EL6 beta 1 release notes) EL6 will be based on 2.6.32, use EXT4 by default, have XFS support (in 64bit builds), Apache 2.2.14, gcc 4.4, samba 3.0, postgres 8.4, mysql 5.1 and Postfix

Re: [CentOS] the Postfix packages are way too old

2010-06-18 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 18/06/2010 22:28, Florin Andrei wrote: Fun fact: Postfix-2.3.3 has been released in August 2006. Think about that. While you are doing that - also think about this : Red Hat have a policy, and they stick with it. Its something that works well for them, the ISVs around the base and its

Re: [CentOS] the Postfix packages are way too old

2010-06-18 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 18/06/2010 23:19, John R Pierce wrote: isn't EL6 coming out soon ? beta 1 released in April, afait ETA on el6 is august'ish this year. but C4 and C5 are still maintained and in mass production *now*. If there is a clearcut problem definition as this postfix issue is, then creating (