Re: [CentOS-docs] Contributing to Wiki

2011-04-04 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/03/2011 02:31 AM, Jim Woods wrote:
 I emailed you sometime last week off-list. I re-read the website
 version 2, next steps thread, tried to write an email in response,
 realized it was terribly too long, and figured I would edit the wiki
 pages or put up a couple of new ones.


The wiki isnt a mailing list, please dont use it to 'communicate' with 
people.

- KB
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[CentOS-docs] Release Notes for CentOS 5.6

2011-04-04 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Hi,

this release has taken quite a long time (probably too long), but it is
nearing it's release (I think I already had this excuse once before).

Which means that it is Release Notes time! And that we're in need of
translators for the Release Notes!

http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOS5.6 is what's there
already, so if you want to translate these pages, go ahead.

If you haven't done any tranastions before (for us that is) and want to
help, make sure that you are on this page:
http://wiki.centos.org/TranslationGroup

To do that, just drop a mail here on the centos-docs mailing list :)

Cheers and thanks in advance,

Ralph 
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Release Notes for CentOS 5.6

2011-04-04 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Ralph Angenendt ra...@centos.org wrote:

 If you haven't done any tranastions before (for us that is) and want to
 help, make sure that you are on this page:
 http://wiki.centos.org/TranslationGroup

Please note that not all translators are listed on that page.

Akemi
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contributing to Wiki

2011-04-04 Thread Jim Woods
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 3:23 AM, Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org wrote:
 The wiki isnt a mailing list, please dont use it to 'communicate' with
 people.

Are you serious?

You're telling me it's not acceptable procedure to create a wiki
page, say WebsiteVer2/WireFrame, where folks can post an image for the
website design, then discuss on the mailing list and point people to
that wiki page to look at?

I should post my existing website content review (not very short) just
to the mailing list? Not as a wiki page where others can edit and
adjust? A living document on the wiki and discussion on the mailing
list, that's unacceptable?

Now, I am going to guess this is a mis-understanding. That you thought
I was just going to post my email verbatim to the wiki. That is not
the case. All I wanted to do was create the starter pages like the
ones I mention above, then post to the mailing list and get the
discussion moving forward. It seemed inefficient to me to try and use
the mailing list for the collaborative work portion and not the wiki.

Thanks,

Jim
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contributing to Wiki

2011-04-04 Thread Alan Bartlett
On 4 April 2011 17:25, Jim Woods redkil...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 3:23 AM, Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org wrote:
 The wiki isnt a mailing list, please dont use it to 'communicate' with
 people.

 Are you serious?

 You're telling me it's not acceptable procedure to create a wiki
 page, say WebsiteVer2/WireFrame, where folks can post an image for the
 website design, then discuss on the mailing list and point people to
 that wiki page to look at?

 I should post my existing website content review (not very short) just
 to the mailing list? Not as a wiki page where others can edit and
 adjust? A living document on the wiki and discussion on the mailing
 list, that's unacceptable?

 Now, I am going to guess this is a mis-understanding. That you thought
 I was just going to post my email verbatim to the wiki. That is not
 the case. All I wanted to do was create the starter pages like the
 ones I mention above, then post to the mailing list and get the
 discussion moving forward. It seemed inefficient to me to try and use
 the mailing list for the collaborative work portion and not the wiki.

Do you have a home page, Jim?

If so, use that. If not, Ralph will create one for you, if asked.

Alan.
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contributing to Wiki

2011-04-04 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/04/2011 05:25 PM, Jim Woods wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 3:23 AM, Karanbir Singhmail-li...@karan.org  wrote:
 The wiki isnt a mailing list, please dont use it to 'communicate' with
 people.
 Are you serious?

Absolutely!

 You're telling me it's not acceptable procedure to create a wiki
 page, say WebsiteVer2/WireFrame, where folks can post an image for the
 website design, then discuss on the mailing list and point people to
 that wiki page to look at?

I can imagine there will be a fair few ideas thrown around, so sticking 
with the list initially would be better. If not, a vcs instance to host 
such would be far better than putting it in the wiki.

 Now, I am going to guess this is a mis-understanding. That you thought
 I was just going to post my email verbatim to the wiki. That is not

That is what it sounded like...

 the case. All I wanted to do was create the starter pages like the
 ones I mention above, then post to the mailing list and get the
 discussion moving forward. It seemed inefficient to me to try and use
 the mailing list for the collaborative work portion and not the wiki.

The 'work part of the website ver2' is meant to take place in a 
development centric tool, like openatrium, rather than overloading what 
is essentially a flat-text target, ie the wiki.

As Alan pointed out, a good place to start might be under your username 
on the wiki.

- KB
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contributing to Wiki

2011-04-04 Thread Jim Woods
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 9:40 AM, Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org wrote:
 The 'work part of the website ver2' is meant to take place in a
 development centric tool, like openatrium, rather than overloading what
 is essentially a flat-text target, ie the wiki.

 As Alan pointed out, a good place to start might be under your username
 on the wiki.


Fair enough. Does the openatrium tool exist yet? Is that something
else that needs to get done before moving forward? I wouldn't have
made the wiki request, or assumed that was the correct place do this
work if I had known there were plans to use another tool.

Ralph, can you create a HomePage for me? I would like to use that to
place a review of the existing web content, and maybe put up a
wireframe to show how the frontpage would look.

Thanks,

Jim
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contributing to Wiki

2011-04-04 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 04/04/2011 06:04 PM, Jim Woods wrote:
 Fair enough. Does the openatrium tool exist yet? Is that something
 else that needs to get done before moving forward? I wouldn't have
 made the wiki request, or assumed that was the correct place do this
 work if I had known there were plans to use another tool.

Yes, its there. But looks to be a bit frozen out at the moment ( 
http://qaweb.dev.centos.org/websitever2/ is where its meant to show up 
); fwiw, its been 'evaluated', quite possible not 'decided' upon. Maybe 
a point for the meeting on Thursday!


 Ralph, can you create a HomePage for me? I would like to use that to
 place a review of the existing web content, and maybe put up a
 wireframe to show how the frontpage would look.

I think he did that already :)

also, it would be awesome if we can get a few options like this for the 
irc meeting on Thursday.

- KB

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contributing to Wiki

2011-04-04 Thread Jim Woods
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org wrote:
 Yes, its there. But looks to be a bit frozen out at the moment (
 http://qaweb.dev.centos.org/websitever2/ is where its meant to show up
 ); fwiw, its been 'evaluated', quite possible not 'decided' upon. Maybe
 a point for the meeting on Thursday!

Absolutely.


 Ralph, can you create a HomePage for me? I would like to use that to
 place a review of the existing web content, and maybe put up a
 wireframe to show how the frontpage would look.

 I think he did that already :)

I think he did too, but I can't access or edit it.
You are not allowed to view this page.


 also, it would be awesome if we can get a few options like this for the
 irc meeting on Thursday.

Agreed. I will try to get this up asap. I do plan on attending the meeting.

Thanks,

Jim
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contributing to Wiki

2011-04-04 Thread Alan Bartlett
On 4 April 2011 18:25, Jim Woods redkil...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Karanbir Singh mail-li...@karan.org wrote:

 I think he did that already :)

 I think he did too, but I can't access or edit it.
 You are not allowed to view this page.

I've just checked and see that there is a typo on the acl line.
Unfortunately I can't correct it . . .

Ralph, KB, Russ -- something for you to do, please.

Alan.
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[CentOS-docs] Contributing to Wiki

2011-04-04 Thread R P Herrold
On Mon, 4 Apr 2011, Alan Bartlett wrote:

 I think he did too, but I can't access or edit it.
 You are not allowed to view this page.

 I've just checked and see that there is a typo on the acl line.
 Unfortunately I can't correct it . . .

umm -- E_NEED_CONTEXT  ;)

What page URL and perhaps a diff as to what is desired, 
please? -- I've deleted the prior thread tail out of my 
mailspool already

-- Russ herrold
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contributing to Wiki

2011-04-04 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 10:40 AM, R P Herrold herr...@centos.org wrote:
 On Mon, 4 Apr 2011, Alan Bartlett wrote:

 I think he did too, but I can't access or edit it.
 You are not allowed to view this page.

 I've just checked and see that there is a typo on the acl line.
 Unfortunately I can't correct it . . .

 umm -- E_NEED_CONTEXT  ;)

 What page URL and perhaps a diff as to what is desired,
 please? -- I've deleted the prior thread tail out of my
 mailspool already

Here:

http://wiki.centos.org/JimWoods

#acl JimWoods:reead,write,revert,delete Default

Akemi
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contributing to Wiki

2011-04-04 Thread Alan Bartlett
On 4 April 2011 18:40, R P Herrold herr...@centos.org wrote:
 On Mon, 4 Apr 2011, Alan Bartlett wrote:

 I think he did too, but I can't access or edit it.
 You are not allowed to view this page.

 I've just checked and see that there is a typo on the acl line.
 Unfortunately I can't correct it . . .

 umm -- E_NEED_CONTEXT  ;)

 What page URL and perhaps a diff as to what is desired,
 please? -- I've deleted the prior thread tail out of my
 mailspool already

Oops, sorry Russ. And to compound things, I've just had a network disconnect!

Please correct the typo in the acl line for Jim's home page [1], explicitly:

s/reead/read/

and that should, I believe, solve the problem.

Alan.

[1] http://wiki.centos.org/JimWoods
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contributing to Wiki

2011-04-04 Thread Manuel Wolfshant
On 04/04/2011 08:48 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 10:40 AM, R P Herroldherr...@centos.org  wrote:
 On Mon, 4 Apr 2011, Alan Bartlett wrote:

 I think he did too, but I can't access or edit it.
 You are not allowed to view this page.
 I've just checked and see that there is a typo on the acl line.
 Unfortunately I can't correct it . . .
 umm -- E_NEED_CONTEXT  ;)

 What page URL and perhaps a diff as to what is desired,
 please? -- I've deleted the prior thread tail out of my
 mailspool already
 Here:

 http://wiki.centos.org/JimWoods

 #acl JimWoods:reead,write,revert,delete Default

 Akemi
I used my supercow powers and fixed it .

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contributing to Wiki

2011-04-04 Thread Manuel Wolfshant
On 04/04/2011 09:00 PM, Manuel Wolfshant wrote:
 On 04/04/2011 08:48 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 10:40 AM, R P Herroldherr...@centos.org   wrote:
 On Mon, 4 Apr 2011, Alan Bartlett wrote:

 I think he did too, but I can't access or edit it.
 You are not allowed to view this page.
 I've just checked and see that there is a typo on the acl line.
 Unfortunately I can't correct it . . .
 umm -- E_NEED_CONTEXT  ;)

 What page URL and perhaps a diff as to what is desired,
 please? -- I've deleted the prior thread tail out of my
 mailspool already
 Here:

 http://wiki.centos.org/JimWoods

 #acl JimWoods:reead,write,revert,delete Default

 Akemi
 I used my supercow powers and fixed it .


Actually I wanted to by I am not allowed to. I am just an ordinary cow, 
sorry for the noise.


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contributing to Wiki

2011-04-04 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Manuel Wolfshant
wo...@nobugconsulting.ro wrote:
 On 04/04/2011 09:00 PM, Manuel Wolfshant wrote:
 On 04/04/2011 08:48 PM, Akemi Yagi wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 10:40 AM, R P Herroldherr...@centos.org   wrote:

 What page URL and perhaps a diff as to what is desired,
 please? -- I've deleted the prior thread tail out of my
 mailspool already
 Here:

 http://wiki.centos.org/JimWoods

 #acl JimWoods:reead,write,revert,delete Default

 Akemi
 I used my supercow powers and fixed it .

 Actually I wanted to by I am not allowed to. I am just an ordinary cow,
 sorry for the noise.

You are a supercow. But we need a super-duper-cow here.

Akemi
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contributing to Wiki

2011-04-04 Thread Jim Woods
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Akemi Yagi amy...@gmail.com wrote:
 You are a supercow. But we need a super-duper-cow here.

I don't know who or what kind of cow did it, but I seem to be able to edit now.

Thanks,

Jim
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Contributing to Wiki

2011-04-04 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Jim Woods redkil...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Akemi Yagi amy...@gmail.com wrote:
 You are a supercow. But we need a super-duper-cow here.

 I don't know who or what kind of cow did it, but I seem to be able to edit 
 now.

 Thanks,

It was done by a super-super-cow named KB. :-)

Akemi
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