Re: [CentOS-docs] Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, and BCM4322-based hardware install manual

2009-12-31 Thread Alan Bartlett
2009/12/29 Mathieu Baudier mbaud...@argeo.org:
 More generally my question would be: if we would automate this
 procedure in a RPM (including the download from Broadcom website),
 would it count as redistribution??

 I'd like to ask again because I'm afraid this question went unoticed:
 if we were to automate this process (including the download), would it
 count as redistribution in your opinion?

In the light of the legal opinion that we (ELRepo) obtained, I say yes.

My advice to anyone using Broadcom source code released under that
restrictive license is to read it *very carefully*.

I think about this scenario:

A CentOS / RHEL / SL end user builds and installs the Broadcom driver
on { her | his } laptop by following Milos' guide. Some months later,
the laptop is stolen and is eventually used in some criminal activity.
In the course of the investigation of the subsequent crime, it is
discovered that the laptop (using the Broadcom driver) was a tool in
the crime. The victim (let's assume it is an Uncle Sam based
multi-national organisation) promptly makes a claim against Broadcom.
Broadcom, as a result of that license which the above end user has
agreed to by building and installing the driver, promptly makes an
equivalent claim *plus* all of its fee, costs, etc, against the end
user. Very nasty for the end user. (Milos' however is quite safe. He
has just clearly explained how to install the driver and not provided
a binary copy to *anyone*.)

Anyone concerned with the terms and clauses of that Broadcom license
should obtain professional legal advice.

Regards,
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, and BCM4322-based hardware install manual

2009-12-29 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Am 28.12.09 20:20, schrieb Milos Blazevic:

 The only thing I'm not so sure about is whether or not it'd be good idea
 for the page maintainter(s) to be denoted. Personally, I have nothing
 against naming myself as the maintainter, although, I believe it'd be
 wrong not to name other people who contributed, esp. Alan Bartlett, it's
 just that I don't feel invited to speak in their (his) name without
 their (his) consent.

Well, most of the page comes from you, so please take credit for it (the
little last changed by at the bottom of the page changes). It's not
needed, but if you want to - go ahead and put your name there.

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, and BCM4322-based hardware install manual

2009-12-29 Thread Mathieu Baudier
 More generally my question would be: if we would automate this
 procedure in a RPM (including the download from Broadcom website),
 would it count as redistribution??

I'd like to ask again because I'm afraid this question went unoticed:
if we were to automate this process (including the download), would it
count as redistribution in your opinion?
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, and BCM4322-based hardware install manual

2009-12-28 Thread Alan Bartlett
2009/12/28 Milos Blazevic milos.blaze...@sbb.rs:

 The only thing I'm not so sure about is whether or not it'd be good idea
 for the page maintainter(s) to be denoted. Personally, I have nothing
 against naming myself as the maintainter, although, I believe it'd be
 wrong not to name other people who contributed, esp. Alan Bartlett, it's
 just that I don't feel invited to speak in their (his) name without
 their (his) consent.

Milos,

You have created that page and I assume, if it requires modification
with the passage of time, you will also maintain it. So please take
the credit for it.

Others with global edit rights will inevitably make little adjustments
but it's still your page.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, and BCM4322-based hardware install manual

2009-12-25 Thread Gytis Repečka
I also think wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Wireless/Broadcom would definitely 
be the way to go.

Also I would like to note that 'modprobe' worked fine for me.

And to correct compile error I've edited src/include/typedefs.h by adding 
'#define TYPEDEF_BOOL' right after header comment.

Merry Christmas everyone! :)

Yours faithfully,
Gytis Repecka

www.repecka.com

2009 Gruodis 25, 13:51, Pen, Dag Wieers rašė:
 On Thu, 24 Dec 2009, Milos Blazevic wrote:

 I've made the change and updated the Making wireless work page with
 the new manual...

 Hi Milos,

 Looking at the changes to the document, the procedure for this one type of
 Wireless NICs is much more complicated than for all the others together.
 So I would prefer if this procedure for building the driver becomes part
 of a separate page and the overview page simply gets a link to it.

 Something like:

   http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Wireless/Broadcom

 Imagine we have 5 more such procedures, that page would become a nightmare
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, and BCM4322-based hardware install manual

2009-12-24 Thread Milos Blazevic
Mathieu Baudier wrote:
 OK then, I'll take your sillence as an approval of the manual and remove
 the DRAFT tag and move it to *Making Wireless work on your laptop (or
 desktop)
 *So if anyone has any final suggestions or comments I'd be happy to hear
 it before this goes official.
 

 Sorry, for not testing sooner.

 I took some time this morning and could update my driver using the
 latest kernel update!

 Here are my comments:

 1. There is a typo in: mkdir -P /usr/local/src/hybrid-wl
 mkdir takes the -p option (lower case)

 2. I could not perform: modprobe wl.ko
 but:
 insmod wl.ko
 works

 3. I did not need to define all the aliases, neither remove all b43
 stuff (I'm on a CentOS x86_64)
 Since I prefer not to diverge too much from the base system, I left it
 like that.

 4. Interestingly I tried to define TYPEDEF_BOOL via the command line
 (which would avoid the modification of the files):
 make -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/ M=$BUILD_DIR MODFLAGS=-DTYPEDEF_BOOL
 It builds without error, and the module can be inserted, but then it
 is not working (wlan networks are not found)

 More generally my question would be: if we would automate this
 procedure in a RPM (including the download from Broadcom website),
 would it count as redistribution??

 Please find below for reference the script and patch I used for my testing.
 (please note: that the module is built in a temporary directory in
 order to keep the source directory read-only)

 Thanks for the hard work!

 Mathieu

 ##
 ## broadcom.sh
 ##
 #!/bin/sh

 WL_VERSION=v5.10.91.9.3
 WL_ARCH=x86_64
 SRC_DIR=/usr/local/src/broadcom-hybrid-wl-$WL_ARCH-$WL_VERSION
 BUILD_DIR=/tmp/wlbuild

 # Step 1: Prerequisites
 sudo /sbin/lspci | grep Broadcom
 sudo yum install kernel-headers kernel-devel gcc

 # Step 2: Retrieve sources
 sudo mkdir -p $SRC_DIR
 sudo cp -v broadcom-wl.patch $SRC_DIR
 cd /tmp  wget -N
 http://www.broadcom.com/docs/linux_sta/hybrid-portsrc-$WL_ARCH-$WL_VERSION.tar.gz
 cd $SRC_DIR  sudo tar -xzf /tmp/hybrid-portsrc-$WL_ARCH-$WL_VERSION.tar.gz

 # Step 3: Build as unprivileged user
 mkdir $BUILD_DIR
 cp -r $SRC_DIR/* $BUILD_DIR
 cd $BUILD_DIR
 #make -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/ M=$BUILD_DIR MODFLAGS=-DTYPEDEF_BOOL
 patch -Np1  $SRC_DIR/broadcom-wl.patch
 make -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/ M=`pwd`
 strip --strip-debug $BUILD_DIR/wl.ko

 # Step 4a: Check that the new module can be loaded
 #sudo /sbin/rmmod bcm43xx
 #sudo /sbin/rmmod b43
 #sudo /sbin/rmmod b43legacy
 #sudo /sbin/rmmod ndiswrapper
 #sudo /sbin/modprobe ieee80211_crypt_tkip

 #sudo /sbin/rmmod wl
 sudo /sbin/insmod $BUILD_DIR/wl.ko
 #sudo /sbin/service NetworkManager restart

 # Step 4b: Install
 sudo cp -v $BUILD_DIR/wl.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/extra/
 sudo /sbin/depmod $(uname -r)
 sudo /sbin/modprobe wl
 #sudo /sbin/service NetworkManager restart

 # Clean up
 rm -vf /tmp/hybrid-portsrc-*.tar.gz
 rm -rf $BUILD_DIR


 ##
 ## broadcom-wl.patch
 ##

 diff -Naur hybrid-portsrc/src/include/typedefs.h
 hybrid-portsrc-mod/src/include/typedefs.h
 --- hybrid-portsrc/src/include/typedefs.h 2009-09-16 00:25:27.0 
 +0200
 +++ hybrid-portsrc-mod/src/include/typedefs.h 2009-12-23
 12:32:15.0 +0100
 @@ -65,11 +65,11 @@

  #ifdef USE_TYPEDEF_DEFAULTS
  #undef USE_TYPEDEF_DEFAULTS
 -
 +/*
  #ifndef TYPEDEF_BOOL
  typedef   unsigned char  bool;
  #endif
 -
 +*/
  #ifndef TYPEDEF_UCHAR
  typedef unsigned charuchar;
  #endif
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Thanks for the correction (with the 'mkdir')!
I've made the change and updated the Making wireless work page with
the new manual...
Curious that you have to use 'insmod' to load the module, instead
'modprobe'.
Funny thing is that I've been using the same procedure every time after
upgrading the kernel on the same /CentOS 5.3-5.4 x86_64/ since August...
when I first installed this driver, and as far as I recall, modprobe
always worked.

The excerpt from the 'modprobe' manual states: /*insmod* is a trivial
program to insert a module into the kernel: if the filename is a hyphen,
the module is taken from standard input. Most users will want to use
modprobe(8) instead, which is cleverer.

/In the event we see some more users experiencing this issue, it would
surely be a good idea to add the note to the manual.

The draft will be removed from my CentOS Wiki home page shortly.


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, and BCM4322-based hardware install manual

2009-12-23 Thread Alan Bartlett
2009/12/22 Milos Blazevic milos.blaze...@sbb.rs:

 OK then, I'll take your sillence as an approval of the manual and remove
 the DRAFT tag and move it to *Making Wireless work on your laptop (or
 desktop)
 *So if anyone has any final suggestions or comments I'd be happy to hear
 it before this goes official.

O.k. Milos, please go for it. :-) Once the guide is in place, I'm sure
that a little spot of polishing will eventually occur.

I would suggest that it is linked here --
http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Wireless#head-320d6fcf09b7e16e0b15d19ef76adcb023a95938

Ralph -- What's your view? Any opinion, please?

Regards,
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, and BCM4322-based hardware install manual

2009-12-23 Thread Mathieu Baudier
 OK then, I'll take your sillence as an approval of the manual and remove
 the DRAFT tag and move it to *Making Wireless work on your laptop (or
 desktop)
 *So if anyone has any final suggestions or comments I'd be happy to hear
 it before this goes official.

Sorry, for not testing sooner.

I took some time this morning and could update my driver using the
latest kernel update!

Here are my comments:

1. There is a typo in: mkdir -P /usr/local/src/hybrid-wl
mkdir takes the -p option (lower case)

2. I could not perform: modprobe wl.ko
but:
insmod wl.ko
works

3. I did not need to define all the aliases, neither remove all b43
stuff (I'm on a CentOS x86_64)
Since I prefer not to diverge too much from the base system, I left it
like that.

4. Interestingly I tried to define TYPEDEF_BOOL via the command line
(which would avoid the modification of the files):
make -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/ M=$BUILD_DIR MODFLAGS=-DTYPEDEF_BOOL
It builds without error, and the module can be inserted, but then it
is not working (wlan networks are not found)

More generally my question would be: if we would automate this
procedure in a RPM (including the download from Broadcom website),
would it count as redistribution??

Please find below for reference the script and patch I used for my testing.
(please note: that the module is built in a temporary directory in
order to keep the source directory read-only)

Thanks for the hard work!

Mathieu

##
## broadcom.sh
##
#!/bin/sh

WL_VERSION=v5.10.91.9.3
WL_ARCH=x86_64
SRC_DIR=/usr/local/src/broadcom-hybrid-wl-$WL_ARCH-$WL_VERSION
BUILD_DIR=/tmp/wlbuild

# Step 1: Prerequisites
sudo /sbin/lspci | grep Broadcom
sudo yum install kernel-headers kernel-devel gcc

# Step 2: Retrieve sources
sudo mkdir -p $SRC_DIR
sudo cp -v broadcom-wl.patch $SRC_DIR
cd /tmp  wget -N
http://www.broadcom.com/docs/linux_sta/hybrid-portsrc-$WL_ARCH-$WL_VERSION.tar.gz
cd $SRC_DIR  sudo tar -xzf /tmp/hybrid-portsrc-$WL_ARCH-$WL_VERSION.tar.gz

# Step 3: Build as unprivileged user
mkdir $BUILD_DIR
cp -r $SRC_DIR/* $BUILD_DIR
cd $BUILD_DIR
#make -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/ M=$BUILD_DIR MODFLAGS=-DTYPEDEF_BOOL
patch -Np1  $SRC_DIR/broadcom-wl.patch
make -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/ M=`pwd`
strip --strip-debug $BUILD_DIR/wl.ko

# Step 4a: Check that the new module can be loaded
#sudo /sbin/rmmod bcm43xx
#sudo /sbin/rmmod b43
#sudo /sbin/rmmod b43legacy
#sudo /sbin/rmmod ndiswrapper
#sudo /sbin/modprobe ieee80211_crypt_tkip

#sudo /sbin/rmmod wl
sudo /sbin/insmod $BUILD_DIR/wl.ko
#sudo /sbin/service NetworkManager restart

# Step 4b: Install
sudo cp -v $BUILD_DIR/wl.ko /lib/modules/`uname -r`/extra/
sudo /sbin/depmod $(uname -r)
sudo /sbin/modprobe wl
#sudo /sbin/service NetworkManager restart

# Clean up
rm -vf /tmp/hybrid-portsrc-*.tar.gz
rm -rf $BUILD_DIR


##
## broadcom-wl.patch
##

diff -Naur hybrid-portsrc/src/include/typedefs.h
hybrid-portsrc-mod/src/include/typedefs.h
--- hybrid-portsrc/src/include/typedefs.h   2009-09-16 00:25:27.0 
+0200
+++ hybrid-portsrc-mod/src/include/typedefs.h   2009-12-23
12:32:15.0 +0100
@@ -65,11 +65,11 @@

 #ifdef USE_TYPEDEF_DEFAULTS
 #undef USE_TYPEDEF_DEFAULTS
-
+/*
 #ifndef TYPEDEF_BOOL
 typedef unsigned char  bool;
 #endif
-
+*/
 #ifndef TYPEDEF_UCHAR
 typedef unsigned char  uchar;
 #endif
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, and BCM4322-based hardware install manual

2009-12-18 Thread Mathieu Baudier
Hi,

this looks fine for me, thanks for your efforts!

I don't have the laptop with the Broadcom card here but I'll test your
procedure point by point in a few days when I'll upgrade the kernel
there.

Just one remark: I had to deactivate the 'network' service and
activate the 'NetworkManager' service in order to easily have wireless
working.
I also do the them on my other laptop (which thankfully doesn't have a
Broadcom card :).
Is there another (simple) way? Or should this be added somewhere as well?

Cheers,

Mathieu

On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 01:40, Milos Blazevic milos.blaze...@sbb.rs wrote:
 Hi all,

 consider the manual completed. It's still only published as a draft on
 my CentOS Wiki homepage

 http://wiki.centos.org/MilosBlazevic?action=show

 so I was hoping for some additional critical input and comments (if you
 find any typos, anything I missed, suggestions ...) before actually
 publishing this manual on the Making wireless work page.

 Alan has already given some very nice remarks and suggestions which I
 happily followed and incorporated. Thanks Alan!

 Also, do you think this should be published on
 http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Wireless or a separate page linked
 to the former?


 Regards,
 Milos

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, and BCM4322-based hardware install manual

2009-12-17 Thread Milos Blazevic
Hi all,

consider the manual completed. It's still only published as a draft on 
my CentOS Wiki homepage

http://wiki.centos.org/MilosBlazevic?action=show

so I was hoping for some additional critical input and comments (if you 
find any typos, anything I missed, suggestions ...) before actually 
publishing this manual on the Making wireless work page.

Alan has already given some very nice remarks and suggestions which I 
happily followed and incorporated. Thanks Alan!

Also, do you think this should be published on 
http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Wireless or a separate page linked 
to the former?


Regards,
Milos

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, and BCM4322-based hardware install manual

2009-12-14 Thread Ralph Angenendt
 It's just that I don't seem to have privileges to create one... am I
 doing something wrong, or should I ask Ralph to grant me permissions to
 do this?

Go ahead, it's there (hey, other people here also *could* do this) =:)

Ralph
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, and BCM4322-based hardware install manual

2009-12-14 Thread Alan Bartlett
2009/12/14 Ralph Angenendt ralph.angene...@gmail.com:
 It's just that I don't seem to have privileges to create one... am I
 doing something wrong, or should I ask Ralph to grant me permissions to
 do this?

 Go ahead, it's there (hey, other people here also *could* do this) =:)

 Ralph

We like to make *you* feel wanted! :-P

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, and BCM4322-based hardware install manual

2009-12-13 Thread Gytis Repečka
Hello everybody,

actually Ubuntu also distributes Broadcom's driver in their default 
repositories, so these chipsets work out-of-the-box.

I'm always ready to collaborate on tutorials, e-mail me. Maybe we could even 
write a shell script which could dowload and install Broadcom's driver 
according to our instructions.

Yours faithfully,
Gytis Repecka

www.repecka.com

2009 Gruodis 12, 21:03, Šeš, Mathieu Baudier rašė:
 Hi,

 a few weeks ago, I got the broadcom wireless working on a MacBook Pro
 (2008) running CentOS 5.4 using  more or less the same approach as
 Gytis.
 I'll be happy to retest the whole generic procedure on this hardware.

 What surprises me though is that RPMFusion distributes the kmod-wl for
 Fedora (I use it on the same hardware with Fedora 11 and 12):

 http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/releases/12/Everything/x86_64/os/repoview/kmod-wl.html
 http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/releases/12/Everything/x86_64/os/repoview/kmod-wl-2.6.31.5-127.fc12.x86_64.html
 http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/releases/12/Everything/x86_64/os/repoview/broadcom-wl.html

 Do you think they could work around this license issue?
 Or they are not aware of it? (would suprise me)

 Maybe it would be worth asking them?

 Cheers,

 Mathieu
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, and BCM4322-based hardware install manual

2009-12-13 Thread Milos Blazevic
Hello (again),

I saw I've been granted the rights to edit the page. Thanks Ralph! I'd 
like to thank all for supporting me on this matter.
And yes Ralph, good point about sending from the address I registered 
with,... never really thought about it.

In the next few days I'll be editing the wiki page so the manual will 
become available and all critical input is welcome - we all want a 
comprehenssive manual, don't we?
Also, I personally think we can't presume to bind this particular WLAN 
card to a particular laptop model (in respect of the manual), and vice 
versa. For instance, Inspiron 1525 I'm using usually comes with several 
different flavors of WLAN cards - don't be surprised if you find it 
working with iwl1395 driver because yes, they sometimes do come with 
Intel wireless card.

As for the drivers RPM Fusion and that no-vim-distro repos :) provide, 
this is the matter which the developers will certainly much better 
explain, especially since ELrepo developers are engaged in this 
discussion. Also, I myself was under the impression that Phil 
(NedSlider) considered thoroughly the option of building and .rpm for 
this driver.


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, and BCM4322-based hardware install manual

2009-12-13 Thread Ned Slider
On 12/13/2009 01:02 PM, Milos Blazevic wrote:
 Hello (again),

 I saw I've been granted the rights to edit the page. Thanks Ralph! I'd
 like to thank all for supporting me on this matter.
 And yes Ralph, good point about sending from the address I registered
 with,... never really thought about it.

 In the next few days I'll be editing the wiki page so the manual will
 become available and all critical input is welcome - we all want a
 comprehenssive manual, don't we?
 Also, I personally think we can't presume to bind this particular WLAN
 card to a particular laptop model (in respect of the manual), and vice
 versa. For instance, Inspiron 1525 I'm using usually comes with several
 different flavors of WLAN cards - don't be surprised if you find it
 working with iwl1395 driver because yes, they sometimes do come with
 Intel wireless card.

Agreed. I would think the logical location would be in the Wireless page:

http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Wireless

where there is already a small section near the bottom that could be 
replaced, or if your contribution is too large to fit conveniently on 
that page then do it as a separate page and link it from there.

It might be a good idea to do it as a separate page in your own area 
first as a draft (Ralph can probably help with that?), then once this 
list has had a chance to review it, it can be moved to the correct 
location? That way we don't have draft content sitting on a finished 
page whilst being written, if that makes sense.


 As for the drivers RPM Fusion and that no-vim-distro repos :) provide,
 this is the matter which the developers will certainly much better
 explain, especially since ELrepo developers are engaged in this
 discussion. Also, I myself was under the impression that Phil
 (NedSlider) considered thoroughly the option of building and .rpm for
 this driver.


I have no idea what the policy of others is on redistributing such 
content, but as others have said, when I looked at it for inclusion in 
ELRepo I was concerned by the terms for redistribution in the license, 
and sought advice from the Software Freedom Law Center. We concluded 
that we (ELRepo.org) couldn't redistribute it under the current terms, 
hence why I feel such a guide here would be hugely beneficial.


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, and BCM4322-based hardware install manual

2009-12-12 Thread Gytis Repečka
Hello everybody,

actually I've also solved BCM problems on Dell laptop. A complete walkthough I 
made is posted at http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Dell/Vostro-1400 and 
I'm almost sure this might work for many BCM chipsets. If anybody checked this 
on diffrent laptops, maybe a universal tutorial could be posted at 
http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Wireless.

Of course if there's already a RPM package for Broadcom, would be nice to see 
instructions on Wiki.

Yours faithfully,
Gytis Repecka

www.repecka.com

2009 Gruodis 11, 19:11, Pen, Alan Bartlett rašė:
 2009/12/10 Milos Blazevic mil...@list-solutions.com

 Hi Ralph,

 I'm a member of CentOS forum and I've tracked problems laptop users are 
 having with Broadcom's wireless hardware (namely, the one(s) in the subject).
 Under the circumstances, I had to install one of these myself back in 
 August, which I did - after doing some googleing. Shortly after, NedSlider 
 considered compiling the driver for ELrepo, but gave up after reviewing 
 Broadcom's software license. Meanwhile, I've noticed quite a few people 
 having problems with installation of this particular driver, but usually 
 asking for help due to lack of a comprehensive manual, and thats just on 
 forum and mailing list.

 The point:
 I've written a manual (hopefully comprehensive one), and would like to 
 publish it on CentOS Wiki pages (CentOS on Laptops, in particular). I've 
 already discussed this issue with Alan Bartlett, and both he and Phil 
 (NedSlider) expressed their support. Alan also refered you as the man I 
 should send this request to along with my Wiki login name, so you could  
 eventually escalate my privileges on CentOS Wiki.
 My CentOS Wiki login name is:         MilosBlazevic


 Regards,
 --

 Blazevic Milos,

 Just giving Ralph a gentle bump -- on Milos' behalf.

 (It's not the time of a pre-Christmas beer festival in Germany, is it?)

 Alan.
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, and BCM4322-based hardware install manual

2009-12-12 Thread Alan Bartlett
2009/12/12 Gytis Repečka gy...@repecka.com:

 actually I've also solved BCM problems on Dell laptop. A complete walkthough 
 I made is posted at http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Dell/Vostro-1400 
 and I'm almost sure this might work for many BCM chipsets. If anybody checked 
 this on diffrent laptops, maybe a universal tutorial could be posted at 
 http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Wireless.

Perhaps you could collaborate with Milos on such a guide?

 Of course if there's already a RPM package for Broadcom, would be nice to see 
 instructions on Wiki.

That will not happen until such time as Broadcom change their
restrictive license. If (when) that does happen, ELRepo will happily
provide kernel independent, kABI tracking kmod package(s) for the
Broadcom wireless cards.

Alan.
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Re: [CentOS-docs] Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, and BCM4322-based hardware install manual

2009-12-12 Thread S.Tindall
On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 15:58 +, Alan Bartlett wrote:
 2009/12/12 Gytis Repečka gy...@repecka.com:
 
  actually I've also solved BCM problems on Dell laptop. A complete 
  walkthough I made is posted at 
  http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Dell/Vostro-1400 and I'm almost sure 
  this might work for many BCM chipsets. If anybody checked this on diffrent 
  laptops, maybe a universal tutorial could be posted at 
  http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Wireless.
 
 Perhaps you could collaborate with Milos on such a guide?
 
  Of course if there's already a RPM package for Broadcom, would be nice to 
  see instructions on Wiki.
 
 That will not happen until such time as Broadcom change their
 restrictive license. If (when) that does happen, ELRepo will happily
 provide kernel independent, kABI tracking kmod package(s) for the
 Broadcom wireless cards.

To follow up on Alan's comments, if you wonder why ELRepo will not
create a Broadcom package for this one, then review the following
section 2.3.(b) of Broadcom's LICENSE AGREEMENT (from the referenced
Broadcom download):

2.3. Restriction on Distribution.  Licensee shall only distribute the
Software (a) under the terms of this Agreement and a copy of this
Agreement accompanies such distribution, and (b) agrees to defend and
indemnify Broadcom and its licensors from and against any damages,
costs, liabilities, settlement amounts and/or expenses (including
attorneys' fees) incurred in connection with any claim, lawsuit or
action by any third party that arises or results from the use or
distribution of any and all Software by the Licensee except as
contemplated herein.

It would be hard to imagine a more redistribution unfriendly agreement
than that one.

Steve


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Broadcom's BCM4311-, BCM4312-, BCM4321-, and BCM4322-based hardware install manual

2009-12-11 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Am 11.12.09 18:20, schrieb Alan Bartlett:

 Hmm. Having checked the mail archives, I can't find Milos' original
 message to the m/l. Guess I'd better delete the reference to a
 Germanic beer festival . . .

Oh, let me just ask the same about any alcohol related festivities in
the UK and we're done :)

I just got the Mail via Akemi.

Cheers(!)

Ralph
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