Re: [CentOS] Centos in the Browser string ?

[Always Learning]

On Thu, 2016-03-31 at 05:59 +, Sorin Srbu wrote:

> > -Original Message-
> > From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
> > Behalf Of g

> > if you have a file in profile directory, add this to it. if not,
> > create file and paste this in it.
> >
> >   //set user agent to blank
> >   user_pref("general.useragent.override", " ");
> >
> > what makes you get a unique rating is that you report no agent. only
> > info any site will know about you is your ip address.
> >
> > if you want to hide that, use a proxy server. ((GBWG))

> Please excuse my ignorance, but what file in what profile directory is 
> referred to here?

I don't know.

I successfully, in about:config, created an variable
'general.useragent.override' with a value 'Mozilla/5.0'

Then Youtube refused to play videos in full-screen. Google, the owner of
Youtube, stated either my browser did not support full screen or the
video creator had blocked the video being played in full-screen.

Deleted the variable and Youtube videos again seen in full-screen.



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Re: [CentOS] Centos in the Browser string ?

[g]

On 03/31/16 01:00, Sorin Srbu wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
>> Behalf Of g
>> Sent: den 24 mars 2016 17:22
>> To: centos@centos.org
>> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Centos in the Browser string ?
>>
>> now i goofed. :-\
>>
>>   if you have file "user.js" in profile directory,
>
> Ah, thank you!
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Re: [CentOS] Centos in the Browser string ?

[Sorin Srbu]

> -Original Message-
> From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
> Behalf Of g
> Sent: den 24 mars 2016 17:22
> To: centos@centos.org
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Centos in the Browser string ?
> 
> 
> now i goofed. :-\
> 
> 
>   if you have file "user.js" in profile directory,

Ah, thank you!

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Re: [CentOS] Centos in the Browser string ?

[Sorin Srbu]

> -Original Message-
> From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On
> Behalf Of g
> Sent: den 24 mars 2016 16:56
> To: centos@centos.org
> Subject: Re: [CentOS] Centos in the Browser string ?
>
> if you have a file in profile directory, add this to it. if not,
> create file and paste this in it.
>
>   //set user agent to blank
>   user_pref("general.useragent.override", " ");
>
> what makes you get a unique rating is that you report no agent. only
> info any site will know about you is your ip address.
>
> if you want to hide that, use a proxy server. ((GBWG))

Please excuse my ignorance, but what file in what profile directory is 
referred to here?

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Re: [CentOS] Centos in the Browser string ?

[Valeri Galtsev]

On Fri, March 25, 2016 7:10 pm, James B. Byrne wrote:
>
> On Thu, March 24, 2016 11:56, g wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 03/24/16 09:29, Richard wrote:
 Date: Thursday, March 24, 2016 14:10:41 +
 From: Always Learning 
 On Wed, 2016-03-23 at 22:29 -0700, Alice Wonder wrote:

> What purpose does it serve? I don't object to it being there
>  but I also don't see a benefit to it being there.
>
> Ubuntu btw is not exactly a distribution I want RHEL/EPEL/CentOS
> developers to emulate...

 Spread the successful Centos 'brand name' :-)
>>>
>>> The user-agent string is one of the items used in uniquely
>>> identifying/fingerprinting a user/machine, so the more generic it is
>>> the better. Including the details of the OS add to the "bits of
>>> identifying information" available to trackers.
>>>
>>> See the EFF testing site for more details:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> --
>>
>> aware of panopticlick.
>>
>> if you have a file in profile directory, add this to it. if not,
>> create file and paste this in it.
>>
>>   //set user agent to blank
>>   user_pref("general.useragent.override", " ");
>>
>> what makes you get a unique rating is that you report no agent. only
>> info any site will know about you is your ip address.
>>
>> if you want to hide that, use a proxy server. ((GBWG))
>>
>>
>
> On the other hand, setting it to 'Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1;
> rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/38.0' would make one look like the
> latest TOR browser.  Which, if CentOS set Firefox to that by default,
> would make identifying TOR users a great deal harder.

Which tor users prefer not to anyway ;-)

>
> Just a thought.
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Re: [CentOS] Centos in the Browser string ?

[James B. Byrne]

On Thu, March 24, 2016 11:56, g wrote:
>
>
> On 03/24/16 09:29, Richard wrote:
>>> Date: Thursday, March 24, 2016 14:10:41 +
>>> From: Always Learning 
>>> On Wed, 2016-03-23 at 22:29 -0700, Alice Wonder wrote:
>>>
 What purpose does it serve? I don't object to it being there
  but I also don't see a benefit to it being there.

 Ubuntu btw is not exactly a distribution I want RHEL/EPEL/CentOS
 developers to emulate...
>>>
>>> Spread the successful Centos 'brand name' :-)
>>
>> The user-agent string is one of the items used in uniquely
>> identifying/fingerprinting a user/machine, so the more generic it is
>> the better. Including the details of the OS add to the "bits of
>> identifying information" available to trackers.
>>
>> See the EFF testing site for more details:
>>
>>
>>
> --
>
> aware of panopticlick.
>
> if you have a file in profile directory, add this to it. if not,
> create file and paste this in it.
>
>   //set user agent to blank
>   user_pref("general.useragent.override", " ");
>
> what makes you get a unique rating is that you report no agent. only
> info any site will know about you is your ip address.
>
> if you want to hide that, use a proxy server. ((GBWG))
>
>

On the other hand, setting it to 'Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1;
rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/38.0' would make one look like the
latest TOR browser.  Which, if CentOS set Firefox to that by default,
would make identifying TOR users a great deal harder.

Just a thought.

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Re: [CentOS] Centos in the Browser string ?

[Always Learning]

On Thu, 2016-03-24 at 18:15 -0500, g wrote:
> 
> On 03/24/16 12:58, Always Learning wrote:

> >>   //set user agent to blank
> >>   user_pref("general.useragent.override", " ");
> >
> > This can also be set, in Firefox, using about:config
> > Right-click new string,  etc.

> such is not in about:config with 38.7.0.

You have to create the parameter in about:config

1. position over main panel full of different parameters.
2. right click
3. select 'new' and 'string'
4. enter 'general.useragent.override' then click 'ok'
5. enter your chosen arguments then click 'ok'
6. no browser restart is necessary.

To delete it, right click on it, select 'reset', restart browser and its
gone.




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Re: [CentOS] Centos in the Browser string ?

[g]

On 03/24/16 12:58, Always Learning wrote:
> On Thu, 2016-03-24 at 10:56 -0500, g wrote:
> 
>>> See the EFF testing site for more details:
>>>
>>>
>
>> aware of panopticlick.
>
> It states (calculator needed)
>
> 11.6% of browsers have time zone 0 (GMT)
> 10.0% of browsers have "Linux x86_64" (note this excludes Android) 
>  4.0% of browsers have "en-GB"
>
>> if you have a file in profile directory, add this to it. if not,
>> create file and paste this in it.
>>
>>   //set user agent to blank
>>   user_pref("general.useragent.override", " ");
>
> This can also be set, in Firefox, using about:config
> Right-click new string,  etc.
>
>> what makes you get a unique rating is that you report no agent. only
>> info any site will know about you is your ip address.
>
> Not exactly correct. See his site's
>  "Show full results for fingerprinting"
>
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such is not in about:config with 38.7.0.


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Re: [CentOS] Centos in the Browser string ?

[Leon Fauster]

Am 24.03.2016 um 16:56 schrieb g :
> On 03/24/16 09:29, Richard wrote:
>>> Date: Thursday, March 24, 2016 14:10:41 +
>>> From: Always Learning 
>>> On Wed, 2016-03-23 at 22:29 -0700, Alice Wonder wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Spread the successful Centos 'brand name' :-)
>> 
>> The user-agent string is one of the items used in uniquely
>> identifying/fingerprinting a user/machine, so the more generic it is
>> the better. Including the details of the OS add to the "bits of
>> identifying information" available to trackers.
>> 
>> See the EFF testing site for more details:
>> 
>>   
>> 
> --
> 
> aware of panopticlick.
> 
> if you have a file in profile directory, add this to it. if not,
> create file and paste this in it.
> 
>  //set user agent to blank
>  user_pref("general.useragent.override", " ");
> 


this makes you more identifiable ...

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Re: [CentOS] Centos in the Browser string ?

[Always Learning]

On Thu, 2016-03-24 at 10:56 -0500, g wrote:

> > See the EFF testing site for more details:
> >
> >


> aware of panopticlick.

It states (calculator needed)

11.6% of browsers have time zone 0 (GMT)
10.0% of browsers have "Linux x86_64" (note this excludes Android) 
 4.0% of browsers have "en-GB"

> if you have a file in profile directory, add this to it. if not,
> create file and paste this in it.
> 
>   //set user agent to blank
>   user_pref("general.useragent.override", " ");

This can also be set, in Firefox, using about:config
Right-click new string,  etc.

> what makes you get a unique rating is that you report no agent. only
> info any site will know about you is your ip address.

Not exactly correct. See his site's
 "Show full results for fingerprinting"


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Re: [CentOS] Centos in the Browser string ?

[g]

now i goofed. :-\

On 03/24/16 11:13, g wrote:

<<<>>>

> aware of panopticlick.
>
> if you have a file in profile directory,
>
--

above should read;

  if you have file "user.js" in profile directory,

> add this to it. if not,
> create file and paste this in it.
>
>   //set user agent to blank
>   user_pref("general.useragent.override", " ");
>
> what makes you get a unique rating is that you report no agent. only
> info any site will know about you is your ip address.
>
> if you want to hide that, use a proxy server. ((GBWG))
>


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Re: [CentOS] Centos in the Browser string ?

[g]

resend. yuckahoo bounced another post.

On 03/24/16 09:29, Richard wrote:
>> Date: Thursday, March 24, 2016 14:10:41 +
>> From: Always Learning 
>> On Wed, 2016-03-23 at 22:29 -0700, Alice Wonder wrote:
>>
>>> What purpose does it serve? I don't object to it being there
>>>  but I also don't see a benefit to it being there.
>>>
>>> Ubuntu btw is not exactly a distribution I want RHEL/EPEL/CentOS 
>>> developers to emulate...
>>
>> Spread the successful Centos 'brand name' :-)
>
> The user-agent string is one of the items used in uniquely
> identifying/fingerprinting a user/machine, so the more generic it is
> the better. Including the details of the OS add to the "bits of
> identifying information" available to trackers.
>
> See the EFF testing site for more details:
>
>
>
--

aware of panopticlick.

if you have a file in profile directory, add this to it. if not,
create file and paste this in it.

  //set user agent to blank
  user_pref("general.useragent.override", " ");

what makes you get a unique rating is that you report no agent. only
info any site will know about you is your ip address.

if you want to hide that, use a proxy server. ((GBWG))


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Re: [CentOS] Centos in the Browser string ?

[g]

On 03/24/16 09:29, Richard wrote:
>> Date: Thursday, March 24, 2016 14:10:41 +
>> From: Always Learning 
>> On Wed, 2016-03-23 at 22:29 -0700, Alice Wonder wrote:
>>
>>> What purpose does it serve? I don't object to it being there
>>>  but I also don't see a benefit to it being there.
>>>
>>> Ubuntu btw is not exactly a distribution I want RHEL/EPEL/CentOS 
>>> developers to emulate...
>>
>> Spread the successful Centos 'brand name' :-)
>
> The user-agent string is one of the items used in uniquely
> identifying/fingerprinting a user/machine, so the more generic it is
> the better. Including the details of the OS add to the "bits of
> identifying information" available to trackers.
>
> See the EFF testing site for more details:
>
>
>
--

aware of panopticlick.

if you have a file in profile directory, add this to it. if not,
create file and paste this in it.

  //set user agent to blank
  user_pref("general.useragent.override", " ");

what makes you get a unique rating is that you report no agent. only
info any site will know about you is your ip address.

if you want to hide that, use a proxy server. ((GBWG))


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Re: [CentOS] Centos in the Browser string ?

[g]

On 03/24/16 09:10, Always Learning wrote:
> On Wed, 2016-03-23 at 22:29 -0700, Alice Wonder wrote:
>
>> What purpose does it serve? I don't object to it being there
>>  but I also don't see a benefit to it being there.
>>
>> Ubuntu btw is not exactly a distribution I want RHEL/EPEL/CentOS 
>> developers to emulate...
>
> Spread the successful Centos 'brand name' :-)
>
--

see my reply to Richard.


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Re: [CentOS] Centos in the Browser string ?

[Richard]

> Date: Thursday, March 24, 2016 14:10:41 +
> From: Always Learning 
> 
> On Wed, 2016-03-23 at 22:29 -0700, Alice Wonder wrote:
> 
>> What purpose does it serve? I don't object to it being there
>>  but I also don't see a benefit to it being there.
>> 
>> Ubuntu btw is not exactly a distribution I want RHEL/EPEL/CentOS 
>> developers to emulate...
> 
> Spread the successful Centos 'brand name' :-)


The user-agent string is one of the items used in uniquely
identifying/fingerprinting a user/machine, so the more generic it is
the better. Including the details of the OS add to the "bits of
identifying information" available to trackers.

See the EFF testing site for more details:

   


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Re: [CentOS] Centos in the Browser string ?

[Always Learning]

On Wed, 2016-03-23 at 22:29 -0700, Alice Wonder wrote:


> What purpose does it serve? I don't object to it being there
>  but I also don't see a benefit to it being there.
> 
> Ubuntu btw is not exactly a distribution I want RHEL/EPEL/CentOS 
> developers to emulate...

Spread the successful Centos 'brand name' :-)

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Re: [CentOS] Centos in the Browser string ?

[g]

On 03/24/16 00:29, Alice Wonder wrote:
> On 03/23/2016 09:51 PM, Always Learning wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 2016-03-23 at 23:46 -0500, g wrote:
>>
>>
>>> until the devs get "r2i", you can use a firefox add-on;
>>>
>>>User-Agent Switcher 0.7.3.1
>>>https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/user-agent-switcher/
>>> or
>>>User Agent Quick Switch 0.5.2.1
>>>https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/user-agent-quick-switch/
>>> or
>>>User Agent Overrider 0.4.1
>>>https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/user-agent-overrider/
>>>
>>> to create your own user agent id.
>>
>> Thank you. As competitor Ubuntu has it, I thought why not Centos.
>>
>
> What purpose does it serve? I don't object to it being there but I also 
> don't see a benefit to it being there.
>
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as a matter of pride...

> Ubuntu btw is not exactly a distribution I want RHEL/EPEL/CentOS 
> developers to emulate...
>
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distribution as in a word of "term".


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Re: [CentOS] Centos in the Browser string ?

[g]

On 03/23/16 23:51, Always Learning wrote:
> On Wed, 2016-03-23 at 23:46 -0500, g wrote:
>
>> until the devs get "r2i", you can use a firefox add-on;
>>
>>   User-Agent Switcher 0.7.3.1
>>   https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/user-agent-switcher/
>> or
>>   User Agent Quick Switch 0.5.2.1
>>   https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/user-agent-quick-switch/
>> or
>>   User Agent Overrider 0.4.1
>>   https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/user-agent-overrider/
>>
>> to create your own user agent id.
>
> Thank you.
>
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> As competitor Ubuntu has it, I thought why not Centos.
>
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i agree. yet as said, until devs get "r2i". besides, it is ubuntu
competing against centos. not centos competing against ubuntu, which
in itself should tell you something. :-D

right now, they are busy keeping centos 7 ahead of ubuntu. ;-)


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Re: [CentOS] Centos in the Browser string ?

[Alice Wonder]

On 03/23/2016 09:51 PM, Always Learning wrote:


On Wed, 2016-03-23 at 23:46 -0500, g wrote:



until the devs get "r2i", you can use a firefox add-on;

   User-Agent Switcher 0.7.3.1
   https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/user-agent-switcher/
or
   User Agent Quick Switch 0.5.2.1
   https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/user-agent-quick-switch/
or
   User Agent Overrider 0.4.1
   https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/user-agent-overrider/

to create your own user agent id.


Thank you. As competitor Ubuntu has it, I thought why not Centos.




What purpose does it serve? I don't object to it being there but I also 
don't see a benefit to it being there.


Ubuntu btw is not exactly a distribution I want RHEL/EPEL/CentOS 
developers to emulate...


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Re: [CentOS] Centos in the Browser string ?

[Always Learning]

On Wed, 2016-03-23 at 23:46 -0500, g wrote:


> until the devs get "r2i", you can use a firefox add-on;
> 
>   User-Agent Switcher 0.7.3.1
>   https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/user-agent-switcher/
> or
>   User Agent Quick Switch 0.5.2.1
>   https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/user-agent-quick-switch/
> or
>   User Agent Overrider 0.4.1
>   https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/user-agent-overrider/
> 
> to create your own user agent id.

Thank you. As competitor Ubuntu has it, I thought why not Centos.




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Re: [CentOS] Centos in the Browser string ?

[g]

On 03/23/16 18:42, Always Learning wrote:
<>

> My C5 Firefox string is "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0)
> Gecko/20100101 Firefox/38.0".
>
> Ubunto has "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0)
> Gecko/20100101 Firefox/45.0"
>
> My questions are:-
>
> (1) Why can't we have 'Centos' in the Firefox browser string ?
>
> (2) Is 'X11' genuinely indicative of all 'real' Linux - both free and
> commercial ?   Android also calls itself Linux.
>
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until the devs get "r2i", you can use a firefox add-on;

  User-Agent Switcher 0.7.3.1
  https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/user-agent-switcher/
or
  User Agent Quick Switch 0.5.2.1
  https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/user-agent-quick-switch/
or
  User Agent Overrider 0.4.1
  https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/user-agent-overrider/

to create your own user agent id.

hth.


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 ...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it!
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