Re: What is it with telecommuting?

2008-05-20 Thread Crow T. Robot
Preach on brotha! (working from home today and loving it) On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Scott Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I get contacted by recruiters almost daily.. Why is it that in a depressed housing market, many employers won't even consider telecommuters? I do understand the

Re: What is it with telecommuting?

2008-05-20 Thread Phillip Vector
Well, I have to agree on this. Towards the end of last year, while recovering from getting run over by a bus (Yes, literally), I found a good company that wanted to fly me out to Vegas and work from there. It was in credit card processing (Shift 4), so I could understand the need for security.

Re: What is it with telecommuting?

2008-05-20 Thread Phillip Vector
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 11:44 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Understandably, most places want people on-site. The best tele opportunity I was was one where you went on-site for a month on the company dime and then came in for meetings every quarter. That way there was the

Re: What is it with telecommuting?

2008-05-20 Thread Crow T. Robot
Seth Godin just tackled this subject in his blog: http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2008/05/the-new-standar.html On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Phillip Vector [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 11:44 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Understandably, most

Re: What is it with telecommuting?

2008-05-20 Thread Aaron Rouse
It takes a special type of person to be able to manage people they can not see in person. Some people can manage that just fine and others can not. Telecommuting is one of those things that is slowly picking up but I foresee it taking a long time before it is more mainstream. My biggest hangup

RE: What is it with telecommuting?

2008-05-20 Thread Scott Stewart
I've been telecommuting full-time for about a year now. Aside from the social interaction, I've not seen anything that I can't do that someone in house can. And back to the housing issue, the real estate crisis is finally hitting Raleigh... and my chances of moving are nil... -- Scott Stewart

Re: What is it with telecommuting?

2008-05-20 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
I get contacted by recruiters almost daily.. Why is it that in a depressed housing market, many employers won't even consider telecommuters? I do understand the reasoning behind TSI and above clearance contracts, but non secure and private employers really don't have a valid reason not to.

Re: What is it with telecommuting?

2008-05-20 Thread Steve Runyon
Not to mention the price of gas! Throw in the environmental and traffic-load benefits and we should all be telecommuting a couple of days a week. IMO this is something that will change within the next couple of years - telecommuting 2-3 days per week will just be one of those things that most

What is it with telecommuting?

2008-05-20 Thread Scott Stewart
I get contacted by recruiters almost daily.. Why is it that in a depressed housing market, many employers won't even consider telecommuters? I do understand the reasoning behind TSI and above clearance contracts, but non secure and private employers really don't have a valid reason not to.

Re: What is it with telecommuting?

2008-05-20 Thread Kathryn Butterly
Agreed.  I live just outside of Tampa, where the housing crisis is really bad, and I wouldn't consider moving.  However, I work for three very large clients, one is a large utility, one is a municipality and on is a large financial services firm, and they are all allowing me to telecommute most

Re: What is it with telecommuting?

2008-05-20 Thread Momolu Sancea
Well, first, I don't think that telecommuting will ever be commonplace. The managers managing managers style of hiearchy will limit that. Also, if you are a programmer, you have deadlines to meet and if you don't meet them then you shouldn't be able to telecommute. I have worked remotely for

Re: What is it with telecommuting?

2008-05-20 Thread Phillip Vector
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Jeffry Houser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Communication is easier for many people if it is done in person. I expect this to change in a generation or two, but that is the way it is for many people now. True.. Though IM is a way to communicate with your workers.

RE: What is it with telecommuting?

2008-05-20 Thread Scott Stewart
When proper life cycle development processes are followed, there are deadlines and milestones built in, if your consistently not meeting your deadlines, then the employer can look elsewhere. It's going to come to a point where employers will have to trust their telecommuters, the daily commute is

Re: What is it with telecommuting?

2008-05-20 Thread Aaron Rouse
True, although when they get that trust lets just hope the trust also does not direct them to just sending the work to a telecommuter who will work for pennies on the dollar overseas. :) On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Scott Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When proper life cycle development

Re: What is it with telecommuting?

2008-05-20 Thread Larry C. Lyons
I'm seriously considering getting back into the job market again, and have been talking to a few recruiters and potential employers. Since over the last few years I've been quite fortunate not having to commute, so I've decided at least a 3 day telecommute is a requirement. There is no way that I

RE: What is it with telecommuting?

2008-05-20 Thread Scott Stewart
Hopefully whomever takes the White House in November will realize this and keep these jobs in the US. -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer SSTWebworks 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC. 27616 (919) 874-6229 (home) (703) 220-2835 (cell) -Original Message- From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: What is it with telecommuting?

2008-05-20 Thread Aaron Rouse
heh ... I would not hold my breath too long on it actually happening. On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Scott Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hopefully whomever takes the White House in November will realize this and keep these jobs in the US. -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer

RE: What is it with telecommuting?

2008-05-20 Thread Steve Brownlee
Well, for the most part, you're preaching to the choir here, but here's something to consider: You can't apply the argument unilaterally. When working in a team environment that's collaborative, progressive and energetic, the fastest way to kill it is to have someone working remotely. It simply

RE: What is it with telecommuting?

2008-05-20 Thread Scott Stewart
I think sooner than later, it's going to become a necessity. Or employers are going to have to do something to make it lucrative for someone to relocate. I'm able to brainstorm, ask questions and pass information with other developers quite well via email, teleconference, IM and various other

RE: What is it with telecommuting?

2008-05-20 Thread Steve Brownlee
I agree 99% and that last 1% is that it can't be done as effectively. Yes, you can exchange emails and IM's and talk on the phone, but it just can't replace the face-to-face interaction in some situations. - Steve -Original Message- From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: What is it with telecommuting?

2008-05-20 Thread Don L
Agreed.  I live just outside of Tampa, where the housing crisis is really bad, and I wouldn't consider moving... -- C. Hatton Humphrey Understandably, most places want people on-site. The best tele opportunity I was was one where you went on-site for a month on the company dime and then came

Re: What is it with telecommuting?

2008-05-20 Thread Adam Haskell
When/if Kroger relocates someone they valuate the house and buy it out after 90 or 120 days (something like that, at least they used to do this). Oh and did I mention we are hiring right now if anyone is interested in relocating to a city that is actually flat in housing values instead of