Re: CF Job Market

2008-12-22 Thread Adam Reynolds
Or better still learn Flex/Air. Look at upcoming technologies where the number of skilled individuals is low. Don't go down the I'll learn Java route because honestly you need 3+ years commercial experience. Ravi Gehlot wrote: Dave, As we all know the economy is not doing so well. It

Re: CF Job Market

2008-12-22 Thread Ravi Gehlot
Hello Adam, I couldn't agree more with you. Ravi. Adam Reynolds wrote: Or better still learn Flex/Air. Look at upcoming technologies where the number of skilled individuals is low. Don't go down the I'll learn Java route because honestly you need 3+ years commercial experience.

Re: CF Job Market

2008-12-22 Thread Justin Scott
Adam Reynolds wrote: Or better still learn Flex/Air. Look at upcoming technologies where the number of skilled individuals is low. Don't go down the I'll learn Java route because honestly you need 3+ years commercial experience. You could say that about almost any skilled position in many

Re: CF Job Market

2008-12-21 Thread Ravi Gehlot
Dave, As we all know the economy is not doing so well. It does not matter how much one can say that it is unfair to blame the economy (as I have heard) but there have been many job cuts. Many programmers are out of their jobs because either companies are afraid to expand or just don't

Re: CF Job Market

2008-11-07 Thread Nick de Voil
Software development technology changes too fast for people to rest their laurels and not keep up. That's why I always recommend looking at the past 3 years experience on a candidate's resume since anything after that for the most part may not be helpful to me or the intended client. If

Re: CF Job Market

2008-11-07 Thread Michael Dinowitz
The second issue of the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update was all about CF and OO. I'd say it's a good place to start. -- Michael Dinowitz (http://www.linkedin.com/in/mdinowitz) President: House of Fusion(http://www.houseoffusion.com) Publisher: Fusion Authority

CF Job Market

2008-11-06 Thread Dave Phillips
Hi all, My job will be ending sometime next year due to a merger. I'm a Senior level CF Developer with 10+ years experience. I am wondering what the job market is looking like out there for us senior type CF developers with the economy the way it is here in the US. What I'm concerned

Re: CF Job Market

2008-11-06 Thread Aaron Rouse
I am not looking for work and have not been in a long time but I still continue to get contacted by places looking to hire people with my skill set. To me it does not seem like the market has lesson any and perhaps has even increased. I am sure that greatly depends on where someone is located

RE: CF Job Market

2008-11-06 Thread Michael MacDonald
Subject: RE: CF Job Market I don't think it's all about salary. Most people from my experience who have been using CF for longer periods of time, 10+ years, don't use CF in a way that truly leverages the oop attributes of the language. In fact more times then not the longer someone has been using

Re: CF Job Market

2008-11-06 Thread CF Developer
I hope neither of you are making that a stereotype. I have 10 years as a CF developer, and EVERYTHING I do is OO, and I have a fundamental understanding of it, and use the usual OO frameworks like Mach-ii, ColdSpring, and Transfer (although I have developed OO apps without a front controller,

Re: CF Job Market

2008-11-06 Thread Aaron Rouse
I have been working with it since it basically came out in the 90s. I do some OO and some procedural, it really depends on who I am doing work for. For example some of the places I do work for have their own inhouse frameworks and methodologies which are not OO but that is what you use when you

Re: CF Job Market

2008-11-06 Thread Scott Stewart
I've gotta agree here, I've got 10 plus years, and I'm learning OO. It's the same warped logic that assumes that a degree equals a better developer. CF Developer wrote: I hope neither of you are making that a stereotype. I have 10 years as a CF developer, and EVERYTHING I do is OO, and I have

RE: CF Job Market

2008-11-06 Thread Dave Phillips
approaches, not meet them with 'hesitation and disdain'. It sounds to me like you've just had some bad experiences. Dave -Original Message- From: Michael MacDonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 1:37 PM To: cf-jobs-talk Subject: RE: CF Job Market Michael

Re: CF Job Market

2008-11-06 Thread s. isaac dealey
Scott Stewart wrote: I've gotta agree here, I've got 10 plus years, and I'm learning OO. It's the same warped logic that assumes that a degree equals a better developer. CF Developer wrote: I hope neither of you are making that a stereotype. I have 10 years as a CF developer, and

Re: CF Job Market

2008-11-06 Thread Scott Stewart
The internet is your best friend in learning OO theory. I'm fortunate that my local CFUG has an OO god, in Dan Wilson who speaks at just about every meeting, and is more than willing to answer the kind of stupid questions I'll ask. Anymore I take my laptop with me to interviews, I have CF and

Re: CF Job Market

2008-11-06 Thread Matt Williams
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 1:03 PM, Dave Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My job will be ending sometime next year due to a merger. I'm a Senior level CF Developer with 10+ years experience. I am wondering what the job market is looking like out there for us senior type CF developers with the