On Tue, 19 Sep 2000, Parker, Kevin spake thusly:
Can someone help me with this little puzzle.
I have a three page process structured as follows.
1. Menu page (test_id.cfm)
2. Form (CF)
3. Thank you and confirmation page (and processing template)
When the user gets to the Thank you
Easiest way to do it is using the CFFORM and CFSELECT. Saves having to go
round in a loop using CFOUTPUT.
cfform name="addlog" action="index_log.cfm" target="_self"
table
tr
td
User:nbsp;
/td
td
cfselect name="sel_user" display="Us_UserName" query="qry_users"
Ah ha - thanks Howie.
Will
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Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 1:41 AM
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HTH,
Howie Hamlin - inFusion Project Manager
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On 9/18/00, Mark Adams penned:
You have a space between #getarea# in your second call (#get area# )
Not to mention there is no query name in the cfoutput so CF won't
know what #getarea# is referring to anyway.
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From: "Mark Adams" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newsgroups: cf-talk
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 2:26 AM
Subject: Re: [CF-Talk] RE: Ben Forta, I call on thee (was: What is Fusebox)
fusebox.org
read read read :o)
Is there *anyone* who doesn't like Fusebox!? Certainly
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From: "Kym Kovan" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newsgroups: cf-talk
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 11:40 PM
Subject: Re: [CF-Talk] RE: NAMED.BOOT
Anyone done any DNS modification / creation with CF - named.boot et
al?
Yeaaa. Fun isn't it? :)
Very entertaining, and
It pretty much brings together a set of 'best practices'. Makes for an easy
easy life
Adam Reynolds
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Loads of perl scripts available to do this
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Does Any One Remember what the command is to find out the Meaning of an
Error ID?
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A couple of weeks back I asked on this list about how a Linux CF box
connecting to a separate Linux MySQL server would handle load.
My client's site is currently getting about 6-10 page views per second in
peak time. All images will be stored on a separate media server and I am
building the app
Does anyone have a working example of Ben Forta's custom tag CF_DHTMLMENU?
I downloaded this from the tag gallery and used the example from there and I
when I attempt to test it I get one javascript error after another???
thanks
Jay
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Re: [CF-Talk] RE: Ben Forta, I call on thee (was: What is Fusebox)
Yes, I believe there are people who don't like
That's what I needed. Thanks very much!
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I have just created a new verity collection which is currently empty.
I am trying to fill it with the results of a query, using CFINDEX.
This all works fine on my local server, however when I copy the files to the
production server, and do the same thing, I am given the following error
message:
I would recommend using CVS. I've had really good luck with it. It has a
bit of a learning curve, but there are books available. The website
http://www.cvshome.org is also a good resource for free documentation.
The application is GNUware, so there isn't any cost to acquire it.
Good luck.
You are missing the hash marks:
cfSet #cash-dividend# = 2
If that doesn't work, then why not change the variable to using an
underscore instead of a dash?
cfSet #cash_dividend# = 2
That would work with no problem.
Good luck.
:GeckoX
On Mon, 18 Sep 2000, dave fauth wrote:
Date: Mon, 18
If you've got any heavy use of CFPOP going on, dump that and get CFX_iiPOP3.
We had dozens of hangs a day until we did this. :)
Gregory
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On Tue, 19 Sep 2000 12:10:14 +0100 "McCabe, Kevin"
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Does Any One Remember what the command is to find out the Meaning of
an
Error ID?
I'm using the block of code below to place a random image on a page each
time the page is loaded. However, for some reason, it only seems to swap
the first THREE images out, not all seven.
cfparam name="imageswap" default="#randrange(1,7)#"
cfif #imageswap# is "1"
img
I have packaged applications like that on a cd. I would recommend doing
what I did, which is to list ColdFusion (or whatever web scripting engine
used) as a system requirement. As far as the database is concerned, I've
included a simple MS Access97 database (Access2000 users can still use it
CFQuery only passes a sql statement to the database engine. If the
database can use those types of joins, then it will work fine. Some of
these include MS Access, SQL Server, MySQL, PostgreSQL. If you're using
Oracle, then you can't do joins like this (afaik). You have to use nested
iterations
I want to email the results of a rather large form to someone. I can't
verify that all the form fields have been filled out prior to the submission
(no client side scripting allowed), so how can I do this without a huge
number of :
cfif IsDefined('form.whatever')#form.whatever#/cfif
I end up
Works for me from 1 to 7
but you should change the code to
cfparam name="imageswap" default="#randrange(1,7)#"
cfoutput
img src="home_photo#imageswap#.jpg"
/cfoutput
also read up on Randomize(number)
~Justin
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Oracle does support outer joins with the outer join operator (+)
Nick
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From: GeckoX [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 2:37 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Re: [CF-Talk] Joins with CFQUERY
CFQuery only passes a sql statement to the
Why not do this img
src="home_photocfoutput#randrange(1,7)#/cfoutput.jpg"
Robert Everland III
Web Developer
Dixon Ticonderoga
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From: Les Mizzell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 9:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [CF-Talk] Random
Something like
cfloop list="#form.fieldnames#" index=idx
#idx# = #evaluate(idx)#br
/cfloop
~Justin
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From: "Peter Benoit" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 2:51 PM
Subject: [CF-Talk] Form Submission
I want to email
Hallo Les,
the problem is the randrange function is not really
a random function. It can happen you will get the same
number more than 5-10 times.
If you will get the range set to 1000 (like (1,1000)),
your "randomness" will be better then.
Another point: don't use if, you can simplify your
history.back will always only return you one page back in the history. If
you want to send them two or more pages back, use history.go:
script language="JavaScript1.2"
!--
history.go(-2);
//--
/script
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From: Parker, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:
You are missing the hash marks:
cfSet #cash-dividend# = 2
If that doesn't work, then why not change the variable to using an
underscore instead of a dash?
cfSet #cash_dividend# = 2
That would work with no problem.
Hashes are only needed in CF when evaluating the value of a variable
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I'm trying to see how to read a text file where each field is delimited =
bycomma and each record is
I always get kind of antsy when people talk about Fusebox
like the new revolution or something and how ColdFusion
and CF would be a lot better off with everyone doing +
Fusebox and all of that.
it is a programming methodology, a way to structure your
code nothing more, nothing less. Anyone who
Peter,
You'll probably get several responses suggesting that you use
FORM.FieldNames. Be aware, though, that some form fields are passed even
if they have no value, so you may want to include a check for that:
cfloop list="#form.fieldnames#" index="field"
cfif Evaluate(field) is not ""
Not sure I understand this. Is form.fieldnames a preset list of all the
fieldnames from the submitted form?
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* Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 9:59 AM
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Hi.
I'm developing a site where all images are stored directly in a field in an
Access database. I can upload the files to the server, convert to base 64
and store the data. Only thing is, when I pull the data back out again, how
do I put the data back into some form that can be displayed
Is there *anyone* who doesn't like Fusebox!? Certainly seems
that way..
Sure there is. Personally, I don't use Fusebox, and I'm unlikely to use it
for future projects. I don't know that I'd say I don't "like" it, but it
certainly doesn't fit within my development process, nor that of Fig
I put that in my cfmail tag and got an error:
Error Diagnostic Information
Invalid tag nesting configuration
A CFOUTPUT tag is nested inside a CFMAIL tag with no GROUP= or QUERY=
attributes . This is not allowed. Nesting these tags implies that you want
to use grouped processing. However, the
Yes
~Justin
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From: "Peter Benoit" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 3:27 PM
Subject: RE: [CF-Talk] Form Submission
Not sure I understand this. Is form.fieldnames a preset list of all the
fieldnames from the submitted form?
I'm trying to see how to read a text file where each field is delimited
bycomma and each record is delimited by linebreak. The cffile tag reads
the whole file into a single variable..then how do I break it up into
records, then into separate fields?
A couple of things, you chould read the whole
Right, that's what I get for posting a snippet out of context. Just
remove the cfoutput and /cfoutput.
-David
On Tue, 19 Sep 2000 10:43:25 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Top-Link
Tech (John Ceci)) writes:
CFMAIL by itself does a CFOUTPUT...
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I am having a problem that has been frequently posted but I
Yes! It worked, thank you.
One last question would be formatting the output. The line breakbr
doesn't work in my email client which isn't setup to use HTML email. Is it
possible to put a line break in some other way?
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At 06:47 AM 9/19/00 -0400, you wrote:
Anyone seen this? ...
http://www.allaire.com/handlers/index.cfm?ID=17522Method=FullTitle=Allaire%20Provides%20Outlook%20on%20Third%20Quarter%202000%20Financial%20ResultsCache=False
Michael Dinowitz created a mailing list specialized on the Allaire stock,
Ok here is what I am doing. I found on the taggallery a VB
application to convert a doc to HTML. Thing is I can not get it to work in
Word at all. What I want to do is set it up as an object in CF, but I am
using VBS to try to test it now. Anyone seen where this went wrong?
const
I haven't run the NT version of MySQL but, in general, if the application
will almost exclusively perform read operations on the db then MySQL will be
extremely fast and should be fine. If you have a need for transactions and
stored procedures, and will perform a high number of write operations
We've pretty much decided to use CVS; it's the actual set up of CVS that we
are trying to work out. We don't want this person to accidentally mess up
the CF code and crash the development server or anything. We do have a
development server and a live server but we're trying to figure out if we
Can anyone recommend a top quality cf hosting service within australia (for
you assise on this mailing list) or overseas
I have had experience with intermedia in the past however after a barrage of
negative and critical posts on here about them some months ago I decided to
leave their service. I
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I am looking for someone who has had the same problem
that I am having and has suggestions on how to
overcome it.
PROBLEM: Want to dump results from a query into an
excel file using the
Do it like this:
FORM ACTION="data2.cfm" METHOD="Post"
select name="whatever"
CFOUTPUT query="whatever_query"
option value="#getarea_id#"#get area#
/CFOUTPUT
/select
Also search your CFDOCS directory for CFQUERY. You'll find lots of cool tricks on how
to output data.
I'd love to do that as well. At one point a year ago or so, some company on this list
came up with a java thingee which would run ColdFusion pages. And then they decided to
call it JRUN and well from that point on the idea of making it portable I guess flew
out the window.
So, perhaps if
You shouldn't be using variable names like that in the first place.
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I want this book. And I'm sure many other people do as well.
You should have something on your web site to start collecting orders (or at least
names and email addresses) like RIGHT NOW!!!
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At 10:39 AM -0400 9/19/00, Dave Watts wrote:
At Fig Leaf, our goals are not to build CF-centric applications, but n-tier
applications. We partition application logic between the application server
(CF), the database, the client, and potentially object tiers between the
application server and the
Why?
Why not just send them to the Menu page in the first place? (cflocation)
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OK - I have a table of domain names, which I've populated a Select with.
Fine. But I would like to run a check as follows:
cfif fileexists("#filedir#db.#domain_name#") IS true
...which would exclude those domains in the Select. Any ideas?
Well, generally I just keep a field in the
I'm sorry, but since when was Front Page or any other WYSIWYG editor considered a
"high-level" development tool?
And by the way - I can code a site in the Fusebox style faster than you can code it
straight any day of the week. And I know the other Fusebox coders would say the same.
Don't I
html
font size=3There are many things about the Fusebox quot;standardquot;
that I don't like, and don't use. However, the idea of channeling every
page request through ONE handler file (index.cfm) is a fantastic idea
which has made my life easier not only in Cold Fusion but in Perl CGI
I have a Dbase table on one server (no, no other DB types are possible right
now for reasons that would take several paragraphs to explain). We recently
moved offices and replaced some of the older servers with nice new ones.
Anyway, here is the config before the move:
Well first off, you're not an idiot. But the code you created sucks. Is that fair?
Anyway,
All you really need to do is name your images 1-7, create a random number between 1-7
and call an image file.
Here's how with 4 lines of code:
cfset imagenum = RandRange(1,7)
cfoutput
img
How do you use CVS developing on Windows PCs to a Unix Cold Fusion server?
At 08:26 AM 9/19/00 -0500, GeckoX wrote:
I would recommend using CVS. I've had really good luck with it. It has a
bit of a learning curve, but there are books available. The website
http://www.cvshome.org is also a good
I have a few pages where the java applets I was given misbehave when viewed via a Mac
and its IE 4.5, and since we don't need them necessarily I want to block out that area
of code for displaying on the Mac platform until a final decision is made.
What have you guys used to parse out the
Can we see the template that has the query?
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Subject: Re: [CF-Talk] Incorrect use of CFPARAM?
That's the way it should
I believe he means "High-Level" in the programming sense (e.g. abstraction).
In which case, FrontPage is about as high-level as you can get.
Benjamin S. Rogers
Web Developer, c4.net
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From: Mark Warrick [mailto:[EMAIL
Really, all the excess overhead...c'mon! Afraid of having to update the index.cfm
page every time you do a function or "fuse"? It takes another 30 seconds, possibly
less if you cut and paste for a new function. Yeah it seems like overhead, but in the
end it becomes easier to manage and see
This would be a great solution for us too. I would like to go one step
further and be able to run crystal reports webserver CF pages all from a
CD. We currently do a lot of reporting work for the Tel Co's would really
like to make a CD web based application without requiring anything more then
That's exactly what I wanted to do, but I may not be able to (it's not up to
me..) hence why I was looking for another solution. Out of interest, I
wonder how you would go about to solve that previous problem. I spent a
good hour on it but couldn't see how it'd work - anyone else bored enough
If I have an embed tag in a .cfm page, and that embed tag calls a
sizeable media file, will a CF thread be tied up until that entire media
file is downloaded?
Any knowledge on the subject is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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Hey people,
I was wondering if anyone has any project
Something like http://www.browserhawk.com will do what you want. There's
also a custom tag lurking around called cf_browserCheck which will do
similar stuff, but isn't quite as fully featured.
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Dear List:
I'm going to give my faithful SAG Dual Pentium 90 (Yikes!)
a major transplant and make it my SQL7 Server.
I was thinking of IBM 9GB Ultra 160 SCSI ULTRASTAR 10K RPM 36LZX 68PIN hard
drives.
Any comments on HD?
How about MB recommendations?
best, paul
I am currently running a verity full-text search through an ACCESS database
under CF 4.0 on a production site.
Every once in a while, the full-text search just stops returning any
results. Then, I have to delete the collection, reboot the server, delete
the lck file, delete the collection
There is a winders client, from what I understand. I'm not sure how it
would handle file differences.
At 01:03 PM 9/19/00 -0400, you wrote:
How do you use CVS developing on Windows PCs to a Unix Cold Fusion server?
At 08:26 AM 9/19/00 -0500, GeckoX wrote:
I would recommend using CVS. I've had
Can I second that?
We do work on a largish FuseBox app and I had to write a
chat client (scary using HTTP in and of itself) and..
most of the pages including the header and footer is
overhead not only that it just made it silly so now
chat is a bastard child of sorts that skirts around
several
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Re: RE: [CF-Talk] RE: Ben Forta, I call on thee (was: What is Fusebox)How
about we take this debate over to [EMAIL
Try something like this:
cfparam name="field1" default=""
cfparam name="field2" default=""
cfparam name="field3" default=""
cfparam name="field4" default=""
cfparam name="go" default=""
cfparam name="missingfields" default=""
cfoutput
form action="#script_name#" method="post"
input
font size=3There are many things about the Fusebox quot;standardquot;
that I don't like, and don't use. However, the idea of channeling every
page request through ONE handler file (index.cfm) is a fantastic idea
which has made my life easier not only in Cold Fusion but in Perl CGI
test
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At 02:54 PM 9/19/00 +0100, you wrote:
Works for me from 1 to 7
but you should change the code to
cfparam name="imageswap" default="#randrange(1,7)#"
cfoutput
img src="home_photo#imageswap#.jpg"
/cfoutput
I've actually done something similar with a database so whoever managed the
rest of the
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Nope. CF process the entire page spits it out the the browser.
Since the embed tag is processed on the client side, the CF server's
thread will be released immediately after the HTML is sent out.
After that, the browser will make a second request
I support an internal web team for the Navy. The adopted standard for
corporate databases at this site is Oracle, but we have a bunch of little
access based web apps that we need to upsize rather quickly and upsizing to
Oracle is not an option due to development time. We have chosen to upsize
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I don't think it would change the way CF was viewed, or revolutionize
CF or anything. But it sure would make maintaining other people's
code easier :) And in my experience it forces people to develop in a
little more structured and thought-out of a
t
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On the other hand, trying to do things with JavaScript means dealing with
a. incompatibilies between various versions of IE
b. incompatibilities between various versions of Netscape
c. incompatibilities between IE and Netscape
d. incompatibilities among the other lesser used GUI based browsers
e.
What's wrong is you can't embed the logic you're trying to embed into a CFMAIL tag.
You've got to figure something else out.
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I have a web page that displays a list of SQL databases in a select box. The
user selects a database and a table, and is taken to a page where the
information is displayed from the database. At least, that's what I want to do.
I can't figure out how to get the list of columns to be displayed in
Hi Folks,
Suddenly, every app that we have that has an access back-end is throwing the
following error:
ODBC Error Code = 08004 (Data source rejected establishment of connection)
[Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] Too many client tasks.
Thoughts?
-Deanna
Whatever you type inbetween the cfmail header and closing cfmail tag will display
exactly as you typed in as though it were pre text. None of the HTML will be
rendered unless you turn on the HTML attribute in the CFMAIL header.
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I am attempting to use this:
CFCOOKIE NAME="profID" VALUE="#profID#" EXPIRES="NEVER"
to set a cookie on a page. It is not setting the cookie. I'm not sure what
I'm doing wrong but it is aggravating me to no end.
Here is the block of code the above tag is in:
cfelse
cfset profID = 0
Ok. I've not really used cf4.5 before. It seems to put all cfmails in the
spool and NEVER send them out. :) I vaugely recall a fix to this being
mentioned months or years ago. Anyone have a link? :)
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I am having a problem that has been frequently posted but I
haven't seen a solution yet.
My suspicion is that it is Windows 2000 related.
Running 4.5 on Windows 2000 the scheduler refuses to work,
other than when manually run it from the Scheduled Tasks screen.
I don't know if this is
PROBLEM: Want to dump results from a query into an
excel file using the cfcontent tag. This code worked
in CF 3.0 but after upgrading to 4.5 it dumps all the
data into one cell. What is causing this and how do I
get the data to dump into separate cells?
I have attached the code. It
I don't know if this would meet your needs ... or if there are better
options out there to do the same thing.
But if you need a database app on a CD, it might be worthwhile to look into
FileMaker's Developers Edition. It allows you to create run-time apps. It's
a great way to give a user
Simple answer: No.
Explanation: The request for your CFM page and the request for the embedded
object are two totally different requests. (Even taking into account the
case of a persistant HTTP connection, it's still a distinct request.) And,
since you aren't using CF to generate the embedded
Monoliths will be all the rage next year :-)
Howie
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Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 1:57 PM
Subject: RE: [CF-Talk] RE: Ben Forta, I call on thee (was: What is Fusebox)
Actually it turns me off for
I was wondering if anyone has any project management applications they
have
built that I can look at for just some ideas on how and what people
are
building. I'm not talking about code but examples online, that I can
check
out.
http://www.onproject.com/
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Actually it turns me off for specifically because it does use this
old
outmoded monolithic view of the things. I prefer a more
encapsulated object-based way of coding.
I'd be quite interested to hear how you are doing this. If you had
time to
Hi All:
I'm using Cold Fusion to keep my site alive and kickin' ... What I want to
know is how do u generate automatic e-mails everyday with certain
information on ity to a whole teamwithout asking for it??
Ur ideas will be very helpful ...right about now !
Thanx,
Sonia
And by the way - I can code a site in the Fusebox style
faster than you can code it straight any day of the week.
And I know the other Fusebox coders would say the same.
There are two problems with your proposition.
1. Faster != better.
You may be able to code something faster, but that
Dave,
You know, I think you guys at Figleaf set the standard for what client
interface should be and your applications are certainly the goal of
programmers everywhere. I also like the thought process behind what you
guys do. And I can't imagine there is anyone that does not appreciate all
the
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