Just starting to mess around with CFC's and have a few questions:
1) Can the template set a session variable and the CFC read the values
from that session?And can a CFC set a session variable and the
template then read those variables .. I have been having some trouble
with this and wanted to
On Win2k / CF5, rather than having everyone login to an Intranet site
(in this case a new login is forced daily) how reliable is it to
identify the user from cgi.AUTH_USER ?
IIS is set:
Anonymous access: No
Basic Authentication: No
Integrated Windows authentication: Yes
Users are on MSIE on PC
Richard Meredith-Hardy wrote:
On Win2k / CF5, rather than having everyone login to an Intranet site
(in this case a new login is forced daily) how reliable is it to
identify the user from cgi.AUTH_USER ?
IIS is set:
Anonymous access: No
Basic Authentication: No
Integrated Windows
Michael Dinowitz wrote:
checking amount of attempts per IP - ip can be forged
I'm not sure what you mean by this. If an HTTP request is coming from my
There's connection and reported connection IP. I remember back in the days there
was a security bug in CFHTTP where you could 'control' the IP
Kevin Graeme wrote:
This has always been a problem with the web.Not only do you not have
physical security of the device, you can not even be sure that it is the
device you are thinking it may be.
Isn't this kind of thing exactly what Kerberos was designed for?
It is one of the things that
Just a FYI. There is a mailing list at cfc.org
http://www.cfczone.org/ http://www.cfczone.org/ where cfcs are
discussed in depth. I think Raycamden also posted a link to an archive
somewhere. Finally to the original poster - what version of CF are you
using?
Kola
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One possible solution would be to have a version of the delete method,
which does not wrap the delete in cftransaction, e.g.
deleteNoTransaction(). You could then call this version. I know its not
ideal as it leads to code duplication and I'm not sure if transactions
can even span cfc calls but
On Friday 03 Oct 2003 03:49 am, Michael Dinowitz wrote:
You can fake the reported IP. I had mentioned this as a possible spam thing
and I've actually seen it in the wild with spam from 2 different places.
checking amount of attempts per IP - ip can be forged
You can't fake an IP and
Jim,
There are several approaches one can take here. One of those
possibilities is to utilize the Composite Design Pattern (google will
give you endless examples including:
http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-09-2002/jw-0913-designpatterns_p.h
tml) perhaps in combination with the Strategy
there is a problem being about connection failure of MS sql servers
in different subnet.
I installed the 3 servers on the same network and registered the
servers and configured for replication on LAN .Because the
registration was very important for replication. there was no
problem.everthing
ilknur bodur wrote:
there is a problem being about connection failure of MS sql servers
in different subnet.
I installed the 3 servers on the same network and registered the
servers and configured for replication on LAN .Because the
registration was very important for replication. there
Correct.
REmoving those CFOUTPUT tags has the tables displaying just fine in
Dreamweaver MX 2004.
Once I put the tags back in, it's messed up again.
Is there anything I'm missing here? I use this same code in several
other sites, wrapped with the CFOUTPUT tags, and I've never noticed
this
If that is the case, it is fairly simple to set up the SQL servers to listen on
a unique port number away from 1433.
I assume you have Remote desktop access to the servers?
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What about if you just put them around the #articleid#?
Of course, what you're doing isn't really improper nesting since the CF
server ignores the HTML tags and the CFML tags disappear before the HTML is
parsed. But to help the human eye, I personally generally try to avoid
improper nesting of
Maybe the simplest answer (certainly one I've adopted in some cases since CF
has become more sensitive to nested transactions) is to leave it up to the
implementor of your cfc. Just like it's up to the developer to wrap cflock
around a cffile.
Matt.
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From: Kola
A small number of users of our web site seem to be having problems with pop-up
windows, namely code that executes in the pop-up seems to have mis-layed all
their session information, and therefore asks them to login again.
Is there a known CF (or IE ?) issue releating to this at all ? A quick
OK, thanks
What is a salt?
Jochem van Dieten wrote:
Richard Meredith-Hardy wrote:
On Win2k / CF5, rather than having everyone login to an Intranet site
(in this case a new login is forced daily) how reliable is it to
identify the user from cgi.AUTH_USER ?
IIS is set:
Anonymous
On Friday 03 Oct 2003 13:00 pm, Thomas Chiverton wrote:
Is there a known CF (or IE ?) issue releating to this at all ? A quick
It appeared to be an IE issue, the following made the problem go away:
In IE, tools-options,privicy, advanced.
Tick override, set both 1st and 3rd party to 'prompt'.
OK
Richard Meredith-Hardy wrote:
OK, thanks
What is a salt?
A random string to prevent replay attacks. See RFC 2617 for
Digest Security (it is comparable to what they call nonce).
Jochem
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Hello All,
There is a tool for IIS called Streamcatcher that can catch every http
request and make changes to it.It is not compatible with Apache, does
anyone know if a similar tool exists in the apache world?
Thanks!
- Alex
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On Friday 03 Oct 2003 14:06 pm, Demarco, Alex wrote:
There is a tool for IIS called Streamcatcher that can catch every http
request and make changes to it.It is not compatible with Apache, does
anyone know if a similar tool exists in the apache world?
I've used Burp from portswigger.net with
I can pull up some posts sent to a closed list from a few
years back where there was an issue with CFHTTP. Seems that
you could forge what would show up in the CGI vars using it.
That 'feature' was yanked really fast. There's 2 different
things here. The first is the reported information
Has anybody tried this FriendlyURL Servlet.
http://www.spike.org.uk/go/friendly-urls
If yes please email me some sites whicha re using that.
Ketan Patel
G3 Technology Group, LLC
http://www.instantposition.com
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Thanks Ill look up the patterns youve suggested (although Ill not
guarantee to understand them!) but I doubt that Ill be changing
anything significant this late in the game.
As for the service-oriented CFC could you explain it a bit more?I
thought thats what I had in by
www.ukcfug.org
Spike does good stuff.
Stephen
Ketan Patel wrote:
Has anybody tried this FriendlyURL Servlet.
http://www.spike.org.uk/go/friendly-urls
If yes please email me some sites whicha re using that.
Ketan Patel
G3 Technology Group, LLC
http://www.instantposition.com
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Thanks. it's not really an option for me however.
The basic structure of this system is that the broker controls all of
the persistence layer-stuff.If I were to try and have to track I
outside of it all hell would break loose.For example the system works
perfectly well with both an XML-based
If anyone else is working with these features and hasn't found a solution, I
got together with some other Flash developers and posted a working example
of how to consume the RDBMSResolver packet from Flash with a CFC. See
macromedia.flash.data_integration. XUpdate will be next.
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yes it is cf 5.
i suspect you may be right. will try some tweaking as soon as i kick this flu.
thanks!
steph
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In reference to the JAVA question, we have developed an in-house java routine.He have such a large investment in our RPG programing, that we did not want to re-invent the business logic on a different server (i.e. doing SQL calls)Our interface actually sends a request to a specific program and
Hi,
I am ready to install this weekend new CFMX6.1 on Windows 2000, IIS5.0 . My
question is do I need to patch/upgrade anything after I install new CFMX6.1.
Also I needsome tips on hidden features of CFMX or reference to any site.
Any specific details I need to worry about after the installation.
I've been watching this thread, and it's still not clear to me if we're talking about using the 'web services' created by allowing remote invocation of a CFC in ColdFusion or web services in general.
There are many, many choices for securing web services -- though many of them don't really work
There's connection and reported connection IP. I remember
back in the days there was a security bug in CFHTTP where
you could 'control' the IP that was reported in the CGI vars.
That would be purely dependent on your web server, even if there were a way
to write a specific header. I don't
Hi,
is anyone aware of a CFX tag free or for purchase that will ring a mobile
phone.
We have a modem in place here for doing the task, its just getting a go
between CF to the modem.
Our software development team are looking into this although they asked to
put a feeler out to the community.
Thanks for your help, Dave. I think I have come across some of your
PowerPoint presentations or ColdFusion literature in the past.While I am
at it - thanks for your help before too!
After days of troubleshooting - with help from multiple lists and a couple
of Network guys here in Charlotte, I
John,
Most mobile phones accept e-mail.If you are just trying to get a message
to the phone, use cfmail and send it to the phone.
(I know not all do and not all people have the service, but lately all the
cell packages I have seen include e-mail)
Steve
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From:
nice idea, but no love.
thanks!
Stephenie
If you're still having trouble, instead of CFFILE, try this
cfsavecontent variable=myDoc.
cfinclude template=myDoc.txt
/cfsavecontent
Now parse your file.
H.
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I suspect this will only be really feasible via a C++ based CFX
leveraging the Telephone API (TAPI) if you are on Windows (not sure of
the solution to use on a Unix based OS). I know there is some C++ code
floating about to do this (try google) and all it would require is
wrapping it up in a CFX
What would you call it? CF_Telemarketer? :-)
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From: John McCosker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 10:08 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Customg tag that will ring a phone
Hi,
is anyone aware of a CFX tag free or for purchase that will ring a
John
Take a look at
http://www.esacall.com/index.cfm?main=18021
Thanks
JT
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From: John McCosker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 8:08 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Customg tag that will ring a phone
Hi,
is anyone aware of a CFX tag free or for purchase
What if the modem has a command-line interface you could invoke directly
from the OS?Then it could just be a matter of sending ATDT and whatnot
via CFEXECUTE, wouldn't it?
- Jim
Andre Mohamed wrote:
I suspect this will only be really feasible via a C++ based CFX
leveraging the Telephone API
On Friday, October 3, 2003, at 01:14 AM, Jim Davis wrote:
However when I do this (as I am) from with the parents delete() method
(making the call sorta recursive-like) I get the error we all know and
love: Cannot nest CFTRANSACTIONS
The approach I sometimes take is to have a set of components
Jim,
That certainly sounds like a valid and potentially much simpler
approach.
Andr
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From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 October 2003 16:30
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Customg tag that will ring a phone
What if the modem has a command-line interface
What would you call it? CF_Telemarketer? :-)
Very Funny,
Its interesting, yet completely bizare,
we provide certain services to the Vehicle Haulage industry,
this particular client has asked about Managers getting phonecalls to their
phones if a vehicle has remained stationary
after a period
There used to be some scriptable telcom utilities.You could just replace
the phone number in the script and cfexecute the telcom program.Maybe even
hyperterminal.
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From: Andre Mohamed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 10:34 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject:
Hello list:
We run a Novell network here at work.I use CF (currently version 5 Pro / Windows) to connect our Intranet to a couple of remote servers.These servers are still on network.I just need to connect to some datasources (Access) that reside on those servers.
I can map the drives on the
On Friday, October 3, 2003, at 11:07 AM, John McCosker wrote:
is anyone aware of a CFX tag free or for purchase that will ring a
mobile
phone.
I have no idea if this is any help or not, but it might be worth
checking out the Java Telephony API:
http://java.sun.com/products/jtapi/index.html
Thanks for that Christian, this could be a good lead,
I had no idea this API existed.
J
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From: Christian Cantrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 October 2003 16:53
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Customg tag that will ring a phone
On Friday, October 3, 2003, at 11:07
(gonna try this again)
Hello list:
We run a Novell network here at work.I use CF (currently version 5 Pro /
Windows) to connect our Intranet to a couple of remote servers.These
servers are still on network.I just need to connect to some datasources
(Access) that reside on those servers.
I
If your mobile phone can take email messages... cfmail 'em?Mine rings
when I get a server alert via cfmail/email.
Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MSB Designs, Inc.http://mysecretbase.com http://mysecretbase.com/
1) I seem to rembmer some problems with CFCs accessing shared and persistant
scopes in CFMX 6.0. Do upgrade to 6.1 to make the best use of persistant
scopes and to more easily put your CFC in a persistant scope.
2) You can have a method interact with your session variables, but since
they are
Yep, also aware of this, although not all phones ring when getting text
alert.
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From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 October 2003 17:04
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Customg tag that will ring a phone
If your mobile phone can take email messages... cfmail
I am maintaining a site that has been working fine.We just upgraded to MX and one of my pages has stopped functioning.Basicaly, I am getting the following error
The system has attempted to use an undefined value, which usually indicates a programming error, either in your code or some system
I think you're looking for mod_rewrite, which is included with the apache
distributions, though I believe you have to turn it on.Check out the docs
for your version (1.3 or 2.0), there is a pretty complete tutorial on using
it.
-Original Message-
From: Demarco, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL
sigh
If anybody's so inclined...
http://charlie.griefer.com/question.html
:)
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From: Charlie Griefer
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: problems maintaining db connection to remote server
(gonna try this again)
Hello list:
We
Does anyone know why CFMX is so slow?I am running CFMX 6.01 on iPlanet
6 from a solaris 2.8 sparc station with 2 750MHz cpu's and 2gig of ram.
The CF server will pin one of our cpu's and only one of them at 50% and
will never go into a sleep mode.It takes the server about a day to
get to 50%, but
but lately all the cell packages I have seen include e-mail
If cell telephone cies really expect us to use this service, they better really do something to prevent
spam and virus to spread. With more than 30 megs I receive every day just with ONE virus (Swen or something),
I just wonder what I
(gonna try this again)
If you really want to get answers, better start a new thread of your own than just reply another one with a new subject.
Many people just don't open threads if they have no skill in what's in the subject.
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IMHO this little square making trouble might be an ASCII null character.
A null character is a byte with 0 value. Although it is a standard character in the ASCII code,
CF will treat it as an end of string. That would explain why your text gets truncated.
So you might check if indeed there are
its your config.we get hit about 10,000 times a day on windows box and
CFMX ROCKS.
what could be wrong?im sure a *nix person on the list will help, but there
are many config settings
that *might* be wrong, but don't fret, its your config not CFMX.
...tony
tony weeg
senior web applications
hi claude:
the (gonna try again) wasn't due to a lack of responses...but the fact that more than half of my post seemed to get cut off (even the 2nd time).e-mailed Michael off list to see whether or not it's a list hiccup or a charlie hiccup.
:)
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From: Claude
Hello there...
I have created a search that searches up to 5 different collections.Depending on the users' permissions they can see certain documents that the search pulls up. I have a couple of questions on maxrows and also I want to put links on the bottom to go the the next 20 results.
First
Jim,
If you're already doing different stuff for the database and XML, can you
push the transaction out to the database? In other words, can you run a
trigger that ondelete cascades the delete to the children?
-Deanna
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To: CF-Talk
Ray, check your ColdFusion logs to see in there are any pointers in there.
Kind Regards - Mike Brunt
Original Message ---
its your config.we get hit about 10,000 times a day on windows box and
CFMX ROCKS.
what could be wrong?im sure a *nix person on the list will help, but
No errors, nothing I can see.No timeouts, nothing like that.Any
suggestions of what pointers I can look for, because I don't see
anything out of the ordinary in there.
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From: Mike Brunt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 10:53 AM
To: CF-Talk
While browsing the entertainment area of the MSN website yesterday I
noticed a picture of a pretty and somewhat familiar lady. Doing a quick
google I came upon her website, which also sells her workout video, and
was pleasantly surprised to find that cindymargolis.com was done in
ColdFusion
John said:
is anyone aware of a CFX tag free or for purchase that will ring a mobile
phone.
I can't help you directly, but I have a pretty strong memory of seeing
Jeremy Allaire demonstrate this functionality (although maybe to a land
phone instead of mobile), probably at the ColdFusion
I remember, during my job search last year, coming across an ad on
Monster.com or Hotjobs or something that was for a CF developer at an
adult website conglomerate in Sacramento, CA.I wouldn't normally
consider working in that industry, but they were paying upwards of
$150,000 (!!), but
Most cell phones today have text messaging. Text messages may be sent to
a phone via an email address. Just create a db of these addresses and
use cfmail to accomplish the task.
Cutter
John McCosker wrote:
Hi,
is anyone aware of a CFX tag free or for purchase that will ring a mobile
Earlier I made a breakthrough and now I am lost again.I am trying to
figure out this listener thingy...
Troy
Barney Boisvert wrote:
The point of putting the variable in as a property is so that you
never have
to reference the application scope from your code.The entire
framework is
in
Just as a warning to others, never, ever, and I mean ever, pass the name
of a file to load via the query string, at least w/o doing some checking
first.
http://cindymargolis.com/main.cfm?PAGE=applicationFrames=NoSIDE=2
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Lets put it this way before I ask the thread to be moved off of CF-Talk; For
that money, I'd take it!
I remember, during my job search last year, coming across an ad on
Monster.com or Hotjobs or something that was for a CF developer at an
adult website conglomerate in Sacramento, CA.I
I normally use verisign as a payment gateway, but we have a new client
with a NON-US merchant account (swedish actually) and need to find a
reliable CF-Friendly overseas gateway.
can anyone recommend one, and a website with info if possible?
Thanks all,
-chris.alvarado
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Actually CFMX 6.1 runs much faster than CF 6.0.
There must be a long running query or a mis-configuration somewhere.Your CF
log files should give you a clue as to what is happening.
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Have you read the technotes on MM's site about the DB driver issues
that can cause this type of behavior? There are a couple of them, and
they are very detailed...more than I could summarize here.
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Friday, October 3, 2003, 1:03:12 PM, you wrote:
RB Does anyone
Does anyone know why CFMX is so slow?I am running CFMX 6.01 on iPlanet
6 from a solaris 2.8 sparc station with 2 750MHz cpu's and 2gig of ram.
The CF server will pin one of our cpu's and only one of them at 50% and
will never go into a sleep mode.It takes the server about a day to
get to 50%, but
Hello list:
We run a Novell network here at work.I use CF (currently version 5 Pro / Windows) to connect our Intranet to a couple of remote servers.These servers are still on network.I just need to connect to some datasources (Access) that reside on those servers.
I can map the drives on the
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/security/security_zone/mpsb03-06.html
2. Our servers host many application, many of which do not use error
handling (can't control this). It has been helpful to have a default
error handler in place that actually notifies me of errors instead of
just silently
http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/tn18339.htm
You should take several full thread dumps with a small interval in between them.Then to examine the thread dump, look for JRun Proxy Service threads beginning with jrpp-xxx where xxx is a number and jrpp-xxx is the thread
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Dave's original message:
I have recently installed a custom default error handlers (via CF
Admin) on several servers (CF5/NT4, CFMX6.1/Linux) and noticed
that it seems to be taking precedence over any error templates
set with CFERROR TYPE=REQUEST as well as most error handling
done with
Not quite the same thing, but VoiceXML can handle the whole telephony side of things. Downside is that you need a VoiceXML server. Upside is that you just dynamically generate a CFML page of XML and you're set.
I've used Voxeo as an outsourced VoiceXML (as well as their proprietary CallXML)
Hello All:
CFLAP Issue:
It seems for any entry in our LDAP server that has a / forward slash in
it, blows an error when it is part of a variable passed in the URL.
Does anyone have any ideas? The the case below the foward slash U%2FG is
between the U and G.
This is the CF error:
An error has occured while trying to execute query :[LDAP: error code
32 - No Such Object].
James Blaha wrote:
Hello All:
CFLAP Issue:
It seems for any entry in our LDAP server that has a / forward slash in
it, blows an error when it is part of a variable passed in
Dave,
On 10/3/2003 at 14:57, you wrote:
DW This is the expected behavior on CF 4 and newer versions. When you specify a
DW site-wide error handler, it takes precedence over CFERROR TYPE=REQUEST.
DW This is very good, as the site-wide error handler can actually do things,
DW while the error page
Does anyone know of the MIME type for Window Media files with regards
to the CFFILE tag and uploading? [.wmv]
Come to think of it, is there a complete list of MIME types for CF
and the CFFILE tag?
Thanks...Che
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Che Vilnonis wrote:
Does anyone know of the MIME type for Window Media files with regards
to the CFFILE tag and uploading? [.wmv]
Microsoft's recommended Mime-Type for WMV files is video/x-ms-wmv.Note
that it is not a Mime-Type that is recognized in any standard (hence the
x- prefix).You can
It's been a
while since I've muddled with Kerberos so I don't know if there's a
clean
way to handle it for a web application. I know there are clients you can
install that will handle the tickets, but I don't know what it would
take to
integrate them on the client side with the browser.
Thanks Mosh...
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From: Mosh Teitelbaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 4:08 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFFILE MIME Types
Che Vilnonis wrote:
Does anyone know of the MIME type for Window Media files with regards
to the CFFILE tag and uploading?
All,
I would like to update my post. I've ruled out the URL encoding issue.
For some odd reason my issue now seems to be when the forward slash is
passed through the START attribute.
Are there any CFLDAP coders here.. help please..
We are running a Sun One Directory Server 5.2 on a Win2K
Personally i am not a big fan of Client Variables due to DB Serialize/De-Serialize Overhead
and not being able to store complex variables etc...
Just Curious..
What would be the CF Developer Consensus to using Client Variables Or using Session Variables?
Thanks,
Joe Eugene
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sessions
Paul Giesenhagen
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From: Joe Eugene
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 3:29 PM
Subject: Session Variables Or Client Variables (Pros Cons - Poll)
Personally i am not a big fan of Client Variables due to DB Serialize/De-Serialize
Joe, we have used Session variables more than Client.We typically use duplicate to copy in and out of request so all but those var reads and writes can be done in request scope avoiding extensive locking.Obviously load-balancing can be an issue but setting sticky can mitigate that.So the only real
In CF5, client variables are the only option when clustering/load-balancing.
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From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 4:30 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Session Variables Or Client Variables (Pros Cons - Poll)
Personally i am not a big fan
I use a custom system, modelled on client variables.Everything is stored
in a DB, but serialization and deserialization is automatic (excepting CFCs,
though that'll change).The biggest advantage is simple clustering, becuase
you needn't worry about session replication, and you can also access that
Hi James,
This is a wild shot, but try adding quotes around the value:
START=ou=Newly Enrolled U/G Students,ou=Center For Academic
Excellence,ou=White Pages,o=WhitePages
Eventhough the / character isn't considered to be special according to RFC 1485, your LDAP server may have a special meaning
Yes, you can manipulate your session variables all in one place and copy them to variable/request scope for viewing purposes.
I agree, the down-side is fail over in versions where you cannot do session replication.
So its kinda hard to choose cause it seems session/client vars both seems to have
I'm probably missing something - but it seems to be that this would
require a lot of outside knowledge on the part of the CFCs.In other
words they would have to know to loop and call and whatnot these
entities specially in certain circumstances.I'm trying (but it looks
like I'll fail) to make
What custom system are we talking about? Custom DB with data write and read with SQL for every request?
Are you by-passing CF Serialization/De-Serialization?
Matt.. mentioned something about using a local file system to do this.
Curious.. is this any effective than CF Client var?
Joe
-
Yeah, custom DB, with a read in Application.cfm and a write in
OnRequestEnd.cfm.I use the 'clientvars' scope, since even if you turn off
client variables, you still can't use the 'client' name.After th read, any
complex data is unWDDXed for me automatically, and then reWDDXed before the
write, so
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