Re: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Mark Drew
I must say I havent touched it, it used to work, I never needed it myself (different deployment process) I want Adobe to release the API to the RDS plugin so I can do more of a team synchronising with RDS servers and the same with FTP. More like how Dreamweaver does it. There are SO many

Re: Session Variables lost when moving from http to https - Please help!

2006-06-04 Thread cf coder
Hello Will, I am storing query objects in request and session variables. I can't send this info over the url query. The https link links to a different domain because my site is hosted by a company that provides the access to shared secure server. I understand the point made by someone earlier

Re: Session Variables lost when moving from http to https - Please help!

2006-06-04 Thread cf coder
Josh, its not just the request scope variables that are undefined, I tried dumping the application and session scope variables but got the same undefined error message. -cfcoder ~| Message:

Re: Session Variables lost when moving from http to https - Please help!

2006-06-04 Thread James Holmes
No, you pass the SESSION.URLTOKEN in the URL, not the data. As long as you are staying on the same machine, the session will then persist across domains. On 6/4/06, cf coder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Will, I am storing query objects in request and session variables. I can't send this info

Re: how (the heck) to call functions on a jsp page?

2006-06-04 Thread stylo stylo
i don't see where that code uses anything but java.util.zip. is there more to this? Two other pages, but they just call those two functions. Apparently whoever wrote it wasn't too swift in java. It appears to be working in a quick test! Thank you so much! Would have taken me forever to get

RE: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Snake
I also miss the HomeSite customizable toolbar too. Not just for the default buttons (the table wizard was very handy), but the ability to add my own and create VTML tag editor for my own tags and what not. CFE has very few CFML/HTML options on the toolbar. But perhaps you could also enlighten me

RE: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Snake
I have to disagree with that. Most developers (cf or otherwise) do not use every part of the language every day, so therefore you do not know all the functions, methods, attributes off the top of your head (unless your just a total nerd), this is why editors like homesite are handy, so you do not

RE: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Snake
I don't think you can turn a mohawk into a mullet. -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 June 2006 01:44 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Studio 5 You'd also get a mullett if they'd do it 4 ya ;) ~Dave the disruptor~

RE: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Snake
There is no better OS than the one I am using as far as I am concerned. -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 June 2006 01:46 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Studio 5 some people do more than cfm editing and some ppl choose to use a better os as well ~Dave the

Re: Session Variables lost when moving from http to https - Please help!

2006-06-04 Thread cf coder
I tried that. I passed #session.URLToken# in the url query string but I still got an error when I tried to dump the session scope variable, cfdump var=#session# Any ideas? PS: The main site domain and the secure site doamin names are not the same although the codebase is the same.

Re: Session Variables lost when moving from http to https - Please help!

2006-06-04 Thread James Holmes
Did you pass the token in every URL on the secure site? On 6/4/06, cf coder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried that. I passed #session.URLToken# in the url query string but I still got an error when I tried to dump the session scope variable, cfdump var=#session# Any ideas? PS: The main

Re: Session Variables lost when moving from http to https - Please help!

2006-06-04 Thread cf coder
On viewbasket.cfm (wwwroot\order\viewbasket.cfm) I added the following code: tdform action=https://securesite/proceedToSecuresite.cfm?#session.URLToken#; method=postinput type=Image src=proceed.gif border=0/form/td I didn't include it in every single page. I thought I'll first test if this

Re: Session Variables lost when moving from http to https - Please help!

2006-06-04 Thread James Holmes
If the session isn't available on that form post URL, using the same application name, something strange is going on. It's definitely the same physical server? On 6/4/06, cf coder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On viewbasket.cfm (wwwroot\order\viewbasket.cfm) I added the following code: tdform

Re: Web Traffic Reports

2006-06-04 Thread Matt Williams
Thanks for the responses. I'll be checking into these. It looks like there is still a waiting period for a Google Analytics account, unless I'm not going to the rigtht place. ~| Message:

RE: Session Variables lost when moving from http to https - Please help!

2006-06-04 Thread Coldfusion
Correct me if I am wrong but I thought the session variables are applied to the application Which is mapped to the url of http://www.mysite.com Since https is a different protocol, I did not think you could in theory share those variables. What I did was shared the DSN and such. Passed a URL

Re: how (the heck) to call functions on a jsp page?

2006-06-04 Thread Paul Hastings
stylo stylo wrote: Do you have a webpage with your address listed? I'd like to send a little token of appreciation. there's a wishlist on my blog http://www.sustainablegis.com/blog/cfg11n/ otherwise the contact page on our website has the snail mail address.

Re: Session Variables lost when moving from http to https - Please help!

2006-06-04 Thread cf coder
Yes its definately the same physical server. I have no clue as to why the session, application, server, form, request scope variables are not available on the https domain. ~| Message:

Re: Session Variables lost when moving from http to https - Please help!

2006-06-04 Thread cf coder
Is there a ColdFusion I can use on the https site to return the server settings i.e webserver version, application name, etc etc. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242312 Archives:

Re: Generic database management tool

2006-06-04 Thread Claude Schneegans
I feel like these toolkit projects are probably more attuned to performance and stability issues, as they are being used for some fairly intense apps. Make no mistake, these tool kits (at least my ODBCMyAdmin) use a lot of Javascript, but what they produce is plain vanilla CFM and HTML code.

Re: Session Variables lost when moving from http to https - Please help!

2006-06-04 Thread James Holmes
I do secure logins on non-secure sites using a single SSl cert, by passing the URLTOKEN in the URL, and all works well. As long as the session ids are available in the URL, it should work whether it's http or https. On 6/4/06, Coldfusion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Correct me if I am wrong but I

RE: Session Variables lost when moving from http to https - Please help!

2006-06-04 Thread Snake
cfdump var=#server# -Original Message- From: cf coder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 June 2006 15:24 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Session Variables lost when moving from http to https - Please help! Is there a ColdFusion I can use on the https site to return the server settings i.e

Re: Generic database management tool

2006-06-04 Thread Jim Wright
On 6/4/06, Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I feel like these toolkit projects are probably more attuned to performance and stability issues, as they are being used for some fairly intense apps. Make no mistake, these tool kits (at least my ODBCMyAdmin) use a lot of Javascript,

Re: Session Variables lost when moving from http to https - Please help!

2006-06-04 Thread cf coder
I added a cfdump tag to dump the server and application strucutre and saw the server dump but got an error for outputting the application dump: cfdump var=#server# cfdump var=#application# cfabort I'll have to contact the hosting provider to see what's going on. It is not making sense. I've

Re: How to convert a number into date?

2006-06-04 Thread Johnny Le
Someone must have epxerienced this problem before. The number is the lastlogon date produced by the Active Directory (Windows 2000) when I used LDAP to query it. Let me know if you know how to parse it now. Johnny The number can be a misinterpreted representation of the Unix Epoch time.

Re: Session Variables lost when moving from http to https - Please help!

2006-06-04 Thread Matt Robertson
ColdFusion wrote: I thought the session variables are applied to the application Which is mapped to the url of http://www.mysite.com Since https is a different protocol, I did not think you could in theory share those variables. No thats not correct. The session variables are mapped to an

Re: Session Variables lost when moving from http to https - Please help!

2006-06-04 Thread Matt Robertson
cf_coder wrote: I added a cfdump tag to dump the server and application strucutre and saw the server dump but got an error for outputting the application dump I think if there's no application scope then that means you are running code without a cfapplication statement. That would mean,

RE: Session Variables lost when moving from http to https - Please help!

2006-06-04 Thread Phillip Holmes
The cfapplication name in the application.cfm must be the same (presuming the secure ssl area is on the same server). Just carry it over with the urltoken var to be sure. I use urltoken on every post / url just in case users don't have cookies on. i.e. cfapplication name='yourname'

RE: Cross referential database integrity

2006-06-04 Thread Tom Kitta
Note sure when you should use federated tables as far as MySQL and DB2 are concerned - didn't use anything but simple MySQL and never used DB2. For most part its MS SQL and Oracle. Maybe someone else knows usage criteria for federated tables? TK -Original Message- From: Denny Valliant

RE: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread dave
i think they shaved it a little too deep ~Dave the disruptor~ From: Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 8:43 AM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: CF Studio 5 I don't think you can turn a mohawk into a mullet.

RE: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread dave
im sure ~Dave the disruptor~ From: Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 8:44 AM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: CF Studio 5 There is no better OS than the one I am using as far as I am concerned. -Original

Create keyboard shortcuts???

2006-06-04 Thread Johnny Le
Hi, Do you know how to create gmail-like keyboard shortcuts? I mean I know how to create shortcuts with Alt+..., but I don't know how to create shortcuts with one letter like C for compose. I searched google for create shortcuts for website but I got nothing. Johnny

Re: Create keyboard shortcuts???

2006-06-04 Thread Ryan Guill
They are done with javascript, you will have to create an event listener to listen for the keystroke and check to see what has focus, if nothing has focus on the page or if nothing that matters has focus then apply the action. But you want to make sure the user does not have a text field focused

Re: Cross referential database integrity

2006-06-04 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Tom Kitta wrote: Note sure when you should use federated tables as far as MySQL and DB2 are concerned - didn't use anything but simple MySQL and never used DB2. For most part its MS SQL and Oracle. Maybe someone else knows usage criteria for federated tables? Don't use the MySQL version for

Re: Create keyboard shortcuts???

2006-06-04 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Johnny Le wrote: Do you know how to create gmail-like keyboard shortcuts? I mean I know how to create shortcuts with Alt+..., but I don't know how to create shortcuts with one letter like C for compose. I searched google for create shortcuts for website but I got nothing.

Re: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Mark Drew
The next version of CFE has toolbars http://www.markdrew.co.uk/blog/index.cfm/2005/12/19/More-on-the-new- CFEclipse-Toolbars You can add whatever tags you want by using snippets. CFE is a CF editor by trade but we do provide html syntax too. You can edit the dictionary you are in , in the

Re: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Mark Drew
I shall see what I can do about that just for you Dave MD On 4 Jun 2006, at 03:59, dave wrote: I cant get it to work right and thats a major deal for me. ~Dave the disruptor~ From: Eric Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006

Re: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Mark Drew
Good enough? not good enough? Why didnt you like it? what would be better? I mean, apart from all the Open Source arguments etc, CFEclipse is a developer's tool, and we are here to help developers, we listen we try to add good features to help you develop. Do you want it *just* like

RE: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Snake
That's more like it Mark, I may yet be converted :-) I will have a look at the dictionary's next week and see if I can't customise CFE to not annoy me :-) Russ -Original Message- From: Mark Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 June 2006 19:35 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Studio 5

Re: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Mark Drew
Why does some of the arguments about HomeS**te Vs CFEclipse sound exactly like OS X Vs Windows or Linux vs Windows or Vi vs Emacs? I like CFEclipse so much I actually started making it a better product. So maybe I have a vested interest in being the minority, yes I use OS X and CFEclipse,

Re: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread dave
Mark, I have always voiced what issues I have with ecplise, right now I have none with cfe, hell you are doing one hella job on it and that's why I stick up for it. Again, the only issues I have with ECLIPSE are: 1. A design view, which doesn't mean a drag and drop interface wwysiwyg

Re: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread dave
Mark, I am not asking you to do it for me but it seems like a huge issue for a lot of people. If you ask most people what they think of ftp in ecplise their responce is it just sucks and it's kind of an important part and quite frankly I am still amazed that ecplise has come this far without a

Re: Session Variables lost when moving from http to https - Please help!

2006-06-04 Thread Matt Robertson
Just carry it over with the urltoken var to be sure. Yikes. I wouldn't recommend that for security reasons. You shouldn't need to make the application name a variable under most circumstances. How often does something like that change? Best to hardcode it and make it something that isn't

Re: Create keyboard shortcuts???

2006-06-04 Thread andy
Johnny... You're looking for the accesskey attribute. input type=submit value=Submit me accesskey=s With that in one of your forms you can hit ALT and S and it will submit the form. Same goes for a link: a href=contact.cfm accesskey=ccontact us/a Hitting ALT and C will activate the link,

Re: Create keyboard shortcuts???

2006-06-04 Thread Ryan Guill
Guys, he knows about the access keys. What he is talking about is not an access key, you do not have to hit alt with the key, just the key itself. gmail users are used to this within gmail, it allows you to hit c and the page changes for you to write an email, inside of an email you can hit j or

Re: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Peter J . Farrell
Mark, I am not asking you to do it for me but it seems like a huge issue for a lot of people. If you ask most people what they think of ftp in ecplise their responce is it just sucks and it's kind of an important part and quite frankly I am still amazed that ecplise has come this far

Re: How to convert a number into date?

2006-06-04 Thread David Strong
Remember the EPOCH times for Unix and Windows are different. Try this, read the comments I have included for you: !--- Problem: LDAP date is returned as NANOSECONDS and if you try to write a function to parse it CFMX returns an error saying the number is too big to fit in integer

Re: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread dave
And thats great for people working in groups and in shops but there are others out there who don't need all that. It depends on your situation but for me why do 5 things to get it to the server when you can do 1? FTPing to a server for testing is plain ol' 1998 You mean like using hs? They

RE: How to convert a number into date?

2006-06-04 Thread Dawson, Michael
Now, you have asked the right question. ;-) See if this helps: http://www.cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=1339 M!ke -Original Message- From: Johnny Le [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 12:35 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: How to convert a number into date? Someone must have

Re: Create keyboard shortcuts???

2006-06-04 Thread andy
Then yeah, you need to capture the keypress using javascript. This should do for you: http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=capture+keypress%2C+javascript Guys, he knows about the access keys. What he is talking about is not an access key, you do not have to hit alt with the key, just the key

RE: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Dawson, Michael
I just want to say that I like the concept of CFE and what Mark has done with it so far. I just don't care much for Eclipse's interface and the amazing breadth and depth of that product. It can easily overwhelm a person. That has nothing to do with Mark's CFE commitment. M!ke -Original

Re: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Denny Valliant
On 6/4/06, Dawson, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just want to say that I like the concept of CFE and what Mark has done with it so far. I just don't care much for Eclipse's interface and the amazing breadth and depth of that product. It can easily overwhelm a person. That has nothing

Re: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Jochem van Dieten
dave wrote: And thats great for people working in groups and in shops but there are others out there who don't need all that. It depends on your situation but for me why do 5 things to get it to the server when you can do 1? It still is one thing: hit the deploy button. They way I roll

Re: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
An interesting point, my mother-in-law bought me a copy of CF Studio 5 (Macromedia) as a yard sale for a buck. Had both books and the original CD so I assume it's legitimate. On 6/3/06, Rey Bango [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So would I. Rey... Snake wrote: I have to say, I would buy HS if

Re: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread dave
Yeah one of the big things with it is that most of these people can't even afford what they get let alone all the good stuff. Honestly, part of that problem for me is I don't really know enough about it to get into it. Is there any good links you have handy? I wish I could just sit around for

RE: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Snake
As I said, I have been using cfeclipse for 2 months now, so that hardly translate to I am never going to change. Changing your IDE is one thing, but you can't expect everyone to change their OS as well, like most people I have years of time and money invested in windows and the associated

RE: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread dave
no one said u didnt, my god the point was it doesnt run on anything but winblows and other people choose to use other os's, lets see how much you like windows when/if vista comes out and you cant even run hs anymore or half your other tools and you are still left with a half ass imitaion of

Re: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Rey Bango
hahahahaha! I'm just floored how this has blossomed into a full on debate about operating systems version control systems. Man, I should ask simple questions more often!!! hahahahaaha! ~Rey the impaler~ http://www.reybango.com dave wrote: no one said u didnt, my god the point was it

Re: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread dave
lol no kidding!!! I like your new nickname! ~Dave the disruptor~ From: Rey Bango [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 7:17 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: CF Studio 5 hahahahaha! I'm just floored how this has blossomed

Re: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Rey Bango
;o) dave wrote: lol no kidding!!! I like your new nickname! ~Dave the disruptor~ From: Rey Bango [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 7:17 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: CF Studio 5 hahahahaha! I'm just

Re: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Greg Luce
FTP is a problem with Homesite? Please elaborate on the HS FTP issues. I've worked mainly through FTP in Studio and Homesite for 5+ years without any problems. Eclipse on the other hand isn't as great with FTP from the few times I've tried. That's primarily why I've never converted. Greg On

Re: How to convert a number into date?

2006-06-04 Thread Johnny Le
Wow, David, that works. Thank you. Wonder why they chose 1/1/1601 as the starting point. Johnny Remember the EPOCH times for Unix and Windows are different. Try this, read the comments I have included for you: !--- Problem: LDAP date is returned as NANOSECONDS and if you try

Re: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread dave
No, ftp is a problem with eclipse. Eclipse on the other hand isn't as great with FTP from the few times I've tried. That's primarily why I've never converted. Exactly what I am saying... ~Dave the disruptor~ From: Greg Luce [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

ISDEFINED for list member

2006-06-04 Thread Richard Colman
Anyone know the proper syntax for checking whether a list member exists, like: cfif isdefined(listgetat(message,6, ' ')) Which does not work, BTW. TNX if you can help. Rick Colman ~| Message:

Large cfserver.log file a performance issue?

2006-06-04 Thread James Holmes
Lately our production server has been throwing null null errors on line -1 and requests have been timing out. TOP shows that the CF process is taking up a lot of CPU when this happens. I poked around and found that the cfserver.log file is huge (over 150MB). Is this a likely contributor to these

RE: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Russ
As I've said before, I think the ftp support is better in the latest nightly builds then it is in the latest stable release. I've used it for months and the only issue I've had was that after it times out, CFE doesn't handle it very gracefully, but I think even that has improved in the latest

Re: ISDEFINED for list member

2006-06-04 Thread Tony
are you just looking for a PARTICULAR value? or looking for the existence of a value in a PARTICULAR spot? tony On 6/4/06, Richard Colman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know the proper syntax for checking whether a list member exists, like: cfif isdefined(listgetat(message,6, ' ')) Which

Re: Context Root and Web Root misbehaving (CFMX7)

2006-06-04 Thread Troy Simpson
I think I found my answer in this tech note. http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_19400mode=thankyou Thanks, Troy On 6/1/06, Troy Simpson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have configured a server for multiple JRun/ColdFusion MX 7 instances like the following:

RE: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread dave
At least you are getting it to work. ~Dave the disruptor~ From: Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 9:51 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: CF Studio 5 As I've said before, I think the ftp support is better in the

Re: ISDEFINED for list member

2006-06-04 Thread Rick Root
Richard Colman wrote: Anyone know the proper syntax for checking whether a list member exists, like: cfif isdefined(listgetat(message,6, ' ')) Which does not work, BTW. You can't do it that way. listgetat() will fail with an index out of bounds error (essentially). cfif

RE: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Russ
Have you not gotten it to work at all with the latest stable build? I think there were some issues with the active/passive settings, and I believe CFEclipse only have one setting? Once I changed some settings on our ftp server, things were working fairly smooth. Russ -Original

Re: ISDEFINED for list member

2006-06-04 Thread Jim Wright
On 6/4/06, Richard Colman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone know the proper syntax for checking whether a list member exists, like: cfif isdefined(listgetat(message,6, ' ')) Assuming that you are looking for there to just be a value other than an empty string in a particular list position and

RE: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread dave
no, i cant even get the latest build to reconize it or the css plugin, i did put in the nightly build of cfe but its not showing up in the updater either. ~Dave the disruptor~ From: Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 10:18 PM To: CF-Talk

Re: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Denny Valliant
On 6/4/06, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, i cant even get the latest build to reconize it or the css plugin, i did put in the nightly build of cfe but its not showing up in the updater either. Is there a css plugin with cfe? I didn't think so... are you talking about webtools? Or

Re: How to convert a number into date?

2006-06-04 Thread Paul Hastings
David Strong wrote: Remember the EPOCH times for Unix and Windows are different. just an fyi: there are more than 1 windows epoch depending on what you're doing. besides the windows file time (ticks or 100 nanoseconds since 1-jan-1601) there's now also dotnet datetime (ticks since

RE: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Eric Roberts
Something else I just found...last night I went to d/l it and got eclipse installed. Went to get cfeclipse through the recommended process and it said that there were no updates (fresh install of eclipse with no cfeclipse) Was there a prob with the server last night? I ended up just downloading

Re: How to convert a number into date?

2006-06-04 Thread Paul Hastings
Johnny Le wrote: Wonder why they chose 1/1/1601 as the starting point. because it's the beginning of the last 400-year cycle by which leap-years are calculated in the Gregorian calendar, which was followed by a new 400-year cycle beginning with 2001.

RE: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread Russ
I always download the plugin manually... weird thing though... couldn't get the latest nightly build to work... is it currently broken? -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 12:53 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Studio 5

RE: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread dave
I ran into this as well before and as it turned out almost all the links were wrong on peoples sites and as soon as the new link was entered it was fine. Of course I forget what that link is now. ~Dave the disruptor~ From: Eric Roberts [EMAIL

Re: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread dave
No i was trying to use the standard one. I don't mind waiting for it to get right because apparently I must have a magic copy of dw that doesn't bring my puter to it's knees ;)~ maybe its just the os i use (just to egg on mohawk boy) ~Dave the disruptor~

RE: CF Studio 5

2006-06-04 Thread dave
shouldn't be, I got it earlier today ~Dave the disruptor~ From: Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 1:12 AM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: RE: CF Studio 5 I always download the plugin manually... weird thing though...