RE: Database question

2006-09-05 Thread Russ
Hmm... If instance names are irrelevant to JDBC connections, then how to you connect to a second instance of SQL on the same machine? (They would be running on the same port). Russs -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 8:58

Re: CFML and WML and session management

2006-09-05 Thread Lee May
| It work perfectly on emulator but not on real mobile devices. | When the user logout and click back on real mobile devices, the | previous content is viewable and i can see that session is not working | through-out the application. It shouldn't be like this. Please help!! | Thanks in

RE: CFML and WML and session management

2006-09-05 Thread Hugo Ahlenius
| But on real mobile device(SE, Nokia), it is different.When user logout | and select back, it shown the previous page and its content, but no | session timeout shown. And i found something funny, that is it | displays previous page without checking session.Does that means | session not existing?

Subversion and Subclipse

2006-09-05 Thread Stephen Barton
Hi, I hope someone may know what I am doing wrong here Firstly I am running the following: Windows XP Eclipse 3.2.0 Subversion (installed using the SVN1ClickSetUp), And everything seems to have installed just fine. I have right clicked on the folder I want to use as a repository, and using

Reverse xmlformat()?

2006-09-05 Thread Zimmer_J
Hi everyone, We are currently working on some data-exchange stuff using xml. While generating the xml-document is no problem using xmlformat() for the strings, we wonder how to undo the escaped characters on the receiver-side. Especially the escaped values (#xE9;) should be converted to utf-8

Weird CGI error

2006-09-05 Thread Richard Cooper
Hi, I'm getting and odd CGI variable error. I've wrapped CGI.query_string in a if stament. However, when there is a query string and the if statment is confirmed I receive this error: Element QUERY_STRING is undefined in GGI. 2 : cfif isDefined(SESSION.CFID) and isDefined(CGI.PATH_INFO) 3

RE: Weird CGI error

2006-09-05 Thread Adrian Lynch
Typo, CGI not GGI. Ade -Original Message- From: Richard Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 September 2006 11:52 To: CF-Talk Subject: Weird CGI error Hi, I'm getting and odd CGI variable error. I've wrapped CGI.query_string in a if stament. However, when there is a query string

RE: Weird CGI error

2006-09-05 Thread Paul Vernon
You have a typo... GGI should be CGI! Paul ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year.

Re: Weird CGI error

2006-09-05 Thread RichL
You could try CGI instead of GGI ??? On 9/5/06, Richard Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm getting and odd CGI variable error. I've wrapped CGI.query_string in a if stament. However, when there is a query string and the if statment is confirmed I receive this error: Element

Re: Weird CGI error

2006-09-05 Thread Richard Cooper
Dooh. That'd fix it... Thanks, R ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year.

Re: Subversion and Subclipse

2006-09-05 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Stephen Barton wrote: Windows XP Eclipse 3.2.0 Subversion (installed using the SVN1ClickSetUp), But when I go to add a SVN Repository from inside Eclipse (using the SVN Repository View), using the URL: http://127.0.0.1:8500/sandbox/ I get the following error: Unable to Validate svn:

Google chat down?

2006-09-05 Thread Matt Williams
Any other gmail users see this message where thier quick contact list should be? We're experiencing technical difficulties that may prevent your chats from being sent. I've been getting it for a day and a half or so. Just wanted to see if it was me or not. -- Matt Williams It's the question

Re: Google chat down?

2006-09-05 Thread James Holmes
I did - I logged into gmail again and now it's ok. On 9/5/06, Matt Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Any other gmail users see this message where thier quick contact list should be? We're experiencing technical difficulties that may prevent your chats from being sent. I've been getting it

A humorous flash presentation for college football fans

2006-09-05 Thread Jerry Barnes
If you follow college football (especially, the ACC), you will get a kick out of the following: http://www.newsobserver.com/1235/story/481010.html There are some previous presentations below this one that are humorous as well.

RE: Just a quick OT question?

2006-09-05 Thread Jenny Gavin-Wear
It makes it easier for them to split the traffic between the sites, for one thing. Each sub domain can sit on its own IP address. I use sub domains off my main domain when sites are in development and prior to registration of the domain they will exist on. Jenny -Original Message-

Re: Just a quick OT question?

2006-09-05 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Tuesday 05 September 2006 00:35, Doug Brown wrote: Is it just me, or is this more trouble than it is worth? I mean if you are hosting a single site like ebay is, what is the benefit? If there is a benefit I would really like to know more!! One benefit is that you can split your server farm

RE: SOT: ASG Safari ODBC and ColdFusion

2006-09-05 Thread Dawson, Michael
Well, I'll start talking and say what I have done/learned so far. First, we are about three versions behind on Safari software. I'm told that it is cost-prohibitive, at this time, to bring in Datatel support to upgrade the Safari installation on our servers. This goes for both our server and

RE: Peg = Margaret name matching code

2006-09-05 Thread Andy Matthews
Because then you have to enter pairs manually. He's looking for something that's automated. !//-- andy matthews web developer certified advanced coldfusion programmer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From:

RE: Database question

2006-09-05 Thread Dave Watts
Hmm... If instance names are irrelevant to JDBC connections, then how to you connect to a second instance of SQL on the same machine? (They would be running on the same port). No. Each instance requires its own port. SQL Server will not allow you to share a port between instances. Dave

RE: Peg = Margaret name matching code

2006-09-05 Thread Andy Matthews
mySQL 5+ has soundex built in. But I don't think that will help. Peg doesn't sound anything like Margaret, and many nicknames have only superficial resemblance to their full versions. !//-- andy matthews web developer certified advanced coldfusion programmer ICGLink, Inc.

Re: A humorous flash presentation for college football fans

2006-09-05 Thread James Holmes
Was this one meant for CF-Community? On 9/5/06, Jerry Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you follow college football (especially, the ACC), you will get a kick out of the following: http://www.newsobserver.com/1235/story/481010.html There are some previous presentations below this one that

CFEclipse - FTP???

2006-09-05 Thread Rey Bango
Okay, so awhile back, I made a posting asking if there was updated help files for CFStudio for CFMX7. This sparked a whole debate about how my old editor, CFStudio, was archaic and I should evolve and blah blah blah. So, since most of the critics said that I should seriously consider using

3 Authorize.Net Questions

2006-09-05 Thread Brian Polackoff
1.Can anyone tell me what the field names/field properties for the CFHTTPPARAM tag I must use for Authorize.net: CCV and Address Verification? 2. Upon completion of my current project I as thinking about applying for the certified Authorize.net developer status. Is this

including into a cfset

2006-09-05 Thread Daniel Kessler
okay, I'm sure this is cause I'm just not thinking right this morning, but I've stared and stared and just don't see the answer. I have a bit of text that I want to represent in alot of places (epidemiology and biostatistics) and wish to do: cfinclude template='department_name.cfm' which is

Re: CFEclipse - FTP???

2006-09-05 Thread Mark Drew
Yes, check out the File Explorer view There should be a little arrow at the top (next to a drop down) that allows you to define how you connect to the server) MD On 9/5/06, Rey Bango [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, so awhile back, I made a posting asking if there was updated help files for

RE: 3 Authorize.Net Questions

2006-09-05 Thread Che Vilnonis
Brian, I use... #1. CVV value: cfhttpparam name=x_card_code type=formfield value=#YOUR_VAR_HERE# Address verification is set in the Anet admin. Depending on your settings you will receive different info back from Anet when there are order errors. #2. Personally, I don't think it makes a

RE: including into a cfset

2006-09-05 Thread Ben Nadel
Dude, Just set the variable name into an application-level variable: cfset APPLICATION.Constants.DepartmentName = epidemiology and biostatistics / . Then use cfset page_location = APPLICATION.Constants.DepartmentName Or something to that effect. No need to keep it in a file.

RE: including into a cfset

2006-09-05 Thread Adrian Lynch
Not sure about your reasons, but you can do: cfsavecontent variable=myText cfinclude... /cfsavecontent Adrian -Original Message- From: Daniel Kessler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 September 2006 15:43 To: CF-Talk Subject: including into a cfset okay, I'm sure this is

OT: FckEditor / JS

2006-09-05 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
What I have is a textarea. As you type in the text area, a div tag is updated with the textarea's content creating a 'live preview'. I need to change that textarea to the FCKEditor but keep the live preview. The problem is that I don’t have the same control over the onchcnage and onkeyup

RE: including into a cfset

2006-09-05 Thread Brad Wood
I would just go back to bed. :) Just kidding... I'm not quite sure why you don't just set that string in a variable and simply output the variable as opposed to including an entire file just for three words. The proper syntax for what you had would be: cfset page_location = cfinclude

Re: CFEclipse - FTP???

2006-09-05 Thread Matt Williams
On 9/5/06, Mark Drew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, check out the File Explorer view There should be a little arrow at the top (next to a drop down) that allows you to define how you connect to the server) MD I have a question about the File Explorer FTP. Am I missing something or is there

RE: including into a cfset

2006-09-05 Thread Andy Matthews
Or if you really need to save these names in an external file, then create ONE file and include that, setting department names in APPLICATION variables in that file. !//-- andy matthews web developer certified advanced coldfusion programmer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: CFEclipse - FTP???

2006-09-05 Thread Rey Bango
That worked but when I try to open any file, it says that I'm trying to edit a read-only file. I went to the server and none of these files are marked as read only. Any ideas as to why CFE is saying that? Rey Mark Drew wrote: Yes, check out the File Explorer view There should be a little

RE: CF Updater 2 problems...

2006-09-05 Thread Kevin Aebig
O trust me, I know. =] I always assumed that IIS had global mappings like Apache, but I guess I was wrong... now I'm trying to hack together something with mod_rewrite which is looking less than promising... !k -Original Message- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday,

RE: including into a cfset

2006-09-05 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Daniel Kessler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: including into a cfset okay, I'm sure this is cause I'm just not thinking right

Search-function on website

2006-09-05 Thread Auke van Leeuwen
I was wondering if any of you have any thoughts on the implementation of a 'search-function' on a website. It would only be a fairly simple input field and some ranked search results. The website content comes directly from the database btw. So far I've used and come up with some scenario's:

RE: including into a cfset

2006-09-05 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
cfsavcontent var=myvarcfinclude template=mytemplate.cfm //cfsavecontent cfoutput#myvar#/cfoutput ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Daniel Kessler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:43 AM To:

Re: FckEditor / JS

2006-09-05 Thread Gareth Hughes
You'll need to pull this apart to get it to work for you but below is the JS I use to check an FCK instance isn't empty. So, you should be able to update your div with secondFrame.body.innerHTML. firstFrame = document.getElementById(FCKeditor1___Frame).contentWindow.document;

RE: Search-function on website

2006-09-05 Thread Dave Watts
I was wondering if any of you have any thoughts on the implementation of a 'search-function' on a website. It would only be a fairly simple input field and some ranked search results. The website content comes directly from the database btw. So far I've used and come up with some

RE: FckEditor / JS

2006-09-05 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
Hi Gareth. The problem is actually triggering a function when the content of the editor changes not actually reading the content. As for just reading the content, I figured that would be stored in the hidden text field that FCK creates. If I'm wrong about that, then I'm pretty sure this will get

RE: CF Updater 2 problems...

2006-09-05 Thread Dave Watts
I always assumed that IIS had global mappings like Apache, but I guess I was wrong... now I'm trying to hack together something with mod_rewrite which is looking less than promising... Why not just add the virtual directory to each site? You can script this - you could, for example, create a

Re: including into a cfset

2006-09-05 Thread Jim
erm, maybe i've not understood, but if you set a variable in your include then it will exist after the include? Testinclude.cfm cfoutput#isdefined(page_location)#/cfoutput cfinclude template=department_name.cfm cfoutput#isdefined(page_location)#/cfoutput

mailsent log

2006-09-05 Thread Orlini, Robert
I have to list the CF mailsent.log file. How can I have it ignore the information, 632 fields and search for the current date in the date field displayed as 00/00/00? I want it to display only the lines with the current date. This only skips 25 chars: #Left(maillog,25)#... cffile action

Re: FckEditor / JS

2006-09-05 Thread Gareth Hughes
Huh, that's a bit neater than the method I'm using :) I see what you mean now but not sure how you'd do it. Maybe a key event listener on document.window that polls the FCK instance and updates the div? No idea if that's actually possible though, sorry. - Original Message - From:

Re: mass emailing from CF

2006-09-05 Thread Andrew Spear
Why would you need to create all those cfschedules? Just have one schedule run and check for unsent mail. When your recordcount is down to zero, just delete the cfschedule. Or you can just let it run as there is minimal impact on checking a page that contains a query that doesn't return any

Re: 3 Authorize.Net Questions

2006-09-05 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
#2. Personally, I don't think it makes a difference. I'd agree with that for the most part. It's certainly never been a big problem for me not to have it. It's kind of a pain to do since they have requirements you have to meet (such as including echeck capability) that many sites really don't

Re: 3 Authorize.Net Questions

2006-09-05 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
Hey, what was the third question anyway? ;-) Mary Jo Sminkey http://www.cfwebstore.com CFWebstore, ColdFusion E-commerce ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting,

RE: FckEditor / JS

2006-09-05 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
That was more or less one of the first things I tried but no luck :-( The hidden box that FCK makes is called contentBox here document.getElementById('contentBox')[onchange] = new function('updateContent()') It only needs to work in IE if that matters :-) ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby

RE: CF Updater 2 problems...

2006-09-05 Thread Kevin Aebig
That's actually quite a good idea. I was hoping to not have to do that, but I guess it's the easiest route available if it's automated. If you run across it, I'd appreciate if you could pass it along... Cheers, !k -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: 3 Authorize.Net Questions

2006-09-05 Thread John C. Bland II
http://www.authorize.net/support/AIM_guide.pdf Everything you need to know about integration is contained in there. On 9/5/06, Brian Polackoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1.Can anyone tell me what the field names/field properties for the CFHTTPPARAM tag I must use for Authorize.net:

RE: 3 Authorize.Net Questions

2006-09-05 Thread Brian Polackoff
Well.. The first question really had two questions within it... Just another example why formatting is so critical... Hehe Thanks for the input! brian -Original Message- From: Mary Jo Sminkey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 12:07 PM To: CF-Talk Subject:

RE: FckEditor / JS

2006-09-05 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
Any idea why this would return null? document.getElementById(content1___Frame).contentWindow.document.getElemen tById(xEditingArea) I viewed source of the editor at the same url used to create it and xEditingArea is indeed the ID of the td im looking for

Re: CFEclipse - FTP???

2006-09-05 Thread Jim Wright
But...my development server is sitting in a remote hosting facility and up until now, I've used CFStudio's FTP capabilities to hit it. I don't plan on installing Subversion in the immediate future so how do I get access to my dev files? Does CFE have FTP functionality? Rey, I'm also,

Re: including into a cfset

2006-09-05 Thread daniel kessler
This worked great. The main reason is that I wanted it to work with something that already exists. I am putting up a placeholder site and using components from another site/application. All this will be redone in a few months and it will be it's own application then. cfsavecontent

Re: hssf poi (generating excel) and norton internet worm protection

2006-09-05 Thread Dan Plesse
As per normal I found an error in his code. cfset cell.setCellStyle(uglyStyle)/ should be cfset row.getCell(0).setCellStyle(uglyStyle) Anyone wants my POI test cfm just write to me off list. Thanks Dan On 9/5/06, Eric Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have used this pretty extensively

Re: CFEclipse - FTP???

2006-09-05 Thread Rey Bango
Hi Jim, Thanks alot for the suggestion. The Ant build script seems like a good solution but it also seems as it would add time to the code, test, code, test, interative approach that I use. Maybe I'm misunderstanding the process so here's what I do using a very simple example: I need to

Query of Queries type cast error

2006-09-05 Thread Ben Nadel
Hey all, I was just working on some query of queries code that used a manually value-modified query when I got this error: Error casting an object of type to an incompatible type. This usually indicates a programming error in Java, although it could also mean you have tried to use a foreign

Re: SQL Server CPU Utilization maxes at 25%

2006-09-05 Thread Rick Root
Russ wrote: Did you specifically limit sql server to use 1 cpu? No. Are you using a version of SQL server that only supports 1 cpu such as Sql 2005 express. No. Actually I was showing the combined graph, which only shows the average of the 4 CPUs. When I switched to the multiple

RE: hssf poi (generating excel) and norton internet worm protecti on

2006-09-05 Thread Dave Watts
As per normal I found an error in his code. cfset cell.setCellStyle(uglyStyle)/ should be cfset row.getCell(0).setCellStyle(uglyStyle) Are you sure that's an error? The HSSF docs say that the createCell method of the row object returns the new cell, so you should be able to reference it

Re: OT: FckEditor / JS

2006-09-05 Thread Rick Root
Bobby Hartsfield wrote: What I have is a textarea. As you type in the text area, a div tag is updated with the textarea's content creating a 'live preview'. I need to change that textarea to the FCKEditor but keep the live preview. Just out of curiousity, WHY do you need to keep the live

Re: CFEclipse - FTP???

2006-09-05 Thread Jim Wright
Rey Bango wrote: 1) FTP to my site via CFStudio's FTP option 2) Open the file 3) Make my changes 4) Test them in my browser 5) If anything is wrong, go back to step 3 else I'm done Using the ANT process is not too different... 1) Open the file from your local project 2) Make my changes

Re: passing arguments into a instantiated java object

2006-09-05 Thread Dan Plesse
You said call a method on that Java object which I think you mean the java object hidden inside daMsg, right? This assumes daMsg did not return with a void which you need then is a isdefined function to find that out. Yes would mean No, go figure ... women. The core tool for any programmer is a

RE: OT: FckEditor / JS

2006-09-05 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
No not really. Images can only be chosen by a drop down list then aligned top right of the content (content wraps it of course). I don’t want them dragging and resizing images in the editor because it will just confuse them. So that’s one strike There are also drop downs for events that they can

Re: CFEclipse - FTP???

2006-09-05 Thread Rey Bango
Awesome. Thanks for the explanation Jim. I'll definitely take a look at this later. Rey Jim Wright wrote: Rey Bango wrote: 1) FTP to my site via CFStudio's FTP option 2) Open the file 3) Make my changes 4) Test them in my browser 5) If anything is wrong, go back to step 3 else I'm done

debugging my chat app

2006-09-05 Thread Rick Root
I'd love it if a whole bunch of folks would come into my chat room and hang out for a couple minutes. http://www.opensourcecf.com/cfopenchat/demo/ I'm trying to debug some issues, one of which may involve server load and how the ajax app handles things. Rick

OT: I am soooo pissed

2006-09-05 Thread Doug Brown
I hate all these auctions for domain names. I was after a domain that expired and was being auctioned at snapnames, I had a limit at what I would pay and it was 1,000.00 and the damn thing is already up to 2,600.00 Oh well, I guess the search continues for something good.

Re: OT: FckEditor / JS

2006-09-05 Thread Rick Root
Bobby Hartsfield wrote: No not really. Images can only be chosen by a drop down list then aligned top right of the content (content wraps it of course). I don’t want them dragging and resizing images in the editor because it will just confuse them. So that’s one strike Ah... Well then, keep

Re: OT: I am soooo pissed

2006-09-05 Thread Jake Churchill
domainnamessuck.com? Doug Brown wrote: I hate all these auctions for domain names. I was after a domain that expired and was being auctioned at snapnames, I had a limit at what I would pay and it was 1,000.00 and the damn thing is already up to 2,600.00 Oh well, I guess the search continues

RE: debugging my chat app

2006-09-05 Thread Turetsky, Seth
I was in, but got booted out and can't get back in. Initialization failed -Original Message- From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 3:14 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: debugging my chat app I'd love it if a whole bunch of folks would come into my chat

RE: I am soooo pissed

2006-09-05 Thread Snake
Was it something CF related, as I have tons of CF related domains -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 September 2006 20:13 To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: I am s pissed I hate all these auctions for domain names. I was after a domain that expired and

Re: hssf poi (generating excel) and norton internet worm protecti on

2006-09-05 Thread Dan Plesse
Looks to me like all my crazy versions work egually well now. Must have been something else, but nice call. Even this crazy combo workBook.setSheetName(0, My First Sheet,workBook.ENCODING_UTF_16); uglyStyle.setFillBackgroundColor(40); workBook.getSheet(My First

Re: I am soooo pissed

2006-09-05 Thread Doug Brown
No, it was just a regular type name I suppose. gobuddy.com the auction is now at 3,800.00 - Original Message - From: Snake [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 1:22 PM Subject: RE: I am s pissed Was it something CF related, as

Re: debugging my chat app

2006-09-05 Thread Dan Plesse
I wrote three chat apps and one multi-user game. 1. Flash 2. Flex 3. Java Applet all with jabber. On 9/5/06, Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd love it if a whole bunch of folks would come into my chat room and hang out for a couple minutes. http://www.opensourcecf.com/cfopenchat/demo/

RE: OT: FckEditor / JS

2006-09-05 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
Yes, but they wouldn’t have pasted images. They wouldn’t have thought about it. But its not using FCK now so oh well. ..:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:. Bobby Hartsfield http://acoderslife.com -Original Message- From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006

Re: I am soooo pissed

2006-09-05 Thread Doug Brown
GOING ONCE...GOING TWICESOLD!!! for 4,500.00 TOsomeone other than me :( - Original Message - From: Doug Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 1:25 PM Subject: Re: I am s pissed No, it was just a regular type name

RE: I am soooo pissed

2006-09-05 Thread Andy Matthews
Just wait. The person bidding might default. !//-- andy matthews web developer certified advanced coldfusion programmer ICGLink, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 615.370.1530 x737 --//- -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: OT: FckEditor / JS

2006-09-05 Thread Claude Schneegans
I don’t want them dragging and resizing images in the editor because it will just confuse them. Exact, IMHO, all those HTML editors around are just too poweful for the hoi polloi. This is why I've developed my own. Images should not been inserted in the HTML editor, but in the CMS. Each page

ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more

2006-09-05 Thread Tom Kitta
I am wondering whatever anyone seen/ has opinion about the following system: All information that is presented on a HTML form to end user is build with information supplied by SQL Server stored procedure. I mean the data that makes the form + information how form should look like - information

Re: OT: FckEditor / JS

2006-09-05 Thread Claude Schneegans
keep in mind then that they can paste anything they want into FCKeditor Sure, but in general, they just don't want to. I mean not in a CMS used by users who are brought out in a rash as soon as they see an HTML tag ;-) -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags;

Re: ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more

2006-09-05 Thread John Blayter
IMHO... Use the systems for what they are designed for. Sure SQL server can generate HTML but is that the best way to maintain it? The thought of having to sort through thousands of stored procs instead of some kind of file system to make a presentation change just sounds like my personal version

RE: ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more

2006-09-05 Thread Dave Watts
I am wondering whatever anyone seen/ has opinion about the following system ... Does yecch count as an opinion? Seriously, though, what exactly is being returned by SQL Server? XML documents? Recordsets? Strings containing HTML? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig

RE: ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more

2006-09-05 Thread Kevin Aebig
The fact that you have SQL experts working on your presentation layer seems pretty crazy in that they aren't trained nor have the right toolset to be doing it properly. Graphic Artists / Web designers and even programmers are better suited to handle the user interaction. IMHO Data experts should

Re: ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more

2006-09-05 Thread Tom Kitta
The SQL server stored procedure returns: single row which is not HTML - CF builds HTML based on that single row result set. The data contained in SQL resultset has things like: 'User Name_txt50' - means display a field with caption 'User Name' that is a text field with 50 chars length. It can

Re: ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more

2006-09-05 Thread Tom Kitta
SQL programmers don't touch presentation - no one really touches it - its CF that does typesetting - its automatic as far as HTML form formatting is concerned. Thus I said CF as a presentation engine - CF does the presentation of data spitted out by SQL server based on some settings passed in

RE: ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more

2006-09-05 Thread Kevin Aebig
So if you want to change the interface, you need to change the table structure? Wow... And you're handling your form validations on the SQL end? I'm sure you could do it faster and better within CF. Cheers, !k -Original Message- From: Tom Kitta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday,

Re: ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more

2006-09-05 Thread Robert Munn
I disagree that most developers are SQL experts, but that is a separate discussion. As to your specific question about using CF as a presentation engine, that is a large part of what CF apps do. However, you need additional code in your application to control logic flow, check

RE: ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more

2006-09-05 Thread Brad Wood
That would definitely be a two-tiered system. With all of your business logic in the database, I'm not sure how well that would scale. If all your database did was save and retrieve data, it would be easier to accommodate more users by simple adding some more web servers, but if your database

Re: ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more

2006-09-05 Thread Tom Kitta
To build sample form with first name last name and address SQL server would send the following to CF presentation engine using tomForm_form stored procedure, with pre-populated data for myself: First NameLast NameAddressPostal Code_txt6ID_hidden TomKitta

Re: ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more

2006-09-05 Thread Tom Kitta
Actually its easy, if you want to change the look and feel of the whole application you don't touch tables, just change CF presentation server. As to changing some basic properties of every form, you just modify SQL as if you were modifying CF template (you modify SQL template instead). TK

Re: ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more

2006-09-05 Thread Tom Kitta
At this place developers don't know much about CF since they don't need it - they write templates in SQL without worrying about CF - they call it black box. As for application level security, logic flow, and business logic - its all SQL - CF doesn't do any of that. CF is just there to process

RE: ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more

2006-09-05 Thread Brad Wood
Security is provided by SQL security stored procedures etc. I'm not sure how this would work. Surely you don't mean database permissions. Is every user to your web site set up as a user in the database. CF always connects to the database as the same user doesn't it? Maybe you mean that you

Re: passing arguments into a instantiated java object

2006-09-05 Thread D F
Interesting idea... object viewer. But how would that differ from a straight cfdump of the object? Even better is a Object Viewer. I asked for this for CF 7 as the standard way coldfusion produces dumping output for java objects but it's another no go. So now coldfusion users are left with a

RE: ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more

2006-09-05 Thread Ian Skinner
I just don't think you are getting many takers here Tom K. If this works for you, by all means, full steam ahead. I just don't think many of us are going to follow along. Most of us can think of just as easy ways to separate the tiers that would allow a wider group of skill sets to be

Re: ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more

2006-09-05 Thread Tom Kitta
You are right, you pass every time the name of the user that is accessing the stored procedure (your last paragraph). TK - Original Message - From: Brad Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 4:43 PM Subject: RE: ColdFusion as

Re: I am soooo pissed

2006-09-05 Thread Doug Brown
You know what is weird...The site is already online!! I thought it took awhile, especially at networksolutions. Go Figure Doug - Original Message - From: Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 1:38 PM Subject: RE: I am

Re: ColdFusion as presentation engine and nothing more

2006-09-05 Thread Jim Wright
Tom Kitta wrote: On SQL server there are 1000's of stored procedures which are used to display form, validate, update, delete etc. Essentialy the form building is done on SQL server without even looking at any CF code. CF is a black box which rarely changes while 99% of development is in

Re: Peg = Margaret name matching code

2006-09-05 Thread Nathan Strutz
Well a little screen scraping on Mike's link will get you most of the way there. From that point it's one join away. That's mostly automated. After the initial data import, it will be manually tweaking data in a simple crud app. -nathan strutz http://www.dopefly.com/ On 9/5/06, Andy Matthews

RE: I am soooo pissed

2006-09-05 Thread Coldfusion
Probably a placeholder or could in fact be a domain squatter -Original Message- From: Doug Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 4:59 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: I am s pissed You know what is weird...The site is already online!! I thought it took

Re: Peg = Margaret name matching code

2006-09-05 Thread Robert Munn
Why not write a package that does it? You even have a name for it- Peg! Does anyone know of code that can match formal names, such as Michael with their less formal equivalents, such as Mike. I was starting to code this but stopped after realizing that there were thousands of these nicknames. I

Re: CFEclipse - FTP???

2006-09-05 Thread Jim Wright
Rey Bango wrote: Awesome. Thanks for the explanation Jim. I'll definitely take a look at this later. If you do decide to use this method, you will probably need this reference... http://ant.apache.org/manual/OptionalTasks/ftp.html

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