haha. what a great way to start the day! ha. Thanks for that.
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 2:55 AM, rex li...@pgrworld.com wrote:
I hope this is funny for you guys because it was funny for me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwzklHZqkbE
Ballmer seems like a nice guy. It wasn't an iPhone, so he
Hi Folks -
I am feeling dumb and either I am missing something simple or it's way
above me.
In my application.cfc, I was going to have a cfinclude that would pull
in my DB Name, user name, and password.
I would store those variables in application scope in onApplicationStart().
Wow, this is way off topic now eh!
There is a well known saying use the best tool for the job. And as Dave
will agree, CF is not always the best tool for the job, and I guess Adobe
themselves even know that, even Microsoft dont claim that Winodws/IIS is
the best solution for every job.
For
CFDynamics do not try to be cheap, which is an advantage in some ways as it
means they can put less customers per server.
When a host has to compete to be the cheapest, they have to try and pile as
many sites per server as possible to make it cost effective, which is where
the problems start.
You are pointing out another example where Microsoft developers have been
highly critical of Microsoft. One of the loudest calls is for Microsoft to
integrate Silverlight into MSIE so users don't need to download a separate
plugin. Silverlight does not have the widespread penetration that the
Fair enough. Though it's still kind of missing my point. My point is that is
Adobe doesn't use CF it should at least mask the use of other technologies.
That's easy to do and fairly cheap. You can _look_ like you aren't using php
without much trouble.
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Russ
Yes but why bother? I'm sure if they were getting thousands of complaints
then they would do so just for some peace and quiet, but my bet is that not
many people really care.
My old cfdeveloper.co.uk site ran on ASP because I found a community portal
app that did the job, I received the odd
I'm having one of those moments where something seemingly trivial isn't
working. I'm sure I'm missing something obvious. I have a custom tag that takes
and attribute named year and outputs the number of years since then. So, my
test.cfm looks like this:
cf_yearsSince year=1970
I'd expect
I've already explained why to bother. The same argument could be made about
Why bother changing a logo or a corporate brand? I doubt any company gets
thousands of complaints about their current brand or logo. The reason is
optics. If you aren't into marketing you likely won't get it.
On Fri,
isDefined(attributes.year)
in quotes?
Jerry Milo Johnson
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Dave Burns cft...@burnsorama.com wrote:
I'm having one of those moments where something seemingly trivial isn't
working. I'm sure I'm missing something obvious. I have a custom tag that
takes and
Could this be combined with an ELSE statement in SQL? That is, insert if
new, update if existing? Thanks, Che
-Original Message-
This is what I'm using at the moment but I'm going to read what you have as
well. I want fast and safe.
cfquery datasource=#variables.dsn#
Sigh. FML. Thank you. Now, how to delete this thread or at least remove my name
from it?
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Just point to the time, and claim lack of caffeine. Plus, it is Friday.
You are officially off the hook.
Jerry Milo Johnson
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Dave Burns cft...@burnsorama.com wrote:
Sigh. FML. Thank you. Now, how to delete this thread or at least remove my
name from it?
I'm getting ready to start working on what I hope is to become a pretty
large side project. Right now I'm in the planning phases, and one of
the (eventual) plans is to have a full API that others can use to
interact with the site. When thinking about this, I came up with an
idea that I
If _all_ children _aways_ get published (like your pseudocode indicates),
why not just flag the parent category?
If you want to do it all in SQL, try...
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms186243.aspx
Jason Durham
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 1:16 AM, wabba must...@wabba.net wrote:
Hi
If you plan to expose the API anyway, then it's a solid idea. It's a great
candidate for RESTful web services for the API.
You'd need to authenticate requests to the API so I'd look at stuff like
Google Checkout integration or Amazon S3 authentication for ideas you can
emulate to secure the API
Mike,
But Microsoft owns the whole stack from the OS down to the programming
languages themselves Adobe is a different sort of company.
-Mark
-Original Message-
From: Mike Chabot [mailto:mcha...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 12:15 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: why is
But they both sell software...they must be identical. /sarcasm
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Mark A. Kruger mkru...@cfwebtools.com wrote:
Mike,
But Microsoft owns the whole stack from the OS down to the programming
languages themselves Adobe is a different sort of company.
-Mark
Microsoft's uncertain commitment to Silverlight is the biggest area of
concern for many Microsoft developers at present.
Well, to put this in a larger context, Microsoft has a history of
throwing things out into the marketplace, then dropping them if they
don't go anywhere, or killing them
I've already explained why to bother. The same argument could be made about
Why bother changing a logo or a corporate brand? I doubt any company gets
thousands of complaints about their current brand or logo. The reason is
optics. If you aren't into marketing you likely won't get it.
I'm not
All,
Are there bugs in ColdFusion Builder? Yes. Will there be bugs in the next
release? Yes. I hope that as professional software developers we can
understand that software ships with defects. Some bugs are known, some
unknown. Some are critical to many, some are critical to just a few.
-Adam
Yes.
if exists(statement)
something
else
something else
The question I have to look up is if the whole operation is one 'unit' or
does it have to have transaction control. Is there a 'gap' between the
exists() check and the actual sql operation?
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Che
Michael, I found this using Google...
UPDATE Table1
SET (...)
WHERE Column1='SomeValue'
IF @@ROWCOUNT=0
INSERT INTO Table1
VALUES (...)
Might be better? Che
-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:mdino...@houseoffusion.com]
Sent: Friday, January
I was doing the @@rowcount version to check then insert but I was unhappy
with the performance. I was looking for some something a little better.
Still not happy.
I've got a keywords table with 2 columns - an ID (int) and a keyword
(varchar). With an index on keyword, it should be very quick to
I fully agree. The pace of change in Microsoft land is very stressful to
developers. They kill off and deprecate multiple technologies and product
features each year. Microsoft scrapping DTS sent many database developers
back into training classes. Adobe also has a history of killing off
Is exists() more efficient than this?
Yes. I use it all of the time. Exists() will look for until it finds a record
and as soon as it finds it, it stops because the criteria is met. A normal
Select statement will look at all records and finish once all records have been
parsed. It's really
If you are just doing an insert, why don't you do it like this
Insert into table(keyword)
Select @keyword -- Variable containing the keyword
Where not exists(select keyword from table where keyword=@keyword);
Keeps it all in one block/transaction.
-Original Message-
From: Michael
I don't really think your analogy is relevant, No company would change their
logo just because a couple of people don't like it but hat is hardly even
similar. I know enough about marketing to know that you need a good business
case to warrant spending lots of cash and man hours on something, it
That information is still very limited and ambiguous though Brian. Adobe are
only going to be aware of direct customers migrating to OSS or those who
announce it on twitter or forums, they wont be aware of customers using
shared hosting who don't own a cf license and are not in contact with adobe
Yes, there is a small gap between existence checking and the actual insert.
Unless you specifically commit the transaction early, all the statements
would be in the same transaction. That is true with all the possible
methods. Transactions are not the issue. Locking is, but it is only an issue
So just out of curiosity, is this on a SQL 2008 box? If so then you can
use merge and give different options for insert or update (even delete
if you want)
Steve
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Any sample code for a grid-like form?
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:16 PM, Monique Boea moniqueb...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello All
I have a form which is design like an excel spreadsheet with about 60 input
rows.
The user may enter values for some and not the others.
I am stuck on entering
Some more information might be helpful. Can we see the code of the form
itself? Also, are you just inserting new records into your database, or
editing existing records?
On 1/28/2011 10:34 AM, Monique Boea wrote:
Any sample code for a grid-like form?
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 8:16 PM,
New records. See code below.
I need to parse through the submitted fields to insert them.
I think I am making it much harder then what it is but I'm SO stuck.
Here's the code that I am working with to process the form fields:
cfif isDefined(form.submit)
cfloop From=1 To=
I'm trying to figure out how to subtract two dates and return the number of
days between then.
My dates are cprAdultExp, which is a database column, I typically write it as:
#dateformat(cprAdultExp,mm/dd/)#
The other is Now()
Which I also format as: #dateformat(Now(),mm/dd/)#
What's
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:45 AM, Adam Bourg adam.bo...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm trying to figure out how to subtract two dates and return the number of
days between then.
My dates are cprAdultExp, which is a database column, I typically write it
as: #dateformat(cprAdultExp,mm/dd/)#
The
Use the DateDiff function.
http://livedocs.adobe.com/coldfusion/8/htmldocs/help.html?content=functions_c-d_28.html
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Can anyone recommend a decent yet cheap web host for ColdFusion?
Right now I'm hosting my site at DreamHost (Simple wordpress as CMS site).
I'm looking for
SQL
PHP 5
and Coldfusion 8 support
all under $6.
Am I dreaming?
Depends... If you are looking at less than 31 days difference then you
can do it in the db. (only tried this in SQL Server).
Select cprAdultExp, getDate() as [now], day(getDate() - cprAdultExp) - 1
as dayDiff
From table
You can get days, hours, minutes, seconds from this. Day is the only one
To quote our great Jedi Master:
You probably won't find a 5 dollar a month hosting option for CF like
you can with PHP. But basing your business on a host that charges as
much as an imported beer is probably not a good idea.
(quote can be found in the comments here:
Well, if you believe in the old adage of you get what you pay for...
then decent and cheap are mutually exclusive :)
That being said... since decent is a subjective term (altho I guess
cheap is as well), a while back I hosted my blog at
http://hostingatoz.com/. Their most expensive package
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Adam Bourg adam.bo...@gmail.com wrote:
Can anyone recommend a decent yet cheap web host for ColdFusion?
Right now I'm hosting my site at DreamHost (Simple wordpress as CMS site).
I'm looking for
SQL
PHP 5
and Coldfusion 8 support
all under $6.
Am I
That's funny, http://hostingatoz.com/ returns FORBIDDEN You don't have
permission to access/ on this server!
Steve
-Original Message-
From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:charlie.grie...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 2:03 PM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Coldfusion Hosting
Well, if
As Charlie and Brian have pointed out, you can use that on the CF side.
You can also do on the SQL side, so since you are presumably getting
cprAdultExp from a query anyway, it'll save some processing cycles hehe
SELECT cprAdultExp, DATEDIFF(DAY, cprAdultExp, GETDATE()) AS
Weird. Comes up for me. Came up for me a few minutes ago (I brought
the site up to check the price). Hmm...
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 12:09 PM, DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT)
sd1...@att.com wrote:
That's funny, http://hostingatoz.com/ returns FORBIDDEN You don't have
permission to access/ on
So each time the form is submitted, you'll be inserting new records into
a database table? Also, the first input is a checkbox that passes the
users.employeeID if checked - what is the expected value if the checkbox
is not checked?
What is the structure of the table you are inserting to?
On
MSSQL 2000.
While this is for a client, a lot of what I'm doing here is going to applied
to my own stuff. The client will be moving to MSSQL 2008 soon but I'm
assessing if I can stay on MSSQL 2000, can move to MSSQL 2008, or should
just move over to MySQL for my own stuff.
The licensing on MSSQL
Not dreaming you can get that at Hostek but you will get what you pay for,
their servers seem to get a bit bogged down at times.
Can anyone recommend a decent yet cheap web host for ColdFusion?
Right now I'm hosting my site at DreamHost (Simple wordpress as CMS site).
I'm looking for
SQL
Strange it came up for me in Firefox, but my Corporate version of IE8
gets the following error:
Forbidden
You don't have permission to access / on this server.
Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use
an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
-Original
*So each time the form is submitted, you'll be inserting new records into
a database table? *
Yes
*Also, the first input is a checkbox that passes the
users.employeeID if checked - what is the expected value if the checkbox
is not checked?*
If its not checked it won't be submitted.
On
*So each time the form is submitted, you'll be inserting new records into
a database table? *
Yes
*Also, the first input is a checkbox that passes the
users.employeeID if checked - what is the expected value if the checkbox
is not checked?*
If its not checked it won't be submitted.
The
We have SQL2005 and SQL2008 servers. When we went to 2005 I thought
This is great, with 2008 I think How did I do this before!
The MERGE function is really nice. It's also nice to be able to declare
a variable and set its value all in one statement.
Example:
2005 (and before):
declare @today
When you're paying $75 a year for CF hosting, you don't get the luxury
of folks getting to see it in multiple browsers :D
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 12:16 PM, DURETTE, STEVEN J (ATTASIAIT)
sd1...@att.com wrote:
Strange it came up for me in Firefox, but my Corporate version of IE8
gets the
I pay $15.99/month at A to Z hosting.
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 2:21 PM, Charlie Griefer
charlie.grie...@gmail.comwrote:
When you're paying $75 a year for CF hosting, you don't get the luxury
of folks getting to see it in multiple browsers :D
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 12:16 PM, DURETTE,
Good afternoon everyone,
It's good to be back on this list and delving in to ColdFusion once
more. I dropped out-of-sight due to a recent move but am glad to be back in
the fold.
I'm curious to know if any of you have Web sites hosted on
http://www.hostdepartment.com and are
Hi, once again seeking some advice/help with a project. Can anyone direct me to
a good ajax tutorial that covers how to take form inputs/values and then
display results using an click event.
What I have is a form with only two inputs. The user types in numeric values in
each form field, then
Hello again everyone,
That sounds like an example of what I'm dealing with Host Department.
Maybe those guys have a reseller account hosted by them which would explain
the page weirdness.
Peter Donahue
- Original Message -
From: Charlie Griefer charlie.grie...@gmail.com
To:
http://www.crystaltech.com is very good. Its $17 a month, but their customer
support MORE than makes up for the cost. They do have cheaper plans, but I
think thats the cheapest plan with a CF server.
Can anyone recommend a decent yet cheap web host for ColdFusion?
Right now I'm hosting my
+1 for Hostek, I have the $25 package.
Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au/
-Original Message-
From: Casey Dougall [mailto:ca...@uberwebsitesolutions.com]
Sent: Saturday, 29 January 2011 6:07 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Re: Coldfusion Hosting
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at
So you want to use Ajax to go to the server and get some results?
Have a look at ColdFusions cfAjaxProxy tag.
Regards,
Andrew Scott
http://www.andyscott.id.au/
-Original Message-
From: Teed Younger [mailto:teedyoun...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, 29 January 2011 6:22 AM
To:
I'm hosting my websites at Hostek on a reseller account and until now I'm very
happy with them.
Kind regards,
Guust Nieuwenhuis
On 28 Jan 2011, at 20:57, Andrew Scott andr...@andyscott.id.au wrote:
+1 for Hostek, I have the $25 package.
Regards,
Andrew Scott
Depends on your needs...if you don't mind having your wings clipped a bit,
places like GoDaddy are pretty good...but there are restrictions on the tags
that can be used.
-Original Message-
From: Eric Cobb [mailto:cft...@ecartech.com]
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 13:02
To: cf-talk
Note that there is a datediff in SQL Server as well. It works the same way,
just slightly different dateparts
.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.
Bobby Hartsfield
http://acoderslife.com
-Original Message-
From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:charlie.grie...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 28,
Hostek.com
Setup a Reseller account for $25 and you get 5 sites... Then each site is
$5. They have been great, I have been with them for many years now.
Rick
-Original Message-
From: Eric Roberts [mailto:ow...@threeravensconsulting.com]
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 2:13 PM
To:
Yeah, you're dreaming. But you can check out gearhost.com. I moved to them
a couple years ago and have never had a problem creating robust OO based
coldfusion 8 websites there.
William
-Original Message-
From: Adam Bourg [mailto:adam.bo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011
Am I in bizarro land? No one can see an advantage to (as others have stated)
eating your own dog food?
Before you know it Steve Jobs will be telling me to use Windows.
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Russ Michaels r...@michaels.me.uk wrote:
I don't really think your analogy is relevant, No
Of course Michael we can see the advantage, it just isn;t keeping the rest
of us awake at night worrying about it. Your also still missing the point I
think. Sometimes it is simply not viable, economical, a good business
decision etc to do what you want.
If you have the choice between a solution
I can sleep, no worries mate.
It does however ring as a shortsighted and an inconsistent message of the
brand. But that's just my opinion as a guy who makes these types of
decisions. Though for much smaller clients than Adobe.
I feel masking the use of php on any CF branded Adobe pages (NOT
I generally prefer to use JQuery over CF's built in stuff. I find it to be
more steamlined. Plus I think you can probably find more tuts for the JQuery
approach.
This tut has a nice approach and actually explains ajax a bit. Might be a
good start:
Hello all.
I have been trying to figure this out all day. Any assistance would be
appreciated.
I have a dynamic form that is in grid format:
cfform name=enterNonProd action=#cgi.SCRIPT_NAME# method=post
table class=content border=1 style=border-collapse:collapse;
cellpadding=5 cellspacing=5
I've done this approach a number of times and quite like it. The parent site
is just a consumer of your api. You become your own first beta tester and
helps identify issues before you roll out to the public. Plus if you need
changes made you make them directly to the api and not just your own
Eric...
I like the idea of building out the API from the beginning. That would have
the benefit of having your API almost fully tested before it's publicly
released.
Simon Free has some great presentations on the Do's and Don't's of writing
APIs. Check them out:
Also, consider looking into ColdBox. It's built from the ground up to allow
for REST:
http://www.simonfree.com/presentations/
-Original Message-
From: Eric Cobb [mailto:cft...@ecartech.com]
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 8:20 AM
To: cf-talk
Subject: Should I build my app as an API?
If anyone is interested here is how I got this to work FINALLY!!
cfoutput
cfif isDefined(form.submit)
cfloop index=i list=#Form.employeeID#
cfif isDefined('form.reason#i#') AND #form[reason#i#]# NEQ
cfquery datasource=alere
INSERT INTO
I do wonder though why do so many of you seem to take the tack that if a
company does (or doesn't do) something that it's both a) a fully thought out
and analyzed decision and b) the right one.
Maybe, maybe not. I don't think I mentioned a master plan. What I
did mention, was that they have a
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Brian Kotek wrote:
The reality is that Railo and Open BlueDragon are not growing the market for
CFML. No one is *switching to* CFML from PHP, .NET, Ruby, or Java because of
the OSS engines. To the extent that this might happen, it is an
infinitesimally small
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Michael Grant wrote:
I can sleep, no worries mate.
The strength of your opinion belies that statement. You know you lie
awake at night, tossing and turning over this in agony. Admit it. =)
...
I feel masking the use of php on any CF branded Adobe pages (NOT
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