Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-11 Thread Larry Lyons
No, Andy's Eclipse is always jacked up. I'm convinced, though, that it's a PEBKAC issue. Or he needs to stop looking at porn on his laptop;) Steve Cutter Blades Adobe Certified Professional Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer I was thinking he needs to get a computer that wasn't

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-11 Thread Eric Cobb
Actually, he just got a brand new, high-end HP laptop 3 or 4 weeks ago. Cutter's right, it's all the porn. Larry Lyons wrote: No, Andy's Eclipse is always jacked up. I'm convinced, though, that it's a PEBKAC issue. Or he needs to stop looking at porn on his laptop;) Steve Cutter Blades

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-10 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Friday 05 Dec 2008, Cutter (CFRelated) wrote: How 'bout someone write an HTML/JS AIR based IDE? So we can get true cross-platform compatability. What's the point ? Eclipse sits on top of Java, which runs everywhere. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to carefully participate convergence

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-10 Thread Cutter (CFRelated)
I was being a smartass Tom, for all the Eclipse haters out there. I'm a strong advocate of Eclipse, and CFEclipse in particular, though I'll happily take Bolt for a test spin. Steve Cutter Blades Adobe Certified Professional Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer Co-Author of Learning

RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-10 Thread Andy Matthews
: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt On Friday 05 Dec 2008, Cutter (CFRelated) wrote: How 'bout someone write an HTML/JS AIR based IDE? So we can get true cross-platform compatability. What's the point ? Eclipse sits on top of Java, which runs everywhere. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to carefully participate

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-10 Thread Dave Watts
Because Eclipse runs like a DOG on my machine. It takes sometimes up to 8-10 seconds when I click a tab to maximize that code window to the interface. You might want to try changing the JVM that Eclipse uses. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-10 Thread Gerald Guido
that code window to the interface. -Original Message- From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 6:19 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt On Friday 05 Dec 2008, Cutter (CFRelated) wrote: How 'bout someone write an HTML/JS AIR

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-10 Thread Cutter (CFRelated)
No, Andy's Eclipse is always jacked up. I'm convinced, though, that it's a PEBKAC issue. Or he needs to stop looking at porn on his laptop;) Steve Cutter Blades Adobe Certified Professional Advanced Macromedia ColdFusion MX 7 Developer Co-Author of Learning Ext JS

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-10 Thread Charlie Griefer
egad i'd hate to think that's the solution to any problem. On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Cutter (CFRelated) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, Andy's Eclipse is always jacked up. I'm convinced, though, that it's a PEBKAC issue. Or he needs to stop looking at porn on his laptop;) Steve Cutter

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-05 Thread Andy Allan
, Adobe's normal NDA would prevent you from saying so. -Original Message- From: mac jordan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 12/4/2008 14:47 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 2:39 PM, John M Bliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I signed up for the beta

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-05 Thread Cutter (CFRelated)
folding right? -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:02 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt I don't care if they call it Elmer Fudd as long as it works well and has code folding...that feature alone is worth

RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-05 Thread Rick Faircloth
Thanks for the tip, Adam...I'll check it out. Rick -Original Message- From: Adam Haskell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 12:11 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt Couple of thoughts rick. You could take a stab at adding the feature

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-05 Thread Dave l
I have started using Coda (http://www.panic.com/coda/) friggin love it! Probably the first IDE I have actually ever liked. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free

RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-05 Thread Rick Faircloth
Mac only, right? -Original Message- From: Dave l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 1:06 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt I have started using Coda (http://www.panic.com/coda/) friggin love it! Probably the first IDE I have actually ever

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-05 Thread Dave l
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RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-05 Thread Andy Matthews
Yes. -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 12:26 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt Mac only, right? -Original Message- From: Dave l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 1:06 PM

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-05 Thread Cutter (CFRelated)
. -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 12:26 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt Mac only, right? -Original Message- From: Dave l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 1:06 PM To: cf

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-05 Thread Charlie Griefer
/ne gets popcorn ready... On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Andy Matthews [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Yes. -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 12:26 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt Mac only, right

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-05 Thread Wil Genovese
Well if it's Mac only then I don't want itOh wait, I switched to Mac. OK, now it's a good thing ;-) Wil Genovese One man with courage makes a majority. -Andrew Jackson A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for doing well. On Dec 5, 2008, at 2:11 PM, Andy Matthews wrote:

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-05 Thread Rick Faircloth
Got your anti-virus installed? :oP Wil Genovese wrote: Well if it's Mac only then I don't want itOh wait, I switched to Mac. OK, now it's a good thing ;-) Wil Genovese One man with courage makes a majority. -Andrew Jackson A fine is a tax for doing wrong. A tax is a fine for

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-05 Thread Eric Roberts
jordan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 12/4/2008 14:47 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 2:39 PM, John M Bliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I signed up for the beta. No word from the mothership yet. Ditto. -- mac jordan

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-05 Thread Gerald Guido
] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 12:26 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt Mac only, right? -Original Message- From: Dave l [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 1:06 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt I have

Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Rick Faircloth
So...anyone *not* using the Bolt beta, please raise your hands... I don't see any hands, so it must be out. Is anyone allowed to confirm that it's out and being used and therefore I didn't get a chance to work with the beta? :o( Rick

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread John M Bliss
I signed up for the beta. No word from the mothership yet. On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: So...anyone *not* using the Bolt beta, please raise your hands... I don't see any hands, so it must be out. Is anyone allowed to confirm that it's out and being

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread mac jordan
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 2:39 PM, John M Bliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I signed up for the beta. No word from the mothership yet. Ditto. -- mac jordan www.webhorus.net | www.reactivecooking.com | www.nibblous.com | www.jordan-cats.org

RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Tom Chiverton
Had there been word, Adobe's normal NDA would prevent you from saying so. -Original Message- From: mac jordan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 12/4/2008 14:47 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 2:39 PM, John M Bliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
So...anyone *not* using the Bolt beta, please raise your hands... I don't see any hands, so it must be out. Is anyone allowed to confirm that it's out and being used and therefore I didn't get a chance to work with the beta? :o( I'm not - not even sure if I'm going to until I see a good

RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Jacob
+1 -Original Message- From: John M Bliss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 6:39 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt I signed up for the beta. No word from the mothership yet. On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote

RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Dawson, Michael
I'm not saying anything. ;^) -Original Message- From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 8:49 AM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt Had there been word, Adobe's normal NDA would prevent you from saying so

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Jason Fisher
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Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Rick Faircloth
CF IDE, Bolt On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 2:39 PM, John M Bliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I signed up for the beta. No word from the mothership yet. Ditto. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important

RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Billy Cox
? -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 8:37 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt So...anyone *not* using the Bolt beta, please raise your hands... I don't see any hands, so it must be out. Is anyone allowed to confirm

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Charlie Griefer
normal NDA would prevent you from saying so. -Original Message- From: mac jordan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 12/4/2008 14:47 To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 2:39 PM, John M Bliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I signed up

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Charlie Griefer
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Billy Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe they have to rebrand since Disney's latest non-Pixar movie is named 'Bolt'. I wouldn't want *my* IDE to share a name with a stupid movie. But on a technical note... Is this IDE targeted to current Eclipse users, or is

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Scott Stewart
8:37 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt So...anyone *not* using the Bolt beta, please raise your hands... I don't see any hands, so it must be out. Is anyone allowed to confirm that it's out and being used and therefore I didn't get a chance to work with the beta? :o( Rick

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Rick Faircloth
I don't care if they call it Elmer Fudd as long as it works well and has code folding...that feature alone is worth $100 at least to me... Charlie Griefer wrote: On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Billy Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe they have to rebrand since Disney's latest non-Pixar

RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Tom Chiverton
Bolt is only the code name, I guess, so the clash doesn't matter. -Original Message- From: Billy Cox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 12/4/2008 15:52 To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt Maybe they have to rebrand since Disney's latest non-Pixar movie is named 'Bolt'. I

RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Robert Harrison
I wouldn't want *my* IDE to share a name with a stupid movie. It wasn't a stupid movie. IMHO it was actually rather good... and it was about BOLT having superpowers, as I hope the new BOLT IDE does. Robert B. Harrison Director of Interactive services Austin Williams 125 Kennedy Drive, Suite

RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Dawson, Michael
So, then it would be called EF Studio? -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:02 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt I don't care if they call it Elmer Fudd as long as it works well and has code folding

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Rick Faircloth
Sounds good to me... hopefully, short for Everyone's Favorite Studio... Dawson, Michael wrote: So, then it would be called EF Studio? -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:02 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe's CF

RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Andy Matthews
You realize that Eclipse has code folding right? -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:02 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt I don't care if they call it Elmer Fudd as long as it works well and has code

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Charlie Griefer
PROTECTED]wrote: You realize that Eclipse has code folding right? -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:02 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt I don't care if they call it Elmer Fudd as long as it works well

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Cutter (CFRelated)
Eclipse users, or is Adobe trying to convert programmers who are using Dreamweaver? -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 8:37 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt So...anyone *not* using the Bolt beta, please

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Gerald Guido
? -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:02 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt I don't care if they call it Elmer Fudd as long as it works well and has code folding...that feature alone is worth $100 at least

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Rick Faircloth
:02 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt I don't care if they call it Elmer Fudd as long as it works well and has code folding...that feature alone is worth $100 at least to me... Charlie Griefer wrote: On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Billy Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Rick Faircloth
, 2008 8:37 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt So...anyone *not* using the Bolt beta, please raise your hands... I don't see any hands, so it must be out. Is anyone allowed to confirm that it's out and being used and therefore I didn't get a chance to work with the beta? :o( Rick

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Aaron Rouse
... Andy Matthews wrote: You realize that Eclipse has code folding right? -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:02 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt I don't care if they call it Elmer Fudd as long

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Rick Faircloth
Well, I mean it's worthless in the manner I want to use it, not that it's worthless to everyone else... I use to organize, quickly scan, and navigate sections of code, especially when I first open a file. Aaron Rouse wrote: Worthless to have persistent folding? While I never have used it,

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread s. isaac dealey
I wouldn't want *my* IDE to share a name with a stupid movie. It wasn't a stupid movie. IMHO it was actually rather good... and it was about BOLT having superpowers, as I hope the new BOLT IDE does. I thought it was about Bolt being deluded and only thinking he had superpowers. ;) -- s.

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread s. isaac dealey
Part of the larger WB Studio suite. :) So, then it would be called EF Studio? -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:02 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt I don't care if they call it Elmer Fudd

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread s. isaac dealey
In the spirit of Blue Monster Reserve http://www.gapingvoid.com/Moveable_Type/archives/004170.html I think it's hilariously ironic that Microsoft employees are trying to change the world and convince the corporate suits to become more open and stop maintaining their monopoly-esque

RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Ben Forta
: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt So...anyone *not* using the Bolt beta, please raise your hands... I don't see any hands, so it must be out. Is anyone allowed to confirm that it's out and being used and therefore I didn't get a chance to work with the beta? :o( I'm not - not even sure if I'm going to until I

RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Rick Faircloth
Thanks for the info, Ben! Rick -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 6:59 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt The formal Bolt beta has not yet started, so the fact that you've heard nothing yet does not mean

Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt

2008-12-04 Thread Adam Haskell
: You realize that Eclipse has code folding right? -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:02 AM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Adobe's CF IDE, Bolt I don't care if they call it Elmer Fudd as long as it works well and has