On 10/8/06, Jim Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't agree that XML is too much of a PITA - at least not more or less
than anything else.
I meant this in the contect of frameworks are evil, so I want to
reinvent the wheel, so XML is too much coding to deal with, so I'll
just evaluate a JSON
And of course that should be context and I should learn to speel
chick more often.
On 10/8/06, James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 10/8/06, Jim Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't agree that XML is too much of a PITA - at least not more or less
than anything else.
I meant this in
Eventually people are going to want to return more than a plain string
or HTML to their page. To do that they will probalby want to use JSON
(assuming XML is too much of PITA, which it is). So then they have to
write code to get their CF data into JSON and back again. In other
words, they'll
No need to write the code to convert between CF/JSON, it has already been
done, check out http://jehiah.com/projects/cfjson/
Russ
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From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 October 2006 10:28
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October 2006 10:28
To: CF-Talk
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Eventually people are going to want to return more than a plain string or
HTML to their page. To do that they will probalby want to use JSON (assuming
XML is too much of PITA, which it is). So then they have to write code
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From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 5:28 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Ajax and CF...*sigh*...again...
Eventually people are going to want to return more than a plain string
or HTML to their page. To do
I don't agree that XML is too much of a PITA
May be not, but it is not a panacea either.
Sometimes, other solutions are many times simpler.
Example : instead of using cfwddx to transmit data to Javascript, which
may generate a 500 k file,
create the Javascript code to define the structure,
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From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 2:52 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Ajax and CF...*sigh*...again...
I don't agree that XML is too much of a PITA
May be not, but it is not a panacea either.
Sometimes, other
I know, I know...asked about a ZILLION times...but here's all I want.
1. I'm a CF programmer who doesn't use any kind of framework (okay, please
let's not go off on THAT tangent). I'm a formally taught CompSci grad dude
who's been using CF now for about ten years, never messed with ASP, never
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From: Jeff Small
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Fri Oct 06 19:58:42 2006
Subject: Ajax and CF
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From: Jeff Small
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Fri Oct 06 19:58:42 2006
Subject: Ajax and CF...*sigh*...again...
I know, I know...asked about a ZILLION times...but here's all I want.
1. I'm a CF programmer who doesn't use any kind of framework (okay, please
let's not go off on THAT tangent
, Neil (RX)
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If I had to choose now, I would say MXAJAX as it has prototype and
script.aculo.us in it :-)
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From: Andy Matthews
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Fri Oct 06 20:32:45 2006
Subject: RE: Ajax and CF...*sigh*...again...
Or you could use jQuery and get all of it in one codebase of 15k or less.
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From: Jeff Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 12:59 PM
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Subject: Ajax and CF...*sigh*...again...
I know, I know...asked about a ZILLION times
As well as what you can learn today. The next CF is supposed to include direct
AJAX support. I'm looking forward to that, being a very similar developer as
you, except for the CompSci degree. Mine was University Studies.
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From: Jeff Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 12:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Ajax and CF...*sigh*...again...
I know, I
, October 06, 2006 2:42 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Ajax and CF...*sigh*...again...
JQuery is good for sure, but I don't think it can compete with prototype and
script.aculo.us - does it have all the drag drop stuff? I can't remember...
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20:52:41 2006
Subject: RE: Ajax and CF...*sigh*...again...
As well as what you can learn today. The next CF is supposed to include
direct AJAX support. I'm looking forward to that, being a very similar
developer as you, except for the CompSci degree. Mine was University
Studies
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From: Kevin Aebig
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Fri Oct 06 20:49:17 2006
Subject: RE: Ajax and CF...*sigh*...again...
Here's a painfully simple implementation. If you
Hi Rob,
Yes, JQuery can compete feature for feature with Prototype
Scriptaculous. To answer your question, JQuery itself doesn't have DnD.
Just like Prototype, it relies on a third party plugin called Interface
to provide that functionality and many other effects. Thats essentially
what
Yep, thats how I first learned to do it. HeadStart Ajax was awesome for
giving me the fundamentals.
Here's how you'd do it in Jquery:
$.ajax({type: POST,
url: myurl.cfm,
data: param + ms= + new Date().getTime(),
dataType: html,
success: function(msg){
Yes.
Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote:
Has this ever been confirmed?
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You're absolutely correct Rob. It definitely helps to know JavaScript,
CSS DOM manipulation but the libraries (JQuery, Dojo, Prototype, et
al) REALLY help in making DOM manipulation a breeze. I wouldn't
recommend getting totally reliant on them, though, because if you don't
have a lib
Has this ever been confirmed?
Well, I heard it from Ben Forta last week at the Adobe CF and Flex conference
in San Francisco. I guess that is not 100%, but I would suspect it is pretty
good.
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Jeff,
To answer your question, I would recommend getting a firm understanding
of how the base XHR works. You can get that from most intro books such
as HeadStart Ajax or Ajax in Action. The former is much more intro than
the latter and I would recommend the HeadStart book first. It will teach
within this
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From: Ian Skinner
To: CF-Talk
Sent: Fri Oct 06 21:21:13 2006
Subject: RE: Ajax and CF...*sigh*...again...
Has this ever been confirmed?
Well
1. I'm a CF programmer who doesn't use any kind of framework (okay,
please let's not go off on THAT tangent). I'm a formally taught CompSci
grad dude who's been using CF now for about ten years, never messed with
ASP, never messed with PHP, etc... I'm just 100% CF and I roll all my own.
2.
Rey (and everyone else that replied)...
Thanks so much. This has been a *tremendous* help.
I'm thinking that the thing that I'm taking away from this conversation is
that even though I'd call myself an intermediate javascript programmer, I
really need to get a much firmer grip on the DOM/CSS
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