RE: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-11 Thread Micha Schopman
What Javascript bug are you actually referring too? I am pretty interested. Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-11 Thread Adam Haskell
Likewise I looked at your sited source code and I couldn't find a buig comment reading WE FIXED THIS FOR FF. plus this would be an ontopic conversation for this list Adam H On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:01:49 +0100, Micha Schopman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What Javascript bug are you actually

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-11 Thread Claude Schneegans
I would also suggest that when the new site is being made that it is modeled for compliant browsers first then add the necessary tweaks for IE, seems to make things a lot easier Depends... Personally, I'm using an MSIE emulator for FF. (see http://webfx.eae.net/dhtml/ieemu/ ) MSIE has very

RE: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-11 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Depends... Personally, I'm using an MSIE emulator for FF. (see http://webfx.eae.net/dhtml/ieemu/ ) MSIE has very convenient features missing in the standard. Thanks to __defineSetter__ and __defineGetter__ methods, one can define new

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-11 Thread Claude Schneegans
I thought this thread was being moved to cf-ot or cf-community? The non technical part of it. Say, why don't you move yourself to CF-Community? ;-) -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send

qRE: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-11 Thread Calvin Ward
] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 10:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Anyone used these tools? From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Depends... Personally, I'm using an MSIE emulator for FF. (see http://webfx.eae.net/dhtml/ieemu/ ) MSIE has very convenient features missing in the standard

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-11 Thread Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
LMAO!! CLAUDE, that was classic! I don't get a chuckle from much, but that made me laugh right out loud. Thanks for the chuckle. J -- Continuum Media Group LLC Burnsville, MN 55337 http://www.web-relevant.com http://cfobjective.neo.servequake.com

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-11 Thread Scott Stroz
UNSUBSCRIBE On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 23:01:34 -0500, Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: may i never irritate the people on this list :) wow. tw On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 20:50:40 -0600, Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My god, I'm away from the list for a day and look all

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-11 Thread Spike
As far as I'm concerned, their product costs me a lot. That's certainly a valid position to take while still coming across, to me at least, as particularly mean spirited and selfish. For my part I've found that FireFox is an order of magnitude easier to develop for because of the developer

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-11 Thread Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
Well, Tony, at least you can be absolutely sure of one thing around here... You'll never have to guess at where you stand with people. I like that, frankly. I'd rather have someone tell me they think I'm an idiot to my face than run around behind me making annoying whispering noises. It's not

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-11 Thread Tony Weeg
cant do that... too fun reading this, information is too good on this list! tw On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:37:18 -0500, Scott Stroz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: UNSUBSCRIBE On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 23:01:34 -0500, Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: may i never irritate the people on this list :)

Re: qRE: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-11 Thread Will Tomlinson
I think this commentary is very much on-topic, unless you want to move all discussion of CSS, Javascript, SQL, IIS, Apache, etc. to cf-community? If it comes to that, the forum will lose a lot of value. I second that! It seems the most valuable threads are the ones where people whine about

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-11 Thread Tony Weeg
no doubt man... id MUCH rather a middle finger in my face, than a whisper behind my back! :) tw On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:13:25 -0600, Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, Tony, at least you can be absolutely sure of one thing around here... You'll never have to guess

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-11 Thread Claude Schneegans
I can test and find out exactly what is going on using things like the DOM Inspector, JavaScript console and Web Developer extension. I agree that tools like Javascript console, for instance, are pretty handy compared to MSIE, but before you can read error messages and debug, you need to write

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-11 Thread Spike
Claude Schneegans wrote: I can test and find out exactly what is going on using things like the DOM Inspector, JavaScript console and Web Developer extension. I agree that tools like Javascript console, for instance, are pretty handy compared to MSIE, but before you can read error

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-11 Thread Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
I use the Javascript Bible... it's a very well done resource, and has a full-text-searchable PDF of the entire book on CD attached inside the back cover. Their coverage of the DOM, and it's cross-browser quirks, has left me in pretty good stead over the last 5 years. J On Fri, 11 Mar 2005

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-11 Thread Spike
There's also: http://mozref.com/ Which seems to be pretty comprehensive. SPike Claude Schneegans wrote: I can test and find out exactly what is going on using things like the DOM Inspector, JavaScript console and Web Developer extension. I agree that tools like Javascript console,

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-11 Thread Claude Schneegans
There's also: http://mozref.com/ Yeah, more and more unofficial docs are being published, but as this one says: a guide to help unwary Mozilla application developers find their way through the largely undocumented Mozilla /Application Object Model. / So this confirm my point. / / --

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-11 Thread Spike
Claude Schneegans wrote: There's also: http://mozref.com/ Yeah, more and more unofficial docs are being published, but as this one says: a guide to help unwary Mozilla application developers find their way through the largely undocumented Mozilla /Application Object Model. / So

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-11 Thread dave
it will have installed some spyware and sent you a bill to remove it. ;) From: Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 10:39 AM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Anyone used these tools? I would also suggest

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-11 Thread Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
NO way do you drive a lexus! ;) Send pics... I must see a Lexus. I must have a Lexus. Actually I have to say that... oops, sorry Michael... {trundles off to cf-community} :( Man, this whole sensorship thing is Harsh. hehe... Kidding! Sheesh... calm down! J On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 14:53:10 -0500,

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-11 Thread Greg Morphis
Since is this already off post I'm going to rant... dave.. STFU.. nobody cares about your hottie, nobody cares what you drive, and I fully believe you're filling this list full of BS. Personally I could care less about your life and normally I would just stay quiet however it seems that almost

RE: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-11 Thread Connie DeCinko
Agreed, 110%. I wish I had back the portion of my life wasted reading this drivel. -Original Message- From: Greg Morphis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 2:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Anyone used these tools? Since is this already off post I'm going to rant

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-11 Thread dave
but thats just the way it goes. So why don't you go back to pushing your pencils and then go f**k yourself :) From: Greg Morphis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 4:25 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Anyone used

RE: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-11 Thread dave
these tools? Agreed, 110%. I wish I had back the portion of my life wasted reading this drivel. -Original Message- From: Greg Morphis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 2:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Anyone used these tools? Since is this already off post I'm going

RE: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-11 Thread Connie DeCinko
Can we please take a vote on who wants to see Dave banned from this list? How many of us have real work to do? -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 2:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Anyone used these tools? um ok greg, do you think I

RE: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread Micha Schopman
] Sent: donderdag 10 maart 2005 2:07 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Anyone used these tools? I sent them an email and here is there reply btw~ it doesnt work in ns 8 either Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 17:36:20 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) From: Customer Service - CFPowerTOOLS [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread Stephen Moretti (cfmaster)
Claude Schneegans wrote: We will not be supporting firefox until they improve their handling of javascript. I don't know which bug they are refering to, but one thing is sure: if they had a decent documentation about what can be done with their Javascript implementation at Mozilla, more

RE: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread dave
heres there latest reply's Dave, Checked into Netscape 8.  It's in Beta with KNOWN JAVASCRIPT ISSUES, that are transferred to FIREFOX, in that they are using the same engine. From Netscape 8 Beta Page:  5. There are cases where certain JavaScript elements will fail to appear on some

RE: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread dave
and the next one I like how they point out the low ff stats, what do they expect when you can't even get in with it? Subj:  re: Netscape 8 is Beta Date:  Wed, 9 Mar 2005 20:24:28 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) From:  Customer Service - CFPowerTOOLS [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread dave
this is good Dave, we are javascript experts.  Our code is well tested and refined to work on Mozilla and MSIE.  Currently, Netscape 8 and Firefox are working on their javascript problems. so I downloaded mozilla just to see and wouldn't you know it, there is the problem again, so much for

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread Sean Corfield
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 03:30:48 -0500, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like how they point out the low ff stats, what do they expect when you can't even get in with it? If you keep clicking the OK button, you can get in, at least on Mac. The site is horribly non-compliant according to Tidy,

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread Stephen Moretti (cfmaster)
Will The Game wrote: http://www.smartsurfonline.com/cfpowertools/ And PLEASE don't post with, cf-community please. SHEESH! Will Will, I think that gives you your answer. This company are on people's junk email list. They have been known not to complete projects in a timely fashion.

RE: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread Micha Schopman
This is the url ? .. this is serious? For so called experts they might look at the use of identifiers in CSS as well as in Javascript. Then I haven't either mentioned the overwhelming use of the deprecated font tag, or the lack of a doctype, and the usage of height for inline elements. I

RE: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread dave
: RE: Anyone used these tools? This is the url ? .. this is serious? For so called experts they might look at the use of identifiers in CSS as well as in Javascript. Then I haven't either mentioned the overwhelming use of the deprecated font tag, or the lack of a doctype, and the usage of height

RE: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread Calvin Ward
I read all this and I still don't know what the bug is... - Calvin -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 4:11 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Anyone used these tools? oh gawd not the BLINK tag LMFAO! but yeah its serious and the emails were

RE: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread Damien McKenna
I'm sorry, I don't accept that as an excuse from a company with such a poorly designed website. Seems like a cop-out to me. -- Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 #include stdjoke.h From: Customer Service -

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread Claude Schneegans
Here you go Claude. http://www.w3.org/DOM/ The problem is not with what is standard, but mostly with what is supported and is not standard. -- ___ REUSE CODE! Use custom tags; See http://www.contentbox.com/claude/customtags/tagstore.cfm (Please send any

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread Matt Robertson
None of this is out of character. The lord-high-expert bit, the government contracts alluded to in hushed tones. The tag division (not even the attempt to foist a Janet Evans as lead developer, using a cropped/swiped playmate headshot... anyone remember that one?). Its all just talk coming from

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread Claude Schneegans
Not forgetting that THEIR product is something you get for free I don't get their product for free, I loose my time trying to find information so that users who get their product for free can view the pages I develop. If they chose to work for nothing and give away their work, well good for

RE: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread Ian Skinner
: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 2:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Anyone used these tools? That site sucks for us FF users. I repeatedly get an error message saying I have to use a browser version 4.0 or higher. Ray At 04:01 PM 3

RE: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread Ray Champagne
run. Run code run. Please! - Cynthia Dunning -Original Message- From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 2:11 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Anyone used these tools? I didn't stand a chance, I had to go to the task manager

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread Charlie Griefer
run. Run code run. Please! - Cynthia Dunning -Original Message- From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 2:11 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Anyone used these tools? I didn't stand a chance, I had to go to the task

RE: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread Kerry
the tabbed browsing is an extension? i thought it was the default? -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2005 15:51 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Anyone used these tools? i've got the tabbed browser extension for ff, so i just right clicked the tab

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread Charlie Griefer
, Kerry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the tabbed browsing is an extension? i thought it was the default? -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 March 2005 15:51 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Anyone used these tools? i've got the tabbed browser extension

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread Gel .
They seem to have some interesting stuff. The CF Processor which processes forms in the background looked promising. I signed up somewhere I believe and started getting their emails. I know someone who has used the CF Post ITs I think it was, and the pop up window stuff and it works

RE: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread dave
: Anyone used these tools? I read all this and I still don't know what the bug is... - Calvin ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread Patrick Evans
Well, I get spammed by them all the time and have listed them in my 'auto-reject' rules if that means anything. We only send email to people that register on our site, and they DO have the opportunity to UNSUBSCRIBE, which if they do is done automatically by the email software we use. There

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread Patrick Evans
They used to have a user forum accessible to the public. There were a LOT of angry posts on there regarding promised products that never materialized (i.e. buy this and get that free when its released... so BUY NOW). Matt, I got rid of the forum because of the third party company that ran it,

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread Patrick Evans
tried to visit the page with firefox... it just loops a message box saying you need a browser v4.0 or greater... PITA to close that page and not lose my other ones.. On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 17:01:51 -0400, Will The Game [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to Dave Lyons notifying our webmaster we have

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread Adam Haskell
Oh good job dave now look who has showed up ;-P Honestly I have seen these power tools and the other EZtools...most of these things seem like things where code is readily available to do it free...why spend the money..i mean most of this stuff is easy enough to program in an afternoon but hey if

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread Patrick Evans
It is an admitted bug in FF that they are working on (a specific js instruction), but we have resolved this with a work-around. Thanks to Dave. Patrick D. Evans CEO MATRIX-SmartSurf Technologies ~| Find out how CFTicket can

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread Patrick Evans
Will The Game wrote: Will, I think that gives you your answer. This company are on people's junk email list. If you registered at our website, you are on our email list until you UNSUBSCRIBE. Get your facts stright now, Will. They have been known not to complete projects in a timely

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread Patrick Evans
They seem to have some interesting stuff. The CF Processor which processes forms in the background looked promising. I signed up somewhere I believe and started getting their emails. I know someone who has used the CF Post ITs I think it was, and the pop up window stuff and it works

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread Patrick Evans
That's funny. FireFox has far more superior JavaScript support over IE. And of course each browser has their bugs, but this is software. Software always contains bugs. Then it comes to skill to find workarounds for these bugs. If they don't support the browser, they prove themselves

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread Patrick Evans
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 03:30:48 -0500, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like how they point out the low ff stats, what do they expect when you can't even get in with it? The stats spoken of pertain to MANY sites we host and do stats for. Don't get me wrong. I LIKE FF! But the truth is

RE: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread Dave Watts
If you registered at our website, you are on our email list until you UNSUBSCRIBE. I'm pretty certain I did not register at your website, yet I am apparently on your email list. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread Adam Haskell
Seriously Patrick how many more posts are you going to make? Javascript experts? How was it that this was not fixed prior to someone raising a fit...I mean seriously if you are the omnipotent javasciprters how come this was not fixed prior to this version of the website's release... Adam H On

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread Patrick Evans
None of this is out of character. The lord-high-expert bit, the government contracts alluded to in hushed tones. The tag division (not even the attempt to foist a Janet Evans as lead developer, using a cropped/swiped playmate headshot... anyone remember that one?). Hello...Janet WILLIAMS is not

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread Patrick Evans
If you registered at our website, you are on our email list until you UNSUBSCRIBE. I'm pretty certain I did not register at your website, yet I am apparently on your email list. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread Daniel Mackey
I know I never subscribed either and found myself on their list too. Repeatedly tried to remove and eventually it annoyed me so much, they go straight to the junk folder. Dan. Patrick Evans wrote: If you registered at our website, you are on our email list until you UNSUBSCRIBE. I'm

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread Patrick Evans
Oh good job dave now look who has showed up ;-P Honestly I have seen these power tools and the other EZtools...most of these things seem like things where code is readily available to do it free...why spend the money..i mean most of this stuff is easy enough to program in an afternoon but hey if

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread Daniel Mackey
Have you jobs for everyone on this list so? ;-) Patrick Evans wrote: Oh good job dave now look who has showed up ;-P Honestly I have seen these power tools and the other EZtools...most of these things seem like things where code is readily available to do it free...why spend the money..i mean

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread Patrick D. Evans, SmartSurf Tech
Adam, We have 5 companies, and about 16 different projects we're juggling, including a music division, an entertainment magazine etc. It's not easy, but when it was brought to our attention - it was resolved. Patrick D. Evans CEO MATRIX-SmartSurf Technologies

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread Rob
On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 20:29:08 -0400, Patrick Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 03:30:48 -0500, dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like how they point out the low ff stats, what do they expect when you can't even get in with it? The stats spoken of pertain to MANY sites

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread Patrick D. Evans, SmartSurf Tech
Most of the users of Firefox are web developers in one way or another (that is, as of now). I am sure that they will increase in market share if the product stands the test of time. I insisted that our site and products work with FF is for that reason. We can always create work-arounds, FF

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread dave
Tech [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 8:46 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Anyone used these tools? Adam, We have 5 companies, and about 16 different projects we're juggling, including a music division, an entertainment magazine etc. It's not easy, but when

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread Adam Haskell
Patrick we have 10+ divisions, 2500+ stores and 100+ different applications we support on servers ranging from 4.5 - MX7 if something like this, a bug that cuase the client browser to become unresponsive, went into production it would be someone's ass, maybe not fired but certainly it would come

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Once again I'll ask that this thread, which has moved totally into debate, be moved to either CF-Community or CF-OT. It is not a technical thread and this is a technical list. Thank you ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
My god, I'm away from the list for a day and look all the trouble you people get into... Rock on, Dave... and tell me why you have all the fun when I'm out of the office? I looked at the site... not bad, kinda busy, a few JS errors, and they have to use popups or frames for data conduits for

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread Patrick D. Evans, SmartSurf Tech
Dave, A very intelligent post. I agree with your philosophy of developing for MSIE last. MSIE is much more, if not TOO forgiving of bad programming styles. Patrick D. Evans CEO MATRIX-SmartSurf Technologies ~| Logware

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread Tony Weeg
may i never irritate the people on this list :) wow. tw On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 20:50:40 -0600, Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My god, I'm away from the list for a day and look all the trouble you people get into... Rock on, Dave... and tell me why you have all the fun

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread dave
From: Patrick D. Evans, SmartSurf Tech [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 10:50 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Anyone used these tools? Dave, A very intelligent post. I agree with your philosophy of developing for MSIE last. MSIE

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread dave
yep, tony, that smy thoughts too haha jk From: Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 11:03 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Anyone used these tools? may i never irritate the people on this list :) wow. tw

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread Patrick D. Evans, SmartSurf Tech
Yes we're in sin-city :-) Dave you wouldn't get ANY work done and you know it :-) I'd like to kind of close this SmartSurf discussion and give this back to CF-Tech Talk. If anyone wants to discuss SmartSurf you have my email, but I think CF-TALK should get back on topic, don't you think! I

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-10 Thread dave
, March 10, 2005 11:34 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Anyone used these tools? Yes we're in sin-city :-) Dave you wouldn't get ANY work done and you know it :-) I'd like to kind of close this SmartSurf discussion and give this back to CF-Tech Talk. If anyone wants to discuss

Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-09 Thread Will The Game
http://www.smartsurfonline.com/cfpowertools/ And PLEASE don't post with, cf-community please. SHEESH! Will ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-09 Thread Ray Champagne
That site sucks for us FF users. I repeatedly get an error message saying I have to use a browser version 4.0 or higher. Ray At 04:01 PM 3/9/2005, you wrote: http://www.smartsurfonline.com/cfpowertools/ And PLEASE don't post with, cf-community please. SHEESH! Will

RE: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-09 Thread Ian Skinner
To: CF-Talk Subject: Anyone used these tools? http://www.smartsurfonline.com/cfpowertools/ And PLEASE don't post with, cf-community please. SHEESH! Will ~| Logware

RE: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-09 Thread Ian Skinner
-Original Message- From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 2:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Anyone used these tools? That site sucks for us FF users. I repeatedly get an error message saying I have to use a browser version

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-09 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Well, I get spammed by them all the time and have listed them in my 'auto-reject' rules if that means anything. http://www.smartsurfonline.com/cfpowertools/ And PLEASE don't post with, cf-community please. SHEESH! Will

RE: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-09 Thread Calvin Ward
Bah, I'll just skip the site, I'm not going to monkey with my user string! - Calvin -Original Message- From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 5:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Anyone used these tools? {JavaScript Application] ! This page does

RE: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-09 Thread Ray Champagne
Sacramento, CA C code. C code run. Run code run. Please! - Cynthia Dunning -Original Message- From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 2:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Anyone used these tools? That site sucks for us FF users

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-09 Thread Matt Robertson
They used to have a user forum accessible to the public. There were a LOT of angry posts on there regarding promised products that never materialized (i.e. buy this and get that free when its released... so BUY NOW). I actually wrote GridMonger specifically because I was tired of waiting for one

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-09 Thread K0rneliuz Van Strauss XIV
tried to visit the page with firefox... it just loops a message box saying you need a browser v4.0 or greater... PITA to close that page and not lose my other ones.. On Wed, 09 Mar 2005 17:01:51 -0400, Will The Game [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.smartsurfonline.com/cfpowertools/ And

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-09 Thread Dave Lyons
I sent them an email and here is there reply btw~ it doesnt work in ns 8 either Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 17:36:20 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) From: Customer Service - CFPowerTOOLS [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have checked into your Firefox

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-09 Thread Claude Schneegans
We will not be supporting firefox until they improve their handling of javascript. I don't know which bug they are refering to, but one thing is sure: if they had a decent documentation about what can be done with their Javascript implementation at Mozilla, more developers would be

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-09 Thread dave
why don't you donate some of your time and go help them then From: Claude Schneegans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 9:16 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Anyone used these tools? We

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-09 Thread Claude Schneegans
why don't you donate some of your time and go help them then. What a dummy remark :-( Documentation should be done by the ones who know their product, not by the one who wants to learn. Spending hours to try to make scripts compatible withe THEIR product is already helping them. But having to

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-09 Thread dave
PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 10:29 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Anyone used these tools? why don't you donate some of your time and go help them then. What a dummy remark :-( Documentation should be done by the ones who know their product, not by the one who

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-09 Thread Spike
I can't help but ask how much have you donated to these people who you think should be writing documentation. Even if you believe that they are the ones who should be writing it, surely you don't believe that they should do it for free. Not forgetting that THEIR product is something you get

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-09 Thread dave
take it to them as well and try to get what im bitching about fixed. From: Spike [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 10:47 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Anyone used these tools? I can't help but ask how much have you

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-09 Thread Sean Corfield
We have checked into your Firefox issue and discovered it is not OUR issue, but Firefox's poor implementation of javascript (a ff bug). It is not something that we need to do, but Firefox. Hahaha... well, there's a company no one in their right mind would want to deal with! -- Sean A

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-09 Thread Spike
Subject: Re: Anyone used these tools? I can't help but ask how much have you donated to these people who you think should be writing documentation. Even if you believe that they are the ones who should be writing it, surely you don't believe that they should do it for free

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-09 Thread dave
. From: Spike [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 11:02 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Anyone used these tools? Thanks Dave, My reply wasn't to your post, it was to Claude's. I expect that you are indeed the type of person

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-09 Thread dave
damn i need a spell checker lol From: dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 11:20 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Anyone used these tools? I realized that after I sent that Spike, sorry bout that :) I know most

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-09 Thread Spike
dave wrote: I realized that after I sent that Spike, sorry bout that :) I know most ppl on here don't like my attitude but I will ALWAYS, ALWAYS help where I can, as quite a few ppl on here can attest. I too grow tired of the it better be free and it better work flawlessly crap

Re: Anyone used these tools?

2005-03-09 Thread dave
hoped I'd never find it again. From: Spike [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 11:28 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: Anyone used these tools? dave wrote: I realized that after I sent that Spike, sorry bout that :) I