Re: Beta Testers Wanted - TrafficMunkey - A New CF Framework

2010-10-09 Thread Scott Brady
Really off-topic now, but the word is comingle or commingle without hyphens, so that's probably why the lawyer didn't put a hyphen in it. :) http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/comingle http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/comingle?show=0t=1286641358 Scott (pedant) On Tue, Oct 5, 2010

Re: Beta Testers Wanted - TrafficMunkey - A New CF Framework

2010-10-05 Thread Peter Boughton
I went to go take a look at it, and got to the download page... Apparently I have to sign an SLA and NDA to download it? Screw that. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: Beta Testers Wanted - TrafficMunkey - A New CF Framework

2010-10-05 Thread James Holmes
Ah, free as in beer but not free as in speech. Yeah, I'll stick to FOSS or pay for a commercial license, thanks. -- WSS4CF - WS-Security framework for CF http://wss4cf.riaforge.org/ On 5 October 2010 18:04, Peter Boughton bought...@gmail.com wrote: I went to go take a look at it, and got

Re: Beta Testers Wanted - TrafficMunkey - A New CF Framework

2010-10-05 Thread Pete Oliver-Krueger
Thanks for the feedback. If you don't mind saying more, I'd like to followup with you off-list. Everything has a license these days, even FOSS. Most just drop it in the download folder with ...by using this software you agree to the terms of this license... that you may or may not see. I

Re: Beta Testers Wanted - TrafficMunkey - A New CF Framework

2010-10-05 Thread Scott Stroz
Can software still be 'open source' if you need to agree to a non-disclosure agreement before downloading it? Seems like a contradiction there. On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Pete Oliver-Krueger p...@millionmunkeys.net wrote: Good day, CFers, I'm looking for beta testers for a new

Re: Beta Testers Wanted - TrafficMunkey - A New CF Framework

2010-10-05 Thread Eric Cobb
You can freely use and redistribute the code, just don't tell anyone where you got it. ;) Thanks, Eric Cobb ECAR Technologies, LLC http://www.ecartech.com http://www.cfgears.com Scott Stroz wrote: Can software still be 'open source' if you need to agree to a non-disclosure agreement

Re: Beta Testers Wanted - TrafficMunkey - A New CF Framework

2010-10-05 Thread Pete Oliver-Krueger
On Oct 5, 2010, at 9:40 AM, James Holmes wrote: Ah, free as in beer but not free as in speech. Yeah, I'll stick to FOSS or pay for a commercial license, thanks. Actually - to clarify - my company's philosophy is that we split out a percentage of the profits to pay contributors to the free

Re: Beta Testers Wanted - TrafficMunkey - A New CF Framework

2010-10-05 Thread Scott Stroz
You know what, my bad. You never said it was 'open source' merely that it was 'free'. Very big differences there. Carry on. On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Scott Stroz boyz...@gmail.com wrote: Can software still be 'open source' if you need to agree to a non-disclosure agreement before

Re: Beta Testers Wanted - TrafficMunkey - A New CF Framework

2010-10-05 Thread Phillip Vector
Are you paying for beta testing? If so, then true. It's acceptable to have an NDA. But your post came off as someone who wants to have the community help beta test for free. In that case, IMHO, it should be open source and therefore, open to people to talk about. Then again, that's just my

Re: Beta Testers Wanted - TrafficMunkey - A New CF Framework

2010-10-05 Thread Dave Watts
Are you paying for beta testing? If so, then true. It's acceptable to have an NDA. But your post came off as someone who wants to have the community help beta test for free. In that case, IMHO, it should be open source and therefore, open to people to talk about. Then again, that's just my

Re: Beta Testers Wanted - TrafficMunkey - A New CF Framework

2010-10-05 Thread Adrocknaphobia
Pete, Kudos for sharing your framework with the wider community, but I think your SLA and NDA are going to negatively impact it's adoption and growth. I've unfortunately become quite apt at reading agreements like these and a few items have jumped out at me. 2.1 Licensor hereby grants to

Re: Beta Testers Wanted - TrafficMunkey - A New CF Framework

2010-10-05 Thread Maureen
True. I've signed NDAs for a lot of private betas. On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:11 AM, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote: Adobe would appear to disagree with you. They require an NDA for private betas, and they don't pay me anything to beta-test their software. This includes software that

Beta Testers Wanted - TrafficMunkey - A New CF Framework

2010-10-04 Thread Pete Oliver-Krueger
Good day, CFers, I'm looking for beta testers for a new framework. We've been using it with MillionMunkeys sites for the past year, but now we want to make it available to the entire CF community as a free download, and see if it helps others as much as it helps us, plus how the community