Get the Gang of Four book on patterns for OO development, peek under the covers of FB, Mach II, etc. and see how things work.
Yup, good advice!
While you guys are giving advice might I ask if anyone can recommend
books/websites which would take a case study approach behind the
creation of an
In addition to others mentioned I have found this site to be very
useful:
http://www.benorama.com/coldfusion/index.htm
Personally I don't like Fusebox and have been trying out other MVC
implementations before deciding on one to go forward with.
Thanks,
Sam
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In addition to others mentioned I have found this site to be very
useful:
http://www.benorama.com/coldfusion/index.htm
Hey Sam, I like the Benorama approach too.Just done some small fry
stuff on it though.
Mach-ii kinda scares me tho :-/I found it a little hard to get into
and kinda gave up as got limited RD time at the moment.
Should I persist with it?
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What specifically don't you like about fusebox?
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Oh, I love watching an occasional flame-war -- great entertainment
Mach-ii kinda scares me tho :-/I found it a little hard to get into
and kinda gave up as got limited RD time at the moment.
Should I persist with it?
Depends. If you want to learn OO and can find the time to do that then
you'll be able to take advantage of Mach II. If you're not up to speed
I'll take the bait since I use Fusebox but I am not, as they say in the world of politics, a true believer.
Fusebox, IMHO, is a little slow if you use it without modification to the core files. There are tradeoffs with any approach, and one of the tradeoffs of Fusebox is sacrificing some speed
not
for everyone.It's also got a steeper learning curve.
Cheers,
barneyb
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I'll take the bait since I use Fusebox but I am not, as they
say
I think you'd find a lot of the issues have been resolved with FB4.The
speed issue is gone, as are layouts (though you can still use them, if you
want).I still use FB3 every day (using a slightly modified core file), and
it's great.FB4 is way better.I still haven't really found a reason to
modify
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I'll take the bait since I use Fusebox but I am not, as they say in the
world of politics, a true believer.
Fusebox, IMHO, is a little slow if you use it without modification to the
core files. There are tradeoffs with any
I am a brave man!
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I'll take the bait since I use Fusebox but I am not, as they say in the world of politics, a true believer.
That's OK, I've said my fair share of bad things about Fusebox in the past ;)
Fusebox, IMHO, is a little slow if you use it without modification to the core files.
If you think FB3 is
Hi... Please, do you have any tips, tutorials or examples about how to
use MVC with CF? JSP haves Struts. And CF? How to separate Code from
Presentation? This all for (my) code reuse...
Thanx
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Hi... Please, do you have any tips, tutorials or examples about how to
use MVC with CF? JSP haves Struts. And CF? How to separate Code from
Presentation? This all for (my
Hi... Please, do you have any tips, tutorials or examples
about how to
use MVC with CF? JSP haves Struts. And CF? How to separate
Code from
Presentation? This all for (my) code reuse...
Thanx
In addition to Fusebox, which Sandy Clark recommends, there are also
several other frameworks.
Thanx Sandy and S. Isaac Dealey. OnTap Framework looks like nice...
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 09:11:01 -0400, S. Isaac Dealey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi... Please, do you have any tips, tutorials or examples
about how to
use MVC with CF? JSP haves Struts. And CF? How to separate
Code from
None of them will force you to use an MVC approach, but all of them
offer structure for reusing your code.
Mach II comes closest to forcing you to use MVC since it is a direct
implementation of the MVC pattern. You write your business logic as
CFCs (the model). You write your presentation as
Thanks Sean -- that's a great, concise comparison! :)
None of them will force you to use an MVC approach, but
all of them
offer structure for reusing your code.
Mach II comes closest to forcing you to use MVC since it
is a direct
implementation of the MVC pattern. You write your business
Thanx Sandy and S. Isaac Dealey. OnTap Framework looks
like nice...
I got one! heh :)
Thanks Marco, I appreciate that. There is also an onTap framework
mailing list on the houseoffusion site and of course, you can always
email me if you have any questions. :)
s. isaac dealey954.927.5117
new
I'll be there... S.Isaac... I'll be there
In addition Blackstone will give us any tool to work with OO in
native mode like onTap, Struts, FB and so on?
Thanks once more again...
On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 14:21:18 -0400, S. Isaac Dealey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanx Sandy and S. Isaac
I'll be there... S.Isaac... I'll be there
In addition Blackstone will give us any tool to work
with OO in
native mode like onTap, Struts, FB and so on?
Thanks once more again...
Offhand I'm not sure what (if any) additional or modified CFC or OO
features will be included in the
In addition Blackstone will give us any tool to work with OO in
native mode like onTap, Struts, FB and so on?
Like what?
CFMX already has CFCs that OO frameworks like Mach II to exist. As
Isaac points out, Fusebox and onTap are not OO frameworks (although
onTap provides some enhanced stuff
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